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Pete Sampras analyses the 2011 season

Nole fan
01-11-2012, 10:20 AM
2011 Tennis Season Reviewed In ATP Uncovered with comments by Pete Sampras and Agassi on the Top 4. :)

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Shinoj
01-11-2012, 10:58 AM
Sampras was quite spot on with his analysis. About Djokovic's season. Incredible really and later in the video that comment was aptly made about Murray too. that the victory against Nadal in Tokyo showed that he had talent.

Nole fan
01-11-2012, 11:17 AM
Sampras was quite spot on with his analysis. About Djokovic's season. Incredible really and later in the video that comment was aptly made about Murray too. that the victory against Nadal in Tokyo showed that he had talent.

But who didn't know that already, seriously? That Murray hasn't been able to win any slam doesn't mean that he hasn't got the talent to do it. Even if he went all his career slamless he would still be one of the most talented players to play the game.

Shinoj
01-11-2012, 11:28 AM
But who didn't know that already, seriously? That Murray hasn't been able to win any slam doesn't mean that he hasn't got the talent to do it. Even if he went all his career slamless he would still be one of the most talented players to play the game.

Actually i always thought Sampras was a dull and dour personality. It was quite insightful from him to be honest.

Sri
01-11-2012, 12:17 PM
Great video. Why is Andy Murray included in this discussion?

I think Del Potro has just as much a chance of success in 2012 as Andy, and Potro has proven that he is mentally tough enough.

Topspindoctor
01-11-2012, 11:41 PM
But who didn't know that already, seriously? That Murray hasn't been able to win any slam doesn't mean that he hasn't got the talent to do it. Even if he went all his career slamless he would still be one of the most talented players to play the game.

Not really, the technical weaknesses in his game are quite obvious. The common school of thought is that Mugray can't win a slam because he's mentally weak - that is incorrect. He can't win a slam because he's a pusher.

Shinoj
01-12-2012, 12:46 AM
Not really, the technical weaknesses in his game are quite obvious. The common school of thought is that Mugray can't win a slam because he's mentally weak - that is incorrect. He can't win a slam because he's a pusher.

Everybody has technical weaknesses. Nobody is perfect. Like Nadal whose game is barely watchable. Can never understand how anybody can become a Nadal fan. Murray at least has talent to watch him.

Nole fan
01-12-2012, 02:03 AM
People, seriously, no one and i mean no one can succeed at the top without huge amounts of TALENT. When people say a player is talentless it makes me laugh, it's so ludicrous and so untrue. Just to break in the Top 100 of the world makes you hugely talented, and to be in the top 4 means that you're amongst the best 4 players in the whole wide world. Just think about that and tell me again they have no talent.

jadey
01-12-2012, 02:25 AM
Dont waste your typing skills Nole fan , some people on here just cant grasp it

Lee
01-12-2012, 02:26 AM
Actually i always thought Sampras was a dull and dour personality. It was quite insightful from him to be honest.

He was very focus and competitive during his prime. Nowadays, he is very relax and playful in the championship series/senior tour. Except may be playing vs Agassi :lol:

Sri
01-12-2012, 02:34 AM
People, seriously, no one and i mean no one can succeed at the top without huge amounts of TALENT. When people say a player is talentless it makes me laugh, it's so ludicrous and so untrue. Just to break in the Top 100 of the world makes you hugely talented, and to be in the top 4 means that you're amongst the best 4 players in the whole wide world. Just think about that and tell me again they have no talent.
It's all relatively. Murray is not a mug, but he's a relative mug compared to Fedalovic. Of course things can change if Murray has a transformation similar to Nole 2011.

Topspindoctor
01-12-2012, 02:34 AM
People, seriously, no one and i mean no one can succeed at the top without huge amounts of TALENT. When people say a player is talentless it makes me laugh, it's so ludicrous and so untrue. Just to break in the Top 100 of the world makes you hugely talented, and to be in the top 4 means that you're amongst the best 4 players in the whole wide world. Just think about that and tell me again they have no talent.

Murray is being compared to multi slam winners when gauging talent, not to top 100 players.

Shinoj
01-12-2012, 05:34 AM
Nina, Determination and physical prowess along with great coaching can break you into Top 4. Talent is no longer required in these condition. And i know you wont agree with it.

Nole fan
01-12-2012, 08:04 AM
Nina, Determination and physical prowess along with great coaching can break you into Top 4. Talent is no longer required in these condition. And i know you wont agree with it.

Obviously I don't agree with that. If it was down to it, ANYONE could be in the Top 4. Anyone. No way, mate, you've got it all wrong. Don't confuse a style that bores you with lack of talent. Style is style, everyone's got a different one, but talent means skills, and to succeed in this super competitive sport that we call tennis, you need better skills than everyone else. Only a very selective few can play tennis like these guys.

Shinoj
01-12-2012, 08:19 AM
Obviously I don't agree with that. If it was down to it, ANYONE could be in the Top 4. Anyone. No way, mate, you've got it all wrong. Don't confuse a style that bores you with lack of talent. Style is style, everyone's got a different one, but talent means skills, and to succeed in this super competitive sport that we call tennis, you need better skills than everyone else. Only a very selective few can play tennis like these guys.


I can bet everything on it. if you have those things from an early age, anyone can do it. i repeat under THESE CONDITIONS.

Shinoj
01-12-2012, 12:20 PM
And you can only tell the difference between a talented and a physical player if you have played the game.

Saberq
01-12-2012, 02:13 PM
I think Topspindoctor knows more about tennis than 90% of MTF

Sophocles
01-12-2012, 02:53 PM
I think Topspindoctor knows more about tennis than 90% of MTF

You probably think Shinoj is a genius.

Saberq
01-12-2012, 02:56 PM
You probably think Shinoj is a genius.

I dont think anyone is genius here LOL....but the Doc knows his shit ...

finishingmove
01-12-2012, 03:00 PM
"Novak pretty much steamrolled everyone".

Agreed.

Saberq
01-12-2012, 03:01 PM
"Novak pretty much steamrolled everyone".

Agreed.

very short and sweet review

Singularity
01-12-2012, 05:42 PM
Murray is being compared to multi slam winners when gauging talent, not to top 100 players.
Maybe you should compare Murray with other single slam winners, considering we're talking about the ability to win a slam.

I can bet everything on it. if you have those things from an early age, anyone can do it. i repeat under THESE CONDITIONS.
Yeah, but don't pretty much all top tennis players have these things? If everyone trains super hard from an early age, then it's not an advantage; it's something you need to do to stand a chance.

Jaz
01-12-2012, 08:00 PM
I think Sampras has ran out of money.

ossie
01-12-2012, 08:54 PM
Nina, Determination and physical prowess along with great coaching can break you into Top 4. Talent is no longer required in these condition. And i know you wont agree with it.there arent enough facepalms in the world..

Saberq
01-12-2012, 09:03 PM
there arent enough facepalms in the world..

this

Dr.Slice
01-12-2012, 09:19 PM
Nina, Determination and physical prowess along with great coaching can break you into Top 4. Talent is no longer required in these condition. And i know you wont agree with it.

I can bet everything on it. if you have those things from an early age, anyone can do it. i repeat under THESE CONDITIONS.

Seek help man.
If you want to make it to top 100 in the world, let alone top 4, you have to be super talented. No matter how much you work, some people just don't have the talent for it.

rubbERR
01-12-2012, 11:23 PM
I think Topspindoctor knows more about tennis than 90% of MTF

What the fuck? He just says the obvious. He is of course hilariously retarded. :lol:

He repeats too much and he uses word mug all his posts, so level of brainfunction cant be high.

I just hope he aint coming to defend his lousy ass, what a loser. :lol:

Saberq
01-12-2012, 11:33 PM
What the fuck? He just says the obvious. He is of course hilariously retarded. :lol:

He repeats too much and he uses word mug all his posts, so level of brainfunction cant be high.

I just hope he aint coming to defend his lousy ass, what a loser. :lol:

Doc is very smart ....and when he says someone is a mug he is a mug........

Topspindoctor
01-12-2012, 11:45 PM
What the fuck? He just says the obvious. He is of course hilariously retarded. :lol:

He repeats too much and he uses word mug all his posts, so level of brainfunction cant be high.

I just hope he aint coming to defend his lousy ass, what a loser. :lol:

You're a butthurt Del Potro fan who's angry that I constantly expose him for a fluke and a clown that he is :lol: No need to get angry, bro.

Corey Feldman
01-13-2012, 01:06 AM
he said about Nadal "had a good year not a great year"

this same guy who said "anytime you win a GS its a great year"
make up your mind El Pistolero

Shinoj
01-13-2012, 05:22 AM
You people are mistaking athletic ability for talent. talent is the grace with which the tennis player hits the ball. You can see that in Federer, Nalbandian, Murray, Safin and so on. But that is NOT the case with Nadal. His game is pure UGLY.

I repeat you can only tell the difference if you have played the game or any other outdoor sports long enough to spot it.

MatchFederer
01-13-2012, 05:52 AM
You people are mistaking athletic ability for talent. talent is the grace with which the tennis player hits the ball. You can see that in Federer, Nalbandian, Murray, Safin and so on. But that is NOT the case with Nadal. His game is pure UGLY.

I repeat you can only tell the difference if you have played the game or any other outdoor sports long enough to spot it.

You don't half come out with some absolute bollocks. You're either a muppet or a very convincing troll.

Shinoj
01-13-2012, 07:05 AM
You don't half come out with some absolute bollocks. You're either a muppet or a very convincing troll.


If you dont have any argument why dont you just Fuck off

MatchFederer
01-13-2012, 07:18 AM
If you dont have any argument why dont you just Fuck off

Because I like posting here. Despite the balance of non-tennis specific physical abilities and tennis specific talents leaning increasingly toward non-tennis specific abilities relatively in comparison to past times, it's ludicrous to posit that that alone can get you to the top of the sport.

So, like I said, you're either a raving idiot or a beautifully crafted troll.

Shinoj
01-13-2012, 07:51 AM
Because I like posting here. Despite the balance of non-tennis specific physical abilities and tennis specific talents leaning increasingly toward non-tennis specific abilities relatively in comparison to past times, it's ludicrous to posit that that alone can get you to the top of the sport.

So, like I said, you're either a raving idiot or a beautifully crafted troll.



You are saying it yourself it is leaning. It is uncomfortable for you to believe in it now. But that's what is happening. Prima facie is Nadal and Toni.

And cut out the insults For fuck sake. I don't believe in giving Bad Rep but that is what i have to do now.

BEBE91
01-13-2012, 08:09 AM
Nina, Determination and physical prowess along with great coaching can break you into Top 4. Talent is no longer required in these condition. And i know you wont agree with it.

Determination and physical prowess are also talent... Idiot!!!

MatchFederer
01-13-2012, 08:11 AM
You are saying it yourself it is leaning. It is uncomfortable for you to believe in it now. But that's what is happening. Prima facie is Nadal and Toni.

And cut out the insults For fuck sake. I don't believe in giving Bad Rep but that is what i have to do now.

There is absolutely no discomfort whatsoever in me believing that is it is leaning increasingly to that at all. I have made mention of it several times. Anyway, some people aspire to become a beautifully crafted troll.

P.s. please throw some bad rep my way, for varieties sake if you wouldn't mind.

MatchFederer
01-13-2012, 08:11 AM
Determination and physical prowess are also talent... Idiot!!!

Largely non-tennis specific.

Shinoj
01-13-2012, 08:39 AM
Incredible is the ignorance of noticing a naturally gifted player in these parts. Its shameful really. But then what do you expect in an internet forum.

BEBE91
01-13-2012, 08:39 AM
Nobody becomes a great tennis player without a huge determination. No matter how "talented" you are...

Shinoj
01-13-2012, 08:44 AM
There is absolutely no discomfort whatsoever in me believing that is it is leaning increasingly to that at all. I have made mention of it several times. Anyway, some people aspire to become a beautifully crafted troll.

P.s. please throw some bad rep my way, for varieties sake if you wouldn't mind.


You get really happy by getting Good rep from kids.Eh ?:lol:

BEBE91
01-13-2012, 08:45 AM
Talent is not about style you hit the ball, its about winning matches..You can get a good technigue with good coaching, but if you cant win matches with your good technigue you are not talented. There are lots of players who hits the ball well but are not able to win matches... They are not talented.

Sri
01-13-2012, 08:48 AM
Talent is not about style you hit the ball, its about winning matches..You can get a good technigue with good coaching, but if you cant win matches with your good technigue you are not talented. There are lots of players who hits the ball well but are not able to win matches... They are not talented.
Nonsense. Talent is about having the ability to achieve something. Success is actually achieving it. Talent != Success.

leng jai
01-13-2012, 08:51 AM
Talent is not about style you hit the ball, its about winning matches..You can get a good technigue with good coaching, but if you cant win matches with your good technigue you are not talented. There are lots of players who hits the ball well but are not able to win matches... They are not talented.

Great another clown who can't see past anything but results.

MatchFederer
01-13-2012, 09:50 AM
You get really happy by getting Good rep from kids.Eh ?:lol:

No it's boring, that's why I'd like a bit of red to keep the scene fresh.

Logical
01-13-2012, 01:29 PM
If you dont have any argument why dont you just Fuck offFedulltards never have explanation.No logic:lol:

Shinoj
01-13-2012, 02:06 PM
Fedulltards never have explanation.No logic:lol:


No,once upon a time he had mono when he was 16. thats why he is declining.:lol:

Fumus
01-13-2012, 02:53 PM
Such a weak video. My left pinky could give a better analysis of the 2011 season.

Hey, let's string together a bunch of random clips of Sampras and Agassi making general comments about the last year in tennis.

Naudio Spanlatine
01-13-2012, 02:58 PM
i think Sampras is the most overrated player off court:o, who gives a shit what he thinks, go and play in your champions tour and stop talking:rolleyes:

Saberq
01-13-2012, 03:06 PM
i think Sampras is the most overrated player off court:o, who gives a shit what he thinks, go and play in your champions tour and stop talking:rolleyes:

dont be so primitive sweetheart ;)