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Federer Streak 2011-2012: Will it end at Australian Open?

masterclass
01-14-2012, 12:28 AM
Last poll for this subject in this thread (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=194477) was disrupted by Mr. Federer's Doha withdrawal.
This time predict when or if his streak ends during the Australian Open now that we know the draw.
Choice names are mostly by ranking, but one can ignore the names and just pick the numbers.

Respectfully,
masterclass

Pirata.
01-14-2012, 12:46 AM
Will end in the SFs, I think.

Sham Kay
01-14-2012, 12:52 AM
He's involved in Murray 2012 so the end of his streak is natural.

Should make the Final.

EnriqueIG8
01-14-2012, 12:56 AM
Depends how the back is.

Can't really see him getting past the QF's if he serves with a 175 kmph average first serve speed.
Hope all is well, and then he should get to the SF and probably F.

Sunset of Age
01-14-2012, 01:00 AM
It will all depend on the quality of Fed's 1st serve.
If it's off, for whatever reason (and please spare me the 'injured'-excuses), he'll have a bloddy hard job to face, if it does indeed works... woe to all of his opponents.

MuzzahLovah
01-14-2012, 01:05 AM
It's already over.

Looner
01-14-2012, 01:25 AM
I really depends on this injury and how it will affect his game, mentally and physically so it's tough to call.

It will all depend on the quality of Fed's 1st serve.
If it's off, for whatever reason (and please spare me the 'injured'-excuses), he'll have a bloddy hard job to face, if it does indeed works... woe to all of his opponents.

As for the injury excuse cited above, how any Nadal fan is not embarrassed to keep talking about sparing excuses for injuries is beyond me. But then again I support a fair and honest guy like Fed so what do I know.

Regarding the serve, I think even if there isn't a persistent injury/niggle (we won't hear even if there is since he's not the cheat), I think Fed's game might be more affected by the confidence he has in his back. Is he willing to risk and go all out with the serve. He did mention 'playing with the breaks on' also talked about being able to go full out in his last training session before Monday so I hope all is well.

viruzzz
01-14-2012, 01:48 AM
SF vs Berdych can easy be a defeat.
But it also could be a win... Final vs Tsonga is probably a win. If he didn't fall in the SF he'll win the tourny.

abraxas21
01-14-2012, 02:04 AM
Will end in the SFs, I think.

this

but if somehow federer manages to avoid/beat pocahontas in the semis, he's going all the way. djokovic would crack as easily as a tooth pick in a GS final v. federer.

Saberq
01-14-2012, 02:14 AM
this

but if somehow federer manages to avoid/beat pocahontas in the semis, he's going all the way. djokovic would crack as easily as a tooth pick in a GS final v. federer.

this aint 2007 ....Fed is the one that cracks now

!VamosRafa!
01-14-2012, 02:39 AM
It will end in the final, he will lose to the all mighty Serbinator :rolleyes:

Mystique
01-14-2012, 04:24 AM
Wins AO, Streak reaches 27 :rocker2:

GrantOz44
01-14-2012, 05:07 AM
For some reason I see a semi-final stumble

@Sweet Cleopatra
01-14-2012, 06:24 AM
Semi Final. I think it's going to be very hard for him to win 3 sets from Rafa.

MatchFederer
01-14-2012, 06:44 AM
It ended after he withdrew from Doha as far as I'm concerned.

finishingmove
01-14-2012, 06:45 AM
He's at a streak of 0 and counting.

Not really astonishing.

GSMnadal
01-14-2012, 10:19 AM
You can always count on Federer fans to vote for Fed winning something, 42% in a nine-way poll :bowdown:

SF tops, maybe even sooner than that.

xdrewitdajx
01-14-2012, 10:33 AM
I think he'll reach the final, but lose.

Tennis-Life
01-14-2012, 10:34 AM
You can always count on Federer fans to vote for Fed winning something, 42% in a nine-way poll :bowdown:

SF tops, maybe even sooner than that.

Hope Fed will trash Nadal

GSMnadal
01-14-2012, 10:37 AM
Hope Fed will trash Nadal

Possible, Nadal is playing like a mug these days. But so far that hasn't been the case in slams, so I'm hoping Rafa will thrash Federer and Djokovic/Murray :cool:

Saberq
01-14-2012, 10:47 AM
Possible, Nadal is playing like a mug these days. But so far that hasn't been the case in slams, so I'm hoping Rafa will thrash Federer and Djokovic/Murray :cool:

only way that happens is if Fed self destructs along with Novak

Singularity
01-14-2012, 11:02 AM
He's at a streak of 0 and counting.

Not really astonishing.
Unbeaten streak.

barbadosan
01-14-2012, 11:06 AM
Love to see these few MTF poster personal rulebooks ("I say streak has ended"), which apparently have more weight than and supercede the ATP rulebook

nalbyfan
01-14-2012, 11:45 AM
He's done basically, how can some people believe that he can win AO, it's totally unrealist. He hasn't won a GS since 2010 so why would he win today, back after an injury in the first tourney of the season and at almost 31.
Wake up guys

Looner
01-14-2012, 11:49 AM
You can always count on Federer fans to vote for Fed winning something, 42% in a nine-way poll :bowdown:

SF tops, maybe even sooner than that.

Maybe because the result is still on the 30-year-old Fed's racket, no matter how much you may dislike it. If he plays well for 3 sets, he destroys Nadal. If he plays well for 3/4 sets, he beats Djokovic. That's all and I hope it helps :wavey:.

GSMnadal
01-14-2012, 12:06 PM
Maybe because the result is still on the 30-year-old Fed's racket, no matter how much you may dislike it. If he plays well for 3 sets, he destroys Nadal. If he plays well for 3/4 sets, he beats Djokovic. That's all and I hope it helps :wavey:.

Yes, but the likelihood of 30 year old Fed playing well 3 straight sets against Nadal on an outdoor hardcourt is very small, playing 3 out of 4/5 great is a bit more likely. But with the latter you'll have to add the fatigue and stamina variable as well, the odds of Federer playing at his peak in a 4th and especially 5th set aren't very high.

It's much harder for Fed to maintain a level high enough to beat Nadal in a best of 5 set match, than it is for Nadal to beat Fed in a best of 5 set match (even in a best of 3). If Fed falls off his level even slightly, he's toast and Nadal will grind him to a halt (hence the 17-9).

Saberq
01-14-2012, 12:08 PM
Maybe because the result is still on the 30-year-old Fed's racket, no matter how much you may dislike it. If he plays well for 3 sets, he destroys Nadal. If he plays well for 3/4 sets, he beats Djokovic. That's all and I hope it helps :wavey:.

If he plays well he loses to Djokovic ...he has to play at his peak and Novak to play subpar for Roger to beat him ...

Mystique
01-14-2012, 12:12 PM
If he plays well he loses to Djokovic ...he has to play at his peak and Novak to play subpar for Roger to beat him ...

:facepalm:

I like Djokovic as a player, but this Nole bandwagon on MTF makes me wanna see him lose consistently like he did before 2011. Just for the laughs

Saberq
01-14-2012, 12:20 PM
:facepalm:

I like Djokovic as a player, but this Nole bandwagon on MTF makes me wanna see him lose consistently like he did before 2011. Just for the laughs

I just told the truth.....you are making Fed to be more than he is ......I cant argue anymore with Fed fans....you will see at the AO

Looner
01-14-2012, 12:23 PM
^^^
Tell me, oh wise one, when did Fed play a very good match and did not win/close to winning against Djoko. Their last two meetings which were in slams were both on Fed's racket. So, no, you're wrong.

Punky
01-14-2012, 12:39 PM
he will lose to novak in the final in 5 sets :sadface::facepalm:

Saberq
01-14-2012, 12:41 PM
^^^
Tell me, oh wise one, when did Fed play a very good match and did not win/close to winning against Djoko. Their last two meetings which were in slams were both on Fed's racket. So, no, you're wrong.

Montreal 07 ....Fed played great....still lost .........played great in AO last year still lost

Punky
01-14-2012, 12:48 PM
Montreal 07 ....Fed played great....still lost .........played great in AO last year still lost

and did not win/close to winning against Djoko

Commander Data
01-14-2012, 12:56 PM
He's at a streak of 0 and counting.

Not really astonishing.

Yeah, but can he keep it up?

Looner
01-14-2012, 12:57 PM
^^^
Leave him be. It's hard to accept a granpa can still kick your at-peak favourite's ass :D. Plus Fed did not play all that great in Montreal.

Saberq
01-14-2012, 01:00 PM
^^^
Leave him be. It's hard to accept a granpa can still kick your at-peak favourite's ass :D. Plus Fed did not play all that great in Montreal.

of course he did ....I remember that match like I watched it yesterday.......and your granpa wont make the final

Looner
01-14-2012, 01:04 PM
I shall quote my grandpa and say 'Let's talk again in two weeks' time' :P.

Egreen
01-14-2012, 01:36 PM
In the SF or in the final..

finishingmove
01-14-2012, 01:44 PM
Yeah, but can he keep it up?

Depends on his back.

Singularity
01-14-2012, 02:24 PM
Montreal 07 ....Fed played great....still lost .........played great in AO last year still lost
At the AO Federer made errors on most of the big points (off his backhand). He wasn't blown away; he just didn't execute his shots. And it was still very close.

In Montreal 07 Federer made 48 UEs, and lost the first set from 40-love up, serving for it. Even against a sub-par Federer, Djokovic needed 2 tiebreaks.

MIMIC
01-14-2012, 02:34 PM
At the AO Federer made errors on most of the big points (off his backhand). He wasn't blown away; he just didn't execute his shots. And it was still very close.

In Montreal 07 Federer made 48 UEs, and lost the first set from 40-love up, serving for it. Even against a sub-par Federer, Djokovic needed 2 tiebreaks.

Same could be said for the 2007 U.S. Open :lol:

Singularity
01-14-2012, 02:39 PM
Sure. I thought Federer was very poor in the USO 07 final.

Federer_28
01-14-2012, 02:42 PM
If he plays well he loses to Djokovic ...he has to play at his peak and Novak to play subpar for Roger to beat him ...

Roger at his best is better than Novak at his best .

MIMIC
01-14-2012, 02:46 PM
Sure. I thought Federer was very poor in the USO 07 final.

http://www.personal.psu.edu/afr3/blogs/SIOW/notsureifserious.jpg

My point was that the very same things you criticized Fed for in the Montreal match, Djokovic did in the U.S. Open final.

Served for the set while 40-0 up, made an enormous amount of UEs, the winner needing two tiebreaks against an out of sorts opponents, etc.

Mystique
01-14-2012, 02:49 PM
Sure. I thought Federer was very poor in the USO 07 final.

Yep. In my opinion that was the worst I saw Fed play in a slam final that he won.
He was really lucky that day, it seemed like he was begging to be beaten and Novak choked all over the place, especially in the first set...:rolleyes:

Saberq
01-14-2012, 02:54 PM
Roger at his best is better than Novak at his best .

yes peak Fed ...but Fed today at his best outdoors on hard is worse than Novak on that same surface at his best .....

abraxas21
01-14-2012, 03:49 PM
i had a dream last night

fed loses in 3 sets in the QF v. pony

Singularity
01-14-2012, 03:53 PM
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He had no bite on any of his groundstrokes, and won the sets by playing really passively and waiting for Djokovic to implode.

Edit:

My point was that the very same things you criticized Fed for in the Montreal match, Djokovic did in the U.S. Open final.

Served for the set while 40-0 up, made an enormous amount of UEs, the winner needing two tiebreaks against an out of sorts opponents, etc.
And I agreed with that.

Saberq
01-14-2012, 04:18 PM
i had a dream last night

fed loses in 3 sets in the QF v. pony

not happening

sportstennis
01-14-2012, 04:30 PM
not happening

but Roger is an 30-years-old old player now..

:facepalm:

Saberq
01-14-2012, 04:54 PM
but Roger is an 30-years-old old player now..

:facepalm:

I dont care if he is 100 years old he aint losing to Del Potro in 3 sets

LuCC
01-14-2012, 04:57 PM
The only guy who can end his streak atm is Novak Djokovic. So I hold out hope to see the final between them. I think Rog thirsts for revenge after US Open where he lost the match which was in his pocket.

masterclass
01-14-2012, 06:44 PM
He's at a streak of 0 and counting.

Not really astonishing.

Love to see these few MTF poster personal rulebooks ("I say streak has ended"), which apparently have more weight than and supercede the ATP rulebook

Agreed barbadosan.
As I said in the previous "streak thread", I would still love to see a link to the ATP rulebook where it gives the rules regarding streaks. The only authoritative statement I've found is here (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/tennis/2007-05-10-2609642545_x.htm?AID=4992781&PID=4178046&SID=t6xlpvyhjmja)from an ATP spokesperson and it clearly states that a withdrawal is neither a win or a loss and that a streak remains intact.

That said, this discussion is all really off-topic in this thread. There is no choice in the Poll for 0. This is not a thread discussing the merits of the streak rules. Feel free to start a thread about that if you'd like.

Respectfully,
masterclass

mooncreek
01-14-2012, 06:51 PM
Federer got a fortunate draw to the semis. Del Potro is the only one of concern in his quarter - and he'd have to get there first, but I don't have much confidence in that.

If Nadal is the semifinal opponent, I give Federer the edge. Tougher to say with other possibilities but I do think Federer is going to make the final but has little shot against Djokovic.

azure
01-15-2012, 02:49 AM
He will lose against Nadal IMO.

Commander Data
01-15-2012, 02:09 PM
Depends on his back.

only thing that can stop him.

Nole Rules
01-15-2012, 02:22 PM
only thing that can stop him.

Yeah right.:spit:

MIMIC
01-15-2012, 02:28 PM
He had no bite on any of his groundstrokes, and won the sets by playing really passively and waiting for Djokovic to implode.

Edit:


And I agreed with that.

Oh. OK.

ossie
01-15-2012, 02:47 PM
i love how desperate fedfans are trying to read too much in feds 'streak'. nobody gives a shit about the end of the year and those results are certainly no guarantee for the new year especially slams.

Looner
01-15-2012, 03:06 PM
^^^
Can you save that post for me for when Fed wins the AO so we desperate Fed fans can jointly laugh at your desperate attempt to disregard the excellent end of season Fed had :angel:.

Commander Data
01-15-2012, 03:12 PM
i love how desperate fedfans are trying to read too much in feds 'streak'. nobody gives a shit about the end of the year and those results are certainly no guarantee for the new year especially slams.


WTF and ATP's 1000 worthless? only slams count or what? you sound like a Fanfan...

masterclass
01-16-2012, 11:17 AM
Switzerland's Roger Federer (3) defeated Russia's Alexander Kudryavtsev (172) 7-5, 6-2, 6-2 Monday evening, extending his streak to 21.

It was Mr. Kudryavtsev's first participation in a major event. Roger Federer served fairly well, hitting 14 aces, 2 double faults and 63% first serves, winning 80% of those, and 53% of his second serve. His fastest serve was clocked at 207 kph (129 mph), avg. 181 kph (112 mph). He had 43 winners vs. 33 unforced errors. Mr. Federer said after his match that his back was well and he felt 100%.

Upset match of the day (poor though it was) was Australia's unseeded Bernard Tomic's (38) defeat of the Spanish 22nd seed Fernando Verdasco (24) 4-6, 6-7(3), 6-4, 6-2, 7-5. Another upset in Mr. Federer's quarter was Croation Ivo Karlovic (57) straight set defeat of Austria's 31st seed Jurgen Melzer (33). It was an escape for Alex Dolgopolov (13), who battled to a 5 set win over Australia's wildcard Greg Jones (198).

Temperature for the Federer-Kudryavtsev match was between 30-31 C. (86-88 F.). Tomorrow's predicted daytime temperatures are upwards of 36 C. (97 F.). Novak Djokovic (1) will play the second match of the day on Rod Laver Arena, Andy Murray (4), the 3rd match of the day on Hisense Arena, and Jo-Wilfied Tsonga (6) to play at night on Margaret Court Arena.

Next up for Mr. Federer, Germany's Andreas Beck (93), who defeated France's Eric Prodon (96) 6-4, 6-2, 4-6, 7-5.
Mr. Federer and Mr. Beck have faced each other 1 time, Mr. Federer defeating Mr. Beck in straight sets in the second round of the 2010 US Open. So change option 2 from: "21 - Pounded by Prodon" to "21 - Bashed by Beck". ;)

Respectfully,
masterclass

The_Djoker
01-16-2012, 11:33 AM
Loses in semis to Big John Isner.

Tennis-Life
01-16-2012, 11:40 AM
Loses in semis to Big John Isner.

joker :clap2:

masterclass
01-20-2012, 01:14 PM
Unfortunately I can't edit the poll to correct the numbers/descriptions due to Beck's withdrawal and seed upsets.

The streak currently stands at 22. Those who voted for him to lose in the 3rd round or earlier have already lost.

Revised List with new descriptions:

22 - Tripped by Tricky Tomic
23 - Derailed by Dauntless Del Potro
24 - Neutralized by Nihilist Nadal
25 - Federer Finally Fails in Finale
26 - Wily Win in Windup - streak continues at 26
..x - Wistfully Withdraws to Whomever - streak continues at x

Respectfully,
masterclass

masterclass
01-26-2012, 11:49 AM
Mr. Federer's streak ends at 24 in the AO semifinal to Nihilist Nadal.

Congratulations to the 14 who voted for that choice in the poll!

Respectfully,
masterclass

piksi
01-26-2012, 11:58 AM
Roger will start another streak right after the US open when the main players finish their season. The strak will last until the Australian open again.

GSMnadal
01-26-2012, 12:51 PM
always nice to be right :sport:

ossie
01-26-2012, 11:21 PM
WTF and ATP's 1000 worthless? only slams count or what? you sound like a Fanfan...worthless in terms of gauging how well you can do in the upcoming slams.

Topspindoctor
01-27-2012, 01:30 AM
Olderer sent packing just as I predicted :D

abraxas21
01-27-2012, 02:48 AM
poll results show the real tennis knowledge of MTF

piksi
01-27-2012, 02:56 AM
WTF and ATP's 1000 worthless? only slams count or what? you sound like a Fanfan...

not worthless in therms on money, points and titles but considering that season ends after US open certainly not an indicator on who are the favorites for the next season.

shoparound
01-27-2012, 08:13 AM
Let's be real, the season ends after the US Open. Just about every top player half asses it until January.