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Would you like WTF London and Paris-Bercy to be as fast as Montpellier?

romismak
02-04-2012, 12:29 AM
What do you think about this? To have last 2 indoor events- really big events generally to have similar surface speed-pace like Montpellier, it is looking pretty good, Paris was fast in 2010 and last year it was again bad... and London is simply slow indoor since they got there after switched with Shanghai. 2 biggest indoor events i think should play more like indoor events, with more winners, serve advantage and it will be entertaining comparing to mostly outdoor baseline marathon matches

Certinfy
02-04-2012, 11:56 AM
Yes. Court speed this week has been awesome, it's what indoors tennis should be all about.

TennisOnWood
02-04-2012, 12:02 PM
True Indoor tennis is dead

Shirogane
02-04-2012, 12:04 PM
Even the US Open series should be that quick.

BodyServe
02-04-2012, 12:06 PM
Even the US Open series should be that quick.

Cincy and Washington are as quick, but last year US Open was a joke.

I want Paris as fast as it was in 2010.

nalbyfan
02-04-2012, 01:49 PM
If Montpellier is so "fast", so why do we have Simon the pusher vs clown Monfils in semi ??? And why Llodra decided not to play ? Montpellier is not faster than another indoor event

Stronga23
02-04-2012, 01:51 PM
It should be last year's Paris tournament cost my guys the title.

Agrajag
02-04-2012, 01:54 PM
If Montpellier is so "fast", so why do we have Simon the pusher vs clown Monfils in semi ??? And why Llodra decided not to play ? Montpellier is not faster than another indoor event

Simon has faced Cipolla and Rufin. Monfils has a huge serve, and can play indoor. He made the finals in Bercy 2010. Llodra made AO and DC his priorities.

Montpellier looks to me to be at least top 5 in surface speed compared to last season.

Mjau!
02-04-2012, 03:29 PM
Everything post RG should be fast. That would be a well-balanced season.

KaiserT
02-04-2012, 03:42 PM
WTF's should have a relatively neutral court speed.

philosophicalarf
02-04-2012, 03:46 PM
It's actually the same Greenset as WTF, just a little quicker version. Major difference is in the balls.

Probably is one of the quickest indoors now though. Rotterdam last year was quicker, but they're going to slow it. Memphis maybe?

mike s.
02-04-2012, 03:47 PM
If Montpellier is so "fast", so why do we have Simon the pusher vs clown Monfils in semi ??? And why Llodra decided not to play ? Montpellier is not faster than another indoor event

I sometimes wonder if the people on GM have ever watched tennis. Simon is just as good on faster surfaces as he is on slow surfaces because he doesn't have to generate pace and he played Rufin and Cipolla. What the hell are you talking about?

bouncer7
02-05-2012, 01:10 AM
If Montpellier is so "fast", so why do we have Simon the pusher vs clown Monfils in semi ??? And why Llodra decided not to play ? Montpellier is not faster than another indoor event

fedtards are just evolving in courttards

Looner
02-05-2012, 01:47 AM
^^^
At least Fedtards are evolving. Conversely, your brain seems to be heading in the other direction.

Hian-GOAT
02-05-2012, 10:44 AM
Hell, no. Tennis isn't a battle of good servers. We could even see Karlovic winning a Master, and this cannot be accepted.
I like surfaces in this way. Maybe a little quicker, but not à la Montpellier.

Chirag
02-05-2012, 12:49 PM
a big yes to this

Chirag
02-05-2012, 12:51 PM
Hell, no. Tennis isn't a battle of good servers. We could even see Karlovic winning a Master, and this cannot be accepted.
I like surfaces in this way. Maybe a little quicker, but not à la Montpellier.

fast surface doesnt equate to Aces winning :facepalm: Fast surface means rallies last about 2-4 strokes and we see good attacking tennis with aggressive forehands and backhands as well as a few decent volleys :)

cutesteve22
02-05-2012, 04:35 PM
I want faster indoors court

Chase Visa
02-06-2012, 03:00 AM
WTF should be neutral, agree on Bercy though.

Pirata.
02-06-2012, 03:10 AM
Hell, no. Tennis isn't a battle of good servers. We could even see Karlovic winning a Master, and this cannot be accepted.

Yeah, 'cos Karlovic is winning the regular 250 indoor fast tournaments left and right :rolleyes:

rocketassist
02-06-2012, 03:12 AM
Hell, no. Tennis isn't a battle of good servers. We could even see Karlovic winning a Master, and this cannot be accepted.
I like surfaces in this way. Maybe a little quicker, but not à la Montpellier.

It's ALWAYS WTA tards who spout this garbage.

Why can't indoors be lightning fast? Gives those net rushers and huge servers the chance to obtain ranking points?

The serve is the hardest shot to master. Why can't it be rewarded in some quarters the same way a big forehand or, in the 2012 edition of tennis, rabbit-like scrambling can reward players?

r3d_d3v1l_
02-06-2012, 03:35 AM
gwJjNpoHJgg

OH GOD! CAN´T TAKE THIS ACE FEST NO MORE!

duong
02-06-2012, 10:40 AM
Yes but it will not happen.

One day people here should understand that it's the players who decide, our voice doesn't count.

They asked the ATP to ask Berdy director to slow down Bercy : they got it (Bercy director told it).

And now they want to play WTF right after the US Open and then cancel all MS1000 and ATP500 tournaments after then.

Bercy is a tournament which will die within a few years.

Besides here is what I heard about Australian Open final last week :

- people who played tennis a lot didn't like it

- people who were just occasional TV viewers told me "have you seen the final ? it was gorgeous !"

... and the latter ones are more numerous :shrug:

duong
02-06-2012, 10:47 AM
And why Llodra decided not to play ?

because Davis cup is in Vancouver with a high jetlag from France : he asked other Davis cup players not to go to Montpellier as well.

Tsonga and Benneteau didn't go as well.

philosophicalarf
02-06-2012, 01:07 PM
Hell, no. Tennis isn't a battle of good servers. We could even see Karlovic winning a Master, and this cannot be accepted.

You can have courts that play reaosnably quickly in the rally without serve domination - the bounce is the key. It's much more important to rally speed than serve.

Action Jackson
02-06-2012, 01:09 PM
You can have courts that play reaosnably quickly in the rally without serve domination - the bounce is the key. It's much more important to rally speed than serve.

Get more sense talking to a wall.

henke007
02-06-2012, 01:56 PM
I didn't think montpellier was very fast. Chennai was fast though and Bercy in 2010.. R.I.P those surfaces in any big tourney.. Even the US OPEN:o

Shirogane
02-06-2012, 03:08 PM
Besides here is what I heard about Australian Open final last week :

- people who played tennis a lot didn't like it

- people who were just occasional TV viewers told me "have you seen the final ? it was gorgeous !"

... and the latter ones are more numerous :shrug:Logique.

yesh222
02-06-2012, 06:24 PM
Very yes.

GSMnadal
02-06-2012, 08:32 PM
gwJjNpoHJgg

OH GOD! CAN´T TAKE THIS ACE FEST NO MORE!

2012 Federer would straight set this one

HKz
02-07-2012, 12:00 AM
If Montpellier is so "fast", so why do we have Simon the pusher vs clown Monfils in semi ??? And why Llodra decided not to play ? Montpellier is not faster than another indoor event

Counter punchers do well on fast surfaces.. They don't need to do much except get the ball back and their opponent struggle to deal with the speed of the court.