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DC R1: France vs Canada

Stronga23
02-09-2012, 08:36 PM
Tsonga-Pospisil followed by Raonic-Benneteau will be Day 1's matches. I predict a split on day 1 then a very interesting doubles match with Pospisil-Nestor and Llodra-Benneteau. Then on Sunday it will be Tsonga-Raonic and Monfils-Pospisil. I have France 3-2. Give me your thoughts.

I will find Guy Forget and kill him if it comes down to the fifth rubber and he doesnt play Monfils.

LawrenceOfTennis
02-09-2012, 08:39 PM
France 4-1. I'm pretty sure.

MaratandMilos
02-09-2012, 08:43 PM
I'd be a bit surprised if Monfils played on Sunday, but I'm not sure they'll need him to beat Vasek anyway.

I'll say Tsonga over Pospisil, Raonic over Benneteau, Nestor/Pospisil over Llodra/Benneteau, Tsonga over Raonic, Benneteau over Pospisil.

3-2 France. Bet it comes down to the final match, though.

Keech
02-09-2012, 08:59 PM
I'd be a bit surprised if Monfils played on Sunday, but I'm not sure they'll need him to beat Vasek anyway.

I'll say Tsonga over Pospisil, Raonic over Benneteau, Nestor/Pospisil over Llodra/Benneteau, Tsonga over Raonic, Benneteau over Pospisil.

3-2 France. Bet it comes down to the final match, though.

I agree with your predictions about the first 3 matches, but Sunday's matches, I don't know. Either could go either way.

I'm going for 3-2 Canada :worship:

Go Canada Go!

_Chaz
02-09-2012, 09:10 PM
I like both teams here. Both teams have entertaining players who have nice games.
I'll root for the Canadians here simply because the winner will face the winner of USA/Switzerland in the next round (hopefully the Swiss win).
The Swiss would have an away tie in the quarters anyway but it's easier to play Canada away than France, also because the tie is straight after Miami so Roger doesn't need to take a long flight from Miami to the Canadian city (which also means a maximum of 3hrs of jet lag instead of 6 when playing in France). Generally I think playing France away is one of the worst draws you could get this year. Tsonga, Monfils, Llodra, Benneteau and also Simon are great indoor players who could beat anybody (including Roger and of course Wawrinka) on their day.

But I'm going for a 3-2 for France here.

Stronga23
02-09-2012, 09:15 PM
I like both teams here. Both teams have entertaining players who have nice games.
I'll root for the Canadians here simply because the winner will face the winner of USA/Switzerland in the next round (hopefully the Swiss win).
The Swiss would have an away tie in the quarters anyway but it's easier to play Canada away than France, also because the tie is straight after Miami so Roger doesn't need to take a long flight from Miami to the Canadian city (which also means a maximum of 3hrs of jet lag instead of 6 when playing in France). Generally I think playing France away is one of the worst draws you could get this year. Tsonga, Monfils, Llodra, Benneteau and also Simon are great indoor players who could beat anybody (including Roger and of course Wawrinka) on their day.

But I'm going for a 3-2 for France here.

I think Roger and Stan would enjoy playing in France because its relatively close to where they live even as you mention the jetlag.

khanazam
02-09-2012, 09:51 PM
if france does actually play bennetau instead of monfils, ill go with france winning 3-2. raonic to beat bennetau and canada to win the doubles.

philosophicalarf
02-10-2012, 02:12 AM
Popsicle was more than a bit underwhelming last week.

Canucks need Raonic x2 and the doubles, surely. Not impossible with Monf out of rubber1, and Tsonga has often struggled mentally playing against giant servers.

Miss Molly
02-10-2012, 02:19 AM
Obviously I want Canada to win but this is going to be really, really tough. I am looking really forward to it, especially to see how Raonic does against Tsonga if the Sunday match means anything.

BroTree123
02-10-2012, 03:08 AM
If it's 2-1 or 1-2 to France, Tsonga will probably clown it away against Raonic and disappoint his own country in an eventual 2-3 or 1-3 loss :(.

Elly
02-10-2012, 03:10 AM
It is not going to be easy. I think it will be 1-1 tomorrow. Good chance for doubles. Then it can go either way on Sunday. Of course, I am hoping Canada to win. No matter what happens, I will be there the whole time to cheer and pull for our team.

Go Canada Go.

BroTree123
02-10-2012, 03:11 AM
It is not going to be easy. I think it will be 1-1 tomorrow. Good chance for doubles. Then it can go either way on Sunday. No matter what happens, I will be there the whole time to cheer and pull for our team.

Don't worry, you guys will win. France is one of the worst mug DC teams ever. And to cap it off, you guys have it on the hometurf at the Thunderbird SC (I've been there before ;)).

Stronga23
02-10-2012, 03:13 AM
Don't worry, you guys will win. France is one of the worst mug DC teams ever.

Monfils wont clown it up though if he gets to play in the final rubber this is the one place along with any tournament in France that he does well in. I mean he is 5-1 in DC rubbers with wins over Nalbandian, Ferrer, and Tipsarevic. I love Jo but he hasnt done much in DC so far.

bassoon
02-10-2012, 03:14 AM
Obviously, I'm cheering for Canada too. Milos has a great chance against Bennetau and can give Tsonga some worries. Pospisil tends to play his best tennis against higher-ranked players, beating Chela and Isner and holding his own against Federer last year. I'd say France is the favourite (and with four likeable, entertaining players) but my fingers are crossed for the Canucks!!

BroTree123
02-10-2012, 03:15 AM
Monfils wont clown it up though if he gets to play in the final rubber this is the one place along with any tournament in France that he does well in. I mean he is 5-1 in DC rubbers with wins over Nalbandian, Ferrer, and Tipsarevic. I love Jo but he hasnt done much in DC so far.

Incredibly frustrating to rely on Monfils and Tsonga to deliver in ANY general circumstances, is all I'm saying :(:(.

Stronga23
02-10-2012, 03:18 AM
Incredibly frustrating to rely on Monfils and Tsonga to deliver in ANY general circumstances, is all I'm saying :(:(.

No shit :o. So fucking annoying when they lose to mugs like Kukushkin and Nishikori is a good player but Jo in no way shape or form should lose to him in five sets. I broke everything in my house when Monfils lost to Ferrero at the USO after he pushed Djokovic in Cincy.

BroTree123
02-10-2012, 03:20 AM
No shit :o. So fucking annoying when they lose to mugs like Kukushkin and Nishikori is a good player but Jo in no way shape or form should lose to him in five sets. I broke everything in my house when Monfils lost to Ferrero at the USO after he pushed Djokovic in Cincy.

Yep, tell me about those losses :o. Sometimes I'd like to blurt out that -- You can pretty much bet a million bucks on Raonic beating Tsonga, and I'd be stupid not to :o.

And Monfils...in general...is just :o.

Elly
02-10-2012, 03:21 AM
Kei beat J-W at AO ... it gives me hope.

BroTree123
02-10-2012, 03:23 AM
Kei beat J-W at AO ... it gives me hope.

You should bet a million bucks on Raonic defeating Tsonga, should it come to that match. It's a wise choice buddy.

mark73
02-10-2012, 04:05 PM
Day one will be split 1-1. Day two canada should win the doubles. On day three canada has a good chance of winning one of the two matches. On a fast court Raonic might beat Tsonga and/or popsicle might beat benneteau.

Canada 3-2 in my opinion.

romismak
02-10-2012, 05:34 PM
This will be close - 3-2 for either team, Jo is expected to win both matches, but am not so sure, Milos if serving good is tough opponent and Tsonga´s record against good servers isn´t good. Doubles i am not sure who will win, Pospisil is i think good player with potential and won´t be surprised if he beat Bennetaou, but also Tsonga can win both singles and FRA doubles and they advance so we will see but really am hoping this will be best tie from all.

simplet
02-10-2012, 05:43 PM
If it comes to the last day Monfils will play. And even with Monfils being Monfils there's no way in hell he'll lose to Pospisil.

Horatio Caine
02-10-2012, 09:17 PM
France should win both singles rubbers against Pospisil, but they are guaranteed nothing more after that...so it is possible to see Canada win 3-2 imo.

However, I would be expecting a France win.

They have an edge in the doubles - Benneteau and Llodra are a solid team, and whilst Nestor and Dancevic are good players individually, there is no guarantee that they will play well enough together. Dancevic, in particular, can be erratic.

Tsonga vs. Raonic would be very difficult to predict.

Personally, I think that Forget made a good decision to play Benneteau against Raonic on Friday. I can definitely see an 'upset' in that one - Benny isn't a great big match player, but if he can compose himself well enough then he can ask a lot of questions of Raonic...gets plenty of balls back, and mixes up his game nicely.

156mphserve
02-10-2012, 09:51 PM
I think that the only majorly expected result here is a Tsonga win over Pospisil.

Benneteau beat Milos in Paris, though Milos was still returning for injury. So while Milos is a favorite there, Benneteau can win it.

The Doubles is probably 50/50. Nestor is a top doubles player, but obviously he doesn't play with Vasek often. Llodra ia also a top player, but doesn't play with benneteau often. It'll be tight.

Tsonga will be favoured against Milos but Milos will have the home crowd and if he plays well can make that very close.

If the final rubber is necessary it will be way closer than most expect imo. Vasek usually plays better when he's playing higher ranked players. Sela in davis Cup, Chela in the rogers cup, and Isner in I think Tokyo. if Benneteau plays he will probably be favoured, but both will be coming off of playing on Friday and Saturday so will be tired. Vasek is the home town player so that will help him. If Monfils plays, who knows how he's feeling, if his injury will be ok. If it comes down to the 5th rubber, that will be a very intense match no matter what the end result it.

I feel much more confident now than I did last year when the draw came out. 4 of the matches will be close, we need to win 3 of them. It will be tough, but not as hard as i thought it would be.

I think the results will probably be.

Tsonga over Pospisil in 3
Raonic over Benneteau in 4
Benneteau/Llodra over Nestor/Pospisil in 5
Raonic over Tsonga in 4
Monfils over Pospisil in 4

LawrenceOfTennis
02-10-2012, 09:56 PM
I think that the only majorly expected result here is a Tsonga win over Pospisil.

Benneteau beat Milos in Paris, though Milos was still returning for injury. So while Milos is a favorite there, Benneteau can win it.

The Doubles is probably 50/50. Nestor is a top doubles player, but obviously he doesn't play with Vasek often. Llodra ia also a top player, but doesn't play with benneteau often. It'll be tight.

Tsonga will be favoured against Milos but Milos will have the home crowd and if he plays well can make that very close.

If the final rubber is necessary it will be way closer than most expect imo. Vasek usually plays better when he's playing higher ranked players. Sela in davis Cup, Chela in the rogers cup, and Isner in I think Tokyo. if Benneteau plays he will probably be favoured, but both will be coming off of playing on Friday and Saturday so will be tired. Vasek is the home town player so that will help him. If Monfils plays, who knows how he's feeling, if his injury will be ok. If it comes down to the 5th rubber, that will be a very intense match no matter what the end result it.

I feel much more confident now than I did last year when the draw came out. 4 of the matches will be close, we need to win 3 of them. It will be tough, but not as hard as i thought it would be.

I think the results will probably be.

Tsonga over Pospisil in 3
Raonic over Benneteau in 4
Benneteau/Llodra over Nestor/Pospisil in 5
Raonic over Tsonga in 4
Monfils over Pospisil in 4

Painful match because I like both players but Milos is not beating Tsonga.

Stronga23
02-10-2012, 09:57 PM
Gael will come in to save the day in the fifth rubber :worship:

156mphserve
02-10-2012, 09:58 PM
Most probably didn't expect Nishikori to beat Tsonga either:p

Tsonga will probably win but I don't like to pick all expected results:)

LawrenceOfTennis
02-10-2012, 09:59 PM
Understandable. Either way, win-win situation for me and neutral watchers.

Smoke944
02-10-2012, 10:00 PM
Tsonga's returning will give Raonic a great chance.

LawrenceOfTennis
02-10-2012, 10:03 PM
Raonic will hold all set long no doubt. TBs will decide. Expecting 4 or 5 sets to be honest. Raonic cannot beat Tsonga from the baseline though. He can hurt Milos' backhand side pretty much.

bassoon
02-10-2012, 10:22 PM
Any live streaming? I don't have Rogers Sportsnet!!!!!!!!!!!

Keech
02-11-2012, 09:19 PM
it will be Nestor/Raonic v Llodra/Benneteau

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Stronga23
02-11-2012, 09:24 PM
it will be Nestor/Raonic v Llodra/Benneteau

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Any news on Monfils for tomorrow?

Keech
02-11-2012, 09:30 PM
they have until an hour before each match to announce the players :)

romismak
02-12-2012, 12:25 AM
Why the hell they decided that Milos will play, FRA doubles team would be favorite against any possible CAN doubles team, Nestor is great, but doubles is about cooperation and how well you can play with your partner and Bennetou-Llodra are just like Stepanek-Berdych, they didn´t play whole year together but if you put them together in DC they have chemistry and will win that rubber, now CAN will have tired Raonic against Tsonga and it won´ t be easy match for sure, Jo is no Bennetou in singles, big serve by himself, huge agressive groundstrokes and confidence too... Raonic to play doubles could end to be very bad decision tommorow. At this point FRA is leading in doubles 2-0, so either it will be 2-1 tie for FRA with possible tired Raonic against Tsonga or if they turned this doubles in 5 sets, it will be tired Raonic against fresh motivated Jo who will beat him, with Monfils playing 5th rubber most likely very bad decision to play Milos in doubles...

MaratandMilos
02-12-2012, 12:30 AM
If they were going to lose the doubles anyway, as you say, then it really doesn't matter who they put in there. A Milos win over Tsonga would only give them two points and Monfils will clearly beat Pospisil if it even comes down to it.

The bottomline is that they needed to win the doubles to have any realistic shot at winning the tie.