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Murray checks out again ?

Allez
01-27-2012, 02:57 PM
It's become something of a tradition...Murray loses at the Australian Open and then mentally checks out for months on end losing to players with no business of being on the tour etc. I wonder if we'll see the same this year given how close he was to winning that semi...I sure hope not and hopefully Lendl will get him to refocus really quick. He did admirably well against the number 1 player in the world. To get down on himself now would be suicide :(

LawrenceOfTennis
01-27-2012, 02:59 PM
I said the same. i'm sure he will have a terrible hard court season. He will probably have a better clay court season with losses to top 3. Won't win anything big this year, book it.

TheRafaelNadal
01-27-2012, 03:04 PM
Murray right now is the 2nd best player in the world. I have been harsh on him over the years but he's showed he can outplay djoker and expose him for a faking fluking fraud. If Nadal gets injured or misses tournaments Murray should win those. Good job Muzza taking Nole to 5 sets. Now lets see what this faker does against El Matador.

finishingmove
01-27-2012, 03:06 PM
He came close to beating Djokovic and he's gonna keep pushing this year to threaten the #1 ranking, under the guidance of Lendl.

NID
01-27-2012, 03:06 PM
He did not check out. He clawed his way back into the fifth set, but it wasn't to be this time.
Stop bashing the guy.

swebright
01-27-2012, 03:14 PM
Lendl will keep him under leash. I think he can tolerate for 1 year; after this he will revolt!

Lendle won't even allow him to practise with Nole or Rafa. Keeping him away from the fun ! I think Lendl even banned Mama Judy and only Kim Sears close to him.

m9m9m9m9m9
01-27-2012, 03:21 PM
I dont believe he will, there are LOTS more positive things to take after this match comparing to last 2 years.
Plus, Lendl won't allow him to do so

Captain Piranha
01-27-2012, 03:30 PM
Fought brilliantly, almost won. Great match, he's getting better & muturing. He must continue to believe, nobody else coming through comes close to the level I saw tonight. Regardless of statements about Nole being under par etc, he crushes everyone else.

I like Rafa, but hope Nole disposses him in the final. Novak is the best just now.

Andy is getting there though :)

Roddickominator
01-27-2012, 03:30 PM
Agreed that Lendl isn't gonna put up with Murray checking out....Lendl isn't going to waste his time on a guy that isn't focused and giving full effort. Murray is a very stubborn guy but I don't think he would tune Lendl out so quickly, especially after a competitive result like this.

Captain Piranha
01-27-2012, 03:30 PM
Oh, I don't expect the mental post Aussie Open walkabout this year. Be positive Andy :)

Clay Death
01-27-2012, 03:32 PM
he has work to do. its just that simple.

Singularity
01-27-2012, 03:33 PM
After last years slump, Murray reached 3 GS semis and won 2 TMS tournaments. Not bad really.

Dougie
01-27-2012, 03:35 PM
If anything, this loss should motivate him to work extra hard, it should be easier than 0-3 loss in the final. With Lendl, I´m sure he will do just that.

Roddickominator
01-27-2012, 03:36 PM
He will be fine as long as he can avoid Donald Young.

r3d_d3v1l_
01-27-2012, 03:43 PM
This loss is completely different than last year´s.

yesh222
01-27-2012, 03:56 PM
I didn't think he'll check out. This was very different than his last two losses. In the past two years he played terribly in his loss. He was the second-best player in the World in his loss last night, he just happened to be playing the best.

rocketassist
01-27-2012, 04:43 PM
He should be better for the Rotterdam/IW/Miami stretch.

MuzzahLovah
01-27-2012, 05:06 PM
I would find this loss more devastating than last year's, but I'm not Lendl so I hoping he comebacks and makes a good run at the next master or two.

Allez
01-27-2012, 05:23 PM
I am encouraged by what Murray said after the match particularly this...

"I think that gap, I feel tonight I closed it," said the world number four.

"My job over the next two or three months is to surpass him [Djokovic] and the guys in front of me."

ballbasher101
01-27-2012, 05:44 PM
It's become something of a tradition...Murray loses at the Australian Open and then mentally checks out for months on end losing to players with no business of being on the tour etc. I wonder if we'll see the same this year given how close he was to winning that semi...I sure hope not and hopefully Lendl will get him to refocus really quick. He did admirably well against the number 1 player in the world. To get down on himself now would be suicide :(


You could not have said it any better. He should not feel sorry for himself. He should get angry and work on improving his new found positive attacking play. He was impressive today. He played grandslam winning tennis. He is nearly there, only needs the luck now.

tektonac
01-27-2012, 06:56 PM
he checks out with the draw that turned out to be a cupcake one! he was way way fresher then novak in this SF, who had to battle inspired hewitt and david "pitbull" ferrer.

solowyn
01-27-2012, 07:29 PM
Post Match:

"I'm a different player and have a different attitude to this time last year. I'm proud of the way I fought".

r3d_d3v1l_
01-27-2012, 07:45 PM
I would find this loss more devastating than last year's, but I'm not Lendl so I hoping he comebacks and makes a good run at the next master or two.

Why would that be?

It was a semifinal, not a final. He fought in 5 setters against the best player in the world, having chances to serve it out in the fifth, when i last year he was completely dominated by Djokovic. Even tough his serve wasn´t sharp, he still managed to serve big in crucial moments, mainly when facing BP´s. His forehand looked really good and he even managed to hit more forehand winners than Djokovic.

There´s so much positive to take from this match, that it´s impossible that would be more devastating to him than last year´s loss in the final.

RagingLamb
01-27-2012, 07:47 PM
Based on some of the comments he made in the post match, some of which are summarized on the ATP site (here (http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2012/01/4/Australian-Open-Friday-Murray-Reaction-To-Djokovic-Loss.aspx)), I thin we can expect a whole different Murray from now on.

Sounds like he has a lot of self belief and thinks he can do it. He seems also to acknowledge that he can and wants to play more aggressively than the previous years.

Captain Piranha
01-27-2012, 07:51 PM
Why would that be?

It was a semifinal, not a final. He fought in 5 setters against the best player in the world, having chances to serve it out in the fifth, when i last year he was completely dominated by Djokovic. Even tough his serve wasn´t sharp, he still managed to serve big in crucial moments, mainly when facing BP´s. His forehand looked really good and he even managed to hit more forehand winners than Djokovic.

There´s so much positive to take from this match, that it´s impossible that would be more devastating to him than last year´s loss in the final.

Agree completely. Regardless of of some opinion on Nole's performance. Would anyone have predicted the winner count to be close between them on evidence of last year, especially forehand side?

Room for improvement, serve in particular. But he's getting there :)

Last year was horrible!!!

shmeeko69
01-27-2012, 08:01 PM
After today's performance I do honestly believe that, Murray will win a grand slam and especially with the guidance of Lendl (if they don't fall out).

martyn
01-27-2012, 08:19 PM
Rather than slumping, this next couple of months is a critical time as the Murray/Lendl relationship develops so I can't see Muzz being allowed to take a mental holiday.

The improvement in attitude and willingness to play more aggressively in such a short space of time is encouraging, and his execution should continue to become more consistent.

RafaNadal2012!!!
01-27-2012, 08:55 PM
I think Murray'll be fine, he should some fine attacking tennis and good play today he just choked at the key moment at 5-5 15-40

Topspindoctor
01-28-2012, 02:59 AM
Muzza will defend his Bangkok title :sport:

emotion
01-28-2012, 03:40 AM
For me, this would crush me much more than straight sets loss in final. But seems otherwise for him from what I've seen.

Hewitt =Legend
01-28-2012, 03:42 AM
He won't.

Mr. Lendl won't allow it.

Mae
01-28-2012, 03:43 AM
Agreed that Lendl isn't gonna put up with Murray checking out....Lendl isn't going to waste his time on a guy that isn't focused and giving full effort. Murray is a very stubborn guy but I don't think he would tune Lendl out so quickly, especially after a competitive result like this.

I hope you are 100% right about this!

Mountaindewslave
01-28-2012, 03:53 AM
Murray right now is the 2nd best player in the world. I have been harsh on him over the years but he's showed he can outplay djoker and expose him for a faking fluking fraud. If Nadal gets injured or misses tournaments Murray should win those. Good job Muzza taking Nole to 5 sets. Now lets see what this faker does against El Matador.

how is Murray the second best player in the world when not only is he ranked #4 but he is certainly worse than Nadal and DJokovic and very likely worse than Federer??

Mountaindewslave
01-28-2012, 03:56 AM
oh no way does he check out. he was points away from winning this match!

last year he choked and played badly pure and simple.

this year Murray played great but was beaten in 5 really tight sets to the best player in the world???

if anything this motivates him and he has one of the best post-Australia HC season he has ever had and brings that into clay

definitely not at all like last year

Horatio Caine
01-28-2012, 11:25 AM
Yeah, it is an interesting question. However, I believe that there are three compelling reasons why Muzza will avoid a slump this time around:

(1) - the Lendl factor. Unless I'm wrong, Lendl is virtually a full-time coach, and I don't see him allowing Murray to lose focus like that. They both know the work he needs to put in to close the gap on the top 3, and I believe that they will get down to business immediately. Furthermore, Lendl's W/L ratio on the tour says it all: 1071-239. He wasn't in the habit of gifting away matches to players he should ordinarily beat, and I think he'll make it clear to Murray that his goal is to win every match.

(2) - after the Djokovic match, Murray said he felt like he'd closed some of the gap on the top guys. He wasn't despondent, as he was the previous season(s). I think that he is in a more positive frame of mind with his tennis, and also in his off-court life. That wasn't the case 12 months ago and, without a coach, he was almost lacking a little in direction and purpose.

(3) - his scheduling. Murray opted to play Brisbane in the opening week of the season - obviously to get some proper match fitness, but I also believe it was so that he could wind down his schedule towards the end of the season. He has also entered Dubai 500 in the lead-up to IW and Miami, and will probably opt for Monte Carlo to kick off the European clay court season. Previously, he had experimented in these events, wasting his own time and an opportunity to amass easy points. However, by focusing on actually winning these tournaments, he wouldn't need to enter such events later in the season as he'd have already earned the points. I firmly believe that this is his intention this season, especially as the top players (himself included) continue to argue about the length of the season.

Allez
01-28-2012, 12:15 PM
To be honest I do not think the length of the season is as big an issue for Murray as it is for someone like a Nadal or a Djokovic for that matter. His game is not nearly as physical. I believe he will still enter tournaments towards the latter stages of the season irrespective of how he does in the first half of the season...With the possible exception of Bangkok I can see him entering all the significant post USO tournaments.

The work he puts into his tennis and attitude in the next couple of months should strictly have Wimbledon and the USO as the target prizes. Reaching the semis in all three remaining slams last year was great but going one or two better this year will has got to be his and Lendl's goal. Basically there is no time to go on a walkabout this time around. Not if he is to overcome Nole and especially Nadal...