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How can a player be "tired" after 2 days rest?

2003
02-11-2012, 09:55 AM
How can a player be tired after a 5 setter when they have 2 days to recover, to do ice baths, god knows what else etc?

I mean, after even hours of running around, you catch your breath after a few mintues.

I mean I can understand how the body is stiff, you certainly get cramps and what not.

But "tired"? I dont think so.

Okay, its hard to back up after hard work outs. Its hard. But in tennis you get breaks.

Cyclists, Runners, they train every day. 2 days rest is heaps to them. I mean Marathon runners run the equivilent of 4 marathons in training a week, the top ones. They run 160KM a week.

Djokovic ran about 11KM over his semi and final at AO.

Okay, a lot of thats sprinting. But still. Thats not the toughest of workouts over 6 hours with rests.

How could you be tired per say?

GSMnadal
02-11-2012, 10:02 AM
you really have no clue, do you :lol:

sprinting, stopping and sprinting again, changing directions, it's incredibly tough...how can you not be tired should be the question.

BodyServe
02-11-2012, 10:05 AM
You get tired after more than 5 hours, i mean you get tired naturally, it would be the same with 10 days rest.

leng jai
02-11-2012, 10:06 AM
Thread title is one of the greatest mysteries in life.

Adri89
02-11-2012, 10:10 AM
Well, I think you made a wrong comparaison with cycling and running.
I will just answer on one thing : in tennis, you can be tired physically of course, but also mentally. You need to be sooo focus at the ATP level, on each point, you have to come with a plan, you have to be ready to adapt it, handle the pressure in the decisive moment, accept the frustration... tennis is such an exhausted sport in the mental department. A 5 sets' match takes you a lot of energy in the mental department because tennis in more emotional than others sports.

2003
02-11-2012, 10:31 AM
Well, I think you made a wrong comparaison with cycling and running.
I will just answer on one thing : in tennis, you can be tired physically of course, but also mentally. You need to be sooo focus at the ATP level, on each point, you have to come with a plan, you have to be ready to adapt it, handle the pressure in the decisive moment, accept the frustration... tennis is such an exhausted sport in the mental department. A 5 sets' match takes you a lot of energy in the mental department because tennis in more emotional than others sports.

You think running 42.2km or cycling for hours and hours and hours and hours and hours isnt mentally tiring?

Coolio_Jack
02-11-2012, 10:47 AM
I suggest you to get really tired for once, instead of spending days thinking what poll should i make for today.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
02-11-2012, 11:09 AM
2003

once again showing why he deserves the troll of the year title

Alex999
02-11-2012, 11:11 AM
tennis is much more complicated than running and cycling. it requires mental and psychical energy. 2 days rest should be enough, but at the highest level small things decide who's gonna win a match. I also think that it's silly to compare other sports with tennis.

2003
02-11-2012, 11:12 AM
You get tired after more than 5 hours, i mean you get tired naturally, it would be the same with 10 days rest.

Thats not what im talking about.

NikosureE was exhausted even after a few games against Murray at AO after the 5 setter with Tsonga.

Deathless Mortal
02-11-2012, 11:15 AM
NikosureE lol

2003
02-11-2012, 11:15 AM
What I mean is, you might be tight, not move as well, be sore.

But you wont get out of breath easier due to a hard workout you did 2 days ago. Your cardio system has already recovered.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
02-11-2012, 11:17 AM
accumilated fatigue

push your body hard enough and damage stays for more than "2days rest"

probably irreversible damage to your joints, your muscles etc

did you know that 1000 people die of heart attacks ever year from running marathons- and not just unhealthy people

even the healthiest of people can suffer heart attacks- if you train more than 4 hours a day you push your body beyond what its naturally capable of

in other words over training is worse than no training at all

2003
02-11-2012, 11:17 AM
NikosureE lol

I can never remember his spelling so just go with the Phonetic :)

But you know what I mean right? I mean olympic athletes have to run heats, semis, finals, with very little rest.

They dont really get "tired".

2003
02-11-2012, 11:19 AM
And Tennis hero, globe wide, I could find 1000 people that die of heart attacks every year doing just about anything. Doesnt prove squat.

Having a dicky heart is what causes a heart attack.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
02-11-2012, 11:23 AM
http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/heart-attack-risks-are-greater-for-athletes-who-compete-in-endurance-sports-263

Endurance athletes who exercise for three hours or more have an increased chance of dying from a cardiac arrest

Pirata.
02-11-2012, 06:35 PM
Needs a poll, imo

River
02-11-2012, 06:52 PM
If there was ever a time to tell you to "Use Google..."

Li Ching Yuen
02-11-2012, 07:45 PM
Tired thread.

MariaV
02-11-2012, 07:48 PM
2003

once again showing why he deserves the troll of the year title

+1
I could not agree with you more!

ossie
02-11-2012, 08:07 PM
you really have no clue, do you :lol:

sprinting, stopping and sprinting again, changing directions, it's incredibly tough...how can you not be tired should be the question.first post nailed it... as is often the case in a thread started by 2003

2003
02-11-2012, 08:28 PM
http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/heart-attack-risks-are-greater-for-athletes-who-compete-in-endurance-sports-263

Endurance athletes who exercise for three hours or more have an increased chance of dying from a cardiac arrest

That is an absolute load of crap!

Doing exercise is the best prevention of heart disease.

I can show you a study for anything.

2003
02-11-2012, 08:31 PM
you really have no clue, do you :lol:

sprinting, stopping and sprinting again, changing directions, it's incredibly tough...how can you not be tired should be the question.

Sure if you do it in a 35-40 minute HIIT session.

Over 5-6 hours, its tough no doubt, but theres no excuse for not being resonably fresh after 2 days.

leng jai
02-11-2012, 08:48 PM
Most players aren't tired after one match...its usually at the end of the tournament after the accumulation of several taxing matches.

ssin
02-11-2012, 11:28 PM
It would be interesting, for the purpose of research, to get a spade and try digging a deep hole like a frantic rabbit, for just 2 hours without a break. That followed by a report on the experience of the next 2-3 days. Maybe the OP can pioneer the research, others would follow.

2003
02-11-2012, 11:31 PM
Most players aren't tired after one match...its usually at the end of the tournament after the accumulation of several taxing matches.

Djokovic USO 2010

Tired after only one recent long match

stewietennis
02-12-2012, 09:33 PM
Cyclists, Runners, they train every day. 2 days rest is heaps to them. I mean Marathon runners run the equivilent of 4 marathons in training a week, the top ones. They run 160KM a week.

Tennis players don't just run. If that's the only thing you see that makes tennis players tired, you haven't played tennis. Djokovic ran "only" 11km in the AO Final, and he ran about 10km in the semi two days earlier. I can run 11km in less than couple of hours and recover by the afternoon. The difference is with tennis players is – that's 11km of stopping, starting, changing direction, sudden bursts all the while aiming, anticipating, reacting, planning, jumping and swinging a racket with almost as much power as a boxer. It's difficult enough to run 11km at a leisurely marathon pace but add all those other things to it and you'll be exhausted by the halfway point.

The other main issue is the type of sport you're comparing tennis to. Marathon running is more akin to golf. Tennis is more like boxing, in that, it's gladiatorial, you're directly affected by what your opponent does. An opponent can force you to run, or run backwards, make you play out of your comfort zone or simply overpower you for a win. In marathon running, if an opponent runs faster, you can run faster as well or maintain your speed and catch up later, you're still battling, and in essence dependent on, the terrain – same as golf where if an opponent shoots a better round, you're chasing after his total but it's still you vs the course.