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Will John Isner make Top 10 in 2012?

Johnny Groove
02-10-2012, 08:19 PM
Currently ranked #17, he has not much to defend, and can make up lots of points in clay season, especially if he plays Monte Carlo.

I think he can make Top 10 in 2012.

theKSHE
02-10-2012, 08:21 PM
Absolutely. I didn't like him at all some months ago but he just showed that he is capable of doing awesome things.

yesh222
02-10-2012, 08:26 PM
Easily, if he plays and tries at the clay events. He'll even be seeded for the Masters so he can avoid terrible draws.

BauerAlmeida
02-10-2012, 08:41 PM
Yes, he will.

Jovard
02-10-2012, 08:41 PM
100% sure he will

Sonja1989
02-10-2012, 08:44 PM
Seeing his ranking and points, he has decent chance after the Wimbledon.

Fumus
02-10-2012, 08:45 PM
Top 10 doesn't mean what it used to. You have 4 fools gobbling up all the points.

That being said, yes he will make the top 10 this year.

Horatio Caine
02-10-2012, 09:54 PM
Yeah, it is a very difficult question to answer. :lol:

He definitely CAN, but it is debatable whether he WILL.

Three key things in his favour for the next 7 months:
- one match win to defend over RG and Wimbledon. He can easily improve on that.
- poor Masters results over spring/summer 2011. He should be aiming for R16 in IW and Miami, so a small improvement is possible there. He won just two matches over Rome, Madrid, Canada and Cincy - he should be targeting an average of at least one in each draw.
- plenty of points to earn in optionals. He played a non-existent schedule in 2011, counting points in just ONE 500 event. He should be aiming to play FOUR 500 events this year, and would surely score some big, easy points in home draws. He'd then be eligible to count maybe THREE 250 events, and easy points will be available in a few of those draws.

Basically, he needs to play a full schedule, and make a small improvement to his results in Masters events. It is very possible.

I'll stick my neck out and vote a reluctant YES.

LawrenceOfTennis
02-10-2012, 09:57 PM
Typical overreaction. Calm down MTF. Isner did a great job today but he is not consistent enough to go that far. Hope I'll be proven wrong though.

MIMIC
02-10-2012, 10:01 PM
I hope he does. It's about time that he resurfaces from the Wimbledon hangover.

Roddickominator
02-10-2012, 10:02 PM
If guys like Tommy Robredo, Gilles Simon, and Marcos Baghdatis can make it into the Top 10, then surely John Isner can as well.

I don't think he has a good shot to go deep at any Slams, because the Best-of-5 format is a disadvantage for John due to his massive size. He just gets worn down before the 2nd week too often. To his credit, he continues to fight it out and has had some decent results, but I don't think he will be able to pick up huge points in Slams overall.

But he can play better in Masters events, and really can beat anyone in a best-of-3 match on a given day. I'd like to see him pull it together and go deep in a few of those.

romismak
02-10-2012, 10:03 PM
No he won´t do this this year, even if he will it doesn´t mean so much with guys like Almagro, Tipsarevic, Fish, Melzer-Verdasco-Simon not so long ago, he definitely can do it, but don´t think he will, we have big 4, Berdych, Tsonga, Ferrer very consistent, so 7 spots are occupied for sure, than we have Delpo who should be there if healthy, than Soderling depends how soon he will be back, but he is top 10 player easily.. and than we have one spot left for guys like Monfils, current top 10 players, and other top 20 players like Dolgopolov, Gasquet and others... so really it istn´t like Isner will make top 10 immediately... i think he will be in top 10 in his career but not this year

LawrenceOfTennis
02-10-2012, 10:04 PM
If guys like Tommy Robredo, Gilles Simon, and Marcos Baghdatis can make it into the Top 10, then surely John Isner can as well.

I don't think he has a good shot to go deep at any Slams, because the Best-of-5 format is a disadvantage for John due to his massive size. He just gets worn down before the 2nd week too often. To his credit, he continues to fight it out and has had some decent results, but I don't think he will be able to pick up huge points in Slams overall.

But he can play better in Masters events, and really can beat anyone in a best-of-3 match on a given day. I'd like to see him pull it together and go deep in a few of those.

This.

Sonja1989
02-10-2012, 10:11 PM
If guys like Tommy Robredo, Gilles Simon, and Marcos Baghdatis can make it into the Top 10, then surely John Isner can as well.

I don't think he has a good shot to go deep at any Slams, because the Best-of-5 format is a disadvantage for John due to his massive size. He just gets worn down before the 2nd week too often. To his credit, he continues to fight it out and has had some decent results, but I don't think he will be able to pick up huge points in Slams overall.

But he can play better in Masters events, and really can beat anyone in a best-of-3 match on a given day. I'd like to see him pull it together and go deep in a few of those.

:lol:

Anyway totally true. But 4th rounds are good enough too, he needs about 800-900 points for the top 10. With Masters and tournaments like Memphis he has real chance I think.
IW/Miami can be great for him..

piksi
02-10-2012, 10:36 PM
Why? Because he abused the old man?

He would have to be way more consistent against players who actually have a backhand and a return.

GSMnadal
02-10-2012, 10:38 PM
Just went for maybe... tired of being wrong all the time with these polls :ras:

Jimnik
02-10-2012, 11:55 PM
As long as he stays fit and healthy.

iriraz
02-11-2012, 08:19 AM
His problem is that he is rarely winning easy matches.And in the slams for instance he keeps getting into those tough 5 setters in the early rounds and sometimes he wins them but other times he can lose.And if he wins a tough 5 setter he will suffer in the next match.
And in the rest of the ATP tourneys it`s the same.He could trouble or even beat a top player but he could also lose vs nr.70 in the world.
Sure he could finish in top 10,but considering that Almagro or Tipsarevic were there it`s not that tough when the gaps are so small up there.

Asadinator
02-11-2012, 08:32 AM
Typical overreaction. Calm down MTF. Isner did a great job today but he is not consistent enough to go that far. Hope I'll be proven wrong though.

This. I love him so I hope so, but I don't think so.

ossie
02-11-2012, 10:46 AM
typical mtf overreacting again :rolleyes:

if his match against fed was in a slam the serve bot would be lucky to force a tiebreak

Johnny Groove
02-11-2012, 11:46 AM
typical mtf overreacting again :rolleyes:

if his match against fed was in a slam the serve bot would be lucky to force a tiebreak

You mean like at 07 USO when Isner won a TB set vs. Peakerer?

Yeah.

BroTree123
02-11-2012, 11:51 AM
If he continues to build on this win, and reels in some good results for the upcoming clay season; why the hell not?

EddieNero
02-11-2012, 12:11 PM
You mean like at 07 USO when Isner won a TB set vs. Peakerer?

Yeah.

And then got spanked in the next 3 sets while Federer was way off his form at USO 2007.
Finally, this win over Olderer/Idontgiveafuckerer means absolutely nothing in wider context of Slams.

mark73
02-11-2012, 12:30 PM
Yeah, it is a very difficult question to answer. :lol:

He definitely CAN, but it is debatable whether he WILL.

Three key things in his favour for the next 7 months:
- one match win to defend over RG and Wimbledon. He can easily improve on that.
- poor Masters results over spring/summer 2011. He should be aiming for R16 in IW and Miami, so a small improvement is possible there. He won just two matches over Rome, Madrid, Canada and Cincy - he should be targeting an average of at least one in each draw.
- plenty of points to earn in optionals. He played a non-existent schedule in 2011, counting points in just ONE 500 event. He should be aiming to play FOUR 500 events this year, and would surely score some big, easy points in home draws. He'd then be eligible to count maybe THREE 250 events, and easy points will be available in a few of those draws.

Basically, he needs to play a full schedule, and make a small improvement to his results in Masters events. It is very possible.

I'll stick my neck out and vote a reluctant YES.

Ah MTF's favourite intellectual distinction. Can/Will. :rolleyes:
Can is being used in a hypothetical way whereas will is not.

I can win wimbledon if I magically develop into a superstar talent/athlete.
I won't because it physically impossible for this to happen.

So virtually everyone can but won't in all sorts of scenarios.

You are an excellent poster, I just laugh when people use this distinction on MTF (and usually they don't specify the hypothetical circumstances of "can").

mooncreek
02-12-2012, 02:10 PM
It's not an overreaction based on the Federer match. It's the fact Isner did so poorly at this point last year. A run at Miami or Indian Wells is really all he needs. Add on points here and there from 500 events, not having to deal with Rafa or Mahut first round in a major again, and it's not a stretch to say he can be in the Top 10. I don't think he'd stay in the Top 10 once he has to defend all those points in the summer.

Johnny Groove
02-12-2012, 04:01 PM
The guy took Djokovic to 5 sets on clay in Davis Cup 2 years ago, took Rafa to 5 sets at Roland Garros last year, and just beat Federer.

Clearly Isner is a threat to the RG crown and the top 10 in general. Now he has to work on finishing matches quickly. No need to go 3 sets vs. the likes of Bobby Reynolds, Vasek Pospisil, and Julien Benneteau.

Not to mention last clay season, he lost to Ricardo Mello, Sergiy Stakhovsky, and twice to Chela :facepalm:

Also losing to Almagro on grass at Wimbledon :facepalm:

Isner just needs some more consistency.

BroTree123
02-12-2012, 04:03 PM
The guy took Djokovic to 5 sets on clay in Davis Cup 2 years ago, took Rafa to 5 sets at Roland Garros last year, and just beat Federer.

Clearly Isner is a threat to the RG crown and the top 10 in general. Now he has to work on finishing matches quickly. No need to go 3 sets vs. the likes of Bobby Reynolds, Vasek Pospisil, and Julien Benneteau.

Not to mention last clay season, he lost to Ricardo Mello, Sergiy Stakhovsky, and twice to Chela :facepalm:

Also losing to Almagro on grass at Wimbledon :facepalm:

Isner just needs some more consistency.

That was the most embarrassing loss ever :o

romismak
02-13-2012, 03:51 PM
14th already, it will be interresting, he had pretty bad first half of 2011 so he isn´t defending much, but than he will be defending a lot in 2nd half of 2012, so he should make top 10 in next few months, i still think he won´t make it this year, can make it to 11th-12th maybe but really it will be interresting to follow Isner rankings next months.

supertec
02-13-2012, 06:54 PM
Yes, he has a very little ammount of points to defend until Wimbledon.

luie
02-13-2012, 06:54 PM
It is not a big achievement to make the top ten
In today's era.
Apart from djokdal their isn't much resistence.
We have old man fed on his retirement stretch,
Murray who is yet to prove himself on the big stage
And a bunch of fillin players .
The names have changed but since 2006 tennis
Has been primarily A 2 horse race.

cmoss
03-18-2012, 03:59 AM
Well,he made it...:scratch:

lucyfur
03-18-2012, 04:20 AM
Time to close this poll.:)