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Nadal on Murray: "It's just a mental thing". Takes shot at Djokovic

Ash86
01-28-2012, 08:06 AM
So in Rafa's presser unsurprisingly he was asked a lot of questions about Murray (as there are so many British journalists!). Interesting response:

Q. Did you stay up late last night watching the match the other match?

RAFAEL NADAL: I watched the second set, beginning of the third I went for dinner, and I came back after the 4-1 in the fourth and I watched the rest of the match.

Q. What did you think of it?

RAFAEL NADAL: I think the second set was fantastic. Was really impressive level from both of them. First set I didn’t see, but the fourth seems like Andy was very tired. He wasn’t ready to play the fourth, and Nole was much more fresh.

The fifth seems like Andy was very tired, too, because Novak have the control of the situation. But in the 5-3, Andy break with Love-40, so after he had fantastic chance. With a 5-4, 15-40, he little bit of mistake with the forehand in the return on the deuce on the 15-40; 30-40 was an amazing point. Djokovic finished with unbelievable forehand down the line.

Another point for Andy, big mistake to the net for him with his backhand. He didn’t miss not one backhand during all the match, and he missed in that moment. It was a tough moment for him.

After when that happens, playing for four hours forty-five, it’s normal you will be in trouble in the next game; Novak plays well and match was done.

It was an emotional match, and I enjoyed watching on TV.

Q. Andy said last night that he thought he had closed the gap on the top three. Do you feel there has been a little to choose between yourself, Roger, Novak, and Andy now?

RAFAEL NADAL: He never was very far. That’s the true. He’s playing well. He always played fantastic. He’s unlucky not to win a Grand Slam yet.

Yesterday he lost another very good opportunity, in my opinion. Because winning two sets to one, winning the third set, probably losing a lot chances, and then winning with 7-6 — to win a tournament like this and to play against player like Djokovic, you cannot start the fourth set like this.

It’s the moment to play with more intensity than ever, not start with 3-Love down and two breaks in five minutes. That way you lose the match. You want to win the tournament, you cannot start — you can lose — the other can beat you, but you cannot lose in the beginning.

But he’s playing well. He’s playing fantastic. He deserve to win a Grand Slam. He was unlucky at the end, but the only negative thing for me in his match is the beginning of the fourth.

When the other have more doubts, is in really trouble, you make for the opponent easier than what should be, no? That’s my feeling.

For the rest, he can be No. 1 at the end of the season. I don’t have any doubt on that. The level is there. When you are able to play how many, five Grand Slams in a row playing semifinals or final, it’s only a mental thing.

The rest of the things are there. He started the season another time playing very well winning a tournament, playing semifinals here, and few points away to win against No. 1 player of the world.

He’s ready for everything.

Interesting for him to come out and say it's a mental thing but he's right. Murray could have won that match yesterday but just faltered at crucial moments again. His attitude in the 4th set really let him down. Even if we was tired and wanted to be fresh for the 5th he should have made sure he at least made Djokovic serve it out and got to serve first himself in the 5th - that's a huge advantage and he knows that... I also find it impressive how Nadal can remember the points so well - I find it impressive enough when players do it with their own matches but to do it with someone else's too - quite a memory these guys have.

The rest of the pre-final presser is pretty good - http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/interviews/2012-01-28/201201281327725301760.html - Rafa seems relaxed and again unsurprisingly says he'll fight all the way - doesn't know if it'll be enough. Thinks the one day less rest is perhaps unfair but not crazy unfair like the US Open where you have no rest at all and dismisses the idea that the balls are too heavy making it difficult to make winners by joking that it doesn't look like Novak's having trouble making winners!

rickcastle
01-28-2012, 08:16 AM
Yeah, but in tennis, "mental thing" is oftentimes everything. Just ask Federer when he plays against Nadal or Roddick failing to convert one of his set points that would have given him a 2-0 lead against Federer at Wimbledon. When you reach top 5, top 10, you're already playing at a very high level and clearly can compete with the best of the best but it's the "mental thing" that separates the guys who can actually win grandslams from those who can't.

scoobs
01-28-2012, 08:23 AM
That word "just" covers a potentially huge gap.

Li Ching Yuen
01-28-2012, 08:29 AM
Nadal always had the right approach to competing. No surprises here.

Everyone else is just catching up in that department.

MuzzahLovah
01-28-2012, 08:40 AM
Murray is not very skilled at strategically dropping sets yet, but Fed and Nole are pretty experienced with it. Nadal doesn't really do that sort of thing which has at times helped him but also costs him a lot with Nole.

shiaben
01-28-2012, 09:07 AM
Speaking of mental thing. Azarenka's mentality >>>>>>>>>> Mugrays.

She had a sluggish start 0-3, came back and finished the match 6-3, 6-0 and baggeled the erroneous Sharpaova.

Clydey
01-28-2012, 09:08 AM
No one else notice what he said about Djokovic's fitness?

Q. Novak has been having some trouble with breathing in the last two matches. Do you think it'll be a factor tomorrow and something you can take advantage of?

RAFAEL NADAL: It's funny, no? I saw the match yesterday on the TV she show on the Channel 7 when he was in the fifth set moving fantastically well, and they show images from two hours fifty before and seems like he was destroyed. Two hours fifty later he was in perfect condition.

So is difficult to imagine that he has these problems. I don't know.

rickcastle
01-28-2012, 09:10 AM
^ LOL. He is one to talk. What hypocrisy.

shiaben
01-28-2012, 09:16 AM
Uncle Toni told him to say these things. Uncle Toni is preparing the mind games ASAP to increase Nadal's % of winning the title. Clever this Toni...

Ash86
01-28-2012, 09:33 AM
Well he's right on Djokovic's fitness - he looked better after 4 hours than he did after 2 hours - it's not controversial to say that that's funny & that Nadal doesn't know about what problems Novak has. Don't think he's insinuating anything strange - but glad he's aware of the fact that just because Novak looks like he's on the ropes doesn't mean he won't still be hitting winners and looking great half an hour later... It's the same as Murray clutching his leg all the time & then still blasting away opponents.

Think he's complementary of both Novak & Andy in that presser & seems in a good place mentally. Even if he loses tomorrow I don't think it'll be a big blow like say Wimbledon was. Hope Lendl talked to Andy about that 4th set - Nadal's spot on - you need to make your opponent earn it rather than wilt away.

rickcastle
01-28-2012, 09:37 AM
It's clear he's insinuating something with this statement: "They show images from two hours fifty before and seems like he was destroyed. Two hours fifty later he was in perfect condition." Come on, take the Nadal goggles off and see that statement for what it really means :lol:

romismak
01-28-2012, 09:59 AM
Agree that is in mental thing, but not always, maybe he was just unlucky, before with mental thing i think it was also his style of counter-punching and being to passive against truly best guys you can´t be passive and in defense all the time, but it seems like he is playing more agressive, hope he will stay that way and only thing missing will be to improove his mental toughness. He has no problems with mental toughness outside slams i think- his record in F of Masters 1000 is 8-1, the only one he lost was against Rafa in 2009 IW in very windy conditions, so really his mental toughness seems to be only problem, also his stamina-physicall training are good enough to play 5 sets, he has turn around matches from being down 0:2 on sets multiple times so really pls Andy do something with your self-believe and then it will all click. BTW i think Nole was in some mental crisis like ANdy in 2009,10, where those losses to Rafa on clay crushed him and than his serve, everything was pathetic and he wasn´t able in crucial moments take his game to another level. Novak´s medicine was DC, we can speak about gluten-free whatever but confidence came back with DC. Andy needs something to boost his confidence and maybe this SF match against Nole could have been that one, pitty he didn´t make it.

syc23
01-28-2012, 10:17 AM
So why did Rafa let Nole breadstick him in the 4th at USO final after winning the 3rd set? Nadal look like he was on the ascendency especially after Novak called an MTO. Yet the Serb clubbed him in the 4th.

At least Murray didn't give up at 5-2 in the 5th and actually took 2 sets of Nole. If he loses to Djoko tomorrow these comments will make him look like a prized idiot.

Ash86
01-28-2012, 10:27 AM
That's why he is the most hated player.

In the deluded tiny world of MTF maybe - pretty sure he's not the most hated when you look at the crowd response to him. :rolleyes: He's the most popular after Fed & the rest like Novak, Murray etc. are a long way back on that front. It pains people to admit it but outside the internet he's one of the 2 superstars in the game - clearly the public can live with his "untalented" game.

I think Rafa is a bit sceptical about Novak's physical issues & to be honest I'd rather he'd just said "I don't know" and moved on especially as people always question his own injuries - think he just talks too much as usual. Think everyone was a bit sceptical though yesterday - even the commentators - how can allergies affect you and then suddenly go away so fast? Personally think that's just Novak's style - not done deliberately to put off his opponent, but just like Andy likes to moan, Novak likes to look at death's door and then roar back...

Chirag
01-28-2012, 10:27 AM
Nadal on Djokovic,I miss that fake humbleness :sad:

"It's funny, no? I saw the match yesterday on the TV show on the channel seven when he was in the fifth set moving fantastically well, and they show images from two hours fifty (minutes) before and seems like he was destroyed," the 10-times grand slam champion said on Saturday.

"Two hours fifty later he was in perfect condition. So it is difficult to imagine that he has these problems. I don't know."

http://eurosport.yahoo.com/28012012/2/tennis-nadal-djokovic-fire-shots-ahead-final.html

EliSter
01-28-2012, 10:31 AM
Cant wait for roasting.

Corey Feldman
01-28-2012, 10:31 AM
:haha: from him

someone should remind him of his matches v Del Potro and Petzschner at Wimbledon

guy is a pure hypocrit of the highest order

Hypnotize
01-28-2012, 10:32 AM
Was Nadal sliding under a table in "agony" when he was making these comments?:haha:

Ash86
01-28-2012, 10:33 AM
So why did Rafa let Nole breadstick him in the 4th at USO final after winning the 3rd set? Nadal look like he was on the ascendency especially after Novak called an MTO. Yet the Serb clubbed him in the 4th.

At least Murray didn't give up at 5-2 in the 5th and actually took 2 sets of Nole. If he loses to Djoko tomorrow these comments will make him look like a prized idiot.

Umm... there's a difference. Rafa had nothing left in the tank after the 3rd set and was actually 2-1 down. Murray was 2 sets to 1 up - more in control of the match and obviously still had something to give as he fought in the 5th. Also Rafa still fought in that 4th set even if it was a beatdown - he didn't just tank it. Murray did seem to tank that last game, already preparing for the 5th - he should have still done enough to make Novak serve for it and not make it that easy...

The comments have nothing to do with him winning/losing to Novak tomorrow. He's very complimentary of Murray's match and says the only criticism he would have is the 4th set - most people would have the same criticism I think - other than that he did very well. :shrug:

samanosuke
01-28-2012, 10:35 AM
would be spot on in any case except when this came from his disgusting mouth . has to be really retarded and restricted to not to see that he is doing this all the time

emotion
01-28-2012, 10:36 AM
Djokovic acts tired. So what? He doesn't do anything. Nadal fakes injuries, calls MTOs at crucial moments, gets illegal coaching, brings into question the morality of any umpire who dares enforce a rule against him.

r3d_d3v1l_
01-28-2012, 10:37 AM
He´s right. Murray only made two mistakes and those were letting Djokovic come back from the match losing in the forth set 6-1 and letting him serve first in the fifth.

These two moments ruined his chances of winning the match. But still, he was very close.

delboy
01-28-2012, 10:38 AM
too good this el humbleito :worship:

Corey Feldman
01-28-2012, 10:38 AM
Was Nadal sliding under a table in "agony" when he was making these comments?:haha:stood up and felt his knee and cried all day coz he thought he was gonna miss tournament

and he's not in the condition to beat any players right now, passion for tennis is gone

MaxPower
01-28-2012, 10:42 AM
Humbalito throwing stones living in a glass house. Textbook definition of the word hypocrite

r3d_d3v1l_
01-28-2012, 10:42 AM
What´s so surprising? Fakervic physical issues have always been the subject throught his career.

The only unusual thing is that the coment comes from the always humble Nadal.

rickcastle
01-28-2012, 10:42 AM
I think Rafa is a bit sceptical about Novak's physical issues & to be honest I'd rather he'd just said "I don't know" and moved on especially as people always question his own injuries - think he just talks too much as usual. Think everyone was a bit sceptical though yesterday - even the commentators - how can allergies affect you and then suddenly go away so fast? Personally think that's just Novak's style - not done deliberately to put off his opponent, but just like Andy likes to moan, Novak likes to look at death's door and then roar back...

It doesn't matter if everyone was a bit skeptical, Nadal should STFU because he has no place to talk. At least Djokovic didn't stop the match and call for trainers for a nonexistent injury then proceed to run around like a freaking gazelle. If it's coming from someone who rarely takes MTOs like Federer, it would still sound a bit bitter but coming from Nadal - it's downright hilarious and damn hypocritical.

rickcastle
01-28-2012, 10:43 AM
This is why I can't stand this guy :facepalm: Humble champion my foot. What a hypocritical POS.

syc23
01-28-2012, 10:49 AM
Umm... there's a difference. Rafa had nothing left in the tank after the 3rd set and was actually 2-1 down. Murray was 2 sets to 1 up - more in control of the match and obviously still had something to give as he fought in the 5th. Also Rafa still fought in that 4th set even if it was a beatdown - he didn't just tank it. Murray did seem to tank that last game, already preparing for the 5th - he should have still done enough to make Novak serve for it and not make it that easy...

The comments have nothing to do with him winning/losing to Novak tomorrow. He's very complimentary of Murray's match and says the only criticism he would have is the 4th set - most people would have the same criticism I think - other than that he did very well. :shrug:

I accept that Andy 2-1 up should not have really tanked the 4th but sometimes winning a set like the 3rd can drain you for the next set whether you are leading or trailing. I'm sure Murray will take this onboard the next time he is in that situation.

Just like heaven
01-28-2012, 10:49 AM
What does this have to do with being humble or not? :confused:
He's just saying what he saw because the journalist asked him about it. Murray and anyone else who saw the match said the same thing so it's not something surprising or unexpected.

xdrewitdajx
01-28-2012, 10:53 AM
way to not overreact, guys.

Nothing wrong with what Nadal said...it is an observation in response to a question...and it is neither wrong nor impolite/insulting

Gagsquet
01-28-2012, 10:57 AM
Anyway, Rafole final is the death of tennis.

MIMIC
01-28-2012, 10:58 AM
RAFAEL NADAL: He never was very far. That’s the true. He’s playing well. He always played fantastic. He’s unlucky not to win a Grand Slam yet.

Yesterday he lost another very good opportunity, in my opinion. Because winning two sets to one, winning the third set, probably losing a lot chances, and then winning with 7-6 — to win a tournament like this and to play against player like Djokovic, you cannot start the fourth set like this.

It’s the moment to play with more intensity than ever, not start with 3-Love down and two breaks in five minutes. That way you lose the match. You want to win the tournament, you cannot start — you can lose — the other can beat you, but you cannot lose in the beginning.

But he’s playing well. He’s playing fantastic. He deserve to win a Grand Slam. He was unlucky at the end, but the only negative thing for me in his match is the beginning of the fourth.

http://i.imgur.com/wrOsg.jpg

Good one, Rafa :haha:

GSMnadal
01-28-2012, 11:01 AM
http://i.imgur.com/wrOsg.jpg

Good one, Rafa :haha:

He's right isn't he, you can't do that if you want to win :shrug:

Allez
01-28-2012, 11:04 AM
He isn't saying anything other people haven't said. Everyone who is asked the question responds in a similar manner. This has nothing to do with humility. Aside from his constant digs at Fed being the forever and always favourite the guy is a class act...

rickcastle
01-28-2012, 11:09 AM
What does this have to do with being humble or not? :confused:
He's just saying what he saw because the journalist asked him about it. Murray and anyone else who saw the match said the same thing so it's not something surprising or unexpected.

Because part of humility is being able to recognize your own faults and mistakes. Nadal calling Djokovic out on this shows that Nadal is not really able to recognize that he is guilty of doing this too. Nadal is doing a classic "pot meet kettle" move here, but on a worse level because at least Djokovic didn't stop the match to call for an MTO and then proceed to run around without any apparent injury. Yes, he's stating something that many people might've observed but coming from him, it is very hypocritical. I'm sure you've heard the saying "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."

Just like heaven
01-28-2012, 11:17 AM
Because part of humility is being able to recognize your own faults and mistakes and not calling it out when you see other people doing it. Nadal is doing a classic "pot meet kettle" move here, but on a worse level because at least Djokovic didn't stop the match to call for an MTO and then proceed to run around without any apparent injury. Yes, he's stating something that many people might've observed but coming from him, it is very hypocritical. I'm sure you've heard the saying "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."

The purpose of taking a MTO is to make you feel better. If Nadal feels pain, takes a MTO and then feels fine, then it means the trainer did his job.
If you expect him to take a MTO and then feel bad, then why does the MTO exist in the first place? :confused: According to you, it's supposed to make you feel worse, not better. That doesn't make any sense.

Corey Feldman
01-28-2012, 11:17 AM
the sarcasm shone through in his words

anyway, more..

Nadal felt it was a chance squandered for Murray, who has now reached the semi-finals or better at the last five major events.

"He lost another very good opportunity, in my opinion," stated the 10-time Grand Slam champion from Spain.

"To win a tournament like this and to play against a player like Djokovic, you cannot start the fourth set like this.

"It's the moment to play with more intensity than ever, not start with 3-0 down and two breaks in five minutes. That way you lose the match.

Rafa not happy Muzza is opponent in the final for him to steamroller

Allez
01-28-2012, 11:18 AM
Because part of humility is being able to recognize your own faults and mistakes. Nadal calling Djokovic out on this shows that Nadal is not really able to recognize that he is guilty of doing this too. Nadal is doing a classic "pot meet kettle" move here, but on a worse level because at least Djokovic didn't stop the match to call for an MTO and then proceed to run around without any apparent injury. Yes, he's stating something that many people might've observed but coming from him, it is very hypocritical. I'm sure you've heard the saying "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."

What on earth did you expect him to say ? Everyone who has been asked the question has said virtually the same thing. Why should he give a nonsense answer just to be PC ?

Dmitry Verdasco
01-28-2012, 11:25 AM
Bird flu.

bad gambler
01-28-2012, 11:28 AM
err he was saying exactly what everyone saw on their TV

Corey Feldman
01-28-2012, 11:29 AM
Bird flu.exactly what i was thinking

this is like when Roddick talked about Nole in 2008 US Open

rickcastle
01-28-2012, 11:29 AM
The purpose of taking a MTO is to make you feel better. If Nadal feels pain, takes a MTO and then feels fine, then it means the trainer did his job.
If you expect him to take a MTO and then feel bad, then why does the MTO exist in the first place? :confused: According to you, it's supposed to make you feel worse, not better. That doesn't make any sense.

I expect him to feel better but not run around like a gazelle as if nothing really happened. Face it, Nadal takes a lot of dubious MTO's, especially when he's down in a match. It is way worse than just grimacing and huffing and puffing in between points because an MTO stops a match and can break your opponent's momentum. Point is - it's hypocritical of him to say anything. Do you disagree?

What on earth did you expect him to say ? Everyone who has been asked the question has said virtually the same thing. Why should he give a nonsense answer just to be PC ?

I believe the question was "Novak has been having some trouble with breathing in the last two matches. Do you think it'll be a factor tomorrow and something you can take advantage of?" He was just asked if he thought it could be a factor and he answered with an implication that Djokovic is just faking it. He could've just said that no he doesn't believe it would be a factor, that wouldn't be a nonsense answer at all and it wouldn't sound so hypocritical coming from him.

Allez
01-28-2012, 11:31 AM
Well he was trying to justify WHY he perhaps thinks it will NOT be a factor in the final. What's wrong with that ?

rickcastle
01-28-2012, 11:34 AM
Well he was trying to justify WHY he perhaps thinks it will NOT be a factor in the final. What's wrong with that ?

His statement was unnecessary and hypocritical, that's what wrong with it in my book.

atennisfan
01-28-2012, 11:35 AM
Well, Djokovic learnt from the best. Djoker 2.0 really used Nadal as the template.

Allez
01-28-2012, 11:39 AM
His statement was unnecessary and hypocritical, that's what wrong with it in my book.

Well thank god your opinion is just but one of millions of differing opinions on this matter. It will be interesting to hear Nole's take on this... My bet is that he'll probably shrug it off as the non-issue that it is.

rickcastle
01-28-2012, 11:47 AM
Well thank god your opinion is just but one of millions of differing opinions on this matter. It will be interesting to hear Nole's take on this... My bet is that he'll probably shrug it off as the non-issue that it is.

I didn't say my opinion was the end all be all though, did I? Thank God your opinion is just but one of differing opinions on this matter too. And I doubt if Djokovic did give a public statement about his take on this that it would be 100% truthful if ever, if we've learned anything from the so called Fedal rift earlier in this tournament is that these guys do not want to get themselves embroiled in a public word war.

henke007
01-28-2012, 11:48 AM
Classact mug this "Knee" dull

Regenbogen
01-28-2012, 11:50 AM
Man, I was expecting something more exciting than this. Seems like a reasonable answer to me -- in fact, I think it'd be reasonable for Djokovic to say, "well you saw I was moving fine in the fifth set so maybe stop reading so much into my body language."

This is just Nadal being aware of what Djokovic is like. As he should be.

Allez
01-28-2012, 11:54 AM
I didn't say my opinion was the end all be all though, did I? Thank God your opinion is just but one of differing opinions on this matter too. And I doubt if Djokovic did give a public statement about his take on this that it would be 100% truthful if ever, if we've learned anything from the so called Fedal rift earlier in this tournament is that these guys do not want to get themselves embroiled in a public word war.

All the more reason to appreciate a player's frankness when it wiggles its way to the surface. Someone once said it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you're not...might have been Kurt Cobain...

Vida
01-28-2012, 12:03 PM
hm. well by the sound of what he's saying it doesnt sit right. I mean it is kind of a "shot".

but if anything, these type of jabs dont hurt djoko. the opposite even.

if you're hurt and your opponent steps on your pain, it is only natural you will try twice as hard to knock him down.

green25814
01-28-2012, 12:07 PM
Lol at people making a big deal over these comments.

Grow some balls you guys. I wish the top players weren't so friendly with each other personally

Mystique
01-28-2012, 12:24 PM
LMAO....Nadal is one to talk :rolls:
Djokovic is really in his head. First he tries to kill him by "accidentally" hitting the ball right at his chest in an exho, now mocks how Djokovic is imitating him in long matches...
Some one is bitter.

zlaja777
01-28-2012, 12:25 PM
Nice way to motivate Djokovic even more.

Allez
01-28-2012, 12:27 PM
LMAO....Nadal is one to talk :rolls:
Djokovic is really in his head. First he tries to kill him by "accidentally" hitting the ball right at his chest in an exho, now mocks how Djokovic is imitating him in long matches...
Some one is bitter.

If I were you I'd have waited until AFTER the match before saying all that bs;)

Sri
01-28-2012, 12:40 PM
Rafa is working hard collecting negative karma points from everyone. Sponsors, organizers, ATP, Federer before AO, Novak before the final.

Hmm..

Looner
01-28-2012, 12:41 PM
Djokovic better bring the big kebab as this piggy is getting bigger by the minute.

Mystique
01-28-2012, 12:42 PM
If I were you I'd have waited until AFTER the match before saying all that bs;)

Well, one you are not me. And second, this has nothing to do with what will happen tomorrow.
Nadal has obviously not taken his losses to Novak too well, and it definitely is hilarious to see him of all people criticizing Djokovic of pretending to be tired/injured. Call it BS if you may, its true.

nalbyfan
01-28-2012, 12:52 PM
Come ans smell the perfume of the roses...

mystic ice cube
01-28-2012, 12:55 PM
Was Nadal sliding under a table in "agony" when he was making these comments?:haha:
LMAO, I genuinely lol'd at this comment. :) This might come across as a bit spiteful from Nadal, and he may end up as the bad guy, but why wouldn't you question it? Djoker seems like a wounded animal on the side of the road half way through the match, then is fist pumping two hours later. I like Nole & his game, but that shit has a name; unfair

rickcastle
01-28-2012, 01:17 PM
All the more reason to appreciate a player's frankness when it wiggles its way to the surface. Someone once said it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you're not...might have been Kurt Cobain...

Why should I appreciate it when his frankness sits with me the wrong way? If he's being honest about something that he's not guilty of, I might appreciate it. But he's calling out someone for doing the exact same thing he's been doing (which he's been doing in a more egregious way I might add), it's stupid and hypocritical of him.

Larry_David
01-28-2012, 01:23 PM
Cant wait for roasting.

Me neither, Nadal in in a 3-0 beat down :worship:

romismak
01-28-2012, 01:25 PM
Poor Rafa what he is thinking he is doing? He is just making himself big target on sunday when Serbinator will arrive Rafa will be scared and destroyed out there... that he is pointing out on something similar-the same he is doing is another thing:D am surprised there were not serbian press or somebody that would asked him : Rafa you are doing the same NO?

alter ego
01-28-2012, 01:38 PM
Now we all know Nadull was at home fistpumping for Murray. The poor buttpicker probably thought he won the title when Murray had 2 bp at 5 all.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
01-28-2012, 01:53 PM
oooooooh snap!

nadal on his attempted roddick comedy run- we know how nole dealt with that

shotgun
01-28-2012, 01:58 PM
He's employing the same strategy he used against Federer. Trash talk before the match, then walks on the court with the responsibility to back his words up. :lol:

Kiedis
01-28-2012, 02:06 PM
Nadal said to the Spanish press that he had psyched himself to play more aggressive tennis of his career against Djkovic. So I like this analysis: this time he will not buy the recurrent Serbian acting as a "wounded bunny" and will not accept his invitation to make it physical. If Rafa thinks he can defeat Nole outrunnig him he will have fallen again into the Nole trap. He just has to risk and try to dominate the points. I know, not his game but the only chance he has for win. Vamos Rafa.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
01-28-2012, 02:10 PM
remember guys when the nadull tards used to call federer out for stuff no where near as bad as this

so much for humility in this era

there will never be another edberg

fake ass humblito and his new found bitch streak

rinnegan
01-28-2012, 02:16 PM
Humbalito is slowly showing his true colors.

GSMnadal
01-28-2012, 02:18 PM
Nadal just says what everybody here on MTF also said in the livescore thread, and he get's crucified by those same people :lol:

nole_no1
01-28-2012, 02:20 PM
Yep the hypocrite showing his real face once again :)

Kick his ass Nole :rocker2:

Kiedis
01-28-2012, 02:21 PM
remember guys when the nadull tards used to call federer out for stuff no where near as bad as this

so much for humility in this era

there will never be another edberg

fake ass humblito and his new found bitch streak

Believe me, it works like a charm! ;)

http://imagethumbnails.milo.com/000/824/079/trimmed/824935_2752079_trimmed.jpg

sicko
01-28-2012, 02:22 PM
and in the post match interview yesterday nole once again said rafa and him are great friends. :)

not the first time...nole shows WAY too much respect for rafa. I mean, yes, he is a great fighter, but sometimes lacks personality. for example when he complained about nole celebrating his victory in madrid too much, there rafa really lost a lot of respect. what a fucking douche to say something like that? a person should be able to celebrate wherever and whenever he wants. if rafa feels offended then this says a lot about his character...

sylacauga
01-28-2012, 02:23 PM
Nole please destroy this punk.

rickcastle
01-28-2012, 02:26 PM
Nadal just says what everybody here on MTF also said in the livescore thread, and he get's crucified by those same people :lol:

The difference is they're not guilty of doing the same thing, it's not hypocritical when coming from someone who doesn't pull the same shit.

Punky
01-28-2012, 02:34 PM
Yep the hypocrite showing his real face once again :)

Kick his ass Nole :rocker2:

fake nadal is slowly showing his true colors, eww

i hope novak will kick his ass

NadalPhan
01-28-2012, 02:55 PM
The difference is they're not guilty of doing the same thing, it's not hypocritical when coming from someone who doesn't pull the same shit.

Nah, Rafa fakes injuries. Nole was faking being tired ;)

Clay Death
01-28-2012, 03:02 PM
He isn't saying anything other people haven't said. Everyone who is asked the question responds in a similar manner. This has nothing to do with humility. Aside from his constant digs at Fed being the forever and always favourite the guy is a class act...

excellent post. clay warrior usually speaks the truth. he is also not that bright so he probably should have just kept his mouth shut. this is not boxing so why work your mouth for nothing.

nole basically found some new energy to finish the match. it can happen with great athletes. they can come up with heroic efforts when the moment calls for it. that is the difference between him and the rest right now.

nole is willing to endure the physical pain and the required hard work on the court. they should all go out and try to emulate this guy. he is giving them a free lesson. go work on your fitness so you too can fight for 5 hours.

abraxas21
01-28-2012, 03:05 PM
faking clown calling out another faking clown

too funny

Kiedis
01-28-2012, 03:07 PM
Nah, Rafa fakes injuries. Nole was faking being tired ;)

Rafa is a bit hypochondriac and its has become worse because he had many problems with injuries and that is very dangerous stuff for anyone which professional career relies on his body, plus he is a sports lover (he likes golf, sky, spearfishing, etc.), so he it's normal he pay close attention the signals his body sends him. If something Rafa fears in this world is to tun over in a physical handicapped person.

rickcastle
01-28-2012, 03:10 PM
Nah, Rafa fakes injuries. Nole was faking being tired ;)

Yeah, which is worse. Either way, he's being a hypocrite.

MrChopin
01-28-2012, 03:12 PM
Finally a reason to watch the final.

Clay Death
01-28-2012, 03:16 PM
dont be surprised if the this final goes 4-5 hours.

ballbasher101
01-28-2012, 03:28 PM
My ribs oh my ribs :superlol:. The real Nadal comes out. Looking tired is not a crime Rafa. Didn't Rafa take aim at tennis in the 90s, I think he called it boring or something. So humble this guy. Hope Nadal's injured knee and shoulder will be fine for the final :haha:.

abraxas21
01-28-2012, 03:30 PM
humbalito is the cancer of tennis

Johnny Groove
01-28-2012, 03:32 PM
None of this bullshit matters.

Come match time is when the real shit goes down.

NadalPhan
01-28-2012, 03:35 PM
Yeah, which is worse. Either way, he's being a hypocrite.

Truth be told, besides Federer, most of the top guys or ranked players fake injuries. Murray has done it, Nole has done it, Monfils has done it, etc.

v-money
01-28-2012, 03:41 PM
Nadal calling it like it is. I respect that.

Clay Death
01-28-2012, 03:42 PM
nadal is not bright enough to lie or bullshit. he is a simple bloke by any stretch of the imagination.

tektonac
01-28-2012, 03:42 PM
nadal was obviously disappointed murray lost.

Clay Death
01-28-2012, 03:51 PM
it is better this way. he needs to fight the best of the best.

that is what you really want if you are a true warrior.

Roddickominator
01-28-2012, 04:01 PM
Honestly...Nadal, Djokovic, and Murray all engage in this type of behavior. They are being hypocrites if they are accusing the other player of doing something wrong when they themselves do it as well. It's all just gamesmanship on the court and in the media....makes for a little better drama come match time.

It really is a shame that Nadal and Djokovic are the best players in the world in some ways....they bend or break the most rules of anyone and they get away with it. Nothing we can do about it though. I think it'll be a good final regardless.

rickcastle
01-28-2012, 04:12 PM
Truth be told, besides Federer, most of the top guys or ranked players fake injuries. Murray has done it, Nole has done it, Monfils has done it, etc.

What's your point? He's still a hypocrite for calling someone out on essentially the same thing he does. Do you disagree?

LoveFifteen
01-28-2012, 04:13 PM
Reading this thread just teaching me one thing: Federer fans are some of the most vile creatures on this planet. :barf:

Mae
01-28-2012, 04:20 PM
Nadal on Djokovic,I miss that fake humbleness :sad:

"It's funny, no? I saw the match yesterday on the TV show on the channel seven when he was in the fifth set moving fantastically well, and they show images from two hours fifty (minutes) before and seems like he was destroyed," the 10-times grand slam champion said on Saturday.

"Two hours fifty later he was in perfect condition. So it is difficult to imagine that he has these problems. I don't know."

http://eurosport.yahoo.com/28012012/2/tennis-nadal-djokovic-fire-shots-ahead-final.html

I have to admit it I have thought the exact same thing about Nole myself :facepalm:

NadalPhan
01-28-2012, 04:26 PM
Nadal is doing a classic "pot meet kettle" move here, but on a worse level because at least Djokovic didn't stop the match to call for an MTO and then proceed to run around without any apparent injury

2011 US Open.

What's your point? He's still a hypocrite for calling someone out on essentially the same thing he does

My point is this

The difference is they're not guilty of doing the same thing

You say they are not guilty of doing the same shit, but they are. That's why I pointed out that Fed aside, most of the ranking players do fake injuries as well at times.

rickcastle
01-28-2012, 04:28 PM
2011 US Open.

My point is this

You say they are not guilty of doing the same shit, but they are. That's why I pointed out that Fed aside, most of the ranking players do fake injuries as well at times.

I was under the impression that we were discussing Djokovic's actions on his match against Murray.

WTF? When I say "they are not guilty of doing the same shit" - I was referring to the posters here on MTF, not Djokovic, Murray, et al. Try to reread the post I quoted. (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=11691820&postcount=56) Thanks.

NadalPhan
01-28-2012, 04:35 PM
WTF? When I say "they are not guilty of doing the same shit" - I was referring to the posters here on MTF, not Djokovic, Murray, et al. Try to reread the post I quoted. Thanks.

You were referring that the posters here on MTF don't fake injuries when playing tennis, thus they are not hypocritical? lol...


I'll admit that Rafa pointing out the fact that Nole was acting is hypocritical, but you're losing it here.

Looner
01-28-2012, 04:36 PM
ITT, Nadull fans are desperate to find an excuse for their idol's hypocrisy.

Right On
01-28-2012, 04:44 PM
Tomorrow this BS from Nadal will be met with a proper response.

tennis2tennis
01-28-2012, 04:46 PM
I'm no Nole fan but Rafa does it all the time ..I lost count of the number of times he calls a trainer than starts doing the usain bolt take off out of his chair...any way this is really mild trash talk

Ash86
01-28-2012, 04:57 PM
I maintain that Rafa shouldn't even have responded to the question (and even what he did say was tame) but he's clearly not alone on the issue. Here's what Andy had to say:

But then, as Murray said, Djokovic can be even more dangerous when he is suffering physically. “If he is tired, he’s still hitting the ball so cleanly,” Murray said. “He’s going for shots and making them, shortening the points.”

When asked if he found Djokovic’s theatrical displays of exhaustion annoying, Murray was diplomatic, saying: “I’m sure he is struggling. I don’t look at him and think, ‘he’s being an idiot’, I just know he’s going to be fine in a few minutes. So you don’t lose concentration over it.”

But he did admit that “I feel like if it was me I would be getting criticised a lot for doing what he does. People would say ‘Andy’s play-acting’.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/australianopen/9045692/Australian-Open-2012-Rafael-Nadal-buoyant-ahead-of-Novak-Djokovic-clash.html

Imagine if Rafa had said that - MTF would be having a field day. Clearly, whether or not Novak is actually struggling or not, the other players don't think much of it anymore. And I admit perhaps the same is true of Rafa who often has an injury or two yet still ends up winning which probably means his opponents don't pay much notice of that either. Both no.1 and no.2 do have their issues in this regard.

MatchFederer
01-28-2012, 05:02 PM
Pot calling kettle?

MariaV
01-28-2012, 05:22 PM
Nadal said to the Spanish press that he had psyched himself to play more aggressive tennis of his career against Djkovic. So I like this analysis: this time he will not buy the recurrent Serbian acting as a "wounded bunny" and will not accept his invitation to make it physical. If Rafa thinks he can defeat Nole outrunnig him he will have fallen again into the Nole trap. He just has to risk and try to dominate the points. I know, not his game but the only chance he has for win. Vamos Rafa.

Right about that, I doubt he'll be able to execute well enough vs Nole 2.0 byut yeah being aggressive & taking risks is his only chance. :o :o

LleytonMonfils
01-28-2012, 05:24 PM
Roddick said this many years ago and Novak lashed out towards the crowd after. Nothing new. Nadal is kind of the same way though. All these players grimacing as if they are really hurt than running like fit fiddles when the point starts. It's lame.

Logical
01-28-2012, 05:37 PM
ITT, Nadull fans are desperate to find an excuse for their idol's hypocrisy.why Fedull tards have problem?:confused:Novak fans say nothing here.Fakovic is actor.Nadal take medical time out if he feels pain in knee or leg.Novak looked tired yesterday but time out he did not took.So he creates impression he is tired.:wavey:

Mountaindewslave
01-28-2012, 05:39 PM
hm. well by the sound of what he's saying it doesnt sit right. I mean it is kind of a "shot".

but if anything, these type of jabs dont hurt djoko. the opposite even.

if you're hurt and your opponent steps on your pain, it is only natural you will try twice as hard to knock him down.

lol what a fucking joke.

some of you must be pretty pathetic Djokovic fans because if you are really taking this as a "jab" you clearly did not watch the match.

Djokovic looked sick/defeated/in pain at certain points in the first few sets and then looked great in the last few sets. Nadal is not saying necessarily that Novak faked anything he is just saying point blank what he saw. it's amusing you call it a 'shot' when all of the tennis commentators (these are famous former players of course) said the exact same things as they watched. people around me watching the match were saying the same thing!

all of you grow up and stop making something out of nothing. maybe if Nadal calls out for injury time outs in the final THEN attack him, but don't act so naive as to try to find something to hate out of thin air. Djokovic looked horrible shape wise in the first half of the match and then miraculously looked amazing fitness a lot of the second. maybe he's just a fighter or maybe there's something more to it, but Nadal merely answered a reporter's question as to what he saw.

that's all it is and that's where it ends.

Mountaindewslave
01-28-2012, 05:46 PM
Pot calling kettle?

stupid to say that, it is not as though Nadal brought this up himself. he was asked a SPECIFIC question. that would be like if you were a arrested for fraud earlier in life and i was a reporter interviewing you and I asked "what do you think about the actions of Bernie Madoff?" obviously you would have to criticize or point out his horrible bamboozling schemes. it would not make you a hypocrite as much as merely be an example of you answering a question

SetSampras
01-28-2012, 05:48 PM
Watching the match again.. I have to admit the whole "injury and breathing" crap is strange. Remember the USO, Nole looks like hes on deaths door.. Nadal gets the momentum in the match finally and Nole calls the medical timeout to do stretches and shit to take the momentum away from Nadal. Then Nole is miraculously just fine for the 4th set at the USO.

Neither of these guys is perfect. I can't bear the play acting of Novak though.

MatchFederer
01-28-2012, 05:48 PM
But poor Rafito sounds so condescending in his intent which is funny given his incessant small physical problems which he turns into incandescent beacons of light.

manadrainer
01-28-2012, 05:56 PM
Humbleito strikes again. NID.

Looner
01-28-2012, 05:57 PM
why Fedull tards have problem?:confused:Novak fans say nothing here.Fakovic is actor.Nadal take medical time out if he feels pain in knee or leg.Novak looked tired yesterday but time out he did not took.So he creates impression he is tired.:wavey:

Has your brain transplant operation been delayed yet again? If yes, no wonder. With all the demand from RN fans left, right and centre, there's bound to be a big queue.

SetSampras
01-28-2012, 05:58 PM
You can remember back at the USO when Nadal finally picked up Momentum and was blowing Nole off the court, when Djokovic did the whole medical timeout, stretch routine, which totally destroyed Nadal's momentum and whatever 2nd wind he was rolling on..

Nole comes back and is miraculously fine. I can't blame Nadal for questioning some of the things Nole does. At times, I question them myself

Mountaindewslave
01-28-2012, 05:58 PM
Watching the match again.. I have to admit the whole "injury and breathing" crap is strange. Remember the USO, Nole looks like hes on deaths door.. Nadal gets the momentum in the match finally and Nole calls the medical timeout to do stretches and shit to take the momentum away from Nadal. Then Nole is miraculously just fine for the 4th set at the USO.

Neither of these guys is perfect. I can't bear the play acting of Novak though.

I agree. I think that Nadal may or may not exxagerate injury problems at times and has his faults too, but I feel like Novak gets away with being very disingenuous. somehow he plays 'tired' all the time and so many fans and spectators let it go. even this thread which is regarding the fact that Djokovic had some questionable 'tiredness' during his last match evolves into criticizing Nadal for his own questionable moments of health.

let's face up, both players obviously use this method to trick or get their opponents out of whack

NID
01-28-2012, 06:04 PM
WTF is this 'he faked tiredness' bullshit all about? I was under the impression that one can look like Grim Reaper himself on the court, as long as he/she plays.
Djokovic was tired, caught second wind, started playing better. I cannot believe the idiocy of those who reckon that one gains some advantage in the match by 'faking tiredness'.
As for USO 2011 medical, it was legit. He aggravated the injury a week later. In the fourth set, he did not win by grinding Rafa down in long rallies, but because of his accurate ballstriking and the fact that Rafa was literally dead after the third set.

MatchFederer
01-28-2012, 06:06 PM
Exactly, hence I find Nadal's implied tone to be a bit pot-ish.

Both players flag up their potential problems with devilish incandescent fury.

Logical
01-28-2012, 06:13 PM
Has your brain transplant operation been delayed yet again? If yes, no wonder. With all the demand from RN fans left, right and centre, there's bound to be a big queue.Doctors busy with FedullTards who are suffer by anxiety of Nadal-Novak final more then the fans of two finalists.:lol:

tennis2tennis
01-28-2012, 06:14 PM
stupid to say that, it is not as though Nadal brought this up himself. he was asked a SPECIFIC question. that would be like if you were a arrested for fraud earlier in life and i was a reporter interviewing you and I asked "what do you think about the actions of Bernie Madoff?" obviously you would have to criticize or point out his horrible bamboozling schemes. it would not make you a hypocrite as much as merely be an example of you answering a question

Are you seriously telling me humbilito is incapable of side-steping that question..especially that this interview was in originally in Spanish!

Ash86
01-28-2012, 06:57 PM
Are you seriously telling me humbilito is incapable of side-steping that question..especially that this interview was in originally in Spanish!

It wasn't in Spanish - it was in English. The question re: Novak's fitness is at 7:40:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdkT3VQyFV8&feature=player_embedded

To be honest seeing the body language it seems even more to me that Rafa isn't buying that Novak was very tired - seems even more sceptical... Still, nothing really wrong with what he said - he's clear Novak's allergy won't be affecting the match; just like Rafa's knee and shoulder won't be either - no excuses I think.

MuzzahLovah
01-28-2012, 07:30 PM
I love when everyone is right. Nadal is right that Djokovic's antics are inexplicable and inexcusable, and everyone here is right in deriding Nadal's antics. Hurray!

Kiedis
01-28-2012, 07:44 PM
BIG BREAK FOR FEDERER (AO 2010)

IT was a tale of two bathroom breaks – for Roger Federer his “comfort break” gave him the time to turn his match around against Nikolay Davydenko.

Federer was in trouble against speedy Russian Davydenko and, unable to pick the ball out in the brilliant sunshine of the late afternoon, he nipped off court for a few minutes in the hope the sun might have dipped a little by the time he returned.

He was right and, from a set and 3-1 down, he ran away with the next 13 games and headed for his 23rd consecutive Grand Slam semi-final, 2-6, 6-3, 6-0, 7-5.

“When the sun comes from the side, the ball seems half the size and is just hard to hit,” said Federer. “I never take toilet breaks but I thought why not? I just hoped that with every minute it took, the sun would move another centimetre.”

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/154619/Big-break-for-Federer

:rolleyes: Butt-hurtism, the worst disease of the fed-fangirls.

Kiedis
01-28-2012, 08:12 PM
:rolleyes: Butt-hurtism, the worst disease of the fed-fangirls.

A short illustration about this:

http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/3622/fedfanspricks.png

What a classy girls these FedsFan! :o

Will do something the mods this time or they simply continue allowing to certain fanbase having their bullying attitude? :o:o

Mr. Oracle
01-28-2012, 08:46 PM
It's interesting that most players can't help but make these comments against their biggest rivals--they all talk smack.

I cannot understand however the point he and some here are trying to make. What does it matter if someone breathes heavily or looks like they came out of surgery IN BETWEEN points? It seems petty to me.

MatchFederer
01-28-2012, 08:51 PM
Yeh, I don't understand the comment at all, especially coming from Nadal.

Mr. Oracle
01-28-2012, 08:53 PM
Case in point, I tend to frown even when happy which throws off a lot of people--these are physical habits which have nothing to do with the underlying reality. Let it go you petty wankers.

Kat_YYZ
01-28-2012, 08:57 PM
Nadal should stop talking. Period.

abraxas21
01-28-2012, 09:20 PM
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/154619/Big-break-for-Federer

:rolleyes: Butt-hurtism, the worst disease of the fed-fangirls.

only idiots would think he was serious with that

seriously, how much would the sun move in a couple of minutes anyhow?

nadulltards showing their intelligence once again :lol:

Kiedis
01-28-2012, 10:04 PM
only idiots would think he was serious with that

seriously, how much would the sun move in a couple of minutes anyhow?

nadulltards showing their intelligence once again :lol:

You are the true professional here at bitching about any random idiotic thing thats ocurrs on and off a tennis macth, and who takes too seriously every word when it comes to Rafa. Speaking of hypocrites ... :o

MatchFederer
01-28-2012, 10:05 PM
Who is excited yet for this final??? I'm started to get amped up!

SheepleBuster
01-28-2012, 10:07 PM
Haha. Nadal is an idiot. This is the guy who takes injury time outs to break the rhythm of his opponents. He is the guy who everyone knows what he is doing behind the scenes. He is the guy who has never lost a match fairly. It's always his leg or ass that is hurting. He is the guy who uses family excuses when he lost to Soderling at the French. I tell you. Tomorrow's match is 50 50 for me. But I hope Djokovic just embarrasses Nadal so this dark age of tennis is finally over

RagingLamb
01-28-2012, 10:09 PM
Like the time you broke your foot at wimbledon and made it all the way to the final? Strange indeed.

Nice to see him give tips to Murray about how to play Djokovic.

Rafa's the one person who's really figured that out.

Hope to hear more of these Gems in your speech at the end of your match tomorrow.

moon language
01-28-2012, 10:10 PM
If this article had a different headline the reaction here would be a lot different.

SheepleBuster
01-28-2012, 10:42 PM
Like the time you broke your foot at wimbledon and made it all the way to the final? Strange indeed.

Nice to see him give tips to Murray about how to play Djokovic.

Rafa's the one person who's really figured that out.

Hope to hear more of these Gems in your speech at the end of your match tomorrow.

Nadal is a coward. He put Roger under the bus then apologized and said, it was a mistake. Please. Rafa needs to just shut up. If this is his new way to gain advantage, it is ruining his saint like image he has been pushing.

LawrenceOfTennis
01-28-2012, 10:54 PM
Nadal knows better than anybody that Murray will never win a slam.
Just the usual talk,no? :lol:

duong
01-28-2012, 10:58 PM
What does this have to do with being humble or not? :confused:
He's just saying what he saw because the journalist asked him about it. Murray and anyone else who saw the match said the same thing so it's not something surprising or unexpected.

Because humbleness imo is being able to understand that the world is big and people are different, and accept it (and especially when you have been difficultly understood yourself about your strange habits :lol: )

If he can't accept that Djokovic is different in the way he said here but which had been observed already many times in his carreer before (I remember a match against Baghdatis in Wimbledon 2007 with so many ups and downs),

it's not what I would call humble.

But to be honest, in my opinion, this sentence isn't about Nadal's humbleness at all, it's a dig at Djokovic and just shows how much revenge feeling he has and that what Djokovic called "great relationship with Rafa" is completely wrong.

As is also the same with Federer : as a Swiss reporter (who loves Nadal) said, Fed was only the second player whom Nadal had attacked so much after Söderling in Wimbledon in the past :

his words about Federer just proved the real consideration he had for Federer, which was nothing like the words which his uncle had always told him about Fed.

Recently Nadal shows more what his real opinions are, and not only what his uncle says. And I think it's good that people know them at last. He has no good feelings to Fed at all, and he's come to utterly dislike Djokovic since losing so much.

Kiedis
01-28-2012, 11:01 PM
Hey Rafa, do you think Nole will be too tired to play the final?

Please Fedtards, enlighten the rest of us and provide below the correct answer at this question.

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MatchFederer
01-28-2012, 11:03 PM
Nadal: The Truth Exposed

tribalfusion
01-28-2012, 11:03 PM
Many here should relax and stop endlessly analyzing in thousands of posts the easily misread thoughts and offhand comments people you don't even know personally (and which they often said in languages they don't master).

I look forward to what I hope will be a great final.

MatchFederer
01-28-2012, 11:05 PM
Hey Rafa, do you think Nole will be too tired to play the final?

Please reasonable and pleasant people, enlighten the rest of us and provide below the correct answer at this question.

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''I think it's similar to my situation in 2009, no? I played long match, very long with Verdasco but I was able to recover to win the Final against Roger. Sure, I was little tired but it is not like US Open where you must play the final next day no? So, for sure, Novak will be a little bit tired maybe but I sure he will do his best to recover and we will play a very good match on Sunday. For sure, though, he's the favourite, but I try my best. I try my best.''

duong
01-28-2012, 11:05 PM
and in the post match interview yesterday nole once again said rafa and him are great friends. :)

not the first time...nole shows WAY too much respect for rafa. I mean, yes, he is a great fighter, but sometimes lacks personality. for example when he complained about nole celebrating his victory in madrid too much, there rafa really lost a lot of respect. what a fucking douche to say something like that? a person should be able to celebrate wherever and whenever he wants. if rafa feels offended then this says a lot about his character...

don't worry these are not Djokovic's real feelings about Nadal ;)

I think I heard he tried to "steal" his agent last year ?

Djokovic is just currently using the same "politically correct words" which Nadal had used for long, and which he's now slowly changing.

scarecrows
01-28-2012, 11:11 PM
''I think it's similar to my situation in 2009, no? I played long match, very long with Verdasco but I was able to recover to win the Final against Roger. Sure, I was little tired but it is not like US Open where you must play the final next day no? So, for sure, Novak will be a little bit tired maybe but I sure he will do his best to recover and we will play a very good match on Sunday. For sure, though, he's the favourite, but I try my best. I try my best.''

quality post once again

Kiedis
01-28-2012, 11:11 PM
''I think it's similar to my situation in 2009, no? I played long match, very long with Verdasco but I was able to recover to win the Final against Roger. Sure, I was little tired but it is not like US Open where you must play the final next day no? So, for sure, Novak will be a little bit tired maybe but I sure he will do his best to recover and we will play a very good match on Sunday. For sure, though, he's the favourite, but I try my best. I try my best.''

This is his a good summary of Rafa answer.

Lee
01-28-2012, 11:25 PM
don't worry these are not Djokovic's real feelings about Nadal ;)

I think I heard he tried to "steal" his agent last year ?

Djokovic is just currently using the same "politically correct words" which Nadal had used for long, and which he's now slowly changing.

No. They had the same agent for a while but with Nole's winning streak, the agent dumped Nole citing he was too busy to handle the rising demands for Nole. :p

Corey Feldman
01-28-2012, 11:52 PM
http://i.imgur.com/wrOsg.jpg

Good one, Rafa :haha::lol:

Kiedis
01-29-2012, 12:03 AM
^^

Asked after the match if he had any counsel for Murray on Friday, Nadal answered that he should play “more aggressive than usual” against Djokovic.

“That’s my advice,” Nadal said, “but my advice is probably not very good, because I lost the last six times against him.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/27/sports/tennis/nadal-defeats-federer-again-to-move-to-australian-open-final.html

Why so serious?

xargon
01-29-2012, 12:19 AM
Personally think that's just Novak's style - not done deliberately to put off his opponent, but just like Andy likes to moan, Novak likes to look at death's door and then roar back...

Actually Martina and the guy she was commentatiing with said something about that same thing. They said Nole reminded them of Pete Sampras, with looking dead and coming back to win. LOL

Matt01
01-29-2012, 12:43 AM
faking clown calling out another faking clown

too funny


Speaking of clowns: Go away. You are just another pathetic, pressed and miserable hater. :wavey:

ballbasher101
01-29-2012, 12:58 AM
Watching the match again.. I have to admit the whole "injury and breathing" crap is strange. Remember the USO, Nole looks like hes on deaths door.. Nadal gets the momentum in the match finally and Nole calls the medical timeout to do stretches and shit to take the momentum away from Nadal. Then Nole is miraculously just fine for the 4th set at the USO.

Neither of these guys is perfect. I can't bear the play acting of Novak though.


:haha:. The guy was balling in first serves in that 4th set and going for broke in rallies and you still say he was faking :confused:. Djoker's fake injuries in the past used to bug me but the guy has improved. Give him credit. He does need to improve his I'm so tired feel sorry me look in matches.

rickcastle
01-29-2012, 01:10 AM
You were referring that the posters here on MTF don't fake injuries when playing tennis, thus they are not hypocritical? lol...


I'll admit that Rafa pointing out the fact that Nole was acting is hypocritical, but you're losing it here.

Yes. Because GSMNadal was saying that Nadal was just saying what MTF posters were saying too about Djokovic so I poointed out that since MTF posters are not pro players and do not engage in similar behavior that it is not hypocritical for us to say so. You're the one losing it and obviously has poor reading comprehension.

MuzzahLovah
01-29-2012, 03:20 AM
http://i.imgur.com/wrOsg.jpg

Good one, Rafa :haha:

So he speaks from experience :haha:

Zare1
01-29-2012, 03:39 AM
djokovic was dead after the third set against murray, he just faked his freshness and shots

Outfielder
01-29-2012, 03:47 AM
Nice way to motivate Djokovic even more.

+1

Crisstti
01-29-2012, 03:56 AM
Rafa would only be hypocritical if he indeed fakes injuries. Which he doesn't. But of course the haters think otherwise.

MatchFederer
01-29-2012, 03:58 AM
Rafa would only be hypocritical if he indeed fakes injuries. Which he doesn't. But of course the haters think otherwise.

Oh I see, you're saying Nole faked an injury against Murray?

Mountaindewslave
01-29-2012, 04:04 AM
If this article had a different headline the reaction here would be a lot different.

yes true, people on here are such fools. Nadal is attacked for saying out loud something they all thought at one point or another.

just because Nadal has the same flaw he is pointing out does not mean he should not point it out when addressed; if anything it gives him even more reason to take note of it... esspecially when it is a reporter who is bringing it up

Crisstti
01-29-2012, 04:20 AM
Oh I see, you're saying Nole faked an injury against Murray?

No.

MatchFederer
01-29-2012, 04:22 AM
No.

And so then how is it at all tied to hypocrisy... it isn't the issue in the first place. The issue is Nole being a grade A actor.

Nadal is also a grade A actor in the hamming up of all his problems in such clear and regurgitated repetitive tones to the media and by extension the public. So, in that sense he can certainly be viewed as hypocritical.

Crisstti
01-29-2012, 04:25 AM
And so then how is it at all tied to hypocrisy... it isn't the issue in the first place. The issue is Nole being a grade A actor.

Nadal is also a grade A actor in the hamming up of all his problems in such clear and regurgitated repetitive tones to the media and by extension the public. So, in that sense he can certainly be viewed as hypocritical.

What's the acting in that?.

MatchFederer
01-29-2012, 04:29 AM
What's the acting in that?.

Muhahaaa.. :D :D

The acting is all in the hypochondria. Nole isn't as tired as he makes out and makes a huge fuss about it. Nadal has some small problems and makes a huge fuss about it. Both have a talented and consistent history in these pursuits, so naturally, revered grade A actor Nadal is in a good place to come out with some left field (in relation to his usual persona) speculative jibes regarding Novak Djokovic, also a grade A actor. All in all it adds up handsomely to some exquisitely performed hypocrisy, however, his random alter ego persona certainly brings up possibly true points regarding the Djokster.

ssin
01-29-2012, 06:22 AM
Seems that whoever loses will be injured for sure.

paseo
01-29-2012, 06:32 AM
Seems that whoever loses will be injured for sure.

lol

Nadal has finally met his match.

tennis2tennis
01-29-2012, 06:35 AM
can we all agree that....they both fake injury! they both take too long to serve! and niether guy likes to call himself the favourite when they clearly are...but I think Rafa has slowly started to shed his fake nice humble guy tag and started trash talking his apponents even if its suttle...

The Pro
01-29-2012, 09:37 AM
And so then how is it at all tied to hypocrisy... it isn't the issue in the first place. The issue is Nole being a grade A actor.

Nadal is also a grade A actor in the hamming up of all his problems in such clear and regurgitated repetitive tones to the media and by extension the public. So, in that sense he can certainly be viewed as hypocritical.

Showing your bias there mate :rolleyes: