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Australian Open darkhorses!

thefish11
01-11-2012, 01:02 AM
Anybody outside Novak, Roger or Andy have a chance? Dolgo or Milos make any noise? Interested in your thoughts, thanks.

yesh222
01-11-2012, 01:07 AM
I'm very interested in if Monfils can find his Doha SF level and keep it for 2 weeks.

Mountaindewslave
01-11-2012, 01:19 AM
i don't know rafael nadal might have a good chance.... :o

Topspindoctor
01-11-2012, 01:21 AM
Anybody outside Novak, Roger or Andy have a chance? Dolgo or Milos make any noise? Interested in your thoughts, thanks.

Let me get this straight. You include Mugray - who is a slamless clown and a joke on the big stage and you don't include Nadal who is a 10 slam champ and a former AO champion? To answer your question, Mugray is a darkhorse for the title - if he faces Almagro in the finals :o

Mountaindewslave
01-11-2012, 01:25 AM
Let me get this straight. You include Mugray - who is a slamless clown and a joke on the big stage and you don't include Nadal who is a 10 slam champ and a former AO champion? To answer your question, Mugray is a darkhorse for the title - if he faces Almagro in the finals :o

ahhahhahh this pretty much, strange to put Murray as a favorite but not Nadal. I get Murray has had fantastic form in recent times BUT he certainly has not ever shown the ability to bring it when it counts on the big stage, in moments of pressure and moments when has to fight from being down...

Topspindoctor
01-11-2012, 01:28 AM
ahhahhahh this pretty much, strange to put Murray as a favorite but not Nadal. I get Murray has had fantastic form in recent times BUT he certainly has not ever shown the ability to bring it when it counts on the big stage, in moments of pressure and moments when has to fight from being down...

:superlol: Mugray got taken to 3 by Kukushkin and Muller and beat green Tomic. That's good form? Wait till he runs into anyone good and he'll get sent packing from AO in tears.

rubbERR
01-11-2012, 01:31 AM
Rafa has no chance.

Mountaindewslave
01-11-2012, 01:39 AM
Rafa has no chance.

hahah it's funny you are so confident of that but let me remind you he has won the tournament before. you are being unrealistic saying he has 'no chance'. he has a great chance. even if he had not won a match in all of 2011 he would have a great chance because he is one of the best players in the world and the biggest fighter of them all....

plus lastly let me remind you that this is not the WOrld Tour Finals or the US OPEN, but SLOW hard courts..... maybe you had forgotten?

viruzzz
01-11-2012, 01:44 AM
I don't see Rafa with a chance, he can't win this.
I think Nole/Tsonga/Murray are the favorites here. Tsonga or Andy could beat Nole in the final, and Nole must have to play really, really good to win over them.

Remember, folks, that the match vs Fed in AO11 was very close in the first 2 sets, so, don't think of Nole as an invincible warrior. Tsonga's level at the end of the year was os much bigger than him.

And Murray... He needs, he really needs to win a slam.

zlaja777
01-11-2012, 01:56 AM
Tipsarevic, Ferrer, Raonic...but to go all the way up to the finals, outside top 4 maybe only Delpo at 100% or Tsonga but they can't be considered dark-horses anymore.

Pirata.
01-11-2012, 02:07 AM
Despite being slamless, Murray has more chances than Rafa because he's better on hard courts. Rafa is a better player, but Murray is arguably a better hard court player.

Murray still won't win though.

Sunset of Age
01-11-2012, 02:09 AM
Isner. :silly: :worship: :p

out_here_grindin
01-11-2012, 02:10 AM
Tipsarevic. And no I am not kidding

Mountaindewslave
01-11-2012, 02:49 AM
Despite being slamless, Murray has more chances than Rafa because he's better on hard courts. Rafa is a better player, but Murray is arguably a better hard court player.

Murray still won't win though.

in general Murray is a better hard court player but not better than Nadal on hard court IN the best of 5 format, or SLAMS.

it is no coincidence that Nadal has multiple Grand Slams on hard court and just recently at last year's US OPEN (hard court) beat Murray. Nadal is definitely the better hard court player when going the distance in best of 5. Murray is a better hard court player out of the main events in tennis, which unfortunately don't really matter nearly as much in the full spectrum of things.

Murray doesn't have more chances and you merely using the fact that Murray is great at best of 3 hardcourt tournaments means nothing. how can a player who is worse at hard court in a best of 5 format have a better, or more, chances than a player who is good at them?

the mistake you make is mixing things together as though tennis is always the same. just because Murray is more consistant on hard court does NOT mean he is a better hard court player than Nadal.

quality over quanitity.

delusional of all of you to imply Nadal does not have big chances at AUstralia this year. if he wins the title how will you all feel hahah :o

lleytonfan!
01-11-2012, 02:51 AM
Hewitt!

Crowdmaker
01-12-2012, 02:47 AM
Ivan Dodig will do damage here, mark my words!:)

MuzzahLovah
01-12-2012, 04:49 AM
Murray is the dark horse- he has to overcome 2/3 previous champions, but I'm hopeful he can do it. Other than him, maybe Tsonga?

MOhero
01-12-2012, 03:19 PM
David Ferrer

alter ego
01-12-2012, 03:31 PM
in general Murray is a better hard court player but not better than Nadal on hard court IN the best of 5 format, or SLAMS.

it is no coincidence that Nadal has multiple Grand Slams on hard court and just recently at last year's US OPEN (hard court) beat Murray. Nadal is definitely the better hard court player when going the distance in best of 5. Murray is a better hard court player out of the main events in tennis, which unfortunately don't really matter nearly as much in the full spectrum of things.

Murray doesn't have more chances and you merely using the fact that Murray is great at best of 3 hardcourt tournaments means nothing. how can a player who is worse at hard court in a best of 5 format have a better, or more, chances than a player who is good at them?

the mistake you make is mixing things together as though tennis is always the same. just because Murray is more consistant on hard court does NOT mean he is a better hard court player than Nadal.

quality over quanitity.



It seems that your tardism has somehow blocked your memory and you are unable to remember that Murray has beaten Mugdal at HC slams.

thehotstuff66
01-12-2012, 03:31 PM
hell, since we are all going off the rails, i'll put my boy dolgopolov in there, lol....if fed doesnt win, then either joker, dolgopolov, or Tsonga will win...

But seriously, i'm not counting Rafa out....that man is a beast and always seem to bounce back...history has proven that.....

So barring that, Rafa...cant believe i am saying that as I am SO not a fan...but his desire to win and his toughness, never to be counted out.

cat

Saberq
01-12-2012, 03:40 PM
I don't see Rafa with a chance, he can't win this.
I think Nole/Tsonga/Murray are the favorites here. Tsonga or Andy could beat Nole in the final, and Nole must have to play really, really good to win over them.

Remember, folks, that the match vs Fed in AO11 was very close in the first 2 sets, so, don't think of Nole as an invincible warrior. Tsonga's level at the end of the year was os much bigger than him.

And Murray... He needs, he really needs to win a slam.

:facepalm:.....

eieieishockey
01-12-2012, 03:49 PM
Hewitt!

The guy you mentioned belongs to the old-timer tour playing with pistol pete, pat cash & co...:wavey:

finishingmove
01-12-2012, 03:58 PM
Tsonga
Monfils
Young
Blake

Swiss_Bagels17
01-12-2012, 04:26 PM
Ferrer
Raonic
Dolgopolov
Berdych
Tsonga

RoddickFan.
01-12-2012, 04:30 PM
Noone has mentioned Andy Roddick, who is definitely in the mix as well :shrug:

Li Ching Yuen
01-12-2012, 04:36 PM
Wait for the draw to make the predictions that will fail miserably as always.

romismak
01-12-2012, 04:39 PM
If we are talking about title than only darkhorse is i think Tsonga. Rafa, Andy and Roger are co-favortes of AO after Nole - who is by far biggest favorit and i would be surprised if he didn´t win this. And together with Tsonga they are the only 5 players i think can win, nobody else can do it. But if you mean darkhorses in term of making good run in AO- QF-SF than i would say Berdych, Dolgopolov, Raonic, Tomic, Baghdatis, Monfils can make some upset. I didn´t mentioned guys like Ferrer or Delpo, i think they will only make it as far as their draw can get them- i mean Ferrer with luck will make his QF-part and loose in QF to somebody better. And Delpo´s form still nothing special won´t make further than 4R, maybe QF with good draw. Tipsy or Almagro, maximum 4R thanks to draw. Fish has his own QF-part so we will see if he can hold his posiition in 4R against somebody from 9-12th.

RIboy
01-12-2012, 05:09 PM
Viola!!!!

Mateya
01-12-2012, 05:19 PM
Seppi is always a dark horse and I'm riding it.

:crazy:

Mountaindewslave
01-12-2012, 06:23 PM
It seems that your tardism has somehow blocked your memory and you are unable to remember that Murray has beaten Mugdal at HC slams.

a close match in the states and at Australia when Nadal was clearly injury affected??

there is no doubt that Nadal plays better in hard court grand slams than Murray, it's silly to suggest otherwise regardless of the H2H

Certinfy
01-12-2012, 06:33 PM
Tsonga is perhaps the only other player outside the top 4 capable of taking the title.

Guys like Berdych, Monfils, Del Potro (if he doesn't play as shit as he did in Sydney) are capable of pulling of upsets and making a SF though.

Raonic could have a good run too.

Certinfy
01-12-2012, 06:36 PM
a close match in the states and at Australia when Nadal was clearly injury affected??

there is no doubt that Nadal plays better in hard court grand slams than Murray, it's silly to suggest otherwise regardless of the H2H
Close match at the US Open? You're kidding, right? The last 2 sets were tight but the 1st 2 sets were VERY one-sided. Although the second set was 7-6 it shouldn't have been anywhere near that tight.

:haha: Rafa himself admitted he got himself injured near the end of the 2nd set, and still up to that point Andy was outplaying him.

So, what's your point? :stupid:

Sauletekis
01-12-2012, 06:40 PM
Schuettler after beating the Gooch, certainly win this status!

EliSter
01-12-2012, 07:00 PM
Troicki gona troll every1 and make the finals

Stronga23
01-12-2012, 07:14 PM
Close match at the US Open? You're kidding, right? The last 2 sets were tight but the 1st 2 sets were VERY one-sided. Although the second set was 7-6 it shouldn't have been anywhere near that tight.

:haha: Rafa himself admitted he got himself injured near the end of the 2nd set, and still up to that point Andy was outplaying him.

So, what's your point? :stupid:

Expect big things from Tomas and Gael I feel it just hope La Monf doesnt let me down like he usually does epect when he plays Nadal in Doha :worship: