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Will Murray ever reach a Grand Slam final again?

out_grinder
02-04-2012, 10:54 AM
I think right now Murray's role in the sport of tennis is to tire out whoever he's playing for the final by giving his opponent an epic semifinal which Murray will always lose.

Not just in Grand Slams, but in Masters as well. Epic encounters at the 2011 Rome against Djokovic, 2010 WTF against Nadal, and the 2012 Australian Open against Djokovic all spring to mind. Murray universally loses these epic matches against top 3 opponents and makes those opponents tired for the final (though Djokovic has proven that even fatigued he can beat Nadal).

In Masters the situation is different because it's best of 3.

But in Grand Slams, I just can't see Murray ever reaching a final again. He may have some tight semifinals, but I think he will lose every single one. In the majority of cases his opponent will go on to lose in the final.

What do you think?

decrepitude
02-04-2012, 11:01 AM
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Certinfy
02-04-2012, 11:11 AM
Yes.

adam10
02-04-2012, 11:28 AM
I hope not.

stanch
02-04-2012, 12:11 PM
Gee, of course he will.

Clay Death
02-04-2012, 02:05 PM
the great highlander is going to make it in the big leagues. sooner or later he will get his slam. it will be on hard courts.

he will just have to wait until nadal`s and nole`s levels drop. there is not other way. and Fed needs to be out of his way also.

rinnegan
02-04-2012, 02:43 PM
Yes he will.

MuzzahLovah
02-04-2012, 02:45 PM
This guy is such a troll. He made a final last year, and has been in competitive semis since- why on earth couldn't he make another final?

syc23
02-04-2012, 04:17 PM
I think right now Murray's role in the sport of tennis is to tire out whoever he's playing for the final by giving his opponent an epic semifinal which Murray will always lose.

Not just in Grand Slams, but in Masters as well. Epic encounters at the 2011 Rome against Djokovic, 2010 WTF against Nadal, and the 2012 Australian Open against Djokovic all spring to mind. Murray universally loses these epic matches against top 3 opponents and makes those opponents tired for the final (though Djokovic has proven that even fatigued he can beat Nadal).

In Masters the situation is different because it's best of 3.

But in Grand Slams, I just can't see Murray ever reaching a final again. He may have some tight semifinals, but I think he will lose every single one. In the majority of cases his opponent will go on to lose in the final.

What do you think?

He's got more chance to reach another slam final than you ever will you muppet.

:rolleyes:

MIMIC
02-04-2012, 04:27 PM
Sure.

Horatio Caine
02-04-2012, 04:50 PM
He will more than likely reach Slam final(s) again.

As long as he can continue to challenge for the SF, he will be giving himself an excellent chance. Nadal and Djokovic are currently dominating, but one/both of them will blink at some point. Federer is still capable of capitalising, but obviously time isn't on his side anymore.

If Murray continues to maintain a superior level of physical fitness, and keeps his game running as smoothly as possible, he will earn enough chances over the next couple of years.

xdrewitdajx
02-04-2012, 05:18 PM
if he stays healthy there's absolutely no reason why he shouldn't. He was very, very close to beating Djokovic a tthe AO (though to be honest I think he would have lost to Nadal in the final)

mooncreek
02-04-2012, 05:25 PM
Keep in mind what happened to get Murray to those two AO finals - Nadal was injured in their match in 2010 then faced Cilic in the semis, then Rafa had an injury-affected loss to Ferrer the round before in 2011. While it seems that Rafa and Novak get to the semis every major, at least with Rafa it's not a given in the hard court majors.

Andy's odds of getting to another final are definitely better than anyone ranked lower than him.

Eddy DoubleD
02-04-2012, 05:29 PM
He will, but he won't win one...

Clydey
02-04-2012, 05:30 PM
Keep in mind what happened to get Murray to those two AO finals - Nadal was injured in their match in 2010 then faced Cilic in the semis, then Rafa had an injury-affected loss to Ferrer the round before in 2011. While it seems that Rafa and Novak get to the semis every major, at least with Rafa it's not a given in the hard court majors.

Andy's odds of getting to another final are definitely better than anyone ranked lower than him.

Why do people insist on rewriting history? Nadal was already 2 sets down when he got injured. He was on course to be straight-setted when the injury occurred.

And as far as 2011 goes, Murray has beaten Nadal at HC majors before, so it's silly to assume that Nadal's injuries are the only thing getting Murray to these finals.

ballbasher101
02-04-2012, 05:48 PM
Muzza is ready. Mark my words he will reach a final this year at SW19 or the US open.

Mateya
02-04-2012, 05:53 PM
http://www4.slikomat.com/11/0204/mcg-gurn.gif (http://www.Slikomat.com/slika/5167999.htm)

Nonsense thread.
I don't see a reason why he wouldn't. And also win a slam which he deserves by now. Yes, Djoko-Nadal-Fed are on his way this year but you have to take a "long view" in tennis - just like in life. :)

Jimnik
02-04-2012, 07:08 PM
This will be a fun bump in two years time.

Sauletekis
02-04-2012, 10:55 PM
Of course he will! Stupid thread... The probability of him reaching a slam final, it's the same of him don't win a GS ever in his life. About 99,9%

BroTree123
02-04-2012, 11:01 PM
Pretty bad if he doesn't :facepalm:.

tektonac
02-04-2012, 11:25 PM
actually murray had a better result last year (AO) than this one with lendl in his box.

Sauletekis
02-04-2012, 11:37 PM
actually murray had a better result last year (AO) than this one with lendl in his box.

And to be honest he had a joke draw until the SF. It was almost impossible for him not to get to semis, with his opponents quality.

leng jai
02-04-2012, 11:39 PM
One of the most pathetic draws ever really. He had a huge chance to take out Nole (and should have) so really it wasn't a great tournament by any means.

LawrenceOfTennis
02-05-2012, 10:19 AM
I'm sure he will. He is the 5th or 4th best player at the moment, just won't be enough to win a final.

buzz
02-05-2012, 10:45 AM
He has four chances a year! Played a good AO, proved he is still top4! I would not bet against it.

henke007
02-05-2012, 10:57 AM
Yes, he will lose atleast 2 more AO and one US OPEN..

arm
02-05-2012, 12:16 PM
Of course he will.

If he doesn't, then who will, besides the top3? :facepalm:

leng jai
02-05-2012, 12:18 PM
Of course he will.

If he doesn't, then who will, besides the top3? :facepalm:

Hass

Nole Rules
02-05-2012, 12:43 PM
Hass

Who is Hass?

Slice Winner
02-05-2012, 12:59 PM
Who is Hass?

Going by the poster, logic would suggest it's a typographical error which occurred during the typing of Haase(, Robin - the Dutch tennis player).

out_grinder
02-05-2012, 02:12 PM
Of course he will.

If he doesn't, then who will, besides the top3? :facepalm:

errr, nobody?

What's wrong with only the top 3 in slam finals?

arm
02-05-2012, 02:33 PM
errr, nobody?

What's wrong with only the top 3 in slam finals?

Even I think that would be boring.

arm
02-05-2012, 02:34 PM
Hass

Of course, how could I forget him. :hug:

arm
02-05-2012, 02:35 PM
Who is Hass?

Going by the poster, logic would suggest it's a typographical error which occurred during the typing of Haase(, Robin - the Dutch tennis player).

He means Haas, and the error is not purpose. :lol:

Sapeod
02-05-2012, 02:43 PM
I'm sure he will. He is the 5th or 4th best player at the moment, just won't be enough to win a final.
5th? Who is the player infront of him? Let me guess. Del Potro, right? :superlol: Murray isn't anything below being the 4th best player in the world.

And this thread is a joke. Of course he'll reach more slam finals.

Johnny Groove
02-05-2012, 02:44 PM
5th? Who is the player infront of him? Let me guess. Del Potro, right? :superlol: Murray isn't anything below being the 4th best player in the world.

And this thread is a joke. Of course he'll reach more slam finals.

Delpo- 1 slam
Murray- 0 slams

:shrug:

Sapeod
02-05-2012, 02:49 PM
Delpo- 1 slam
Murray- 0 slams

:shrug:
Current rankings:

Murray - #4
Del Potro - #10

The last time I checked, the rankings are over 52 weeks and believe it or not, Murray is WAY above Del Potro at the moment, by quite some margin. Anyway, despite the slam, Murray is still above Del Potro.

BroTree123
02-05-2012, 02:50 PM
Current rankings:

Murray - #4
Del Potro - #10

The last time I checked, the rankings are over 52 weeks and believe it or not, Murray is WAY above Del Potro at the moment, by quite some margin. Anyway, despite the slam, Murray is still above Del Potro.

I love you man :hug:.

Nirjhor
02-05-2012, 03:08 PM
Yes, he will. But will he win the final? I don't think so.

rutinos harcos
02-05-2012, 05:03 PM
Yes,he will,more than once.He'too good not to do that.

rutinos harcos
02-05-2012, 05:06 PM
Yes, he will lose atleast 2 more AO and one US OPEN..

That sounds about right.But,he might surprise us all and win 1 or 2 of them.

rocketassist
02-05-2012, 06:10 PM
Del Potro is the Gaudio to Murray's Nalbandian.

Flying Fox
02-05-2012, 10:00 PM
He will, and eventually he'll win one too.

HuaTuo
02-06-2012, 02:59 AM
no by heart but yes by head

Captain Piranha
02-06-2012, 06:30 AM
Yes! He's reaching semi's comfortably just now, other than maybe the French Open, I can see 3 other semi's this year alone. Chances are a final or two beckon before year's end.

An elusive GS title? We'll see :)

grishotarian
02-06-2012, 06:38 AM
Hopefully not.

zcess81
02-06-2012, 09:06 AM
Nothing is 100%, but I believe he will...will he win it? Well, let me put it this way...if he doesn't, that's the end of the line for Murray as far as winning a grand slam goes. He won't be able to handle another grand slam final loss imo.

Shinoj
02-06-2012, 12:32 PM
http://liebowitzday.com/images/yeshecan.jpg

Johnbert
02-06-2012, 12:54 PM
of course he will, no doubt.

MIMIC
02-06-2012, 12:59 PM
Going by the poster, logic would suggest it's a typographical error which occurred during the typing of Haase(, Robin - the Dutch tennis player).

:lol:

nadalwon2012
02-06-2012, 02:51 PM
I can see why there is a question mark over Murray reaching slam finals. Nadal is getting more consistent at the hardcourt slams. He's automatic at the US Open now. And he was extremely impressive this year at the AO. With Nadal controlling one half, and Djok controlling the other, Murray has very little to work with. Recently though, he's looked more impressive vs Djok than he's looked vs Nadal. In 2011, Nadal beat Murray at the US Open for the first time. The gap seems to be widening between Nadal-Murray. The gap seems to be closing between Djok-Murray.

out_grinder
02-06-2012, 04:36 PM
I can see why there is a question mark over Murray reaching slam finals. Nadal is getting more consistent at the hardcourt slams. He's automatic at the US Open now. And he was extremely impressive this year at the AO. With Nadal controlling one half, and Djok controlling the other, Murray has very little to work with. Recently though, he's looked more impressive vs Djok than he's looked vs Nadal. In 2011, Nadal beat Murray at the US Open for the first time. The gap seems to be widening between Nadal-Murray. The gap seems to be closing between Djok-Murray.

You're right that the gap is widening between Nadal and Murray, but I also think it is widening between Djokovic and Murray.

With Nadal and Djokovic totally a lock for every grandslam semifinal at the very least, there is no way either of them are letting Murray through to the final at any slam, therefore I think Murray will never reach another slam final, let alone win a slam.

Nole Rules
02-06-2012, 04:41 PM
Yes, he will.

Clay Death
02-06-2012, 04:47 PM
affirmative. either this year or next he may find himself in a final of a slam on hard courts.

Captain Piranha
02-06-2012, 07:06 PM
You're right that the gap is widening between Nadal and Murray, but I also think it is widening between Djokovic and Murray.

With Nadal and Djokovic totally a lock for every grandslam semifinal at the very least, there is no way either of them are letting Murray through to the final at any slam, therefore I think Murray will never reach another slam final, let alone win a slam.

That has no logic. Fine, Nadal won at US Open in four so they are 1-1 there, level at Aus Open 1-1 too. Murray beat Nadal from a set down in Tokyo final, Rafa winning FOUR points in final set. So, certainly on hard court it's not too bad. Murray took a set from Nadal on Grass for first time last year too, hell, he even had chances at French Open.

Last year Murray loses to Nole in three in Aus, this year in 5. And has a losing 7-4 Head to Head. It's hardly widening, regardless of you're obvious Murray distaste.

nadalwon2012
02-08-2012, 02:55 AM
That has no logic. Fine, Nadal won at US Open in four so they are 1-1 there, level at Aus Open 1-1 too. Murray beat Nadal from a set down in Tokyo final, Rafa winning FOUR points in final set. So, certainly on hard court it's not too bad. Murray took a set from Nadal on Grass for first time last year too, hell, he even had chances at French Open.

Last year Murray loses to Nole in three in Aus, this year in 5. And has a losing 7-4 Head to Head. It's hardly widening, regardless of you're obvious Murray distaste.

Yeah but does it mean anything? Nishikori beat Djok 6-0 in the 3rd set at Basel, and I think he allowed even less than 4 points. Nadal/Djok were shot from that US Open final I think, or unmotivated (except for when Nadal played Davis Cup final of course).