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DC Round 1: Isner defeats Federer 4-6 6-3 7-6 6-2 (USA leads 2-0)

Sheva
02-10-2012, 07:53 PM
Didn't see the match, but what a result for John!

Certinfy
02-10-2012, 07:54 PM
:haha: :worship: Fucking legend!

neme6
02-10-2012, 07:54 PM
just saw the last game, wtf happened there?

LawrenceOfTennis
02-10-2012, 07:54 PM
Great result.
Federer :lol: :wavey:

kingroger
02-10-2012, 07:54 PM
OH MY GOOOOOOD FED! ARE U SERIOUS :mad: :sad:

Antoshka
02-10-2012, 07:54 PM
:eek:

MIMIC
02-10-2012, 07:54 PM
:worship:

timafi
02-10-2012, 07:54 PM
Myla;Charlene and Alexia would have fucking played better today.So fucking disgusted with both Roger and Stan.

get yourself a fucking real coach Roger;enough of Severin and Paul and as for Stan.NIFD

Lopez
02-10-2012, 07:54 PM
My last post in the livescore thread:

Isner serving from a tree almost during all the match.

Incredible, very tough to break someone serving like that, especially when the second serve bounces 3m high :worship:

And what returning to take the match :yeah:.

Roger :sad:. Looked sluggish out there.

SheepleBuster
02-10-2012, 07:54 PM
I saw the match. Fed was shit. Isner was great. I really think Nadal broke Fed's spirit. I think this may be the last year.

tangerine_dream
02-10-2012, 07:54 PM
:eek: Johnny :worship:

http://i39.tinypic.com/2d7br6a.gif

iramlatif
02-10-2012, 07:55 PM
omg!! wasn't expecting this at all, but happy for john! what a confidence boost for USA! :)

Smoke944
02-10-2012, 07:55 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH. :lol:
My Friday had been very shitty, but Johnny just turned it around! :worship: :worship:

mooncreek
02-10-2012, 07:55 PM
The score confuses me. Cannot wait to see it later on replay.

Kworb
02-10-2012, 07:55 PM
Federer :lol: a mess.

Hope he'll be motivated for the real tournaments.

theKSHE
02-10-2012, 07:55 PM
Unbelievable from Isner, was superb out there today. His best performance ever, he was hitting aces, huge 2nd kick serves, winners off the return, huge forehands, great volleys. Everything, top5 performance for sure. Huge and rightfully deserved win which creates an huge advantage to USA.

As for Fed, it wasn't good, he couldn't handle Isner power and deserved to lose. Hopefully he gets it done in Rotterdam.

Pirata.
02-10-2012, 07:56 PM
Myla, Charlene and Alexia would have fucking played better today. So fucking disgusted with both Roger and Stan.

:lol:

v-money
02-10-2012, 07:56 PM
Only watched like half of that last set and Isner looked like clay GOAT out there. Just amazing. Serves were bouncing higher then Federer's head, return winners from both sides.

I like Federer infinitely more than Isner, but I kind of want USA to win, simply because I live in USA. Looking good so far.

nole_no1
02-10-2012, 07:56 PM
MY FUCKING GOD :eek:

Isner played out of this world in the 4th set

alter ego
02-10-2012, 07:56 PM
Can;t wait to hear trollander telling me Fed is playing better than ever.

bokehlicious
02-10-2012, 07:56 PM
Hottest player I've ever witnessed on a tennis court :eek: kudos John :yeah:

Thunderfish8
02-10-2012, 07:56 PM
Just watched the last two sets.

This was in no way Federer's fault. He played extremely well and may have just gotten down on himself at the very end.
Isner just barely outplayed him. IT WAS AWESOME!
:woohoo:
:woohoo:
:woohoo:
:woohoo:
:woohoo:
:woohoo:

Belludal
02-10-2012, 07:56 PM
Federer :sad:

piksi
02-10-2012, 07:56 PM
speed up the courts :lol:,

no, wait - slow them down :confused:

a buy this clown a backehand

Isner just took the trash out

HeretiC
02-10-2012, 07:56 PM
Well, at least Wawrinka played 5 sets. :superlol:

Deathless Mortal
02-10-2012, 07:56 PM
Wow, congrats John :yeah:
Didn't see this coming, and it's funny after all the talk about how Roger won't win DC because he has a partner who loses to Americans on clay :lol:
I guess there's no way back from here for the Swiss team now.

AllezUSA
02-10-2012, 07:57 PM
The kick serve of Isner's is absolutely lethal.

ALLEZ USA!!!

Smoke944
02-10-2012, 07:57 PM
As for the match, John generally hit Fed off the court. And really like we have seen a few times, clay can augment his game quite well.

SapELee
02-10-2012, 07:57 PM
Well done to John and Mardy. John played really well, his forehand was on fire. Good luck with the doubles.

henke007
02-10-2012, 07:57 PM
Clay Fail. Fed would have won on HC, he needs more matches to get used to Clay. John is awesome on serve anyways and this claycourt indoor was pretty fast. John did an amazing match and couldn't play and serve more clutch. He made the shoots he went for, last game anyone :)

Fed couldn't do much like when John saved 0-40 but was a bit shaky and served poor most of the time like in the breaker.

MatchFederer
02-10-2012, 07:57 PM
The court seemed to play quick but very high bouncing. Isner did very well and at the same time the balls really sat up in an ideal strike zone for him. Federer was constantly having to reach and stretch and always seemed against it, especially when returning serves -- the ball was bouncing stupendously high. Isner played lights out in patches on his fh side and finished the match with what, 3 straight return winners?

Played.

theKSHE
02-10-2012, 07:57 PM
Btw, this is how you outplay someone, Lawrence. Just in case you still can't understand the difference.

Johnbert
02-10-2012, 07:57 PM
hell of a match from isner :eek:

served goat-style and forehand on fire. lol, the 2nd serve bounced 5m high :D

brilliant return game to win the match :eek:

roger :sad:

but respect to john :worship:

Say Hey Kid
02-10-2012, 07:57 PM
Very nice performance from Big John. Amazing serving from the big man, the best serve ever on clay.

NadalesDios
02-10-2012, 07:58 PM
Swiss people must be happy with Federer :lol:

Sunset of Age
02-10-2012, 07:58 PM
Fantastic performance by Isner, was the (far) better player ever since the moment Fed was so kind to hand him over the break in the 2nd set (yes, that was handed over, nothing less). Kept playing better-and-better, and during the final games, Fed had nothing to hit him with anymore, not even close. That final game was telling: three sizzling return winners to settle the deal. Nothing Fed could have done against those, and to me it looked like he'd already given up the match at that point. Everything worked for Isner today, a great victory and fully deserved. Kudos to the US team! :hatoff:

As for a remark, there's by now a disturbing pattern emerging from Fed's best-of-five performances: most usually wins the first set (or even two), but doesn't seem to be able to keep up his level of playing for a longer period anymore.
Looks like a glaring sign of genuine decline to me, and if this pattern doesn't convince folks of this fact, nothing will, I suppose.

Josh V
02-10-2012, 07:58 PM
John played amazing! Cograts!

MuzzahLovah
02-10-2012, 07:58 PM
:worship: God bless America, my home sweet home. :worship:

Fed :spit:

Alex999
02-10-2012, 07:59 PM
kudos to Inser but I really don't think that Fed takes DC too seriously. Do you think that Isner could beat Rog in any GS? doubt it.

LleytonMonfils
02-10-2012, 07:59 PM
http://gifsoup.com/download.php?id=3398870&d=animatedgifs3&n=jeremy-lin-head-bob-tongue-wag&s=o

Lopez
02-10-2012, 07:59 PM
I don't think the tie is over to be honest, if the Swiss manage to grab the doubles, Federer should beat Fish and Wawrinka might take Isner if he has a bad serving day... Wawa is more comfortable with high bouncing balls anyway. But that's a big if!

bokehlicious
02-10-2012, 07:59 PM
Swiss people must be happy with Federer :lol:

Unlike some other nations, hum, we are no nationalist nutheads :hug:

Or Levy
02-10-2012, 07:59 PM
Isner played fantastic, Roger's first serve percentage were low, and the high kicking surface was perfect for Isner. He made very very few unforced errors.

Josh V
02-10-2012, 08:00 PM
As for the match, John generally hit Fed off the court. And really like we have seen a few times, clay can augment his game quite well.

Exactly. John can play really well on clay.

MIMIC
02-10-2012, 08:00 PM
New clay GOAT. Took Nadal to five sets at RG and now this :rocker:

Don't forget Isner's 5-setter against Novak.

madmax
02-10-2012, 08:01 PM
I doubt Fed even cares anymore...he has that resigned look on his face all the time nowadays:sad: I'm afraid the end is nearing for the greatest talent of all time...

lucyfur
02-10-2012, 08:01 PM
Congrats John!

Foxy
02-10-2012, 08:02 PM
Relax, guys. Federer still played great. I don't buy the decline crap as well. Look, if we had players like Djokovic, Isner, Murray back in 03 - 05 they would still beat him every now and then. The competition is toughening up, I guess.

Sonja1989
02-10-2012, 08:02 PM
Wow John, fantastic match, congrats!! :worship: :hug: I'm very happy for this guy.

Pirata.
02-10-2012, 08:02 PM
I bet all my VCash that people still call Isner an all-serve mug even after this win :lol:

SheepleBuster
02-10-2012, 08:03 PM
Now Isner needs to follow this win and take out Nadal for reals at the French this time. No 5 setters and all. Just eliminate him in the first round.

Li Ching Yuen
02-10-2012, 08:03 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH. :lol:
My Friday had been very shitty, but Johnny just turned it around! :worship: :worship:

No...your life is shitty if the outcome of a a meaningless match has such an impact on it.

Great stuff from Isner, Federer was probably injured.

bokehlicious
02-10-2012, 08:03 PM
Relax, guys. Federer still played great. I don't buy the decline crap as well. Look, if we had players like Djokovic, Isner, Murray back in 03 - 05 they would still beat him every now and then. The competition is toughening up, I guess.

Get out of that thread, clown :stupid:

SheepleBuster
02-10-2012, 08:03 PM
I bet all my VCash that people still call Isner an all-serve mug even after this win :lol:

Well... what's your point? He is American, isn't he?

Kat_YYZ
02-10-2012, 08:04 PM
Just watched the last two sets.

This was in no way Federer's fault. He played extremely well and may have just gotten down on himself at the very end.
Isner just barely outplayed him. IT WAS AWESOME!
:woohoo:
:woohoo:

I wouldn't say Fed played extremely well; he played what he probably thought was 'good enough' to beat Isner. And he was wrong, and by the time he realized that he couldn't find a way back in (especially as by that time Isner was more in the zone).

Fed says he doesn't underestimate any opponent, and I believe that he even believes that. But, it's human nature to do so. He didn't think he was going to lose to Isner on clay and he got burned. Guess he forgot about how Nadal struggled with Isner last year at RG, too.

tennis2tennis
02-10-2012, 08:04 PM
Now Isner needs to follow this win and take out Nadal for reals at the French this time. No 5 setters and all. Just eliminate him in the first round.

yanks getting carried away

alter ego
02-10-2012, 08:05 PM
Exactly. John can play really well on clay.

It's because of the bounce me thinks. On HCs his opponents use the slice a lot against him but on clay the slice stays way to high. Also Isner huge kicker gets an extra lift making it almost impossible to return.

lucyfur
02-10-2012, 08:05 PM
No...your life is shitty if the outcome of a a meaningless match has such an impact on it.

Great stuff from Isner, Federer was probably injured.
:rolleyes:

samanosuke
02-10-2012, 08:06 PM
Actually Swiss fucked themselves . This is the worst clay court which I have seen for very long time and Fed in unideal conditions can provide just Shankerer . Nice to see Breakballerer hasn't lost sharpness also

NadalesDios
02-10-2012, 08:06 PM
Now Isner needs to follow this win and take out Nadal for reals at the French this time. No 5 setters and all. Just eliminate him in the first round.

Sorry, Nadal don't lose on clay against this nobodys.Nadal is the clay goat, 6 Roland Garros remember...

Ash86
02-10-2012, 08:07 PM
Isner was awesome. :worship:

BUT this match basically puts to rest the idea that Fed's lack of Davis Cup success is all to do with the weakness of Switzerland's team - he just doesn't care. There was no fight from him at all in that 4th set - even if you're 2-5 0-40 down you still fight for every ball - it seemed like Fed had decided it wasn't his day and he was okay with losing. Compare this to Nadal at RG vs Isner - sure RG is more important but this was not an inconsequential match. Fed knew Switzerland's hopes in the tie rode with this match (and along with it any outside chance he had to finally get the Davis Cup) yet he just did not put in the effort.

His comments yesterday about it not mattering if they won/lost said it all. He doesn't think that Davis Cup, one of the oldest and most prestigious competitions in the sport, matters that much. There's not much lacking in Fed's record but the Davis Cup will stay there and he's got himself to blame a lot.

Let's see how he does at the Olympics - the other missing title - wouldn't be surprised if someone like Isner took him out there too - especially in a best of 3...

Sunset of Age
02-10-2012, 08:07 PM
I wouldn't say Fed played extremely well; he played what he probably thought was 'good enough' to beat Isner. And he was wrong, and by the time he realized that he couldn't find a way back in (especially as by that time Isner was more in the zone).

Fed says he doesn't underestimate any opponent, and I believe that he even believes that. But, it's human nature to do so. He didn't think he was going to lose to Isner on clay and he got burned. Guess he forgot about how Nadal struggled with Isner last year at RG, too.

Yep, it's a common pattern nowadays with Fed. I suppose he just doesn't want to admit it (not even to himself), but he does have a tendency to underestimate opponents nowadays I think.
And no, he didn't play 'extremely well' at all. For instance, the way he handed over that break in the second set was just absymal. :o

FedererBulgaria
02-10-2012, 08:09 PM
Booooooo...

Jade Fox
02-10-2012, 08:09 PM
Exactly. John can play really well on clay.

It does seem like he can actually hit through the surface, which isn't something you can say about a lot of big hitters. Clay does tend to dilute the power game.

But still a great win for John :hug: .

Sad for Roger but I gotta feeling this tie isn't completely decided yet.

SapELee
02-10-2012, 08:10 PM
kudos to Inser but I really don't think that Fed takes DC too seriously. Do you think that Isner could beat Rog in any GS? doubt it.

I disagree. To me, most great champions (in any sport) hate to lose no matter what the occasion is.

iriraz
02-10-2012, 08:10 PM
Probably Federer was frustrated in first place by seeing Wawrinka lose a close match and then having to play on this awful court.All in all even if the Swiss would come back and win this tie,their chances to win the title are slim.With no real backup in this squad there isn`t much hope that 2 guys have to play every time 3 straight days and get the job done.

OnyxRose
02-10-2012, 08:10 PM
Who saw this coming? :lol Congrats to John!

SheepleBuster
02-10-2012, 08:11 PM
Sorry, Nadal don't lose on clay against this nobodys.Nadal is the clay goat, 6 Roland Garros remember...

He got him to 5 sets last time, no? He is not a nobody. Sure. he won't beat Rafa in a final. But in a first round when Rafa is merciful, he might win 3 tiebreaks :D Just saying. It's not that impossible. Isner is actually a good player. Much more talented than that fat guy Roddick

bokehlicious
02-10-2012, 08:13 PM
He got him to 5 sets last time, no? He is not a nobody. Sure. he won't beat Rafa in a final. But in a first round when Rafa is merciful, he might win 3 tiebreaks :D Just saying. It's not that impossible. Isner is actually a good player. Much more talented than that fat guy Roddick

The USA might also win the FIFA World Cup, who knows? It's not that impossible, Comon!

Kat_YYZ
02-10-2012, 08:13 PM
Actually Swiss fucked themselves . This is the worst clay court which I have seen for very long time and Fed in unideal conditions can provide just Shankerer . Nice to see Breakballerer hasn't lost sharpness also

I do wonder why they had four months to prepare this court and they couldn't make it less high bouncing. Like they know Roger doesn't like the high ball, and Isner can bounce it not just high but over his head! About the only low bounces came on all the unpredictable bad bounces.

Ravel
02-10-2012, 08:13 PM
needs to get to Rotterdam I see

:p

lucyfur
02-10-2012, 08:14 PM
He got him to 5 sets last time, no? He is not a nobody. Sure. he won't beat Rafa in a final. But in a first round when Rafa is merciful, he might win 3 tiebreaks :D Just saying. It's not that impossible. Isner is actually a good player. Much more talented than that fat guy Roddick

Most of the ATP tour is more talented than Roddick.:p

bavaria100
02-10-2012, 08:14 PM
Congrats to John Isner. :yeah: This was probably the best match he's ever played. :)

Fumus
02-10-2012, 08:14 PM
www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2361861770

It's time to bandwaggon and join this fb group.

MIMIC
02-10-2012, 08:14 PM
Who? Doesn't sound like a RG champion to me :devil:

:sad:

thrust
02-10-2012, 08:15 PM
omg!! wasn't expecting this at all, but happy for john! what a confidence boost for USA! :)

Great win and confidence builder for John. Keep it up big man! I really thought the Swiss would win this 3-2. We shall see.

Mental Giant
02-10-2012, 08:15 PM
WTF? I turned this off at 1-1 and 0-40 on isners serve in the 4th and come back to see he held and won the set? isner was gifted this match back should have never got to a tb and was a a set and a break down. SMH

samanosuke
02-10-2012, 08:16 PM
I do wonder why they had four months to prepare this court and they couldn't make it less high bouncing. Like they know Roger doesn't like the high ball, and Isner can bounce it not just high but over his head! About the only low bounces came on all the unpredictable bad bounces.


I would be satisfied just with straight bouncing

masterclass
02-10-2012, 08:16 PM
(taken from live commentary thread)
The high bouncing clay definitely and obviously worked in the tall Mr. Isner's favor. So much for Mr. Federer's RG practice session. Mr. Federer needs to play low slice to Mr. Isner to give him the most trouble and make Mr. Isner move. But with high bounces it's difficult to hit good slice, as much as it is trying to hit a one handed backhand with power.

Congratulations to the USA team for sweeping the opening day. Mr. Isner served and played quite well (especially after 3rd set tb), and I'm sure once he and Mr. Courier saw the way the ball was taking off, Isner went for more shots to take advantage of that. Team USA has to be favored now.

The home team definitely has to question the clay court implementation with extremely high bounce characteristics.
Very strange.
I would expect most on the planet know that Mr. Federer prefers low bouncing courts.

Respectfully,
masterclass

Corey Feldman
02-10-2012, 08:16 PM
think you seen today what Fed really thought about playing 4 extra weeks during an Olympic year

then again he coulda just not bothered playing at all :facepalm:

Johnny Groove
02-10-2012, 08:16 PM
Gotta download this one.

From the reports here, seems like Isner was awesome, taking the confidence from taking Rafa to 5 at RG 1st round into this match. HUGE win for Isner, holy shit, on clay in Swiss vs. Federer himself? Watch out John Isner to make top 10 this year.

Fumus
02-10-2012, 08:17 PM
Federer clearly never had the champion mentality...he was only so much better than the pack for awhile he was never tested. I think only now we can see the true colors of Frauderer.

SheepleBuster
02-10-2012, 08:17 PM
Most of the ATP tour is more talented than Roddick.:p

well, you got me there :devil:

karool
02-10-2012, 08:17 PM
How do you think Isner took Nadal to 5 sets at Roland Garros last year? See some highlights, Isner's serve were bouncing like 3m of the floor. Nadal needed 3 sets until gets the way on return his serves.

Jovard
02-10-2012, 08:20 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAA Well done Johnny :yeah:
Craperer :bigwave: retire already!

samanosuke
02-10-2012, 08:20 PM
Nole must felt really bad when he saw how huge mug took grand slam from him last year

lucyfur
02-10-2012, 08:22 PM
think you seen today what Fed really thought about playing 4 extra weeks during an Olympic year

then again he coulda just not bothered playing at all :facepalm:

If he didn't care, why would he put himself through such physical exertion less than a week before his next tournament?:confused:

r2473
02-10-2012, 08:23 PM
Didn't see the match.

Seems like everyone is thinking Fed didn't tank this one? Isner actually beat him?

Time Violation
02-10-2012, 08:24 PM
Well, at least Wawrinka played 5 sets. :superlol:

Spot on - dedicated to all Wawrinka's bashers... what goes around comes around :lol:

Puschkin
02-10-2012, 08:25 PM
Nole must felt really bad when he saw how huge mug took grand slam from him last year
:rolleyes: Not every thread is about Nole.

lucyfur
02-10-2012, 08:26 PM
Didn't see the match.

Seems like everyone is thinking Fed didn't tank this one? Isner actually beat him?

Isner blew him off the court, simple as that.

theKSHE
02-10-2012, 08:26 PM
Bounces were pathetic though.

samanosuke
02-10-2012, 08:27 PM
Fed probably spent entire Christmas vacation thinking what is the most stupid thing which he could do in new year and then Davis Cup came on his mind

allpro
02-10-2012, 08:27 PM
amazing win for jisner :worship: and i'm thoroughly impressed by courier's leadership :worship:

i hope we can close it out.

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/4786/usagadsdenflag.jpg

allpro
02-10-2012, 08:28 PM
frauderer showed no fight whatsoever in the 4th set.....pathetic.

tennis2tennis
02-10-2012, 08:32 PM
speed up the courts :lol:,

no, wait - slow them down :confused:

a buy this clown a backehand

Isner just took the trash out

The clown with no backhand has a 31-5 H2H with all active yanks really wanna be talking about taking out the trash:wavey:

samanosuke
02-10-2012, 08:34 PM
The clown with no backhand has a 31-5 H2H with all active yanks really wanna be talking about taking out the trash:wavey:

he isn't a yank . you know which nation hates Fed the most

Fumus
02-10-2012, 08:34 PM
The clown with no backhand has a 31-5 H2H with all active yanks really wanna be talking about taking out the trash:wavey:

Fed has no balls.

The Americans could teach him something about rising to a challenge.

Fumus
02-10-2012, 08:35 PM
If he didn't care, why would he put himself through such physical exertion less than a week before his next tournament?:confused:

Federer said -“It doesn’t matter when and where it is, it’s all a matter of priorities. My team is a group of great friends, that’s what I enjoy about it, that I can spend some time with them, and hopefully try to win but if we don’t it doesn’t matter. It’s about trying your best and having a good time.”

LOL - Frauderer king of killing his bad matchups. He has no fight only finesse.

NadalesDios
02-10-2012, 08:35 PM
The clown with no backhand has a 31-5 H2H with all active yanks really wanna be talking about taking out the trash:wavey:

Federer fans better not talk about H2H :lol:

Jovard
02-10-2012, 08:37 PM
Didn't see the match.

Seems like everyone is thinking Fed didn't tank this one? Isner actually beat him?

Olderer playing for his country at his home in front of his biggest fans and he is maybe playing one of the last times in Switzerland. He dint tank, Johnny was simply better!

Puschkin
02-10-2012, 08:37 PM
Fed has no balls.

The Americans could teach him something about rising to a challenge.

I just wonder why no American has risen to the challenge of a GS tournamant since 2003.

NID
02-10-2012, 08:37 PM
Isner is good on clay, period. Took Djoker to five, Nadal to five, and has beaten Fed.
So much for the Swiss steamrolling over clueless Americans.

cobalt60
02-10-2012, 08:38 PM
oh yeah

MaxPower
02-10-2012, 08:39 PM
Isner is the real deal. Let's not act like Fed tanked or anything. Isner is simply a good player. He's in the top20 and probably on the rise. He will take down more top10 players the coming months for sure. The high bouncing surfaces work in the tall mans favor. Saw that in RG last year too. Good win, major confidence booster

samanosuke
02-10-2012, 08:40 PM
I think I know what is Fed trying to achieve . His goal is to lose all matches against dangerous opponents on minor tournaments to give them fake look for big stage occasions

Fumus
02-10-2012, 08:41 PM
I just wonder why no American has risen to the challenge of a GS tournamant since 2003.

Talent > Fighter mentality.

Federer hasn't ever risen to the challenge of DC. OOHH BURNN!!

romismak
02-10-2012, 08:42 PM
Instead of 2-0 for Suisse it is 2-0 for USa really no words, great victory for John, but really no words for Roger, Isner played on his worst surface, and Roger has also indoor conditions what he prefers, there is no excuse to win only 1 set and lost 3 with Isner.

luie
02-10-2012, 08:43 PM
Federer has really declined over the years.

njnetswill
02-10-2012, 08:46 PM
John has come a long way since his "all serve" days. :yeah:

Still surprised that he could win a set over Roger 6-2 though. Roger must have stopped fighting. :shrug:

Jimnik
02-10-2012, 08:46 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha:

Result of the year. :yeah:

rocketassist
02-10-2012, 08:47 PM
Yeah all Wawrinka's fault again :haha: :haha: :haha:

Made up for Johnny, his biggest career win in a BIG match.

lucyfur
02-10-2012, 08:48 PM
Federer said -“It doesn’t matter when and where it is, it’s all a matter of priorities. My team is a group of great friends, that’s what I enjoy about it, that I can spend some time with them, and hopefully try to win but if we don’t it doesn’t matter. It’s about trying your best and having a good time.”

LOL - Frauderer king of killing his bad matchups. He has no fight only finesse.
Still doesn't explain why he would play less than a week before his next tournament, he does have back issues.

dabeast
02-10-2012, 08:53 PM
:lol: suffering all those major losses really did a number on Ducktards, prob going on all-nite haterade bender

samanosuke
02-10-2012, 08:56 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha:



:haha: :haha: :haha:


spot on :yeah:

Just Fed can provide three :haha: :haha: :haha:

when you see other guys how much effort they leaving on court, how digging deep, want to win badly... even the most hated guys can't provide 3x :haha: . that's why our Feddy is so unique

Kat_YYZ
02-10-2012, 08:59 PM
Still doesn't explain why he would play less than a week before his next tournament, he does have back issues.

because the Swiss press would crucify him if he said he wasn't coming after they worked so hard to get back in the World Group?? It would also send a message to the other players that he is weak and unsure; the opposite of what he says in his interviews (that he's fit, feels fantastic and confident; loves being on the tour, etc). Besides, why do you think he cares about Rotterdam all that much?

tennis2tennis
02-10-2012, 09:02 PM
Yeah all Wawrinka's fault again :haha: :haha: :haha:

Made up for Johnny, his biggest career win in a BIG match.

what are you :stupid:? how the fuck does Roger's defeat vindicate Stan? When the thrust of the argument against Stan is that his unreliability gives Roger - with a 41-12 DC win loss ratio - no room for error?

asmazif
02-10-2012, 09:03 PM
the real question is whether Fed's losing streak will beat his preceding winning streak.

2 AND COUNTING

luie
02-10-2012, 09:04 PM
Not totally expected in the grand scheme of this
Fed just a few months shy of the age when Sampras
Retired.
I think federer is headed that way with his game in
Massive decline.
Only maintaining his position in this era because it is weak.

bjurra
02-10-2012, 09:09 PM
I wouldn't say Fed played extremely well; he played what he probably thought was 'good enough' to beat Isner. And he was wrong, and by the time he realized that he couldn't find a way back in (especially as by that time Isner was more in the zone).

Fed says he doesn't underestimate any opponent, and I believe that he even believes that. But, it's human nature to do so. He didn't think he was going to lose to Isner on clay and he got burned.

That's exactly what I thought when watching the match.

Horatio Caine
02-10-2012, 09:09 PM
:lol:

You couldn't make it up.

Terrible day for Switzerland, and I wonder how many people would have predicted this.


USA with a commanding 2-0 lead, but the tie isn't necessarily over yet. That is, assuming that Switzerland wants to fight back. Federer and Wawrinka need to take to the court tomorrow - the only real chance for Switzerland to pull a rubber back, and even then they are surely marginal underdogs against Bryan and Isner/Fish.

I'll be surprised if the Swiss change the original line-up, at least to respect their paying public.

Roddickominator
02-10-2012, 09:09 PM
I think the clay court helped Isner more than Federer :lol:

The high bounce kept putting any defensive shot by Federer right into Isner's wheelhouse and he was crushing forehand after forehand. Not to mention the obvious advantage of 20 ft high kick serves. Federer adjusted to some of the kick serves later in the match by taking them far back in the court, but Isner was ripping the reply for winners anyway. Also by far the best returning i've ever seen from Isner....the court slowing the ball down to give Isner extra time and the high bounce putting it right in Isner's zone resulted in a bunch of return winners.

Also, the court was crap. Neither player moved well on it, and there were plenty of bad bounces. Federer never seemed in rhythm to me and never seemed emotionally invested in the match.

John said it was the biggest win of his career, and I have to agree. Hopefully it gives him confidence that transfers to Masters series and Slams.

bjurra
02-10-2012, 09:11 PM
Not totally expected in the grand scheme of this
Fed just a few months shy of the age when Sampras
Retired.
I think federer is headed that way with his game in
Massive decline.
Only maintaining his position in this era because it is weak.

He is mantaining his position because he is still brilliant in many of his matches.

Tennis-Life
02-10-2012, 09:11 PM
Fed :confused:

May be its time to retire :rain:

ciprianned
02-10-2012, 09:13 PM
This is the end for Roger :( ?

tennis2tennis
02-10-2012, 09:13 PM
I think the clay court helped Isner more than Federer :lol:

The high bounce kept putting any defensive shot by Federer right into Isner's wheelhouse and he was crushing forehand after forehand. Not to mention the obvious advantage of 20 ft high kick serves. Federer adjusted to some of the kick serves later in the match by taking them far back in the court, but Isner was ripping the reply for winners anyway. Also by far the best returning i've ever seen from Isner....the court slowing the ball down to give Isner extra time and the high bounce putting it right in Isner's zone resulted in a bunch of return winners.

Also, the court was crap. Neither player moved well on it, and there were plenty of bad bounces. Federer never seemed in rhythm to me and never seemed emotionally invested in the match.

John said it was the biggest win of his career, and I have to agree. Hopefully it gives him confidence that transfers to Masters series and Slams.

The most honest assessment from an American yet! John played great, was attacking and deserved to win but was aided by a subpar and nonchalant Roger

tennis2tennis
02-10-2012, 09:15 PM
Fed :confused:

May be its time to retire :rain:

It'll be interesting to see if protecting a legacy would win over his love of playing

Fumus
02-10-2012, 09:21 PM
Still doesn't explain why he would play less than a week before his next tournament, he does have back issues.

Yes, there is a large monkey on it.

bjurra
02-10-2012, 09:30 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Federer have to play in order to be eligble for Olympics?

Lee
02-10-2012, 09:31 PM
I said In live commentary thread that Isner not likely to win after he won the second set. I am soooo happy he proved me wrong.


:woohoo:

luie
02-10-2012, 09:32 PM
Federer needs ahem supplements ASAP .

DomachowskaDreamer
02-10-2012, 09:34 PM
Isner :eek::bowdown::hearts:

leng jai
02-10-2012, 09:36 PM
Not that surprising if you watched the 1st rubber. This is one of the most fucked up clay courts I've ever seen. When Isner is serving from the clouds theres not much even the mighty FG can do.

Ajde.

Kat_YYZ
02-10-2012, 09:37 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Federer have to play in order to be eligble for Olympics?

no, I think he secured that last year playing vs Portugal and Australia.

Sunset of Age
02-10-2012, 09:49 PM
I think the clay court helped Isner more than Federer :lol:

It most definitely did.
I still wonder who this Swiss moron was/is, thinking that this very high-bouncing clay would do the Swiss team a favour.
Preparing this particular kind of surface is such a :stupid: idea that it actually makes me :lol:.

The high bounce kept putting any defensive shot by Federer right into Isner's wheelhouse and he was crushing forehand after forehand. Not to mention the obvious advantage of 20 ft high kick serves. Federer adjusted to some of the kick serves later in the match by taking them far back in the court, but Isner was ripping the reply for winners anyway. Also by far the best returning i've ever seen from Isner....the court slowing the ball down to give Isner extra time and the high bounce putting it right in Isner's zone resulted in a bunch of return winners.

Also, the court was crap. Neither player moved well on it, and there were plenty of bad bounces. Federer never seemed in rhythm to me and never seemed emotionally invested in the match.

John said it was the biggest win of his career, and I have to agree. Hopefully it gives him confidence that transfers to Masters series and Slams.

Nice post. BTW, Fed himself agrees with you, said that he himself "wasn't playing bad", but that Isner just played exceptional tennis today. :)

Orka_n
02-10-2012, 10:04 PM
Wow, this Roger is truly as good as he was in his prime.

Ajde

BodyServe
02-10-2012, 10:09 PM
:lol: :lol:
What's the excuse? back injury? bad bounces? net cord? junior returns?

Yeah he is the goat, the goat of making excuses that it.

Sunset of Age
02-10-2012, 10:11 PM
:lol: :lol:
What's the excuse? back injury? bad bounces? net cord? junior returns?

Yeah he is the goat, the goat of making excuses that it.

Excuses? Isner was the better player by far today and deservedly won.
I don't see your problem.

LawrenceOfTennis
02-10-2012, 10:12 PM
:lol: :lol:
What's the excuse? back injury? bad bounces? net cord? junior returns?

Yeah he is the goat, the goat of making excuses that it.

Agree. His fans are worse though.
When he loses a match he "just did not care" and was "friendly and gave it to the opponent" or "had serious injuries, was just too heroic to give it up" etc etc. :lol:

Orka_n
02-10-2012, 10:13 PM
Agree. His fans are worse though.
When he loses a match he "just did not care" and was "friendly and gave it to the opponent" or "had serious injuries, was just too heroic to give it up" etc etc. :lol:That goes for every single fanbase on MTF. :zzz: Fedtards aren't even that bad compared to some others.

BodyServe
02-10-2012, 10:16 PM
Excuses? Isner was the better player by far today and deservedly won.
I don't see your problem.

No, the problem is that Federer himself and the fans here often make cheap excuses, there are only few posters like you who analyses matches correctly and takes loss as they are. :worship:

Agree. His fans are worse though.
When he loses a match he "just did not care" and was "friendly and gave it to the opponent" or "had serious injuries, was just too heroic to give it up" etc etc. :lol:

Yeah, exactly my thoughts.

Certinfy
02-10-2012, 10:20 PM
Agree. His fans are worse though.
When he loses a match he "just did not care" and was "friendly and gave it to the opponent" or "had serious injuries, was just too heroic to give it up" etc etc. :lol:
Exactly yet it's Fedtards that complain when Nadal brings up his excuses. :lol:

Sunset of Age
02-10-2012, 10:21 PM
No, the problem is that Federer himself and the fans here often make cheap excuses, there are only few posters like you who analyses matches correctly and takes loss as they are. :worship:

Well that goes for the most of fanbases, I think. ;)

If Fed had indeed had a chance in those two final sets, or had been playing badly, blew his chances, or whatever, I'd surely have pointed it out (:spit:). Fact is that he was just totally outplayed by Isner today.
There's never any harm in just admitting that the other guy was the better player on the day I think. Same goes for Fed's loss to Tsonga in Wimbledon last year. No excuses, just the better player won, and congrats to him.

Thanks for your kind words btw. Much appreciated. :D

henke007
02-10-2012, 10:22 PM
Is the Federer will fall thread bumped ?!

Orka_n
02-10-2012, 10:24 PM
Exactly yet it's Fedtards that complain when Nadal brings up his excuses. :lol:And now it's Nadaltards who are complaining. :facepalm: There's no difference.

alfonsojose
02-10-2012, 10:25 PM
Who cares about DC.

Sunset of Age
02-10-2012, 10:26 PM
Is the Federer will fall thread bumped ?!

http://www.posterplanet.net/moviescd/images/dirty-harry-go-ahead-make-day-movie-poster-ANA5053.jpg

:D

henke007
02-10-2012, 10:28 PM
I saw it was the is Fed done thread that was bumped. I just wrote something very enlighting over there ;)

Kat_YYZ
02-10-2012, 10:33 PM
:lol: :lol:
What's the excuse? back injury? bad bounces? net cord? junior returns?

Yeah he is the goat, the goat of making excuses that it.

Agree. His fans are worse though.
When he loses a match he "just did not care" and was "friendly and gave it to the opponent" or "had serious injuries, was just too heroic to give it up" etc etc. :lol:

Bees. Amercanized killer bees. :mad:
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0azH3Pf9tGdww/610x.jpg
caption: Switzerland's Davis Cup team member Roger Federer brushes a wasp away during a practice session in Fribourg, February 9, 2012.

Why the hell is there a bee in a tennis stadium in Switzerland in the middle of February during one of the most frigid winters in the region?

Do the American players come from warm climates where they still have bees around? Was Federer attacked by a bee during practice?? :mad:

I think we can all see what happened. :o

Sunset of Age
02-10-2012, 10:37 PM
^^ "Attack of the Killer Bees" :haha:
"It's a CONSPIRACY!!!" :armed:

As for why there was a bee/wasp/whatever insect around over there, the biologist's explanation: the queens of said insects survive winter by either hibernating under the soil, roofs of buildings, or whatever. The temperature in the arena might have woken up the poor animal.
NB: judging on that picture, it's indeed a wasp queen. ;)

alfonsojose
02-10-2012, 10:42 PM
Federer needs ahem supplements ASAP .

He's in the wrong national team :lol: :aplot:

FedFan
02-10-2012, 10:44 PM
Why the talk about the excuses from Federer? I have not read anything until now. Federer himself has praised his opponent's game.
There seem to be fans, who are not able to read or understand interviews and are therefore willing to blame a fanbase or an athlete they don't like without sticking to facts. They need such discussions like a hole in the head. Ridiculous. Yes Roger has lost a match, as we know he is not getting younger, but we should not forget that his last loss in the Daviscup was in 2003. Not that bad after all and considering the fact that he is not part of a team with several strong players.

Jimnik
02-10-2012, 10:52 PM
He's only played one tie a year since 2003. He lost several doubles rubbers and his singles were all against low ranked opps, except Czech Republic.

Johnny Groove
02-10-2012, 10:58 PM
Bees. Amercanized killer bees. :mad:
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0azH3Pf9tGdww/610x.jpg
caption: Switzerland's Davis Cup team member Roger Federer brushes a wasp away during a practice session in Fribourg, February 9, 2012.

Why the hell is there a bee in a tennis stadium in Switzerland in the middle of February during one of the most frigid winters in the region?

Do the American players come from warm climates where they still have bees around? Was Federer attacked by a bee during practice?? :mad:

I think we can all see what happened. :o

^^ "Attack of the Killer Bees" :haha:
"It's a CONSPIRACY!!!" :armed:

As for why there was a bee/wasp/whatever insect around over there, the biologist's explanation: the queens of said insects survive winter by either hibernating under the soil, roofs of buildings, or whatever. The temperature in the arena might have woken up the poor animal.
NB: judging on that picture, it's indeed a wasp queen. ;)

Reminds me of Marseille 2006 when Rafa lost to Clement 7-5 in the third in the SF, getting stung by a bee mid-match :lol:

Sunset of Age
02-10-2012, 11:01 PM
Reminds me of Marseille 2006 when Rafa lost to Clement 7-5 in the third in the SF, getting stung by a bee mid-match :lol:

:lol: yeah I remember that. Thought I had that gif stored on my HD but can't find it anymore. :(

FedFan
02-10-2012, 11:07 PM
He's only played one tie a year since 2003. He lost several doubles rubbers and his singles were all against low ranked opps, except Czech Republic.

He played 15 matches without losing. This is not so bad, considering the fact he was always under enormous pressure, because Stan is not a very reliable Daviscup partner to say the least. ;)
As I have said before, Roger could never count on a team with strong players like many other nations.

Roamed
02-10-2012, 11:16 PM
WTF.

Anyway Federer isn't making excuses and neither will I. Isner played great. Chances now look slim for Switzerland. Moving on...

Slice Winner
02-10-2012, 11:21 PM
Isner said he played better today than when he took Nadal to 5 last year at RG.

bokehlicious
02-10-2012, 11:23 PM
Isner said he played better today than when he took Nadal to 5 last year at RG.

That is obvious.

rinnegan
02-10-2012, 11:25 PM
:rolls:

r3d_d3v1l_
02-10-2012, 11:44 PM
Maybe this justs shows that Isner´s last year match against Nadal wasn´t a fluke. In a fast, high bounce clay court he can be a real threat. Even more with that huge second serve.

But it´s really bad, in my book, to lose against Isner on clay, if you´re a Top4/5. Bet Federer´s morale was in the shit, knowing he had to dig out the win in the tie, after watching Mugrinka failing against Fish.

buddyholly
02-10-2012, 11:50 PM
Didn't he just play to get into the Olympics? He probably wants to lose so that he doesn't have to be bothered with any more Davis Cup, but do the minimum to get to Wimbledon. Any tournament where the umpire might call "Game set and match Switzerland'' instead of "Game, set and match Federer'' would be of little interest to Roger anyway.

rocketassist
02-10-2012, 11:51 PM
what are you :stupid:? how the fuck does Roger's defeat vindicate Stan? When the thrust of the argument against Stan is that his unreliability gives Roger - with a 41-12 DC win loss ratio - no room for error?

Er because he lost too when his match was easier on paper?

Jimnik
02-10-2012, 11:53 PM
Didn't he just play to get into the Olympics?
No. He was already eligible.

Notice Djokovic, Nadal and Murray didn't play this weekend.

Corey Feldman
02-11-2012, 12:01 AM
whenever you see Fed joking and playing around in practise (he was with Stan days before) , its never a good sign for him in that tournament

clown.

deyaT87
02-11-2012, 12:07 AM
great win for John :D
YEAH GO USA :bigclap:

Slice Winner
02-11-2012, 12:27 AM
whenever you see Fed joking and playing around in practise (he was with Stan days before) , its never a good sign for him in that tournament

clown.

Yeah, Fed sucked real bad in Wim 09.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9B7-Rbwu9o

He messes about in nearly all practice sessions.

n8
02-11-2012, 12:35 AM
Isner almost beats Nadal at Roland Garros last year and now this. The big match player on clay. :worship:

BroTree123
02-11-2012, 12:35 AM
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL :help:.

ballbasher101
02-11-2012, 12:42 AM
Isner is no mug so this result is not that shocking to be honest. I did not see the match but it sounds like big John played well. Federer is more worried about getting slam number 17. Tough loss for Federer but if this was in a major Federer would probably have won.

fast_clay
02-11-2012, 12:44 AM
Not totally expected in the grand scheme of this
Fed just a few months shy of the age when Sampras
Retired.
I think federer is headed that way with his game in
Massive decline.
Only maintaining his position in this era because it is weak.

He is mantaining his position because he is still brilliant in many of his matches.

the ranks below 4 are weak, have been weak, and will look to be weak for some years to come allowing fed easy passage to the semis and quarters of slams for however long he wishes to continue his career...

otherwise, this is what happens in davis cup, especially when you repeatedly decline the chance to represent... isner had a friend in a davis cup spirit that does not enjoy being disrespected and that spirit has rightfully passed a heavy judgement upon federer here...

Mae
02-11-2012, 12:46 AM
Who would have thought of this result :shrug:

LinkMage
02-11-2012, 01:05 AM
Expected result

Isner took Nadull to 5 sets at Roland Garros. Fedmug's best was extending Nadull to 4 sets. :shrug:

zlaja777
02-11-2012, 01:16 AM
Wow John! On clay. Well done.

cswab22
02-11-2012, 01:55 AM
John :eek: :bowdown:

Hope he can build on this and make a big run this year like top 8 which I think he can achieve.

Evitman
02-11-2012, 02:05 AM
Stan :facepalm:
Roger :facepalm: :facepalm:

GOAT in progress
02-11-2012, 02:37 AM
Federer crying now as back then:crying 2:

gulzhan
02-11-2012, 03:52 AM
I know Federer is declining but still, it's a very unexpected result. I was alarmed though when I saw Roger on the team bench until the very end of the Wawrinka match :o It's unusual practice. I guess he didn't anticipate a serious fight from Isner.

BroTree123
02-11-2012, 03:56 AM
New low :worship:

ZaZoo)
02-11-2012, 03:59 AM
what is this, I don't even.. :haha:

Snowwy
02-11-2012, 03:59 AM
Isner is actually really good on certain clay. Everyone obviously remembers Roland Garros.

nadalwon2012
02-11-2012, 04:13 AM
No surprise Isner is the only man ever to force Nadal to play 5 sets at Roland Garros.

siffleanimaux
02-11-2012, 05:09 AM
It really makes me wonder how Federer, the last man to play such graceful tennis, has so many haters. You aren't really a fan of tennis if you hate his game.

samanosuke
02-11-2012, 05:15 AM
Isner is actually really good on certain clay.

and what is your point ?

LoveFifteen
02-11-2012, 05:52 AM
It really makes me wonder how Federer, the last man to play such graceful tennis, has so many haters. You aren't really a fan of tennis if you hate his game.

Federer has haters primarily because of his personality, not because of his talent. I respect his tennis immensely, but I definitely am not a fan whatsoever. Also, I think my hatred of Federer is increased by almost every Fed fan I've met in real life who says some variation of "anyone who knows anything about tennis should be a huge Federer fan" or "if you're not a Federer fan, you don't like tennis".

I don't have to like a petulant, bitchy diva who behaves like a bitch when he loses just because he plays gracefully.

nadalwon2012
02-11-2012, 05:57 AM
It really makes me wonder how Federer, the last man to play such graceful tennis, has so many haters. You aren't really a fan of tennis if you hate his game.

3 factors:

1) People generally can relate to (and gain inspiration from) players who rely on great work ethic, more than great talent.
2) People generally prefer humble people.
3) Federer's game is modelled on the text book. When you watch Federer vs Nadal live at the AO, it is Nadal's unorthodox shots that look more spectacular and more entertaining.

And I was a Federer fan in 2003 but quickly switched to being a Nadal fan before 2004, and never looked back.

Juan Ma Del Pony
02-11-2012, 05:58 AM
LOL Lovefifteen...preach it, sister! I actually like Fed more these days because he shows some vulnerability. When he was in his prime, rooting for Federer was like rooting for God. He NEVER lost! Now that he's kinda declining, it can be fun to root for him since the outcome is more uncertain.

Still, as an American, I was rooting for Big John today, and boy did he deliver!!!

star
02-11-2012, 06:04 AM
Isner is no mug so this result is not that shocking to be honest. I did not see the match but it sounds like big John played well. Federer is more worried about getting slam number 17. Tough loss for Federer but if this was in a major Federer would probably have won.

That was how I summed up the match. Federer talks big about Davis Cup, but his actions show that he doesn’t care about Davis Cup as much as he does winning in other arenas, and especially a GS. I have no doubt he would have fought hard to win even after being down had this been a GS tourney.

But, I’m happy things turned out this way even if I do see Isner’s win being a bit devalued because Fed lacked top motivation.

nadalwon2012
02-11-2012, 06:21 AM
That was how I summed up the match. Federer talks big about Davis Cup, but his actions show that he doesn’t care about Davis Cup as much as he does winning in other arenas, and especially a GS. I have no doubt he would have fought hard to win even after being down had this been a GS tourney.

But, I’m happy things turned out this way even if I do see Isner’s win being a bit devalued because Fed lacked top motivation.

I agree, it is hard to imagine Isner knocking Federer out of a slam. Seems extremely unlikley. Then again, Berdych knocked Federer out of Wimbledon 2010. We'll see. Maybe Federer is about to lose early in slams. Either way, props to Isner. He looked truly dangerous at Roland Garros vs Nadal. Isner is the first player I'll look for when the slam draws come out from now on. Usually I look for Tsonga first (even though Nadal has beaten Tsonga in 4 straight outdoor hardcourt meetings).

*Jean*
02-11-2012, 06:25 AM
Roger :(

cardio
02-11-2012, 08:09 AM
Any highlight videos ?

RIboy
02-11-2012, 08:34 AM
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeees!

Jaz
02-11-2012, 08:57 AM
Lol.

DC thats all that matter.

Sombrerero loco
02-11-2012, 09:14 AM
olderer retire please

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
02-11-2012, 09:26 AM
lets not get carried away

isner is one of the few guys that can beat anyone on any surface

that serve is amazing

Hensafmurrafter
02-11-2012, 09:26 AM
Somebody call PETA... Big John just thrashed a GOAT!!!

bokehlicious
02-11-2012, 09:46 AM
It really makes me wonder how Federer, the last man to play such graceful tennis, has so many haters. You aren't really a fan of tennis if you hate his game.

Never got it either.

When you watch Federer vs Nadal live at the AO, it is Nadal's unorthodox shots that look more spectacular and more entertaining.

:lol: spanish fanboys :haha:

Clay Death
02-11-2012, 10:19 AM
dont get too carried away. he is not going anywhere.

he just had an off day at the office.

bokehlicious
02-11-2012, 10:26 AM
he just had an off day at the office.

He didn't have. Fed played pretty well actually. Isner was just out of this world. When such a player can remain for an entire match "in the zone" it's pretty much unplayable for anyone.

Dmitry Verdasco
02-11-2012, 10:35 AM
Isner defeats Federer 4-6 6-3 7-6 6-2

http://i43.tinypic.com/23sd5w4.jpg

ossie
02-11-2012, 10:40 AM
the only thing this means is that federer still doesnt give a shit about davis cup.

FlameOn
02-11-2012, 10:48 AM
:haha: Oh dear.

FedFan
02-11-2012, 10:52 AM
the only thing this means is that federer still doesnt give a shit about davis cup.

This is not correct. Everytime Roger showed up in Daviscup he gave all for his country. But as Stan seldom lives up to the expectations and is an underachiever in Daviscup, Roger is always under big pressure. Yesterday you could see he was a bit tight and nervous during the encounter. It was not lack of motivation, but nerves and an opponent, who played too good yesterday.
Without motivation Roger would never have won 15 matches in a row since 2003.

tripwires
02-11-2012, 10:54 AM
the only thing this means is that federer still doesnt give a shit about davis cup.

I would feel better about this loss if this were true. Alas, it is not.

leng jai
02-11-2012, 11:09 AM
This loss shows Fed simply does not care about his fans.

Gagsquet
02-11-2012, 11:35 AM
fixed

RIboy
02-11-2012, 11:53 AM
Any highlight videos ?

+1

Sham Kay
02-11-2012, 11:53 AM
Agree. His fans are worse though.
When he loses a match he "just did not care" and was "friendly and gave it to the opponent" or "had serious injuries, was just too heroic to give it up" etc etc. :lol:

Fedtards are the nicest fanbase on this forum. Respeck them bro.

Slice Winner
02-11-2012, 12:10 PM
3 factors:
3) Federer's game is modelled on the text book. When you watch Federer vs Nadal live at the AO, it is Nadal's unorthodox shots that look more spectacular and more entertaining.

:facepalm:

mark73
02-11-2012, 12:10 PM
Federer was declared dead numerous times since 2008 and has won no slams since. Oh wait....

tealeaves
02-11-2012, 12:20 PM
Fedmug :facepalm:

samanosuke
02-11-2012, 12:20 PM
3 factors:


3) Federer's game is modelled on the text book. When you watch Federer vs Nadal live at the AO, it is Nadal's unorthodox shots that look more spectacular and more entertaining.



hope you'll find your piece one day, mate

rocketassist
02-11-2012, 12:20 PM
Funny how it's still Wawrinka's fault Fed lost.

GasquetFan
02-11-2012, 12:21 PM
Well this is unexpected :o:o

dabeast
02-11-2012, 12:33 PM
3 factors:

1) People generally can relate to (and gain inspiration from) players who rely on great work ethic, more than great talent.
2) People generally prefer humble people.
3) Federer's game is modelled on the text book. When you watch Federer vs Nadal live at the AO, it is Nadal's unorthodox shots that look more spectacular and more entertaining.

And I was a Federer fan in 2003 but quickly switched to being a Nadal fan before 2004, and never looked back.

looky here, guess tw wasn't big enough to contain this piece of work. Welcome :) i guarantee your stay here will be infinitely longer than your previous choice of residence, Nad-loving moderation agrees.

nalbyfan
02-11-2012, 12:37 PM
Ha ha !!! midget mentality goat cheese...what an humiliation in front of his homecrowd...sooo delicious to see him bite the clay, good for his big ego and well deserved win for Big John !!

EddieNero
02-11-2012, 12:43 PM
I'm not THAT surprised actually. I knew Isner could be a tough match-up for Federer even on slow clay considering his excellent display of agressive clacourt tennis against Nadal at RG.
I suppose Roge had absolutely zero willingness to fight for this match since things started to go wrong.
Truth is Federer has never been really comitted for the Davis Cup and the fact of his decline only emphasizes that.

Sunset of Age
02-11-2012, 12:46 PM
Isner is actually really good on certain clay. Everyone obviously remembers Roland Garros.

Apparently a lot of folks don't. :o

3 factors:

1) People generally can relate to (and gain inspiration from) players who rely on great work ethic, more than great talent.
2) People generally prefer humble people.
3) Federer's game is modelled on the text book. When you watch Federer vs Nadal live at the AO, it is Nadal's unorthodox shots that look more spectacular and more entertaining.

And I was a Federer fan in 2003 but quickly switched to being a Nadal fan before 2004, and never looked back.

:worship: :worship: :worship:
Your ban at TT was a devastating loss for all who enjoyed your abundancy of genuine pearls of wisdom-posts over there. Glad to see you haven't given up on it but now convert your attention to us over here, poor souls that we are.
May we laugh about learn a lot from you. Bamos!

Preston
02-11-2012, 01:06 PM
This is not a big deal. Federer will be fine this season. Remember Murry last year lost to Donald Young, DONALD YOUNG (who is much less dangerous than Isner, tennis wise), yet Murry still made 4, yes 4 straight Slam semis plus won a handful of tournaments to include a couple Masters even after that. See, it's not the end of the world folks, Fed will be fine.

Kiedis
02-11-2012, 01:22 PM
3 factors:

1) People generally can relate to (and gain inspiration from) players who rely on great work ethic, more than great talent.
2) People generally prefer humble people.
3) Federer's game is modelled on the text book. When you watch Federer vs Nadal live at the AO, it is Nadal's unorthodox shots that look more spectacular and more entertaining.

And I was a Federer fan in 2003 but quickly switched to being a Nadal fan before 2004, and never looked back.

Great post. Its a pitty than the always arrogant and bitter Federer fanbase can't agree.

1) People generally can relate to (and gain inspiration from) players who rely on great work ethic, more than great talent.

There are two main reasons people enjoy sports.

First one is shared with any other show or entertainment spectacle: people enjoy seeing human talent and skills shining on the big stage. Hedonism at its best.

The second one is that sports is the greatest inspirational source of our time. Effort and competitiveness to try to maximize the talent gifted to you and try to achieve all you can... is there any better metaphor? Some people love athletes with limited natural talent but getting great achievements in spite of this.

For me being a fan of a guy who was born with a enormous talent does not make sense. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy them but they don't inspire me...

2) People generally prefer humble people.

Federer has the right to be arrogant. I really don't have any problem with this. What bothers me is his fanbase. Mostly bitter, humorless, arrogant, always neglecting the rest of the players and fanbases. Few people really have something against Federer IMO, but many of us enjoyed seeing his fangirls humiliated :devil:

3) Federer's game is modelled on the text book. When you watch Federer vs Nadal live at the AO, it is Nadal's unorthodox shots that look more spectacular and more entertaining.

Very true too. He play a classical baseline/all around tennis at a very high level but on the contrary of Rafa he hasn't brought anything new to the game. I don't understand what is the problem Fedtards have to recognize this fact.

nalbyfan
02-11-2012, 01:27 PM
Great post. Its a pitty than the always arrogant and bitter Federer fanbase can't agree.

1) People generally can relate to (and gain inspiration from) players who rely on great work ethic, more than great talent.

There are two main reasons people enjoy sports.

First one is shared with any other show or entertainment spectacle: people enjoy seeing human talent and skills shining on the big stage. Hedonism at its best.

The second one is that sports is the greatest inspirational source of our time. Effort and competitiveness to try to maximize the talent gifted to you and try to achieve all you can... is there any better metaphor? Some people love athletes with limited natural talent but getting great achievements in spite of this.

For me being a fan of a guy who was born with a enormous talent does not make sense. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy them but they don't inspire me...

2) People generally prefer humble people.

Federer has the right to be arrogant. I really don't have any problem with this. What bothers me is his fanbase. Mostly bitter, humorless, arrogant, always neglecting the rest of the players and fanbases. Few people really have something against Federer IMO, but many of us enjoyed seeing his fangirls humiliated :devil:

3) Federer's game is modelled on the text book. When you watch Federer vs Nadal live at the AO, it is Nadal's unorthodox shots that look more spectacular and more entertaining.

Very true too. He play a classical baseline/all around tennis at a very high level but on the contrary of Rafa he hasn't brought anything new to the game. I don't understand what is the problem Fedtards have to recognize this fact.

Both goat cheese and his fans are arrogant !!

Raferminator
02-11-2012, 01:43 PM
Awwwww.... Poor little Muger lost again, huh? :sad:

Let's face it folks, everybody KNEW Muger was going to lose. That's what Muger does nowadays. I'm tired of seeing Frauderer continue to live up to his name. It would be refreshing if he even put up a fight once in awhile instead of completely HUMILIATING himself over and over again. Rafa had him for breakfast at the AO, Isner just had an in between meal snack.

Muuuuuuuugerrrrrrr! :mad: YOU are a disgusting, sickening, maudlin, phony, all-serve DISGRACE to the sport !!! Never have I seen a spectacle this repulsive in my entire life. You don't CHOKE like that when Isner has gifted you a set and a half lead, Muger !!! You just PLAIN SUCK, Muger! And you wonder why fans are DEMANDING that you retire?! Look at the scoreboard, chump!!!

MUGER FRAUDERER, You make me feel NAUSEOUS !!! :mad:

John, thanks for taking out the garbage on Friday. I know it wasn't a tough task for you to do, but thanks anyway.

fivebargate
02-11-2012, 01:49 PM
1) People generally can relate to (and gain inspiration from) players who rely on great work ethic, more than great talent.

Yeah, Federer is famed for his lack of workrate. If only he put a bit more into his sport he could have won a peerless amount of slams and stayed at the top of the game into his 30's.

2) People generally prefer humble people.

People absolutely detest clearly false humility. "For sure chhI am not tha fahhvoreet....for sure ees Roger, no? chHHee play unbeleafable...chI only win chhRoland Gahros seex times....but he is best of tha heestory, no? chII am only poor humble chIslandboy, no?". Had to laugh last year when Nads was on the end of yet another humping from Nole...when asked what he was going to do to be effective against Djoke - "Jast keep working with beeg illusion....and every day with the hahmble". Yeah Rafa...I am not so sure you maintain I persona of humility by *saying* you are humble! :D

3) Federer's game is modelled on the text book. When you watch Federer vs Nadal live at the AO, it is Nadal's unorthodox shots that look more spectacular and more entertaining.

:worship::rolleyes:

FedFan
02-11-2012, 01:57 PM
I don't see a lot of bitter fedfans around, but some bitter anti fed fans, who are not willing to discuss, but only giving proof of their constant frustration. They are that frustrated because without doubt, there has never been a player, who was given so much respect from the public. There was never a player with a bigger fanbase. There was hardly a player with better technique, or with such elegance. And after all he is also respected highly by his peers. Sure this is bad to accept from the anti fed fans, it is easy to understand. ;)
Maybe Federer is done (or not), but most of his records will remain. His fair on court behaviour will hopefully give an example for the younger generation.
He surely is not a player, who will be forgotten as soon as he hangs up the racket.

Chirag
02-11-2012, 02:12 PM
Awwwww.... Poor little Muger lost again, huh? :sad:

Let's face it folks, everybody KNEW Muger was going to lose. That's what Muger does nowadays. I'm tired of seeing Frauderer continue to live up to his name. It would be refreshing if he even put up a fight once in awhile instead of completely HUMILIATING himself over and over again. Rafa had him for breakfast at the AO, Isner just had an in between meal snack.

Muuuuuuuugerrrrrrr! :mad: YOU are a disgusting, sickening, maudlin, phony, all-serve DISGRACE to the sport !!! Never have I seen a spectacle this repulsive in my entire life. You don't CHOKE like that when Isner has gifted you a set and a half lead, Muger !!! You just PLAIN SUCK, Muger! And you wonder why fans are DEMANDING that you retire?! Look at the scoreboard, chump!!!

MUGER FRAUDERER, You make me feel NAUSEOUS !!! :mad:

John, thanks for taking out the garbage on Friday. I know it wasn't a tough task for you to do, but thanks anyway.

once again to ignore a poster you need to add him to the foes list right ?

nalbyfan
02-11-2012, 02:14 PM
I don't see a lot of bitter fedfans around, but some bitter anti fed fans, who are not willing to discuss, but only giving proof of their constant frustration. They are that frustrated because without doubt, there has never been a player, who was given so much respect from the public. There was never a player with a bigger fanbase. There was hardly a player with better technique, or with such elegance. And after all he is also respected highly by his peers. Sure this is bad to accept from the anti fed fans, it is easy to understand. ;)
Maybe Federer is done (or not), but most of his records will remain. His fair on court behaviour will hopefully give an example for the younger generation.
He surely is not a player, who will be forgotten as soon as he hangs up the racket.

Everybody said the same about Connors, Agassi, Sampras...goat cheese is just another player, he has nothing special

FedFan
02-11-2012, 02:19 PM
Everybody said the same about Connors, Agassi, Sampras...goat cheese is just another player, he has nothing special

For someone, who is blind or not willing to see, then yes. ;)But let me say this. Even if he is not the goat, he is a bit more special than your fave, no?

shotgun
02-11-2012, 02:43 PM
Federer really wasn't born for Davis Cup it seems. :lol:

abraxas21
02-11-2012, 03:48 PM
wtf federer

retire

LawrenceOfTennis
02-11-2012, 03:49 PM
:lol: switzerland :wavey:

finishingmove
02-11-2012, 04:07 PM
Big John jinxed Federer calling him an RG legend.

Corey Feldman
02-11-2012, 04:09 PM
Federer really wasn't born for Davis Cup it seems. :lol:wasn't born in the right country would be more accurate

cutesteve22
02-11-2012, 04:33 PM
well. this might be the most embarrassing loss in Federer's career. Lost to all serve mug on CLAY... such a disgrace.

EddieNero
02-11-2012, 04:37 PM
well. this might be the most embarrassing loss in Federer's career. Lost to all serve mug on CLAY... such a disgrace.

Losing to Nadal at Wimbledon was more embarrassing by a mile.

star
02-11-2012, 04:37 PM
wasn't born in the right country would be more accurate

So you think Carl Uwe-Steeb was a stronger Davis Cup teammate than Wawarinka?

Becker won twice against against power house Sweden who fielded Wilander, Edberg and Anders Jarryd. Becker’s teammates were Eric Jalen and Carl-Uwe Steeb..

Before that in 1985, Germany reached the final against Sweden and Becker had as his teammates Michael Westphal and Andreas Mauer.


It was extremely hard on Becker and probably detracted from his singles results, and Becker opted out of DC for a couple of years to pursue his goal of becoming the top ranked player. I don’t say that Fed needs to be a DC warrior, but I think if he really wanted to, he could have carried Switzerland to at least a DC final — especially in the years 2003 − 2007.

tangerine_dream
02-11-2012, 09:39 PM
It really makes me wonder how Federer, the last man to play such graceful tennis, has so many haters. You aren't really a fan of tennis if you hate his game.

Fans like you with their noses in the air are one reason why Federer has haters.

samanosuke
02-11-2012, 09:44 PM
Fans like you with their noses in the air are one reason why Federer has haters.

you are supporting the players which fans no matter how deluded and annoying they are can't be the main reason of hatred

moon language
02-12-2012, 02:29 AM
From what I saw it looked like the bounce was high on that court. I don't understand why they would pick a high bouncing court given what can happen with Federer's backhand. I suppose they figured the bounce wouldn't matter given the US players' styles, but it still seems like a bad move. I would think they would go for the lowest bouncing court possible so that Federer can hit all his backhands in the strike zone, in which case he's still nearly unbeatable.

star
02-12-2012, 04:02 AM
From what I saw it looked like the bounce was high on that court. I don't understand why they would pick a high bouncing court given what can happen with Federer's backhand. I suppose they figured the bounce wouldn't matter given the US players' styles, but it still seems like a bad move. I would think they would go for the lowest bouncing court possible so that Federer can hit all his backhands in the strike zone, in which case he's still nearly unbeatable.

The U.S. commenters were saying the court was so bad with poor bounces that it gave the U.S. an advantage. I’m not sure how that works exactly. :p Supposedly, this is something Mardy also noted.

I think one of the reasons for the high bounce is also the altitude, although not particularly high, it’s 2,000 feet.

cardio
02-12-2012, 07:19 AM
Found little highlight video, it isnt much, few points only

http://youtu.be/2MUl_JHuVqg

About bad bounces. How it works: player who stays on baseline is more vulnerable to bad bounces. Player, who comes to the net on first opportunity, volleys a lot and serves from the tree has advantage. My guess is Isner and Fish are players, who are eager to come to the net, even on clay. And you can play well on clay without grinding 30 stroke rallies on baseline. Edberg and Mac were in RG final with S&V and it was dead slow, super high bounce "old" clay...

MrEleganza
02-12-2012, 10:10 AM
The court undoubtedly helped Isner. But that said, did anyone think it would matter beforehand? Federer may not underestimate any opponent, but that doesn't mean Swiss DC organizers don't. I picked SUI to win this tie 4-1. If I would've posted, pre-match, "The ball bounces really high on this court, do you think this will throw the match to Isner?" I don't think anyone could've taken the question seriously, let alone agree that it would.

masterclass
02-12-2012, 12:25 PM
The court undoubtedly helped Isner. But that said, did anyone think it would matter beforehand? Federer may not underestimate any opponent, but that doesn't mean Swiss DC organizers don't. I picked SUI to win this tie 4-1. If I would've posted, pre-match, "The ball bounces really high on this court, do you think this will throw the match to Isner?" I don't think anyone could've taken the question seriously, let alone agree that it would.

To a biased fan or less discerning observer, probably not. They usually look at the overall and/or head to head record.
But to an unbiased learned observer that weighs all factors, the conditions are a serious factor.
Due to his height, Mr. Isner slaps high bouncing balls without hesitation and Mr. Federer has consistently struggled.
The outcome? "It's the obvious, really".
What is simply amazing is that Swiss Tennis didn't alter the court to be better suited to their #1 player.
I'm sure this is one of the questions that will be scrutinized...

I'll be very interested on how this result improves Mr. Isner's confidence and results.
Big Davis Cup wins have been a spring board in improving many careers.
I see him as the only American threat at a major this year. But he needs a good draw and some luck to have a chance.

Respectfully,
masterclass

Vida
02-12-2012, 12:39 PM
havent watched this but for what its worth I can recall isner djoko DC match from few years back in belgrade, on bad clay court. granted it was a pre-monster version of djoko but never the less, isner almost won that one and it didnt seem clay disfavoured him at all, but it rather helped his otherwise poor return game.

peRfect-Tennis
02-12-2012, 01:31 PM
Bad bounce or no bad bounce Fed shouldn't be losing to Isner! But it's Davis Cup - who cares!

Sunset of Age
02-12-2012, 01:57 PM
Bad bounce or no bad bounce Fed shouldn't be losing to Isner!

The days that Fed used to easily kick any opponent (bar Nadal) to Kingdom Come are behind him. And a guy who even managed to push Nadal to five sets on a likewise surface surely isn't a 'mug'. :shrug:
I might get some shtick for saying this but I cannot help but feel that the Swiss team might well have underestimated their opponents for a bit. Not just Fed against Isner, but Wawa against Fish as well, as Fish hadn't been doing well lately at all (his AO performance was :facepalm:)...
It's cost them dearly but well... human behaviour.

But it's Davis Cup - who cares!

I surely don't. Never had anything with DC personally, the only good thing about it is seeing best-of-five matches again.

MuzzahLovah
02-12-2012, 03:54 PM
Slow, high bouncing clay allows Isner lope around to a lot more balls, giving him more chances to get to net. But really, Roger has won Roland Garros and has been to the finals several times, and obviously knows how to play clay. Fed has been collapsing from leads in 5 set matches a lot lately, and not just on clay.