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AO R1: Nadal def. Kuznetsov 6-4 6-1 6-1

Luinir
01-16-2012, 08:21 AM
Loopy first set, much better in the second and third sets.
I'm looking forward to him press conference. Guess what happened to that right knee..
Next, former semi-finalist Tommy Haas.

Luinir
01-16-2012, 08:22 AM
Serving was very good by Rafa by the way. %68 first serve in, %86 first serve points won, 9 aces. Didn't get broken and even didn't faced a break point until the last game.

allpro
01-16-2012, 08:26 AM
nice pop on the first serve and good depth on the forehand.

bokehlicious
01-16-2012, 08:28 AM
Auf geht's Tommy!

RafaNadal2012!!!
01-16-2012, 08:37 AM
NID, good match, good serving, good depth, needs some improvement but looking sharp, fucking up my sleep schedule for the next two weeks NID, easy opponent but big hitter and server, Rafa looked good, nice mic screw up at the end, Wonder why is knee is all taped though, he's mentioned nothing of it???!?!? Anyways I'm sure it's fine, Vamos Rafa, Good luck against Tommy, he can be very tricky for anyone.

samanosuke
01-16-2012, 08:39 AM
Plays Svetlana next round ?

rinnegan
01-16-2012, 08:39 AM
NID. Good, straightforward win.

guga2120
01-16-2012, 08:43 AM
He's trying to get that 2009 backhand back, that won him the title. I am not sure its going to worry Novak too much, alteast from where it is right now.

MuzzahLovah
01-16-2012, 08:45 AM
So I'm guessing the knee is fine.

RafaNadal2012!!!
01-16-2012, 08:52 AM
So I'm guessing the knee is fine.

his play and lack of comment on it (not like he got the chance) would lead us to believe so, we must see if any word of it is mentioned is his presser.

MariaV
01-16-2012, 09:57 AM
So I'm guessing the knee is fine.

Just getting the excuses ready for the loss, if the shoulder's not enough there's the knee. :D :D :D

JurajCrane
01-16-2012, 10:04 AM
Kuznetsov has never beaten player of top 100. What ?

Nadal was ok today, btw what is with his knee ?

Luinir
01-16-2012, 10:07 AM
BOOM: Nadal: 'Yesterday I stood up, felt crack in knee, stood up felt unbelievable pain, couldnt move my knee. Wasnt sure I would play'

Nadal also said it was worst pain ever but after treatment felt better, MRI showed no problem, hopeful he can ride it out

bokehlicious
01-16-2012, 10:10 AM
BOOM: Nadal: 'Yesterday I stood up, felt crack in knee, stood up felt unbelievable pain, couldnt move my knee. Wasnt sure I would play'

Nadal also said it was worst pain ever but after treatment felt better, MRI showed no problem, hopeful he can ride it out

:spit: always count on Rafito for a good laugh :haha:

Time Violation
01-16-2012, 10:12 AM
BOOM: Nadal: 'Yesterday I stood up, felt crack in knee, stood up felt unbelievable pain, couldnt move my knee. Wasnt sure I would play'

Nadal also said it was worst pain ever but after treatment felt better, MRI showed no problem, hopeful he can ride it out

Weird, worst pain ever, yet it shows nothing and feels better instantly. Anyway, no wonder he's pissed on the schedule and everything else, if such situations happen to him often.

samanosuke
01-16-2012, 10:29 AM
BOOM: Nadal: 'Yesterday I stood up, felt crack in knee, stood up felt unbelievable pain, couldnt move my knee. Wasnt sure I would play'

Nadal also said it was worst pain ever but after treatment felt better, MRI showed no problem, hopeful he can ride it out

so when he can't move the knee he isn't sure will he play . I am wondering what he feels when retires or withdraws then . Nadal is like Highlander and Terminator in one

Mystique
01-16-2012, 10:32 AM
BOOM: Nadal: 'Yesterday I stood up, felt crack in knee, stood up felt unbelievable pain, couldnt move my knee. Wasnt sure I would play'

Nadal also said it was worst pain ever but after treatment felt better, MRI showed no problem, hopeful he can ride it out

Nadal :facepalm:

The sad thing though is that there are people who still buy this guy's crap

Sophocles
01-16-2012, 10:35 AM
Nadal :facepalm:

The sad thing though is that there are people who still buy this guy's crap

Exactly.

Commander Data
01-16-2012, 10:37 AM
so when he can't move the knee he isn't sure will he play . I am wondering what he feels when retires or withdraws then . Nadal is like Highlander and Terminator in one

Spartan or Spanish drama queen?

dabeast
01-16-2012, 10:39 AM
Weird, worst pain ever, yet it shows nothing and feels better instantly. Anyway, no wonder he's pissed on the schedule and everything else, if such situations happen to him often.

same thing happened with the "broken foot" last year @ Wimby. Unbelievable how pple (aka Nadtards) still buy the stuff that comes out of this guy's mouth. Got his premeditated injury excuse going now...

samanosuke
01-16-2012, 10:46 AM
I mean how nadal over and over again after shits he says have a dignity to look in other players face . There aren't dumb people ( at least some of them ) to believe in that, at the end everyone of them knows how real injury looks and how is play with an injury . This no honesty or respect the worst kind of human shit disgracing the game all over again

Sombrerero loco
01-16-2012, 10:48 AM
first bye

Time Violation
01-16-2012, 10:51 AM
I mean how nadal over and over again after shits he says have a dignity to look in other players face . There aren't dumb people ( at least some of them ) to believe in that, at the end everyone of them knows how real injury looks and how is play with an injury . This no honesty or respect the worst kind of human shit disgracing the game all over again

I don't think he's pretending, there are many hypochondriacs out there, why not a top tennis player as well :)

GSMnadal
01-16-2012, 11:06 AM
Haters having a field day with this :o

they can barely hold in their excitement over another injury, disgusting :o

Corey Feldman
01-16-2012, 11:14 AM
how does The Gentleman do it

Sophocles
01-16-2012, 11:33 AM
Haters having a field day with this :o

they can barely hold in their excitement over another injury, disgusting :o

Only deluded fangirls believe in his incessant "injury" bullshit.

Lucilla
01-16-2012, 11:45 AM
nice win Rafa :)

Mae
01-16-2012, 11:48 AM
Rafa :)

The_Djoker
01-16-2012, 11:49 AM
Beating Kusnetsova isn't a big deal, isn't she a woman? Either way Nadull will retire soon enough. You don't "announce" you're going to take month off after the first calender slam and maintain a good fitness level throughout a major tournament. I just hope these journeymen take their chances and put him under pressure.

rocketassist
01-16-2012, 12:01 PM
Get lost you wolf-crying phony.

The_Djoker
01-16-2012, 12:03 PM
Get lost you wolf-crying phony.

Who you talking to? Me?

Time Violation
01-16-2012, 12:16 PM
Who you talking to? Me?

I think he means Nadal :lol:

Nole Rules
01-16-2012, 12:22 PM
Who you talking to? Me?

No. He means Rafa.

leng jai
01-16-2012, 12:24 PM
Hass is farked.

The_Djoker
01-16-2012, 12:25 PM
No. He means Rafa.

oh, didn't read the "injury" thing quote. What a joke Nadullina is.

Nole Rules
01-16-2012, 12:26 PM
Poor Rafa. How can he beat a healthy Haas with his injured knee?

LawrenceOfTennis
01-16-2012, 12:29 PM
What an oppponent. Challenger hero.

-Evita-
01-16-2012, 01:40 PM
So you people think Nadal is lying? :scratch: That he went to have a MRI on his knee the day before the match for no reason other than to "prepare an excuse"? I don't know, that seems pretty thin to me. If he just wanted an excuse he could have used his shoulder :shrug:

Certinfy
01-16-2012, 01:42 PM
Come on Berdych!!!

Time Violation
01-16-2012, 01:45 PM
So you people think Nadal is lying? :scratch: That he went to have a MRI on his knee the day before the match for no reason other than to "prepare an excuse"? I don't know, that seems pretty thin to me. If he just wanted an excuse he could have used his shoulder :shrug:

I think what people are saying is that Nadal is overreacting, not lying :)

samanosuke
01-16-2012, 01:50 PM
If he just wanted an excuse he could have used his shoulder :shrug:

Oh C'mon I don't think Nadal is extra intelligent but the same excuse for few tournaments is little too foolish, even for him .He isn't 18 anymore. I thought nadal fans would have better opinion about him

samanosuke
01-16-2012, 01:55 PM
I think what people are saying is that Nadal is overreacting, not lying :)

wrong .

I say and think he is calculated liar without sportsmanship and any feel for good taste or respect for other players who is hiding that disgusting side of him behind accidental humbleness caused with restriction in mental development

Tennis-Life
01-16-2012, 01:58 PM
I don't remember the day when Nadal was fit :tape: :spit:

Saberq
01-16-2012, 02:01 PM
if you feel a crack in your knee you are done playing for a while Rafa

Time Violation
01-16-2012, 02:01 PM
wrong .

I say and think he is calculated liar without sportsmanship and any feel for good taste or respect for other players who is hiding that disgusting side of him behind accidental humbleness caused with restriction in mental development

That would make him some kind of master conman... I think you're giving him too much credit :)

Looner
01-16-2012, 02:13 PM
BOOM: Nadal: 'Yesterday I stood up, felt crack in knee, stood up felt unbelievable pain, couldnt move my knee. Wasnt sure I would play'

Nadal also said it was worst pain ever but after treatment felt better, MRI showed no problem, hopeful he can ride it out

Isn't this the same guy that just yesterday said he won't complain any more because he looks rather bad. Did not take long for him to go back on his word. NID.

-Evita-
01-16-2012, 02:13 PM
I think what people are saying is that Nadal is overreacting, not lying :)

Perhaps but I don't think so. Considering how important knees are for tennis players it's only expected that he went to check it out if he felt some pain in it, even if it was not the "worst ever". The tape today was probably just a precaution but can you really fault him for that? It's far better to take precautions than not to take them.

Oh C'mon I don't think Nadal is extra intelligent but the same excuse for few tournaments is little too foolish, even for him .He isn't 18 anymore. I thought nadal fans would have better opinion about him

I am a fan of Nadal and my opinion of him is that he doesn't make up his injuries. This time he didn't even say he was injured (because he wasn't), he just said he felt pain in his knee and I believe him :shrug:

samanosuke
01-16-2012, 02:18 PM
I am a fan of Nadal and my opinion of him is that he doesn't make up his injuries. This time he didn't even say he was injured (because he wasn't), he just said he felt pain in his knee and I believe him :shrug:

I know that every nadal's fan believes in his injury, in opposite he wouldn't be his fan :shrug:

Time Violation
01-16-2012, 02:19 PM
Perhaps but I don't think so. Considering how important knees are for tennis players it's only expected that he went to check it out if he felt some pain in it, even if it was not the "worst ever". The tape today was probably just a precaution but can you really fault him for that? It's far better to take precautions than not to take them.

That's fine, but was it really necessary to go public with that, especially since it turned out to be nothing?

bokehlicious
01-16-2012, 02:21 PM
Nadal keeps up with the good old trick. When he loses it'll be once again because of an injury. The only sportsman ever to be undefeated when healthy :sport: bamos!

-Evita-
01-16-2012, 02:26 PM
That's fine, but was it really necessary to go public with that, especially since it turned out to be nothing?

He couldn't really avoid it since people (I assume) were asking about the taped knee at the press conference, could he? The way I see it, he just gave an honest answer. The article on the official AO website said that the tournament organized his MRI so it would have leaked either way, even if he had tried to avoid the topic at the press conference. But I much prefer that he just told everything like it was.

Time Violation
01-16-2012, 02:28 PM
He couldn't really avoid it since people (I assume) were asking about the taped knee at the press conference, could he? The way I see it, he just gave an honest answer. The article on the official AO website said that the tournament organized his MRI so it would have leaked either way, even if he had tried to avoid the topic at the press conference. But I much prefer that he just told everything like it was.

I get it, but the part about "worst pain ever" is a bit melodramatic, don't you think? :)

Sophocles
01-16-2012, 02:30 PM
So you people think Nadal is lying? :scratch: That he went to have a MRI on his knee the day before the match for no reason other than to "prepare an excuse"? I don't know, that seems pretty thin to me. If he just wanted an excuse he could have used his shoulder :shrug:

No. We think he's a hypochondriac drama queen who always makes a point of telling the press about every ache & pain.

abraxas21
01-16-2012, 02:34 PM
BOOM: Nadal: 'Yesterday I stood up, felt crack in knee, stood up felt unbelievable pain, couldnt move my knee. Wasnt sure I would play'

Nadal also said it was worst pain ever but after treatment felt better, MRI showed no problem, hopeful he can ride it out

what a clown

nadal obviously hasn't heard the story of the little kid who cried 'wolf'

mark73
01-16-2012, 02:34 PM
I don't believe he is lying. He has a history of having to drop out of majors because of injury.

I'm no Nadal fan but I certainly don't hate him or any other tennis player.

-Evita-
01-16-2012, 02:36 PM
I get it, but the part about "worst pain ever" is a bit melodramatic, don't you think? :)

Yeah :lol: But I also know that Rafa's English limits him often in the ways he can express what he really wants to say so I take these quotes with a grain of salt.

abraxas21
01-16-2012, 02:39 PM
Yeah :lol: But I also know that Rafa's English limits him often in the ways he can express what he really wants to say so I take these quotes with a grain of salt.

you know nadal isn't to be trusted when even their fans admit that nadal's words should be taken "with a grain of salt" :lol:

-Evita-
01-16-2012, 02:47 PM
you know nadal isn't to be trusted when even their fans admit that nadal's words should be taken "with a grain of salt" :lol:

The fundamental difference is that I don't believe he wants people to think he has worse injuries than he really has. He downplays them sometimes, yes, most tennis players do that because they don't want the opponents to know their weaknesses. But I don't think he wants to mislead people in the other direction. I know a lot of MTF folks don't agree with this, but, oh well...

abraxas21
01-16-2012, 02:51 PM
The fundamental difference is that I don't believe he wants people to think he has worse injuries than he really has. He downplays them sometimes, yes, most tennis players do that because they don't want the opponents to know their weaknesses. But I don't think he wants to mislead people in the other direction. I know a lot of MTF folks don't agree with this, but, oh well...

if nadal 'downplays' his injuries, then he must be the most physically battered player of all time of all sports.

-Evita-
01-16-2012, 03:05 PM
if nadal 'downplays' his injuries, then he must be the most physically battered player of all time of all sports.

I said "sometimes". Do you really think he has never done it? :eek:

Anyway, back to topic. Rafa played a good match :yeah: Hopefully he can get to the final at least.

tennizen
01-16-2012, 03:18 PM
M.Night Shyamalan was a visionary. He had Federer and Nadal in mind when he made this:bowdown:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0217869/

NadalPhan
01-16-2012, 03:30 PM
Only deluded fangirls believe in his incessant "injury" bullshit.

Rafa definitely makes up excuses for injury, but so does your boy Fed and Djokovic as well.

NadalPhan
01-16-2012, 03:42 PM
Anyway, back to topic. Rafa played a good match Hopefully he can get to the final at least.

His groundstroke was the best I've seen it since the 2010 US Open. I'm happy with it. He still needs more pop in that service game and needs to mix it up more if he wants to beat Novak; but the stroke is definitely much better than what I've been seeing last year.....especially the BH.

ossie
01-16-2012, 03:48 PM
nadal playing with surprising amount of depth on both his forehand and backhand, i like it.

Sophocles
01-16-2012, 04:18 PM
Rafa definitely makes up excuses for injury, but so does your boy Fed and Djokovic as well.

Actually I think Nadal is a genuine hypochondriac, but that doesn't make it any less annoying.

(Strictly speaking he's not a hypochondriac - I know this stuff, I used to be one myself - as the defining features are an obsessive belief/fear you have a fatal illness along with compulsive checking for symptoms, but he has something analogous: an obsessive belief/fear he has a career-ending injury along with compulsive checking of symptoms & public reassurance-seeking. Uncle Toni should invest in a course of cognitive-behavioural therapy instead of indulging this nonsense.)

tribalfusion
01-16-2012, 04:57 PM
I used to be one myself - as the defining features are an obsessive belief...compulsive checking...public reassurance-seeking

How ironic; this sounds quite consistent with your posting here on MTF particularly as regards Nadal actually.

Regarding the match...Nadal struck the ball quite well in the match and regardless of his results here, seems to be on the right track.

Singularity
01-16-2012, 05:01 PM
How ironic; this sounds quite consistent with your posting here on MTF particularly as regards Nadal actually.

And I find it ironic you can criticise someone for getting personal, by making a veiled personal attack yourself!

evilmindbulgaria
01-16-2012, 05:14 PM
How ironic; this sounds quite consistent with your posting here on MTF particularly as regards Nadal actually.

Regarding the match...Nadal struck the ball quite well in the match and regardless of his results here, seems to be on the right track.

You know that you are talking to one of the bitterest, most pathetic Rafa haters, right? Don't waste your time, let them drown in their hate!

Rafa played really well, especially in the second and third sets. The backhand is getting close to the AO'09 level, but the UEs need to be less if Rafa is to have any shot at the title this year! His serving was not bad either. The real test will be in R4 against Isner/Nalby.

Sophocles
01-16-2012, 05:16 PM
As it happens, being an ex-hypochondriac myself I have a certain amount of sympathy with Nadal. I just wish he'd get some therapy & get over it.

NadalPhan
01-16-2012, 05:31 PM
Actually I think Nadal is a genuine hypochondriac, but that doesn't make it any less annoying.

(Strictly speaking he's not a hypochondriac - I know this stuff, I used to be one myself - as the defining features are an obsessive belief/fear you have a fatal illness along with compulsive checking for symptoms, but he has something analogous: an obsessive belief/fear he has a career-ending injury along with compulsive checking of symptoms & public reassurance-seeking. Uncle Toni should invest in a course of cognitive-behavioural therapy instead of indulging this nonsense.)

I think he's simply making up excuses like Djokovic often does. Not that I care about it though; gotta do everything you can to get some advantage on your opponent.

P.S. Are you still with me on the avi bet come French Open?

iPaparazzo
01-16-2012, 05:41 PM
So much for his "worst knee pain ever," for sitting in a chair. :rolleyes: He just does this stuff to ease the pressure in the CASE of a close match or a loss..

:drive:

Sophocles
01-16-2012, 05:45 PM
I think he's simply making up excuses like Djokovic often does. Not that I care about it though; gotta do everything you can to get some advantage on your opponent.

P.S. Are you still with me on the avi bet come French Open?

Remind me.

Corey Feldman
01-16-2012, 06:05 PM
he is the biggest hypochondriac in the history of the planet

coulda wrote a movie about how he hurt his knee yesterday when he got out of some chair the way he was going on

hypochondriacto

least he never fainted under the table in the press conf this time.

v-money
01-16-2012, 06:07 PM
Well Nadal has bottle arranging OCD, so him being a hypochondriac wouldn't be much more of a stretch.

nsidhan
01-16-2012, 06:56 PM
No way you can come back from a crack in your knee to beat a professional player 6-4 6-1 6-1. Rafa is full of it.

Hian-GOAT
01-16-2012, 07:56 PM
Kuzzy :( Losing to Nadal, a new low in his promising career :bigcry:

Topspindoctor
01-17-2012, 12:12 AM
Australian TV :worship:

Nadal playing and they were showing Isner vs some mug.

Anyway, decent first match, forehand and serve were great, hope the knee will be fine throughout the tournament.

fmolinari2005
01-17-2012, 12:20 AM
I am just wondering what Nadal will do now during changeovers since sitting on chairs became bad for his body.

tangerine_dream
01-17-2012, 03:44 AM
Keep the confidence going up, Rafa. :yeah:

Everko
01-17-2012, 09:41 PM
Solid win over a not bad player. Much more convincing win than I had hoped