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Is Djokovic's sportsmanship best in the top 4?

Roger the Dodger
01-29-2012, 05:03 PM
He has amended his past ways. The player we watched on court today does not cheat, doesn't have arrogance, shows forbearance and is courteous whether he wins or loses.

Even after Nadal's cheap comments on Djokovic before the match, he did not retaliate. That endorses his class as a sportsperson. He neither shouts at the umpire like Nadal or argue endlessly like Federer or Roddick - just moves on with the next point if his point is not heard. He doesn't throw tantrums at his camp and make ugly faces like Murray. Plus he entertains everyone with his clowning.

He is clearly head and shoulders above the rest of the top players in the sportsmanship department.

Attaboy Nole!

hipolymer
01-29-2012, 05:04 PM
On court it's Federer. Off court it's Djokovic/Murray

sicko
01-29-2012, 05:05 PM
well, he sure is head and shoulders above regarding personality... (kinda goes along with sportsmanship)

and personality goes a looooong way...

SERBINATOR
01-29-2012, 05:05 PM
He also applauds Opponents Shots in between matches!

rickcastle
01-29-2012, 05:08 PM
On court it's Federer. Off court it's Djokovic/Murray

Agreed.

Fat Camel
01-29-2012, 05:10 PM
He improved a lot his sportsmanship, i like his smiling, applauding etc., but still Federer's one is the best.

MuzzahLovah
01-29-2012, 05:11 PM
Come now, both Nadal and Nole make a mockery of the rules regarding time between points. Federer allergic to graciousness, especially when it comes to Novak, and can never credit him for a victory.

By process of elimination, Murray is least bad of the top 4 when it comes to both graciousness and adherence to the rules. Especially now with Lendl, he no longer has outbursts at his box, but regardless, that has nothing to do with adherence to the rules or graciousness to one's opponents, which are the elements of sportsmanship.

Hypnotize
01-29-2012, 05:18 PM
I think Djokovic is easily the best of the top 4. I can't believe anyone has voted for Federer who has proved time and again what a bad sport he is. His criticisms of Novak because he dared to save a matchpoint against him at the US Open were beyond ridiculous. Federer is easily the worst sportsman of the 4.

Roger the Dodger
01-29-2012, 05:19 PM
Come now, both Nadal and Nole make a mockery of the rules regarding time between points. Federer allergic to graciousness, especially when it comes to Novak, and can never credit him for a victory.

By process of elimination, Murray is least bad of the top 4 when it comes to both graciousness and adherence to the rules. Especially now with Lendl, he no longer has outbursts at his box, but regardless, that has nothing to do with adherence to the rules or graciousness to one's opponents, which are the elements of sportsmanship.

For obvious reasons. He has half-a-dozen of those cups Andy's playing for. :lol:

One can hardly say he's well behaved.

Secondly, nobody complains about the time Nadal and Djokovic take between points because it has gradually become an unsaid rule that top players won't lose points because of time-violation. Even umpires don't bother telling them. Even Roger has accepted it.

and I'd rather Federer took some extra time to focus between serves (but maybe his is a rhythm based game).

Larry_David
01-29-2012, 05:20 PM
If bouncing the ball an extra ten billion times before serving on big points and faking injuries when losing is good sportsmanship, then yes.

Roger the Dodger
01-29-2012, 05:21 PM
He also applauds Opponents Shots in between matches!

Isn't he the only one who does that in the top ten? Maybe he and Tsonga.

duong
01-29-2012, 05:23 PM
That may well be, anyway it's not Nadal (time letting his opponent wait for return and other things) and it's not Murray (dropshotting injured opponents for instance)

MuzzahLovah
01-29-2012, 05:27 PM
Murray and Djokovic are the most gracious in defeat.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lygqxyYrY91qb2wsio1_500.jpg


But Djokovic, in addition to the time violations, also uses a lot of Nadal's questionable tactics with regards to MTO's.

Arakasi
01-29-2012, 05:28 PM
Djokovic is a very gracious loser, far better than any of the other top guys. So much so that it's actually a little unsettling at times. He almost looks happy after losing e.g. US Open 2010. Ironically, when he wins I find he looks quite sombre (other than the post-match celebrations). Especially when he beats Nadal/Federer.

You can't deny though that he hugely exaggerates his body language. Multiple times in his last three matches this week I was convinced he was physically toast only for him to be running around like a rabbit a little while later. I don't think he was faking; that's just silly. Why would you fake when you're completely in control of a match? But he definitely needs to control his body language. It's not cheating but it's bad play to behave like that. Murray is very guilty of this too. You'd think he has 10 different injuries over the course of a match sometimes.

On court it's Federer. Off court it's Djokovic/Murray

I would agree with this except I don't think you can include Murray yet. Players behave differently when they're winning and when they're losing. Everyone thought Federer was a saint '03-'06 until he started losing more matches. Then his petulant side started to show more. Equally, we can't know how Murray will behave when and if he wins grand slams and becomes top dog. Even with Djokovic we have to see how he starts behaving when he declines. Nadal for example, was Mr Humble on the way up to the #1 ranking but the way back down has shown he can bitch with the best of them.

MuzzahLovah
01-29-2012, 05:29 PM
That may well be, anyway it's not Nadal (time letting his opponent wait for return and other things) and it's not Murray (dropshotting injured opponents for instance)

How is that bad sportsmanship? If the opponent is too injured to play, they should retire- are you saying Nole or Fed doesn't use drop shots when their opponent is injured/ has questionable movement? Did you see Nole play Mahut this tournament?

MuzzahLovah
01-29-2012, 05:34 PM
Djokovic is a very gracious loser, far better than any of the other top guys. So much so that it's actually a little unsettling at times. He almost looks happy after losing e.g. US Open 2010. Ironically, when he wins I find he looks quite sombre (other than the post-match celebrations). Especially when he beats Nadal/Federer.

You can't deny though that he hugely exaggerates his body language. Multiple times in his last three matches this week I was convinced he was physically toast only for him to be running around like a rabbit a little while later. I don't think he was faking; that's just silly. Why would you fake when you're completely in control of a match? But he definitely needs to control his body language. It's not cheating but it's bad play to behave like that. Murray is very guilty of this too. You'd think he has 10 different injuries over the course of a match sometimes.



I would agree with this except I don't think you can include Murray yet. Players behave differently when they're winning and when they're losing. Everyone thought Federer was a saint '03-'06 until he started losing more matches. Then his petulant side started to show more. Equally, we can't know how Murray will behave when and if he wins grand slams and becomes top dog. Even with Djokovic we have to see how he starts behaving when he declines. Nadal for example, was Mr Humble on the way up to the #1 ranking but the way back down has shown he can bitch with the best of them.

I agree- Fed and Nadal were gracious winners on the way up, but on the way down their true colors are showing. Nole has yet to decline, and Murray yet to really dominate.

Mr.Miracle
01-29-2012, 05:35 PM
Come now, both Nadal and Nole make a mockery of the rules regarding time between points. Federer allergic to graciousness, especially when it comes to Novak, and can never credit him for a victory.

By process of elimination, Murray is least bad of the top 4 when it comes to both graciousness and adherence to the rules. Especially now with Lendl, he no longer has outbursts at his box, but regardless, that has nothing to do with adherence to the rules or graciousness to one's opponents, which are the elements of sportsmanship.

" Federer IS allergic to graciousness." You forgot to add the word that would make this sentence a real one, dumb ass. Any more incorrect English you want to grace us with, retard?

And Novak is gracious? Yea, only through process of elimination and time. Nadal has always been the most humble and most ready to call Federer the best in the world. How was Novak acting when he was losing? Like a spoiled brat that acted like he was in pain all the time.

Roger the Dodger
01-29-2012, 05:36 PM
How is that bad sportsmanship? If the opponent is too injured to play, they should retire- are you saying Nole or Fed doesn't use drop shots when there opponent is injured/ has questionable movement? Did you see Nole play Mahut this tournament?

Ditto about Doung's sportsmanship comment on use of dropshots.

By the same account, Nadal's act of making his opponent wait for an eternity before the coin toss while he chews his bar is equally bad sportsmanship.

Roger the Dodger
01-29-2012, 05:38 PM
" Federer IS allergic to graciousness." You forgot to add the word that would make this sentence a real one, dumb ass. Any more incorrect English you want to grace us with, retard?

And Novak is gracious? Yea, only through process of elimination and time. Nadal has always been the most humble and most ready to call Federer the best in the world. How was Novak acting when he was losing? Like a spoiled brat that acted like he was in pain all the time.

That was before. that's exactly what I'm trying to say. Today, Novak, despite of being at the very top openly regards Federer and Nadal as the best players in the world and doesn't include himself. He has a much mature judgment of himself now than he did before.

MuzzahLovah
01-29-2012, 05:39 PM
" Federer IS allergic to graciousness." You forgot to add the word that would make this sentence a real one, dumb ass. Any more incorrect English you want to grace us with, retard?

And Novak is gracious? Yea, only through process of elimination and time. Nadal has always been the most humble and most ready to call Federer the best in the world. How was Novak acting when he was losing? Like a spoiled brat that acted like he was in pain all the time.

You poor, pathetic individual. :wavey:

Mr.Miracle
01-29-2012, 05:39 PM
How is that bad sportsmanship? If the opponent is too injured to play, they should retire- are you saying Nole or Fed doesn't use drop shots when there opponent is injured/ has questionable movement? Did you see Nole play Mahut this tournament?

I think you meant, THEIR, retard. Oh poor, pathetic, Muzzahtard, if you aren't writing something asinine, you're humiliating yourself. But you may genuinely be mentally retarded, I'm starting to think. Is it possible for someone to be this dumb?

This hypocrite tries to point out other people's spelling, while he can't write any better than a ten year old. Man this is too easy and pathetic, ripping this retard apart.

Doesn't even know the difference between "their" and "there". If you are actually mentally handicapped, I apologize, I'm starting to think your stupidity isn't your fault Muzzatard. Don't reply, you're just embarrassing yourself.

MuzzahLovah
01-29-2012, 05:41 PM
I think you meant, THEIR, retard. Oh poor, pathetic, Muzzahtard, if you aren't writing something asinine, you're humiliating yourself. But you may genuinely be mentally retarded, I'm starting to think. Is it possible for someone to be this dumb?

:cool:

NadalPhan
01-29-2012, 05:43 PM
# 1. Murray
# 2. Federer
# 3. Nadal
# 4. Djokovic

Djokovic will start being bitter as well once he starts losing more. I know, I can relate to this.

Mr.Miracle
01-29-2012, 05:47 PM
That was before. that's exactly what I'm trying to say. Today, Novak, despite of being at the very top openly regards Federer and Nadal as the best players in the world and doesn't include himself. He has a much mature judgment of himself now than he did before.

You're correct. But, it's easy to appear gracious when you're winning everything. When Nadal was winning everything, I found him to be the most humble tennis champion I've seen, since Samprass.

Novak has learned from Nadal and Fed, he has realized that he has to be humble, if he wants to be well liked. But I don't think its in his nature like it is in Nadal's. Remember how Novak and his family acted after his first Slam?

Novak would have to be dumber than even our local village idiot, Muzzalovah, to not realise he had to change his behavior. But Nadal was a good boy from day one.

NadalPhan
01-29-2012, 05:47 PM
That was before. that's exactly what I'm trying to say. Today, Novak, despite of being at the very top openly regards Federer and Nadal as the best players in the world and doesn't include himself. He has a much mature judgment of himself now than he did before.

That won't be the case anymore once he starts losing though. It's much easier to show good sportsmanship when at the top.

Does anybody remember how Djokovic used to behave before he started dominating everybody? Now imagine how he'll react when somebody starts beating him regularly.

GSMnadal
01-29-2012, 05:49 PM
No one loses as well as Murray does

r3d_d3v1l_
01-29-2012, 05:49 PM
Djokovic is by far the least gracious in victory and he is great in defeat. Murray also.

NadalPhan
01-29-2012, 05:52 PM
You're correct. But, it's easy to appear gracious when you're winning everything.

Exactly!

And I can personally say this from experience. Been there done that.

Roger the Dodger
01-29-2012, 05:55 PM
You're correct. But, it's easy to appear gracious when you're winning everything. When Nadal was winning everything, I found him to be the most humble tennis champion I've seen, since Samprass.

Novak has learned from Nadal and Fed, he has realized that he has to be humble, if he wants to be well liked. But I don't think its in his nature like it is in Nadal's. Remember how Novak and his family acted after his first Slam?

Novak would have to be dumber than even our local village idiot, Muzzalovah, to not realise he had to change his behavior. But Nadal was a good boy from day one.

That won't be the case anymore once he starts losing though. It's much easier to show good sportsmanship when at the top.

Does anybody remember how Djokovic used to behave before he started dominating everybody? Now imagine how he'll react when somebody starts beating him regularly.


I'll quote both of you together.

Is it just me who actually saw that Novak was trying to become a better sportman even before he ran into that hurricane form of last year's? Since the end of 2008 when he had a bitter spat with Roddick at the USO, all he's done is to try and change himself, and slowly and surely too.

Novak grew a better person and then became a winner. I vividly remember so many instances of him being a good loser, giving hugs whether winning or losing, entertaining the press even after losses well through 2009 and 2010, both fairly ordinary years for him.

Today, in fact, even if he loses, I don't expect him to become the kind of guy he was before, but keep his sportsmanship.

NadalPhan
01-29-2012, 06:03 PM
Hey, I could be wrong really, but I really do think that he'll be bitter the moment someone starts owning him. See Federer and Nadal.

NadalPhan
01-29-2012, 06:04 PM
Though for some inexplicable reason, Federer takes his frustrations out of Djokovic instead of Rafa.

viruzzz
01-29-2012, 06:31 PM
Are you all FUCKIN kidding me?!?!

You don't remember arrogant 2011 Nole vs Monfils?

I won't forgive Nole for that attitude. I'll always be angry with him for that. That is not sportmansship, that's shit. And 2011-onwards Nole doesn't respect players on court.

Sapeod
01-29-2012, 06:41 PM
You mean all the cheating, fake timeouts and arrogancy is the best sportsmanship? Haha, no.

Federer = very honest, but arrogant. Takes digs at some players.
Nadal = cheater.
Djokovic = cheater.
Murray = gets angry at himself, but doesn't do anything bad or say anything bad about anyone.

In general, Murray has the best sportsmanship out of the top 4, which is quite funny considering haters think he's a twat.

Mental Giant
01-29-2012, 06:42 PM
lol who cares about sportsmanship? its kill or be killed out there.

Nixer
01-29-2012, 06:44 PM
I'll go with Murray here.
Djokovic's the worst in terms of sportsmanship out of top-4 IMO. Though closely followed by Rafa

r3d_d3v1l_
01-29-2012, 06:45 PM
You don't remember arrogant 2011 Nole vs Monfils?

The match in Cincinnati? Can you recall what happened?

NadalPhan
01-29-2012, 07:32 PM
Are you all FUCKIN kidding me?!?!

You don't remember arrogant 2011 Nole vs Monfils?

I won't forgive Nole for that attitude. I'll always be angry with him for that. That is not sportmansship, that's shit. And 2011-onwards Nole doesn't respect players on court.

What did he do against Monfils?

LawrenceOfTennis
01-29-2012, 07:34 PM
since when faking belongs to sportsmanship category?
seriously, who the bloody f*ck would believe his faking ever again after this AO? Played 5 hours vs Murray, could hardly breath, then played 6 hours 2 days later.

NadalSharapova
01-29-2012, 07:41 PM
yes joint best with nadal.

Federer is the worst by far

Looner
01-29-2012, 07:45 PM
^^^
If you mean faking, I agree.

Roamed
01-29-2012, 07:48 PM
Thinking about it, it's probably Murray, but being #1 is a much greater test of sportsmanship that he's never have to deal with. People expect you to be more humble in victory and gracious in defeat than when you're lower ranked.

Sunset of Age
01-29-2012, 08:16 PM
Hey, I could be wrong really, but I really do think that he'll be bitter the moment someone starts owning him. See Federer and Nadal.

That's most normal, comman Human Behaviour. ;)

All of the top 4 have their good and their bad showings of sportmanship, I don't think any of them outdoes the others.
Right now it might well be Murray, but don't forget that he hasn't ever experienced the triumphs-and-agonies of the other three - yet.

Jovard
01-29-2012, 08:51 PM
Federer really? :spit: This guy is trashy as hell!
Nole all the way :hearts:

Roger the Dodger
01-30-2012, 07:21 AM
since when faking belongs to sportsmanship category?
seriously, who the bloody f*ck would believe his faking ever again after this AO? Played 5 hours vs Murray, could hardly breath, then played 6 hours 2 days later.

I don't think Novak faked at all in the last two matches. He was evidently tired from his match versus Murray on the fourth set against Nadal in the final, and he fell down twice clearly out of dizziness while Nadal celebrated with jabbing fist pumps. in the end, his will-power carried him through.

scoutreporter
01-30-2012, 07:28 AM
He has amended his past ways. The player we watched on court today does not cheat, doesn't have arrogance, shows forbearance and is courteous whether he wins or loses.

Even after Nadal's cheap comments on Djokovic before the match, he did not retaliate. That endorses his class as a sportsperson. He neither shouts at the umpire like Nadal or argue endlessly like Federer or Roddick - just moves on with the next point if his point is not heard. He doesn't throw tantrums at his camp and make ugly faces like Murray. Plus he entertains everyone with his clowning.

He is clearly head and shoulders above the rest of the top players in the sportsmanship department.

Attaboy Nole!


Can you tell me what Nadals cheap comments about Nole before the match? I genuinely don't know...

tests
01-30-2012, 07:32 AM
Federer is quite gracious on court. Off-court, he sometimes looks like a prick, but he just tells it how it is.

I think nadal is the worst on sportsmanship. He makes stupid faces throughout the match, yells like a maniac, and gives his opponents weird looks. He also regularly yells at the umpire, and cheats to gain an advantage. Did you guys see how nadal looked on the podium after his losses to djokovic in grand slam finals? He can barely look djokovic in the eye.

Nadal is definitely being exposed as having terrible sportsmanship.

On a side note, i don't really think that nadal truly believes federer is the GOAT. Nadal is very clever and uses mental tactics way too often. He always says federer is the best, that nadal stands no chance ETC ETC just to gain that mental edge. Nadal is the biggest fraud in tennis.

scoutreporter
01-30-2012, 07:33 AM
# 1. Murray
# 2. Federer
# 3. Nadal
# 4. Djokovic

Djokovic will start being bitter as well once he starts losing more. I know, I can relate to this.

Any person who have Federer as no1 sportsmanship, that arrogant twat, is a twat of a person themselves, Pathetic... Just look at hes crybaby interview after US open defeat. .Roger: '' Uhmmmm, I don't know, you know, uhmmm, that was a lucky shot. uhmmmm, i don't how he did that, that was so lucky, I should have been the winner, umm, I am the best. I practice for 20 years, I would never do that lucky shot. He is just lucky, i am the best, I am Roger, I have a golden jacket, i am arrogant, '' How the fuck can someone like a person like that.

scoutreporter
01-30-2012, 07:35 AM
[QUOTE=tests;11702687]Federer is quite gracious on court. Off-court, he sometimes looks like a prick, but he just tells it how it is.

I think nadal is the worst on sportsmanship. He makes stupid faces throughout the match, yells like a maniac, and gives his opponents weird looks. He also regularly yells at the umpire, and cheats to gain an advantage. Did you guys see how nadal looked on the podium after his losses to djokovic in grand slam finals? He can barely look djokovic in the eye.

Nadal is definitely being exposed as having terrible sportsmanship.

On a side note, i don't really think that nadal truly believes federer is the GOAT. Nadal is very clever and uses mental tactics way too often. He always says federer is the best, that nadal stands no chance ETC ETC just to gain that mental edge. Nadal is the biggest fraud in tennis.[/QUOT

He is saying that roger is the best because he beats him every time. And if he beats the best every time, in some perspective, that makes him the best, since he is better than the best. Get it:D In other words he is saying that he is the best himself, and he is praising himself:-)

tests
01-30-2012, 07:37 AM
[QUOTE=tests;11702687]Federer is quite gracious on court. Off-court, he sometimes looks like a prick, but he just tells it how it is.

I think nadal is the worst on sportsmanship. He makes stupid faces throughout the match, yells like a maniac, and gives his opponents weird looks. He also regularly yells at the umpire, and cheats to gain an advantage. Did you guys see how nadal looked on the podium after his losses to djokovic in grand slam finals? He can barely look djokovic in the eye.

Nadal is definitely being exposed as having terrible sportsmanship.

On a side note, i don't really think that nadal truly believes federer is the GOAT. Nadal is very clever and uses mental tactics way too often. He always says federer is the best, that nadal stands no chance ETC ETC just to gain that mental edge. Nadal is the biggest fraud in tennis.[/QUOT

He is saying that roger is the best because he beats him every time. And if he beats the best every time, in some perspective, that makes him the best, since he is better than the best. Get it:D In other words he is saying that he is the best himself, and he is praising himself:-)

:eek:

scoutreporter
01-30-2012, 07:39 AM
You mean all the cheating, fake timeouts and arrogancy is the best sportsmanship? Haha, no.

Federer = very honest, but arrogant. Takes digs at some players.
Nadal = cheater.
Djokovic = cheater.
Murray = gets angry at himself, but doesn't do anything bad or say anything bad about anyone.

In general, Murray has the best sportsmanship out of the top 4, which is quite funny considering haters think he's a twat.

You are a twat...

scoutreporter
01-30-2012, 07:41 AM
since when faking belongs to sportsmanship category?
seriously, who the bloody f*ck would believe his faking ever again after this AO? Played 5 hours vs Murray, could hardly breath, then played 6 hours 2 days later.

If you have any braincells, you could maybe imagine that he was tired, and kept fighting despite having difficulties breathing. How is it going with hungarian sports by the way? winning anything? Heard Serbs are also beating you on a regular basis in your only sport, waterpolo, maybe thats why you hate No1e...

tripwires
01-30-2012, 07:51 AM
Any person who have Federer as no1 sportsmanship, that arrogant twat, is a twat of a person themselves, Pathetic... Just look at hes crybaby interview after US open defeat. .Roger: '' Uhmmmm, I don't know, you know, uhmmm, that was a lucky shot. uhmmmm, i don't how he did that, that was so lucky, I should have been the winner, umm, I am the best. I practice for 20 years, I would never do that lucky shot. He is just lucky, i am the best, I am Roger, I have a golden jacket, i am arrogant, '' How the fuck can someone like a person like that.

:bowdown: Best trolling ever.

Roger's on-court sportsmanship is still the best - it's hilarious to me how people disagree with this. He could afford to be less bitter in press conferences after horrible losses but on a whole and in general, he carries himself impeccably on court.

Not too sure about Nole - I like the applauding opponents' shots and losing graciously, but the damn ball-bouncing is ridiculous.

Nadal is undoubtedly the worst. I don't even need to say why.

leng jai
01-30-2012, 07:52 AM
Rafito is unbelievably cute when he is losing though. Like an injured pouting little puppy :sad:

Mystique
01-30-2012, 08:45 AM
On court? Federer. And I dont say this because I like him best. Roger is a guy who is a decent loser and a gracious winner. You dont see him screaming and chest pumping and jumping and rolling when he wins, you dont see him throw a tantrum after he loses. He doesnt pretend to be happy (who the hell can be happy after a loss) and may not be all smiles in defeat but he is usually quiet and NORMAL.
Nadal is a pretty gracious loser most of the time, but sometimes overdoes his on court celebrations too. Not as much as Novak of course (who is ironically a great loser and a rather bad winner)

Off court? Djokovic maybe. I dont think we can talk abt Murray in this convo yet coz he has won nothing of importance. I dont buy Nadal's fake humility and Fed can be an asshole in PCs sometimes.

Time Violation
01-30-2012, 08:58 AM
On court? Federer. And I dont say this because I like him best. Roger is a guy who is a decent loser and a gracious winner. You dont see him screaming and chest pumping and jumping and rolling when he wins, you dont see him throw a tantrum after he loses. He doesnt pretend to be happy (who the hell can be happy after a loss) and may not be all smiles in defeat but he is usually quiet and NORMAL.
Nadal is a pretty gracious loser most of the time, but sometimes overdoes his on court celebrations too. Not as much as Novak of course (who is ironically a great loser and a rather bad winner)

Off court? Djokovic maybe. I dont think we can talk abt Murray in this convo yet coz he has won nothing of importance. I dont buy Nadal's fake humility and Fed can be an asshole in PCs sometimes.

Win or lose, you can count on getting Nole hug :p Anyway, pretty accurate account :)

tnosugar
01-30-2012, 08:59 AM
You can't deny though that he hugely exaggerates his body language. Multiple times in his last three matches this week I was convinced he was physically toast only for him to be running around like a rabbit a little while later. I don't think he was faking; that's just silly. Why would you fake when you're completely in control of a match? But he definitely needs to control his body language. It's not cheating but it's bad play to behave like that. Murray is very guilty of this too. You'd think he has 10 different injuries over the course of a match sometimes.


Sampras did almost the exact thing, I think someone on tennis.com noticed this.

I think it's just kind of a ritual, or a way to refresh ahead of a point. Expunge the demons. I don't think it affects the players, generally everyone is totally focused on themselves at this level.

I'd also pick between Murray and Djokovic, picked the latter more because of the marked improvement and maturation both on and off the court. I wouldn't like him to turn into a emotionless robot. There's no sportsmanship without some colour and personality.

Corey Feldman
01-30-2012, 09:00 AM
Federer

he has shown nothing but respect for all opponents and even cried with happiness when Nadal beat him in 2009 AO Final

7 time Edberg winner

tnosugar
01-30-2012, 09:04 AM
On court? Federer. And I dont say this because I like him best. Roger is a guy who is a decent loser and a gracious winner. You dont see him screaming and chest pumping and jumping and rolling when he wins, you dont see him throw a tantrum after he loses. He doesnt pretend to be happy (who the hell can be happy after a loss) and may not be all smiles in defeat but he is usually quiet and NORMAL.
Nadal is a pretty gracious loser most of the time, but sometimes overdoes his on court celebrations too. Not as much as Novak of course (who is ironically a great loser and a rather bad winner)

Off court? Djokovic maybe. I dont think we can talk abt Murray in this convo yet coz he has won nothing of importance. I dont buy Nadal's fake humility and Fed can be an asshole in PCs sometimes.

I will remind you of his finger-wagging at RS. There was absolutely no grace in that. And let's not forget the USO final VS Delpo and his on court behaviour then.
Sorry, not convinced.

I agree Novak's celebrations can be annoying, but they are never aimed against another player, unlike some of Federer's reactions.

The only time Novak had an outburst like that was in reaction to Roddick's comments about his faking injuries, which, as we can see in retrospect, were out of place.

delboy
01-30-2012, 10:28 AM
On court Muzza.

Off court Nole and Muzza.

leng jai
01-30-2012, 10:34 AM
Federer

he has shown nothing but respect for all opponents and even cried with happiness when Nadal beat him in 2009 AO Final

7 time Edberg winner

Crystal tears of joy. No wonder Australia isn't in a drought anymore.

sicko
01-30-2012, 10:50 AM
The only time Novak had an outburst like that was in reaction to Roddick's comments about his faking injuries, which, as we can see in retrospect, were out of place.

c'mon, roddick was such a prick in that PC, he clearly didn't joke about his "injuries" in a funny way, it was utterly disrespectful.

nole's reaction was so perfectly appropriate...."he said I have 16 injuries....obviously I don't" :lol::lol: don't dish it out if you can't take it.

if I was in nole's place, I would have said even worse things...

MM_1257
01-30-2012, 10:55 AM
Hahahahahahaha, human mind is an amazing thing. How perspectives, opinions change suddenly when someone becomes a No.1. Amazing.

tnosugar
01-30-2012, 11:40 AM
c'mon, roddick was such a prick in that PC, he clearly didn't joke about his "injuries" in a funny way, it was utterly disrespectful.

nole's reaction was so perfectly appropriate...."he said I have 16 injuries....obviously I don't" :lol::lol: don't dish it out if you can't take it.

if I was in nole's place, I would have said even worse things...

Wasn't referring to that but what he said on court after he beat him in the Q/F I think, which amounted to "take that you a*hole, albeit in more polite form" ;)

and TBH, Djokovic was a bit Machiavellian in his pursuit of success in the early days, which is understandable bearing in mind the pressure he was under in terms of his family's financial sacrifices. It was truly one big gamble. They put everything they had and got indebted with loan sharks so he could develop as a player.
One has to have all this in mind when judging his behaviour as a teenager and during his breakthrough years.
Nadal, Murray and Federer never had this weight around their neck. This is why Novak has this extra edge of resilience today, that these guys cannot quite comprehend.

MurrayMagic1
01-30-2012, 03:39 PM
Murray is the best sportsman. He doesn't cheat. He is quite gracious in his defeats unlike SirSmugFed. End of. Rafa.. well what can I say :o

sicko
01-30-2012, 04:05 PM
Wasn't referring to that but what he said on court after he beat him in the Q/F I think, which amounted to "take that you a*hole, albeit in more polite form" ;)


that's exactly what he said on court after the QF victory. :)

and I don't see anything wrong with that...actually it was a very elegant way to take a dig at roddick because he connected his allegations with the result...only error he made is he pulled the crowd in, that was stupid, but c'mon, he really felt offended, you can't be 100% rational.

wouldn't you be feeling the same way if your opponent accused you of faking(quite a harsh allegation)? wouldn't you exactly be feeling like "take that you asshole"? I know everyone would, so why hide it? just because your supposed to be professional? I for one prefer a sincere person to a fake professional.

Sapeod
01-30-2012, 04:08 PM
You are a twat...
Thanks.

Hypnotize
01-30-2012, 04:09 PM
Murray is the best sportsman. He doesn't cheat. He is quite gracious in his defeats unlike SirSmugFed. End of. Rafa.. well what can I say :o
He's had a lot of practice though hasn't he?

MurrayMagic1
01-30-2012, 04:17 PM
He's had a lot of practice though hasn't he?
http://i.imgur.com/RcqYD.gif

Noleta
01-30-2012, 07:07 PM
Pretty hard to say.

Nole is the most gracious in defeats.Can't say the same about Roger,some of his interviews,after losses,comes across bit sour.

But on court,i'd put Roger first,followed by Rafa,then Nole,with Andy as last.

r2473
01-30-2012, 07:13 PM
It's easy to be gracious (act gracious) when you are winning.

MuzzahLovah
01-30-2012, 07:23 PM
Pretty hard to say.

Nole is the most gracious in defeats.Can't say the same about Roger,some of his interviews,after losses,comes across bit sour.

But on court,i'd put Roger first,followed by Rafa,then Nole,with Andy as last.

You are insane if you think Andy engages in half the gamesmanship, rule breaking etc on court as either Nole or Rafa. Also, Nole's celebrations on court are ridiculous pro-wrestling level and disrespectful of his opponents. He is gracious in defeat, but not in victory.

And this on court off court thing is nonsense- sportsmanship doesn't stop when you leave the court, and for that Fed is among the worst.

chammer44
01-30-2012, 08:07 PM
He also applauds Opponents Shots in between matches!

This and his graciousness in defeat are what turned me around from slightly disliking him to being an outright fan.

chammer44
01-30-2012, 08:11 PM
You are insane if you think Andy engages in half the gamesmanship, rule breaking etc on court as either Nole or Rafa. Also, Nole's celebrations on court are ridiculous pro-wrestling level and disrespectful of his opponents. He is gracious in defeat, but not in victory.

And this on court off court thing is nonsense- sportsmanship doesn't stop when you leave the court, and for that Fed is among the worst.

Do fed's cold bitter post-loss handshakes qualify as "on court?"

Fedfanforever
01-30-2012, 08:12 PM
On court, definitely Federer. Djokovic has his time wasting and his ball bouncing. And Djokovic's celebrations are not sportsmanlike.
Probably not Federer off court though because he tends to speak his mind. And not Nadal off court, because of his comments about Federer.

Noleta
01-30-2012, 08:17 PM
You are insane if you think Andy engages in half the gamesmanship, rule breaking etc on court as either Nole or Rafa. Also, Nole's celebrations on court are ridiculous pro-wrestling level and disrespectful of his opponents. He is gracious in defeat, but not in victory.

And this on court off court thing is nonsense- sportsmanship doesn't stop when you leave the court, and for that Fed is among the worst.

Are you a doctor?

Andy on court demeanour isn't great,he swears all the time,just like Nole does,never seen Roger do that :shrug:

Nole celebrations,he's very emotional on court,last night was expected...that's just adrenaline....other players shows it in different ways obviously.

Both Nole & Rafa take a long time,but the umpires chose to do nothing about it.:shrug:

Friday16
01-30-2012, 08:21 PM
On court, it's Federer without a doubt. Off-court, Murray is better than the others.

Nadal is the worst one because of his fake humbleness and cheatings. Djokovic is friendly off-court but terrible on court.

Roger the Dodger
01-31-2012, 04:41 PM
Nadal's count in the poll! How did this guy even win the Olympics with his brand of sportsmanship?

abraxas21
01-31-2012, 04:50 PM
poll results and thread :rolls:

tektonac
01-31-2012, 04:54 PM
federer's arrogance cost him dearly on this poll :lol:

Roger the Dodger
01-31-2012, 05:08 PM
Do fed's cold bitter post-loss handshakes qualify as "on court?"

No it doesn't. Sportsmanship however, is always on court.

emotion
01-31-2012, 05:59 PM
I'd say Murray to be honest. Barely over Djokovic. Federer a little further back at third and then a few light years back, Nadal

Looner
01-31-2012, 06:03 PM
I like how all the MTF 'experts' have come up with their own pseudo-sportsmanship where off court stuff also counts. Sportsmanship is about respecting your opponent on court. In that sense, Fed is tops.

MaxPower
01-31-2012, 06:15 PM
I'm surprised by the poll result. Isn't the question about sportsmanship on court and not about personality off court?

I think Federer by far is the most sportsmanlike player. You rarely if ever see him bending rules, getting into long arguments with umpires, doing over-the top celebrations. Guess this mysterious off court "arrogance" has lead people to believe he's not sportsmanlike on court.

Murray got a very odd body language but is also very sportsmanlike. Sometimes the occasional language and frustration gets out but he's almost always going after himself rather than the opponent/umpire/crowd

Djokovic is sportsmanlike in many ways. He likes to applaud good shots, he rarely makes a fuzz about bad calls, he's always very friendly at handshakes (sometimes too friendly). Negatives are over the top celebrations, excessive ball bouncing and a few other things.

Nadal? He's a good personality off court but on court he's not sportsmanlike. Lots of weird ticks like having to enter the court last, placement of water bottles, buttpicking and other delays. Also over the top celebrations, late challenges, tactical use of MTOs and a few other things.

GOAT = Fed
01-31-2012, 06:28 PM
While losing (Ranked in order of most gracious):

1). Novak
2). Murray (Very, very tight between Novak and Murray)
3). Federer
4). Nadal

While winning (Ranked in order of most gracious):

1). Federer
2). Murray (Although can't really say, hasn't won much, but is generally very gracious in victory).
3). Nadal
4). Djokovic

Moose Limb
01-31-2012, 08:04 PM
"Are you kidding me? I never played that way. I mean, please."

The epitome of a sore loser off-court.