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Tomic painful to watch

KrisJB
01-16-2012, 01:37 PM
Maybe this kid is efficient but the way he plays - continental forehand grip, shaky movement, too few winners, too much waiting for errors, makes him really unattractive to be watched. I begin to worry when he starts winning too much, I will have to switch off TV too quickly...

cobalt60
01-16-2012, 01:38 PM
He is young; hopefully he can learn some aggressiveness when it counts. But that's tennis these days according to MTF- the pusher generation. I blame the courts.:p
But then again that's why I enjoy watching the player in your avatar;)

LawrenceOfTennis
01-16-2012, 01:39 PM
Since last AO, I'm trying to copy his forehand whenever I play tennis. It's a fantastic shot in my opinion. Backhand looks good. He has great slice. Many people won't like his style though. But I guess more people like it than those who don't.

Certinfy
01-16-2012, 01:39 PM
Not a fan of his game either, it's ugly. That along with his personality and I think it's fair to say I'm not a fan and I'll never be a fan.

rinnegan
01-16-2012, 01:39 PM
It doesn't help that he's such an arrogant prick.

abraxas21
01-16-2012, 01:41 PM
i actually prefer tomic's strange and unique game to djokovic's generic brand of tennis.

tektonac
01-16-2012, 02:22 PM
i actually prefer tomic's strange and unique game to djokovic's generic brand of tennis.

like someone fucking care what you prefer ;)

The_Djoker
01-16-2012, 02:23 PM
I just don't like his face.

FedererBulgaria
01-16-2012, 02:26 PM
His game,his face,only one WORD - ugly!!!

Leo
01-16-2012, 02:27 PM
I couldn't disagree more. I've been very intrigued by his game since I saw him match up against Djokovic in last year's Wimbledon QF (great match). Maybe one day I will get bored of it, but I am not so sure. He possesses fantastic natural timing and a smoothness reminiscent of Mecir. Not to the same extent and not the same natural talent, but he plays about as much like Mecir as a big tall guy in 2012 can play. His style of play is admirably efficient and he can generate so much pace with just a simple flick of the wrist because his timing is so good.

Keep improving, Bernard.

GasquetFan
01-16-2012, 02:27 PM
His game,his face,only one WORD - ugly!!!

You forgot personality. :wavey:

petar_pan
01-16-2012, 02:32 PM
Maybe this kid is efficient but the way he plays - continental forehand grip, shaky movement, too few winners, too much waiting for errors, makes him really unattractive to be watched. I begin to worry when he starts winning too much, I will have to switch off TV too quickly...

Beside Federer evebody others are pushers from the top-players.

ossie
01-16-2012, 02:32 PM
he is like a better version of berdych, that must be why his game is so ugly.

FedererBulgaria
01-16-2012, 02:33 PM
You forgot personality. :wavey:

ohhh i didnt say about his personality,because UGLY is a weak word to describe it ;)

rinnegan
01-16-2012, 02:34 PM
Beside Federer evebody others are pushers from the top-players.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-D-hs5GmwCcM/TfrS89sxSJI/AAAAAAAAAKg/u6HkP6iqqMY/s1600/ww-bitch-please.gif

EddceLLent
01-16-2012, 02:34 PM
What's painful to watch is Verdasco's hideous outfit!

rinnegan
01-16-2012, 02:37 PM
What's painful to watch is Verdasco's hideous outfit!

http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/p/sp/getty/98/fullj.1fb694ca85952ae347a45de222db175a/1fb694ca85952ae347a45de222db175a-getty-508214791.jpg

EddceLLent
01-16-2012, 02:45 PM
Haha amazing, it's just horrendous!!

My favourite tweet of day one at the Australian Open was this:

SI_BTBaseline Beyond The Baseline
Verdasco looks like he was run over by a gigantic highlighter.
14 hours ago

justafanYYC
01-16-2012, 02:48 PM
I enjoy his style. The forehand on the final point was really sweet.

Leo
01-16-2012, 02:49 PM
he is like a better version of berdych, that must be why his game is so ugly.

No way.

FedererBulgaria
01-16-2012, 02:51 PM
His forehand is like Tsvetana Pironkova`s FH :D but with much more power
PS Too bad he has not her perfect BH :D :angel:

MaxPower
01-16-2012, 02:56 PM
Maybe this kid is efficient but the way he plays - continental forehand grip, shaky movement, too few winners, too much waiting for errors, makes him really unattractive to be watched. I begin to worry when he starts winning too much, I will have to switch off TV too quickly...

Agree. But I think he lacks some physical strength too. He was definitely outmuscled by Verdasco last match and usually is because he is tall but doesn't seem very strong. Maybe that's why he does his best to frustrate the opponent and not giving much for free. It's smart but yes it's oh so boring. If he could bulk up a few kgs maybe he grows more confident in his own offense.



http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/p/sp/getty/98/fullj.1fb694ca85952ae347a45de222db175a/1fb694ca85952ae347a45de222db175a-getty-508214791.jpg

OT but I'm pretty sure the spanish team got a running bet who can get away with the worst outfit. Ferrer's pink shirt in London was really bad. Then Verdasco said "challenge accepted" and tried to top it. Now the ball is in Nadal's corner.

Slice Winner
01-16-2012, 03:36 PM
Since when does Tomic use a continental on his FH? (Except volleys, slices).
AFAIK, it's an eastern.

Forehander
01-16-2012, 03:39 PM
Im wif u mate

finishingmove
01-16-2012, 03:42 PM
Haha amazing, it's just horrendous!!

My favourite tweet of day one at the Australian Open was this:

SI_BTBaseline Beyond The Baseline
Verdasco looks like he was run over by a gigantic highlighter.
14 hours ago

:haha:

nadejda
01-16-2012, 03:43 PM
that's indeed true, Tomic is quite boring to watch albeit effective.
If we have to watch this guy for the years to come this will putt me off :rolleyes:

Sauletekis
01-16-2012, 03:55 PM
You know you are doing good and you have a bright future ahead of you, when rou're 19 years old, and MTF clowns already boils hate on you...

BTW, if I had that GIF saying "Deal with it" that's what I would put here.

Sham Kay
01-16-2012, 03:59 PM
Bernie's game, personality and looks can heal the sickly.

If watching a tennis player play tennis is painful, you're obviously watching it wrong.

Sham Kay
01-16-2012, 04:03 PM
BTW, if I had that GIF saying "Deal with it" that's what I would put here.

I'll have to do it in NardDog's place.


http://i.imgur.com/YsVDu.gif

FedererBulgaria
01-16-2012, 04:21 PM
Since when does Tomic use a continental on his FH? (Except volleys, slices).
AFAIK, it's an eastern.

He just dream for Pironkova`s slice FH :angel:

misty1
01-16-2012, 04:23 PM
im just surprised bernard didnt need shades playing verdasco..the outfit could have caused some serious sun blindness

tennisfan856
01-16-2012, 04:26 PM
I just feel like he plays in slow motion, and if he were to run into another consistent counter-puncher, it would end up being a very painful match to watch. I only find him interesting when I know his opponent has the capability of exploiting his junk game.

nole_no1
01-16-2012, 05:05 PM
Thank you for opening this thread

Now I know I'm not the only one who thinks this way :worship:

nadejda
01-16-2012, 05:06 PM
you surely are not the only one...

LleytonMonfils
01-16-2012, 05:20 PM
Wait Tomic is boring to watch because he uses variety? Weird. Sure his strokes might be ugly but his forehand stroke is one of the easiest simplest strokes. Doesn't have to be pretty. It's effective and for people saying the kid can't be aggressive, that's a lie. He doesn't have Monfils like ground stroke power, but he reminds me a lot of Monfils where he'll lull his opponent to sleep and then all of a sudden rip a shot for a winner. He's good at his game of cat and mouse.

THE MAGICIAN 2.0!

Tomic is much more entertaining to watch than a guy like Verdasco who is as brainless as they come. Has no idea how to formulate a point and when things get tough he just tries to hit the ball harder. Yea real entertaining. To each their own.

iPaparazzo
01-16-2012, 05:29 PM
His movement isn't shaky...he's not fast but his anticipation is great which allows him to get to balls. And his slice backhand :hearts:

:drive:

Mountaindewslave
01-16-2012, 05:34 PM
what nonsense OP hahahha, i get maybe thinking he plays strangely, and at moments (when is is not playing at his best), Tomic can be boring, but in general he is an interesting guy to watch!

esspecially to see how his game alternates with totally opposite styles he faces. come on his lazy way of moving around can be boring but it's also interesting because it looks so strange! and the way you never know if he is going to just hit a lame slice or suddenly hit a winner.

Tomic has a fascinating game of surprise because he is hard to read. I disagree 100% with the OP. if Tomic was playing by himself it would be quite boring but given the fact that he almost always will be playing against someone with a completely different style, he is fun to watch

Sham Kay
01-16-2012, 05:36 PM
Thank you for opening this thread

Now I know I'm not the only one who thinks this way :worship:

Don't worry mate. You've found a home in MTF. There are tons of people here who share all your glorious opinions. Just another reason this place needs to employ a professional psychologist to deliver some urgent mass treatment.

Smoke944
01-16-2012, 05:42 PM
Since last AO, I'm trying to copy his forehand whenever I play tennis. It's a fantastic shot in my opinion. Backhand looks good. He has great slice. Many people won't like his style though. But I guess more people like it than those who don't.

:lol:

I'm sorry you're not serious right?

:lol:

LleytonMonfils
01-16-2012, 05:44 PM
Don't worry mate. You've found a home in MTF. There are tons of people here who share all your glorious opinions. Just another reason this place needs to employ a professional psychologist to deliver some urgent mass treatment.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lEdu9wUJAJ4/TglIY7guF4I/AAAAAAAAALc/X1IMuYS3JW0/s1600/itsnotatumo128513255085468750.jpg

v-money
01-16-2012, 05:53 PM
I think his game is fine when he is not trying to junkball the opponent to death. His swing motion is relatively flat like Del Potro, which makes him look a bit robotic, imo. He obviously doesn't hit it nearly as hard as Delpo, but he has heavy groundstrokes when he is going for his shots, and he has more variety than Delpo, because he slices more, hits more dropshots and comes to net more often. He just has to balance the power shots with the finesse game and he could be a versatile and entertaining player. The one other flaw that makes his game look awkward is poor movement, and as tennisfan856 said, it makes him look like he's moving in slow motion, but guys his size (like Soderling, Del Potro, or Berdych), sometimes look awkward in the movement department.

I'm generally not a fan of players who are just big hitters from the baseline and at least Tomic has potential to be more than that. His attitude is the major problem for me not liking him.

FedererBulgaria
01-16-2012, 05:56 PM
what nonsense OP hahahha, i get maybe thinking he plays strangely, and at moments (when is is not playing at his best), Tomic can be boring, but in general he is an interesting guy to watch!

esspecially to see how his game alternates with totally opposite styles he faces. come on his lazy way of moving around can be boring but it's also interesting because it looks so strange! and the way you never know if he is going to just hit a lame slice or suddenly hit a winner.

Tomic has a fascinating game of surprise because he is hard to read. I disagree 100% with the OP. if Tomic was playing by himself it would be quite boring but given the fact that he almost always will be playing against someone with a completely different style, he is fun to watch

ohhh he moves...really? Watching him i can fall asleep ..he just walk like he is walking at the park so boringgggg booooooo

r3d_d3v1l_
01-16-2012, 06:02 PM
I love the sting of his shots.

MuzzahLovah
01-16-2012, 06:04 PM
His game is odd but his personality is horrific. Against any player that can expose his movement and doesn't flip his shit when he sees a slice, he hasn't got a prayer.

philosophicalarf
01-16-2012, 06:15 PM
Couldn't disagree more - he's terrific to watch. Unorthodox, hard to read for opponents, lots of variety. He's really something special.

Hypnotize
01-16-2012, 06:18 PM
His game is effective and I like the way he changes pace but he's quite ugly to watch. Winning matches is what counts and you don't get extra points for style but I haven't managed to sit through a whole one of his matches yet because of how dull his game is. He's still young though so there's a chance it might develop into something more appealing in the future and I would rather watch him than a servebot like Raonic any day.

Mateya
01-16-2012, 06:19 PM
I can't decide who has an uglier forehand: Cilic or Tomic?
It really is a hillarious stroke, some sort of flat slap of the ball.

The rest of his game looks ok, I like his variety and he's definetly not boring to watch. Far more interesting than Del Potro, Berdych and similar ballbashers.

However, I'll never be a fan of this dude. Wouldn't go with him if he's the last man on earth.
:wavey:

philosophicalarf
01-16-2012, 06:21 PM
I can't decide who has an uglier forehand: Cilic or Tomic?
It really is a hillarious stroke, some sort of flat slap of the ball.



Yes, it's not pretty - but watch the opponent. Cilic overpowers people, but the opponent tends to know where it's going, they just have to get there.

Tomic, by contrast, often leaves opponents totally flat-footed. He has that rare talent of completely spoofing an opponent.

nadejda
01-16-2012, 06:22 PM
His game is effective and I like the way he changes pace but he's quite ugly to watch. Winning matches is what counts and you don't get extra points for style but I haven't managed to sit through a whole one of his matches yet because of how dull his game is. He's still young though so there's a chance it might develop into something more appealing in the future and I would rather watch him than a servebot like Raonic any day.

amen to that :worship:

Certinfy
01-16-2012, 06:36 PM
The rest of his game looks ok, I like his variety and he's definetly not boring to watch. Far more interesting than Del Potro, Berdych and similar ballbashers.
I can't believe I ever liked you :bigcry:

tennisfan856
01-16-2012, 07:05 PM
There was a forehand he drilled into the baseline on his last service game of the match. If he could just do that more often to mix up his pace, sign me up. That shot was a thing of beauty.

Mateya
01-16-2012, 07:30 PM
I can't believe I ever liked you :bigcry:

don't cry :hug:

I didn't mean it like that :hug:
Berdych and DelPo are good to watch, but Tomic with his strange brand of tennis is more interesting. Not pretty, but interesting.
That's all. :)

martinatreue
01-16-2012, 08:05 PM
I think Verdasco's strokes are uglier. His backhand looks very forced and his forehand can't be flattened out really nor can he deal effectively with low, short shots. His game looks too spinny. Bernie's game can take a lot of pace and then accelerate massively plus it's much harder to read. I like this element of surprise and variety much more than repetitive topspin baseline bashing :)

Jimnik
01-16-2012, 08:14 PM
Have to agree with the thread title.

latso
01-16-2012, 08:25 PM
What you don't want, waiting for an exciting match to start - Simon - Tomic on the same court right before...

This could be dangerous for one's sanity..

tommyg6
01-16-2012, 08:26 PM
How come Australia has a habit of producing ass***** for top players? Hewitt for example is a prick.

Sauletekis
01-16-2012, 08:28 PM
I wonder why the majority of posters in this thread are from Bulgaria. Jealous anyone?

HKz
01-16-2012, 08:32 PM
I think he has an interesting and unique game. Sure, I don't like his attitude that much, but it is sort of like Hewitt was in his early days. Hewitt has a much better personality, but Tomic will still be a great character on-court. He doesn't move that fast, but he seems to read the game very well as he is at every ball.

v-money
01-16-2012, 08:40 PM
I think Verdasco's strokes are uglier. His backhand looks very forced and his forehand can't be flattened out really nor can he deal effectively with low, short shots. His game looks too spinny. Bernie's game can take a lot of pace and then accelerate massively plus it's much harder to read. I like this element of surprise and variety much more than repetitive topspin baseline bashing :)

This thread shows perfectly that people have different aesthetic preferences in tennis styles. For some Tomic may be difficult to watch while others may like his unorthodox style. This thread should just be titled "Do you like Bernard Tomic?"

MatchFederer
01-16-2012, 08:45 PM
I couldn't disagree more. I've been very intrigued by his game since I saw him match up against Djokovic in last year's Wimbledon QF (great match). Maybe one day I will get bored of it, but I am not so sure. He possesses fantastic natural timing and a smoothness reminiscent of Mecir. Not to the same extent and not the same natural talent, but he plays about as much like Mecir as a big tall guy in 2012 can play. His style of play is admirably efficient and he can generate so much pace with just a simple flick of the wrist because his timing is so good.

Keep improving, Bernard.

Find Tomic to be more talented than Mecir and expect it to be proven in time. He's incredibly natural and extremely clever.

latso
01-16-2012, 08:45 PM
I wonder why the majority of posters in this thread are from Bulgaria. Jealous anyone?
that's a wild read on the word "majority"... :D

i'm only jealous of not having a slam in Sofia...nor a...wait, we have one challenger http://forum.bettingadvice.com/images/smilies/facepalmua8.gif

Nah, can't be jealous of Tomic. There will always be a certain part of the season played on clay... :cool:

MatchFederer
01-16-2012, 08:47 PM
ohhh he moves...really? Watching him i can fall asleep ..he just walk like he is walking at the park so boringgggg booooooo

You scare Tomic is gonna overshadow same generation Grisho? It's just that your manner is so emphatic but really, Tomic shall win that battle!:devil:

Sombrerero loco
01-16-2012, 09:02 PM
i dont agree with this.i find bernie´s game really entertaining

EddceLLent
01-16-2012, 09:04 PM
You know you are doing good and you have a bright future ahead of you, when rou're 19 years old, and MTF clowns already boils hate on you..

That awkward moment when you think you see a bright future, but then you realise you're actually just looking at Verdasco's shirt

MatchFederer
01-16-2012, 09:06 PM
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Hewitt =Legend
01-16-2012, 09:10 PM
We are all so lucky to be a part of B-Nard's rise to the top of the tennis echelon.

Slice Winner
01-16-2012, 09:14 PM
that's a wild read on the word "majority"... :D

i'm only jealous of not having a slam in Sofia...nor a...wait, we have one challenger http://forum.bettingadvice.com/images/smilies/facepalmua8.gif

Nah, can't be jealous of Tomic. There will always be a certain part of the season played on clay... :cool:

He meant 'super majority'.

Game.Petzschner
01-16-2012, 09:19 PM
Not a fan of his game either, it's ugly. That along with his personality and I think it's fair to say I'm not a fan and I'll never be a fan.
agreed

fast_clay
01-16-2012, 09:22 PM
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/patma2003/si4.gif

Maybe this kid is efficient but the way he plays - continental forehand grip, shaky movement, too few winners, too much waiting for errors, makes him really unattractive to be watched. I begin to worry when he starts winning too much, I will have to switch off TV too quickly...

wtf...? continental forehand grip...? :spit:

i'm sure most posters in mtf are not able to talk at any length about differing grips players are using, but i am here to tell you that the poster starting this thread is pretending to look like he knows what he is talking about but hilariously does not...

anyone who has agreed with the above quoted post is also full of sh!t... come on... agreeing with someone who is talking out his rectal cavity...? :haha:

How come Australia has a habit of producing ass***** for top players? Hewitt for example is a prick.

people loved pat rafter because he embodied everything we would like to be...

hewitt and tomic are who we are... so f**k off...

MatchFederer
01-16-2012, 09:29 PM
sgethsWuOV8

Love it.

KrisJB
01-16-2012, 09:50 PM
fast_clay, do you know Stefan Edberg?

leng jai
01-16-2012, 09:55 PM
B-bard is horrible to watch but no doubt a good player. MIMIC the faker tard calling him a clueless tactician couldn't be further from the truth - his tennis IQ is the best part of his game. The forehand technique is some of the worst shit I've ever seen but it's ridiculously consistent. Defies physics

addison
01-16-2012, 10:03 PM
I can't decide who has an uglier forehand: Cilic or Tomic?


BTW Where is Cilic?

Gagsquet
01-16-2012, 10:05 PM
So what they get drunk
So what they smoke weed
They're just having fun
In supporting Tomic

cocrcici
01-16-2012, 10:08 PM
Couldn't disagree more - he's terrific to watch. Unorthodox, hard to read for opponents, lots of variety. He's really something special.

+1

green25814
01-16-2012, 10:10 PM
Tomic is incredibly talented. Still needs to mature though.

MatchFederer
01-16-2012, 10:10 PM
B-bard is horrible to watch but no doubt a good player. MIMIC the faker tard calling him a clueless tactician couldn't be further from the truth - his tennis IQ is the best part of his game. The forehand technique is some of the worst shit I've ever seen but it's ridiculously consistent. Defies physics

Balanced, balanced.

latso
01-16-2012, 10:12 PM
B-bard is horrible to watch but no doubt a good player. MIMIC the faker tard calling him a clueless tactician couldn't be further from the truth - his tennis IQ is the best part of his game. The forehand technique is some of the worst shit I've ever seen but it's ridiculously consistent. Defies physics

Spot on.

Reminds of the early Muzza. Bad character, ugly(ish) and annoying style, yet effective and with loads of brain.

Looner
01-16-2012, 10:29 PM
Man, that forehand makes me cringe every time he sets up for it. Definitely defies physics as someone mentioned earlier.

MuzzahLovah
01-16-2012, 10:29 PM
Spot on.

Reminds of the early Muzza. Bad character, ugly(ish) and annoying style, yet effective and with loads of brain.

Murray was never a dick to other players, and the rest of this is subjective.

v-money
01-16-2012, 10:36 PM
Spot on.

Reminds of the early Muzza. Bad character, ugly(ish) and annoying style, yet effective and with loads of brain.

I can see this comparison. Except for Tomic it's more of a cockiness personality off-court, but Murray seems to be a nice guy off-court but it a total brat who moans, cries and throws little fits on court as if he was a 6 year old kid who has been put on court against his will.

nadalwon2012
01-16-2012, 10:40 PM
Tomic hit's freakish flat winners, like that massive backhand down the line in 5t set, and winners he hit in the final game, James Blake-like. Tomic can do anything (except win Roland Garros, that is Nadal's for a long long time)!

v-money
01-16-2012, 10:41 PM
Also, Tomic will have to dramatically improve his fitness, like Murray did a few years back.

Jimnik
01-16-2012, 10:45 PM
B-bard is horrible to watch but no doubt a good player. MIMIC the faker tard calling him a clueless tactician couldn't be further from the truth - his tennis IQ is the best part of his game. The forehand technique is some of the worst shit I've ever seen but it's ridiculously consistent. Defies physics
Indeed, mental strength matters more than anything else these days.

Drugs Ruin Lives
01-16-2012, 10:46 PM
He has very little talent.

fast_clay
01-16-2012, 10:47 PM
fast_clay, do you know Stefan Edberg?

of course... i grew up watching him... why...?

Y6Q4G54yURY

latso
01-16-2012, 10:49 PM
Murray was never a dick to other players, and the rest of this is subjective.
c'mon mate, Andy was the Hewitt x 10 at one point, he was like the most provoking and irritating player on tour.
Every second match of his you could see the adversary hardly holding himself to jump over the net.
His "c'mon"s and fistpumps were over the top very often.

He has very much matured though and i honestly like him as a person now, while he was like on top of my hate list 3 years ago or smth.

Dund
01-16-2012, 10:54 PM
Murray was never a dick to other players, and the rest of this is subjective.
You've got it backwards. Tomic is fine on the court, calm and collected, unlike Murray he doesn't whinge like a 6 year old girl every time a decision goes against him.

Even in press conferences, Murray has the air of concealed arrogance about him, he treats questions he doesn't like with barely concealed contempt and narky sarcasm (lowest form of wit). Tomic shows none of that, he speaks honestly to questions asked of him, even if he does sometimes sound a bit full of himself.

nadalwon2012
01-16-2012, 10:55 PM
I must admit, nobody has appeared nicer to Nadal than Murray. Murray compliments players brilliantly. And I don't mind if Murray is emotional on court. I wish more players were.

This is my 150th post.

tennizen
01-16-2012, 10:56 PM
I don't find Tomic cocky at all:confused:

nadalwon2012
01-16-2012, 11:01 PM
Tomic is perhaps the most gracious player on tour in press conferences, or top 3 with Nadal and Murray. Tomic is all class.

latso
01-16-2012, 11:01 PM
Crazy forehand, very interesting. Like he's held on to smth usually considered a parasite move by the coaches, taking the ball too close to the body, which makes the elbow to start very early and ahead of the racquet, which by itself creates a wicked whip at the end of the movement.

And this right to left rotation he creates on the ball when he exagerates the already too close to the body shot...very strange shot.

Topspindoctor
01-16-2012, 11:04 PM
Tomic is perhaps the most gracious player on tour in press conferences, or top 3 with Nadal and Murray. Tomic is all class.

I lol'd.

Boarder35m
01-16-2012, 11:06 PM
I don't find Tomic cocky at all:confused:

I agree here.
Probably "strange" describes it better. I mean I know that when there are situations in sports where I miss a ball I sometimes speak out angrily but he seems to discuss with his own, also making strange grimaces.
It´s always close that I feel embarrassed for him.

Maybe he´s a nice guy if you know him better, but if he wouldn´t play tennis he would be the perfect mobbing victim in the class in school.

shiaben
01-16-2012, 11:09 PM
He has Querrey next. Already a tough draw. Querrey is not in game shape, so Tomic better take advantage.

fast_clay
01-16-2012, 11:12 PM
Crazy forehand, very interesting. Like he's held on to smth usually considered a parasite move by the coaches, taking the ball too close to the body, which makes the elbow to start very early and ahead of the racquet, which by itself creates a wicked whip at the end of the movement.

And this right to left rotation he creates on the ball when he exagerates the already too close to the body shot...very strange shot.

yes it a tricky study simply because the stroke production is not working in full long loops like a lot of modern forehands... it's a lot more abbreviated, looks a little jerky and most importantly he doesn't opt to fully lag the wrist in order to come through flatter... that gives the illusion that he is using a old school grip in order to acheive this.. upon closer inspection it is a semi western tending eastern grip...

and so, it is tomic's forehand production that is adapting a modern grip in order to gain an old school effect...

stefan edberg used a semi continental

nadalwon2012
01-16-2012, 11:19 PM
I'm not saying Tomic will win this AO, but this kind of reminds me of Agassi Wimbledon 92 (I know, strange comparison, as Agassi had already been in 3 slam finals before that). That's just a gut feeling, and I'm ignoring my gut, as I definitely don't think Tomic will even reach the final, let alone win this AO.

Slice Winner
01-16-2012, 11:26 PM
yes it a tricky study simply because the stroke production is not working in full long loops like a lot of modern forehands... it's a lot more abbreviated, looks a little jerky and most importantly he doesn't opt to fully lag the wrist in order to come through flatter... that gives the illusion that he is using a old school grip in order to acheive this.. upon closer inspection it is a semi western tending eastern grip...

and so, it is tomic's forehand production that is adapting a modern grip in order to gain an old school effect...

stefan edberg used a semi continental

Looks to me actually to be an extreme eastern, much like Roger's (heel on 3, knuckle looks to be on 3/4 boundary or possibly 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9Mif8kgN38

fast_clay
01-16-2012, 11:42 PM
Looks to me actually to be an extreme eastern, much like Roger's (heel on 3, knuckle looks to be on 3/4 boundary or possibly 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9Mif8kgN38

yes, i would say in both federer and tomic's case, on grass it will tend further east... federer can also seen to be returning eastern on grass then changing for the subsequent shot...

Slice Winner
01-17-2012, 12:01 AM
yes, i would say in both federer and tomic's case, on grass it will tend further east... federer can also seen to be returning eastern on grass then changing for the subsequent shot...

Good point.
I have to say, in this slow-mo, Tomic's forehand looks rather similar to Fed's (since about 2007/08 when he changed to a shorter backswing).
Doesn't resemble it as much when watching a match full speed, but might be more how he uses it than the technique being different.

Asadinator
01-17-2012, 12:40 AM
Haters gonna hate :dance:

stewietennis
01-17-2012, 12:44 AM
His game looks rather generic – like a weaker Del Potro or Soderling. Anyone care to point out what makes Tomic's game different?

Mountaindewslave
01-17-2012, 12:49 AM
Find Tomic to be more talented than Mecir and expect it to be proven in time. He's incredibly natural and extremely clever.

this***^^^^... it's very hard in today's game to be so unpredictable and hard to read like Tomic. he is great at disguising drop shots and disguising when he will add tons of pace to the ball.

mysterious style

JeffCandoi
01-17-2012, 12:52 AM
new goat is awesome!

fast_clay
01-17-2012, 12:56 AM
His game looks rather generic – like a weaker Del Potro or Soderling. Anyone care to point out what makes Tomic's game different?

guy is the ultimate off pace anti-rhythm junk merchant... and it is pretty obvious no...?

Dund
01-17-2012, 01:49 AM
His game looks rather generic – like a weaker Del Potro or Soderling. Anyone care to point out what makes Tomic's game different?
Perhaps the ability to play and actually utilise every shot in the book to his strategic advantage? Or having a tennis IQ well above around 50?

But then if you think his game resembles anything similar to Del Potro and Soderling then it's probably pointless putting forth an argument you because your understanding of tennis is so limited.

Riosreigned
01-17-2012, 01:59 AM
Love the game of Tomic, great fighter, great poise, he will be top 5, minimum. I think he'll be #1 someday.

Saberq
01-17-2012, 02:15 AM
Tomic can have all the talent he wants he is a poor mover=NO SLAMS

nadalwon2012
01-17-2012, 02:35 AM
Tomic reminds me of Rocky Balboa but not a brawler's technique.

nadalwon2012
01-17-2012, 02:37 AM
His game looks rather generic – like a weaker Del Potro or Soderling. Anyone care to point out what makes Tomic's game different?

Tomic's game is opposite to Soderling/Del Potro. Tomic varies the pace of his shots more than any player on tour. Can't get more opposite from those one-dimensional hitters.

nadalwon2012
01-17-2012, 02:39 AM
Tomic can have all the talent he wants he is a poor mover=NO SLAMS

Luckily Tomic is not a 'poor' mover. It is his weakness but it is not 'poor' by tour standards. Tomic didn't beat Verdasco by slamming him off the court. The rallies were extremely long. Plenty of movement. Tomic's movement is about average-good by Tour standards.

r3d_d3v1l_
01-17-2012, 02:41 AM
Just heard that Tomic said in the presser that he faked the cramps, to get into Verdaco´s head.

Is this true?!

nadalwon2012
01-17-2012, 02:46 AM
Just heard that Tomic said in the presser that he faked the cramps, to get into Verdaco´s head.

Is this true?!

The transcripts of each interview are at the official AO site.

bobbynorwich
01-17-2012, 06:18 AM
Originally Posted by abraxas21 http://imgsrv2.tennisuniverse.com/mtf/images2007/buttons/lastpost.gif (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?p=11636486#post11636486)
i actually prefer tomic's strange and unique game to djokovic's generic brand of tennis.

like someone fucking care what you prefer ;)

It's a chat forum, people are supposed express their opinions. Try to be polite.

:rolleyes:

azure
01-17-2012, 06:53 AM
The sad thing is he can play an attacking game, he's shown glimpses of it from time to time. He just doesn't choose to. Allowing Verdasco to hit himself out of the game worked yesterday, but most seeded players aren't so scrappy.

LawrenceOfTennis
01-17-2012, 06:54 AM
The sad thing is he can play an attacking game, he's shown glimpses of it from time to time. He just doesn't choose to. Allowing Verdasco to hit himself out of the game worked yesterday, but most seeded players aren't so scrappy.

who cares as long he wins matches. imagine what could he do with attacking tennis

bobbynorwich
01-17-2012, 06:55 AM
How come Australia has a habit of producing ass***** for top players? Hewitt for example is a prick.

You're forgetting about all the nice ones: Sam Stosur, Evonne Goolagong, Rod Laver, Patrick Rafter, Margaret Court, Tony Roche, John Newcombe, Fred Stolle, Phil Dent, Ken Rosewall, Mark Woodforde, Todd Woodbridge, and Roy Emerson, to name a few.

:confused:

KrisJB
01-17-2012, 08:55 AM
fast_clay - Tomic forehand shot is based on Stefan Edberg continental forehand grip, just a modern modification of this old-fashioned shot.

save ausdecline
01-17-2012, 10:27 AM
If Tomic is painful to watch, then watchout in the future. Aussie youngsters are gonna try and emulate the Aussie no.1. lolz

Regenbogen
01-17-2012, 10:33 AM
I like him and honestly don't think there's anything particularly awful about his personality. His movement is pretty bizarre to watch though, a lot of the time it's like he's just strolling around the court in between shots, and I could see how that might be annoying.

Saberq
01-17-2012, 11:45 AM
there is something in this kid I like ......god knows what....it's not his game as much as his cocky attitude

FlameOn
01-20-2012, 08:24 AM
OK he's not painful to watch. It's quite good sometimes how flat he can hit the ball. But he has waaay too many patches of passive play and ridiculous UEs.

nadalwon2012
01-20-2012, 08:27 AM
Tomic and Nadal are the most entertaining players in tennis history, along with Agassi.

MrChopin
01-20-2012, 08:31 AM
Hantuchova-Clijsters is a lot worse. Thanks ESPN.

tennisvideos
01-20-2012, 09:53 AM
I like watching Bernard. It reminds me of watching Chris Evert's forehand with a wooden racket when she was about 12, and Ken Rosewall's backhand (although not as good of course - only Federer's has come close).

At least he brings something very different to what is otherwise generic home brand style of tennis on tour.

LittleGloves
01-20-2012, 12:09 PM
It doesn't help that he's such an arrogant prick.

This. Thinks he's all it when he's not. :facepalm:

munZe konZa
01-20-2012, 12:41 PM
Tomic's game is opposite to Soderling/Del Potro. Tomic varies the pace of his shots more than any player on tour. Can't get more opposite from those one-dimensional hitters.

he is just another defensive junballer, there is no pace or variability there.

Beat
01-20-2012, 12:50 PM
Tomic and Nadal are the most entertaining players in tennis history, along with Agassi.

:spit:

Nole fan
01-20-2012, 04:26 PM
Not a fan of his game either, it's ugly. That along with his personality and I think it's fair to say I'm not a fan and I'll never be a fan.

This. Plus watching him slice his adversaries to death is not entertaining at all. Actually I can't think of a most boring game style. At least Dolgo threw in some great attacking forehands in the mix, but what a slicing borefest. :rolleyes:

Shinoj
01-20-2012, 05:19 PM
His movement is so slow around the court. Give me a Indian Wells or Miami, Djokovic or Nadal or Murray will roast him to death and put it over the grill.

Apart from that he has a strong game. Strong first serve, Quite effective forehand, and has a good slice which he could use intelligently.

Has a painful face really and gives annoying answers when he wins.:p

tommyg6
01-20-2012, 05:24 PM
How come Australia has a habit of producing pricks for players? Him (Tomic) and Hewitt? Both pricks.

Drugs Ruin Lives
01-20-2012, 05:32 PM
How come Australia has a habit of producing pricks for players? Him (Tomic) and Hewitt? Both pricks.

Take a wild guess.

Mr. Oracle
01-20-2012, 05:41 PM
Tomic's junkballing makes him the beast, false prophet, and antichrist all in one. Can't beleive I will be cheering for Fed for the first time in 8 years (and he's played some real wankers)!

Imperfect Angel
01-20-2012, 06:04 PM
I have to agree. He's like he doesn't care much and hardly shows any effort when playing. Perhaps it's his style of playing and he's actually quite smart with the court but he just hits the ball so slow and carefree, as if he's just competing like in any other club event. Maybe it'll be good for his career since he won't burn out so early but definitely won't win any slam playing like that. Murray will beat him in a slam final for sure.:oh:

peRfect-Tennis
01-20-2012, 06:18 PM
Bratomic! I think he's a pusher.

Imperfect Angel
01-20-2012, 06:26 PM
Bratomic! I think he's a pusher.

He definitely makes the WTA #1 looks like a ballnbasher.:haha: I'm surprised he didn't use much of his height for his advantage. He ussually would push and try a little variety without taking much risks, he's always in his comfort zone and would only push himself out of it when it really matters (not saying it's bad but still it's like he gives half-ass performances yet the other mug opponents couldn't do much to put him down :o)

Jimnik
01-20-2012, 07:52 PM
Painful but better than watching Fedbot all the time. Will be rooting for him next round.