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8 players from Ex - Yugoslavia in top 40!!!

petar_pan
01-11-2012, 12:07 AM
Novak Djoković #1, Janko Tipsarević #9, Marin Čilić #20, Viktor Troicki #21, Miloš Raonić #25, Ivan Ljubičić #30, Ivan Dodig #36, Bernard Tomić #37.
Some accomplishment. What about that!?

@Sweet Cleopatra
01-11-2012, 12:44 AM
Tito would be so proud. Blame Milosovic.

viruzzz
01-11-2012, 12:45 AM
I really won't include Milos and Tomic.
Who cares where they born? The only thing that matters is the country they have in their hearts.

shotgun
01-11-2012, 12:52 AM
Tomic wasn't even born in the Balkans, so it's nonsensical for Croats to claim him. Even Germans have more of a case here. :lol:

zlaja777
01-11-2012, 01:02 AM
Generally, it was always a very talented nation in various sports.

Pirata.
01-11-2012, 01:08 AM
Raonic and Tomic don't count :lol:

romismak
01-11-2012, 01:25 AM
Probably name of thread should have been written differently, but i agree - Raonic count 100% he was born in Montenegro and Tomic is countable if the name of thread would be little bit different, Bernard wasnīt born there, but still i think he should be counted.Itīs not like his grandpa emigrated and he didnīt know the language... i would count him.

petar_pan
01-11-2012, 01:39 AM
I really won't include Milos and Tomic.
Who cares where they born? The only thing that matters is the country they have in their hearts.

Are they from ex-yu? Yes. So, I don't know for what you are talking about.

:wavey:

Tomic wasn't even born in the Balkans, so it's nonsensical for Croats to claim him. Even Germans have more of a case here. :lol:

Don't troll.

fran70
01-11-2012, 01:41 AM
Slobo Zivojinovic heritage? :rolleyes:

petar_pan
01-11-2012, 02:00 AM
Probably name of thread should have been written differently, but i agree - Raonic count 100% he was born in Montenegro and Tomic is countable if the name of thread would be little bit different, Bernard wasnīt born there, but still i think he should be counted.Itīs not like his grandpa emigrated and he didnīt know the language... i would count him.

There is no even place for any question. I mean they thought to put him to play for Croatia.
His parents move to Germany when his mother was pregnant or some year eralier, he speaks croatian at home, allready was practising in Zagreb, they granted him with WC in Zagreb Challenger, he stated he fills like Croat. Yes he was born in Germany, but we definitely count him in this thread.

DanaKz
01-11-2012, 04:30 AM
I guess next move is to count players from Ex-British Empire, from Ex-Roman Empire and from Ex-Alexander-the-Great's Empire? I am in!

romismak
01-11-2012, 04:32 AM
There is no even place for any question. I mean they thought to put him to play for Croatia.
His parents move to Germany when his mother was pregnant or some year eralier, he speaks croatian at home, allready was practising in Zagreb, they granted him with WC in Zagreb Challenger, he stated he fills like Croat. Yes he was born in Germany, but we definitely count him in this thread.

Yes i know, i was explaining for those who donīt share this opinion. Guys like Milos and Bernard have families and speak the language, in interview they would say they are proud Canadians, Australians, but they must know where they came from that is sure thing.

Pirata.
01-11-2012, 04:36 AM
I guess next move is to count players from Ex-British Empire, from Ex-Roman Empire and from Ex-Alexander-the-Great's Empire? I am in!

The Commonwealth countries should thus be considered wholly British, so now they can boast two slams on two different surfaces and a current slam holder in Stosur :D

MuzzahLovah
01-11-2012, 04:40 AM
Who would want to claim Tomic? :haha: They are already stuck with Tipsy and Troicki, isn't that bad enough?

Pirata.
01-11-2012, 04:49 AM
:spit:

Kat_YYZ
01-11-2012, 05:59 AM
Who would want to claim Tomic? :haha: They are already stuck with Tipsy and Troicki, isn't that bad enough?

well... they are all inside the top 40, that is a good thing, so :unsure: what is your point? I'm sure Great Britain and their ONE player inside the top 100 would love to claim any of them.

allpro
01-11-2012, 07:16 AM
that's a staggering statistic.

angelina jolie recently shot a film in sarajevo. hopefully she starts a fad by adopting armies of former yugo babies....it’s america’s only hope.

duong
01-11-2012, 07:27 AM
There is no even place for any question. I mean they thought to put him to play for Croatia.
His parents move to Germany when his mother was pregnant or some year eralier, he speaks croatian at home, allready was practising in Zagreb, they granted him with WC in Zagreb Challenger, he stated he fills like Croat. Yes he was born in Germany, but we definitely count him in this thread.

Still he was brought-up in Australia, like Raonic in Canada, and then his main culture is from these countries.

I've known some children whose parents came from a foreign country : even if they did say they felt "different", the power of school and the local culture was much stronger in them than the power of family heritage.

MuzzahLovah
01-11-2012, 07:30 AM
well... they are all inside the top 40, that is a good thing, so :unsure: what is your point? I'm sure Great Britain and their ONE player inside the top 100 would love to claim any of them.

Don't you see the little flag by my name? I'm not British, and I don't really care about any of this absurd nationalist stuff, especially for artificial ex-nations like Yugoslavia.

samanosuke
01-11-2012, 07:52 AM
What Raonic and Tomic have with Ex-Yu ? Maybe their origins are from there but their tennis development didn't have anything it . With this logic half German world class sportsmen aren't germans . stupid logic

Time Violation
01-11-2012, 08:01 AM
What Raonic and Tomic have with Ex-Yu ? Maybe their origins are from there but their tennis development didn't have anything it . With this logic half German world class sportsmen aren't germans . stupid logic

How many were really developed here anyway? Djokovic was soon sent to Pilic's academy in Germany, and I think also Tipsy, Troicki, Ivanovic, Jankovic have spent a lot of time outside Serbia as well.

Boreas
01-11-2012, 08:02 AM
Africa should claim the whole top 100.

samanosuke
01-11-2012, 08:10 AM
How many were really developed here anyway? Djokovic was soon sent to Pilic's academy in Germany, and I think also Tipsy, Troicki, Ivanovic, Jankovic have spent a lot of time outside Serbia as well.

OK. maybe i formulated it wrong . Australia and Canada paid their tennis development, if they stayed here they would probably get nothing from Croatia or Yugoslavia/Serbia and Montenegro

duong
01-11-2012, 11:02 AM
How many were really developed here anyway? Djokovic was soon sent to Pilic's academy in Germany, and I think also Tipsy, Troicki, Ivanovic, Jankovic have spent a lot of time outside Serbia as well.

At least their childhood was in Serbia, then their culture, their memories are made of ex-yugoslavian material.

petar_pan
01-11-2012, 11:18 AM
Still he was brought-up in Australia, like Raonic in Canada, and then his main culture is from these countries.

I've known some children whose parents came from a foreign country : even if they did say they felt "different", the power of school and the local culture was much stronger in them than the power of family heritage.


I know all of that and I don't speak about that.
Will we speak about tennis?

Croats and Serbs have the right to be proud of both having 3 guys in the top 40, but no need to be claiming Ozzies and Canadians; it's not like they have more then enough top players.

They are from Autralia and Canada.

What Raonic and Tomic have with Ex-Yu ? Maybe their origins are from there but their tennis development didn't have anything it . With this logic half German world class sportsmen aren't germans . stupid logic

Surely that's not the same because Tomic and Raonic don't play for ex-yugoslavians countries but they have born there.



But why everybody try with negations of facts, let's talk about theme, let's talk about tennis, theirs accomplishments.

tampie
01-11-2012, 11:24 AM
Croats and Serbs have the right to be proud of both having 3 guys in the top 40, but no need to be claiming Ozzies and Canadians; it's not like they have more then enough top players.

stanch
01-11-2012, 11:30 AM
Yes, Miloš and Bernard don't feel Serbian/Croatian but that's because they grew up in Canada/Australia respectively. The thing is that Raonić's and Tomić's family moved to those countries due to the breakout of war in YU. They would maybe still live in Serbia, Montenegro, Croatia or Bosnia if the war didn't happen but we can't know how would they develop as tennis players.
So, yes, Yugoslavia would have 8 players in TOP40 but Serbia and Croatia have 6, 3 each.

Jomp1
01-11-2012, 12:03 PM
Wait, Tomic is #37? Quite remarkable with only one single tour semifinal. What's the highest ever without a final?

duong
01-11-2012, 01:03 PM
But why everybody try with negations of facts, let's talk about theme, let's talk about tennis, theirs accomplishments.

Ok, you're right, it's true that when I saw Tipsarevic against Raonic in Chenani final, I thought that it seemed to me that one day, someone had said that Tipsarevic used to play for Montenegro ?
Is it right, does he have montenegrin roots like Raonic ?

if it's true, for sure Raonic and Tipsy had that in their mind when they met.

ossie
01-11-2012, 02:17 PM
yugoslavia?

DanaKz
01-11-2012, 03:45 PM
yugoslavia?

Yeah, you know, the country ended 20 years ago. Some people do the same on some russian speaking sites - summing all ex-USSR medals after Olympics to claim they didn't lose to China and USA again (or didn't lose much).

StevoTG
01-11-2012, 04:03 PM
Wait, Tomic is #37? Quite remarkable with only one single tour semifinal. What's the highest ever without a final?

That's an interesting question.

abraxas21
01-11-2012, 06:51 PM
Yeah, you know, the country ended 20 years ago. Some people do the same on some russian speaking sites - summing all ex-USSR medals after Olympics to claim they didn't lose to China and USA again (or didn't lose much).

don't count those medals as your own yet

mother russia will come back calling its lost chickens one day

Kat_YYZ
01-11-2012, 09:07 PM
Wait, Tomic is #37? Quite remarkable with only one single tour semifinal. What's the highest ever without a final?
Tomic got to the quarterfinals of Wimbledon last year. That's better points than winning a 250 tourney ;)

yugoslavia?
Wikipedia?

finishingmove
01-11-2012, 09:24 PM
yugoslavia would've been leading the field in many things today

but no problem, nole showed wars and hunger are not enough to bring serbs down

tektonac
01-11-2012, 09:48 PM
Tito would be so proud. Blame Milosovic.

please stay away from the topic you may not fully understand.

mark73
01-11-2012, 09:57 PM
Novak Djoković #1, Janko Tipsarević #9, Marin Čilić #20, Viktor Troicki #21, Miloš Raonić #25, Ivan Ljubičić #30, Ivan Dodig #36, Bernard Tomić #37.
Some accomplishment. What about that!?

Well everyone is eventually from africa, so what is your fucking point??

finishingmove
01-11-2012, 10:09 PM
Well everyone is eventually from africa, so what is your fucking point??

well actually evolution said that neanderthals had to make room for homo sapiens

i guess one day slavic people will completely dominate the sport of tennis :shrug:

Corey Feldman
01-11-2012, 10:14 PM
its not Yugoslavia anymore?

EliSter
01-11-2012, 10:16 PM
Who would want to claim Tomic? :haha: They are already stuck with Tipsy and Troicki, isn't that bad enough?

Maybe they are 2 mugs overachevers...but better then 1 mug underacherver like with your Brits...:o

petar_pan
01-11-2012, 10:29 PM
And there is alot of young guys coming up: the best prospect of generation 1995 Nikola Milojevic of Belgrade, the best prospect of generation 1996 Borna Coric of Zagreb and the best prospect born in ex-yu ever, the best prospect of junior tennis, golden boy, Stefan Kozlov of Skopje (now under american flag).

Sauletekis
01-11-2012, 11:23 PM
Hmmm... Interesting... So Portugal got Bellucci....

Crowdmaker
01-12-2012, 01:44 AM
Well... to open thread like this after all and after so many Years!?
There is only one question that will never be answered (does not even belong to this sport);
Would Dream Team be challenged by Ex-Yugoslavia in Barcelona 92`s Olymipic games??

Topspindoctor
01-12-2012, 01:48 AM
don't count those medals as your own yet

mother russia will come back calling its lost chickens one day

With their declining population and no middle class to speak of? Doubtful.

hipolymer
01-12-2012, 02:50 AM
Don't you see the little flag by my name? I'm not British, and I don't really care about any of this absurd nationalist stuff, especially for artificial ex-nations like Yugoslavia.

If Yugoslavia was an artificial nation then I'd hate to see what you think of USA.

MuzzahLovah
01-12-2012, 03:19 AM
Maybe they are 2 mugs overachevers...but better then 1 mug underacherver like with your Brits...:o

Still not British :haha:

MuzzahLovah
01-12-2012, 03:29 AM
If Yugoslavia was an artificial nation then I'd hate to see what you think of USA.

Are you really that dumb? The American colonies revolted and formed a union that still exists. A collection of peoples in the Balkans were stuck into a single Kingdom after WWI and the dissolution of Austria-Hungary. That temporary arrangement ended years ago. There is no Yugoslav nationality.

thegreendestiny
01-12-2012, 05:41 AM
Amzing.

Balkinites seem to have natural athletic physiques. A lot of them are talented even in other sports. It's a shame they don't have enough facilities and resources to fully develop their talents. As one independent entity in the Olympics, I'm sure they could be ahead of Japan and Korea.

green25814
01-12-2012, 05:47 AM
Yugoslavia is an artificial nation

Tomic and Raonic learnt their trade in Australia and Canada, therefore their successes can't be claimed by anyone else.

Most of these players are specifically Serbian. The Serbs should definitely be proud, what they've acheived is pretty amazing, not so much for the rest of the Balkans.

scoutreporter
01-12-2012, 06:08 AM
Serbs have always been good at ball games.With population of 8 mil, they are one of the best in all ball games. Tennis, Volleyball, waterpolo, basketball, and to an lesser extend in handball and soccer( but they do have players in all top clubs,like Juventus, Inter, Man united and city, chelsea and so on...)

petar_pan
01-12-2012, 08:36 AM
Yugoslavia is an artificial nation

Tomic and Raonic learnt their trade in Australia and Canada, therefore their successes can't be claimed by anyone else.

Most of these players are specifically Serbian. The Serbs should definitely be proud, what they've acheived is pretty amazing, not so much for the rest of the Balkans.

Ljubicic, Tomic, Dodig and Cilic are Croats while Djokovic, Tipsarevic and Troicki are Serbs. Raonic is Montenegrin. Actually Troicki is Russian while Djokovic is Montenegrin but he fills like Serbian. Did You forgot Ivanisevic, Ancic, Prpic, Karlovic, Pilic, Franulovic, Jovanovic? Croatia is the best than any other ex-yu country in this sport. We have more than 120 ATP finals. Franjo Puncec and Josip Palada were among the best players in 1930's. So, it's tradition almost 100 years long.

Drugs Ruin Lives
01-12-2012, 10:19 AM
Why are Serbs/Croats so obsessed with nationality and race? No one cares. Get a life.

Machiavelli
01-12-2012, 10:40 AM
Why are Serbs/Croats so obsessed with nationality and race? No one cares. Get a life.

You would actually have to live here to understand it. History, Life, Mentality, Culture; everything had its influence in why the people here think this way. The rivalry in all sports, be it football, tennis, handball, basketball, water polo or any other sports will remain between this two countries forever.

Obsessed with nationality, i agree; but racial problems? No. We live in the 21st century, race stopped being an issue long time ago, not that it should have ever been one, and not to mention Croatia is a country that is depending on tourism, so we have to be open to the entire world; there will always be some drunk hooligans chanting racist remarks towards players (at stadiums), idiots stay idiots, but this shit happens all around Europe...

duong
01-12-2012, 10:41 AM
the best prospect of junior tennis, golden boy, Stefan Kozlov of Skopje (now under american flag).

I didn't know about Kozlov : how old did he come to the USA ?

PS : he still seems quite young for me to be as laudative as you are. But generally speaking you are right about the number of prospects connected to this region, also Krajinovic it's maybe too early to write him out. As for Ljubicic and Dodig, I know some Bosnian people on MTF also claim them as theirs :p .
By the way, from what you say Djokovic is a bit Montenegrin and not Tipsarevic ?

petar_pan
01-12-2012, 10:46 AM
Why are Serbs/Croats so obsessed with nationality and race? No one cares. Get a life.

I conclude you talk about me but I just answer to this guy above that he mistake. So, you completely failed.

I didn't know about Kozlov : how old did he come to the USA ?

PS : he still seems quite young for me to be as laudative as you are. But generally speaking you are right about the number of prospects connected to this region, also Krajinovic it's maybe too early to write him out. As for Ljubicic and Dodig, I know some Bosnian people on MTF also claim them as theirs :p .
By the way, from what you say Djokovic is a bit Montenegrin and not Tipsarevic ?

I don't know. I just know he lives on Florida. Maybe he is there only because of tennis, maybe his family went there before he start play tennis. I doubt Krajinovic will ever be in top of the game. Unfortunately he has too much problems with injuries. As for Ljubicic and Dodig, why wouldn't they? They are from Bosnia.
Djokovic paternal grandfather is from some village near Niksic, Montenegro. I don't know anything about Tipsarevic is connected with Montenegro.

RIboy
01-12-2012, 11:14 AM
come on guys, stop living in the past

tektonac
01-12-2012, 02:24 PM
Ljubicic, Tomic, Dodig and Cilic are Croats while Djokovic, Tipsarevic and Troicki are Serbs. Raonic is Montenegrin. Actually Troicki is Russian while Djokovic is Montenegrin but he fills like Serbian. Did You forgot Ivanisevic, Ancic, Prpic, Karlovic, Pilic, Franulovic, Jovanovic? Croatia is the best than any other ex-yu country in this sport. We have more than 120 ATP finals. Franjo Puncec and Josip Palada were among the best players in 1930's. So, it's tradition almost 100 years long.

Djokovic is Montenegrin as much as Tesla is Croat.

MOhero
01-12-2012, 04:32 PM
Ljubicic, Tomic, Dodig and Cilic are Croats while Djokovic, Tipsarevic and Troicki are Serbs. Raonic is Montenegrin. Actually Troicki is Russian while Djokovic is Montenegrin but he fills like Serbian. Did You forgot Ivanisevic, Ancic, Prpic, Karlovic, Pilic, Franulovic, Jovanovic? Croatia is the best than any other ex-yu country in this sport. We have more than 120 ATP finals. Franjo Puncec and Josip Palada were among the best players in 1930's. So, it's tradition almost 100 years long.

Correction!!!
Ivan Ljubičić (born in Banja Luka, Bosna i Hercegovina)
Ivan Dodig (born in Međugorje, Bosna i Hercegovina)
Marin Čilić (born in Međugorje, Bosna i Hercegovina)
Bernard Tomic (born in Germany, parents from Tuzla, Bosna i Hercegovina)
This is fact! ;)

samanosuke
01-12-2012, 04:39 PM
Actually I am pleasantly surprised . MTF clearly going on better. I mean, usually it takes a post or two to few Balkan fools start to debate who is who's and who is bigger nationalist, and now needed 4 pages . Keep it up guys

petar_pan
01-12-2012, 04:48 PM
Djokovic is Montenegrin as much as Tesla is Croat.

His paternal grandfather is, but he is Serb. His grandfather is from Jasenovo Polje, Niksic, Montenegro. There are a planty Djokovic's in that village. And yes, they are Montenegrins. They came in that village from Čevo, Cetinje 200 years ago.

http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%88%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE_% D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%99%D0%B5

Correction!!!
Ivan Ljubičić (born in Banja Luka, Bosna i Hercegovina)
Ivan Dodig (born in Međugorje, Bosna i Hercegovina)
Marin Čilić (born in Međugorje, Bosna i Hercegovina)
Bernard Tomic (born in Germany, parents from Tuzla, Bosna i Hercegovina)
This is fact! ;)

Fact is that you have some problem. Because you are saying they are not Croats.

MOhero
01-12-2012, 04:55 PM
His paternal grandfather is. He is from Jasenovo Polje, Niksic, Montenegro. There are a planty Djokovic's in that village. And yes, they are Montenegrins. They came in that village from Čevo, Cetinje 200 years ago.

http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%88%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE_% D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%99%D0%B5



Fact is that you have some problem. Because you say they are not Croats.

Fact is fact! THEY ARE FROM BOSNIA!!!

petar_pan
01-12-2012, 05:04 PM
Fact is fact! THEY ARE FROM BOSNIA!!!

Didn't I say that already? Are you that blind or what? Dannish guy talked about nationality and I respond to him who is of which nationality, and than you are saying something complete defferent of theme: where they are born. So you really miss all theme and you shouldn't talk about that.

PS And I said you have right to claime them.

samanosuke
01-12-2012, 05:04 PM
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MOhero
01-12-2012, 05:11 PM
Didn't I say that already? Are you that blind or what? Dannish guy talked about nationality and I respond to him who is of which nationality, and than you are saying something complete defferent of theme: where they are born. So you really miss all theme and you shouldn't talk about that.


"Are you that blind or what?" :(
They are Croats, but no from Croatia!
They are Croats from Bosnia!!!! :)

green25814
01-12-2012, 05:27 PM
You would actually have to live here to understand it. History, Life, Mentality, Culture; everything had its influence in why the people here think this way. The rivalry in all sports, be it football, tennis, handball, basketball, water polo or any other sports will remain between this two countries forever.

Obsessed with nationality, i agree; but racial problems? No. We live in the 21st century, race stopped being an issue long time ago, not that it should have ever been one, and not to mention Croatia is a country that is depending on tourism, so we have to be open to the entire world; there will always be some drunk hooligans chanting racist remarks towards players (at stadiums), idiots stay idiots, but this shit happens all around Europe...

Oh really? Then why do you guys keep going on about Tomic and Raonic? From the way you guys talk about them you'd think they had some kind of innate genetic advantage due to having Balkan ancestry, lol.

I said it before, I've said it again, you can't claim these guys. They grew up in different systems.

And in any case, unless you are part of your nation's development program, sharing the same nationality of good tennis players is nothing to be 'proud' of. Nationalism in tennis is retarded, its an individual sport.

petar_pan
01-12-2012, 05:27 PM
"Are you that blind or what?" :(
They are Croats, but no from Croatia!
They are Croats from Bosnia!!!! :)

I was just too rude, sorry.

:wavey:

Oh really? Then why do you guys keep going on about Tomic and Raonic? From the way you guys talk about them you'd think they had some kind of innate genetic advantage due to having Balkan ancestry, lol.

I said it before, I've said it again, you can't claim these guys. The grew up in different systems.

And in any case, unless you are part of your nation's development program, sharing the same nationality of good tennis players is nothing to be 'proud' of. Nationalism in tennis is retarded, its an individual sport.

I don't know whar other posters think, but I don't claime anybody, actually I claime just croatian players. I very well know Tomic is australian and Raonic is canadian player. I just wrote they are born in ex-yu. Nothing more, nothing less.

MOhero
01-12-2012, 06:06 PM
Oh really? Then why do you guys keep going on about Tomic and Raonic? From the way you guys talk about them you'd think they had some kind of innate genetic advantage due to having Balkan ancestry, lol.

I said it before, I've said it again, you can't claim these guys. They grew up in different systems.

And in any case, unless you are part of your nation's development program, sharing the same nationality of good tennis players is nothing to be 'proud' of. Nationalism in tennis is retarded, its an individual sport.

"Nationalism in tennis is retarded, its an individual sport."
Wrong, apsolute!
Australian Open 2012, WCQ Men = 9 (8 AUS + 1 others - junior Vesely, CZE). Likewise is on Wimbledon, US Open and Roland Garros. Individual sport? No! Nationalism - YES!

Marc23
01-19-2012, 01:07 AM
Why are Serbs/Croats so obsessed with nationality and race?

Because Tomic decided to play mixed doubles with Jelena Jankovic :worship:

DanaKz
01-19-2012, 02:22 AM
Stefan Kozlov of Skopje (now under american flag).

Stefan Kozlov's father is russian: http://www.kozlovtennis.com/

fast_clay
01-19-2012, 02:31 AM
3 of those 8 players are in the 2012 Balkan Chair Throwing Championships in the garden enclosure behind Rod Laver Arena on Day 8... should kick off around 2pm... come down and see some action

allpro
01-19-2012, 03:16 AM
3 of those 8 players are in the 2012 Balkan Chair Throwing Championships in the garden enclosure behind Rod Laver Arena on Day 8... should kick off around 2pm... come down and see some action

:lol:

Branimir
01-19-2012, 04:31 AM
Djokovic is not from this planet.

thegreendestiny
01-19-2012, 05:18 AM
With all the arguing and fighting in this thread, I am not even surprised Yugoslavia dissolved. :o

fast_clay
01-19-2012, 05:31 AM
3 of those 8 players are in the 2012 Balkan Chair Throwing Championships in the garden enclosure behind Rod Laver Arena on Day 8... should kick off around 2pm... come down and see some action

With all the arguing and fighting in this thread, I am not even surprised Yugoslavia dissolved. :o

i dunno if you should knock a culture until you try it...

come on down and grab a chair... you really don't know how much fun it is until you get involved...

tnosugar
01-19-2012, 06:26 AM
Because Tomic decided to play mixed doubles with Jelena Jankovic :worship:

not race... just nationality and ethnicity. it's a mystery my dear Watson....

petar_pan
01-19-2012, 10:06 AM
Stefan Kozlov's father is russian: http://www.kozlovtennis.com/

I though he is because of his name and surname, as a name of his son. It's not Macedonians are good in tennis, bu Russians, they are.

TheRafaelNadal
01-19-2012, 11:46 AM
Who would want to claim Tomic? :haha: They are already stuck with Tipsy and Troicki, isn't that bad enough?

Hahaha.


Also Tomic isn't Tomic's parents Croat? doesn't matter where he's born. He's a Croat. Though he is also an aussie citizen so technically he's Australian.