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Djokovic gets rejected by Turkish futures tournament director

Luinir
01-10-2012, 02:28 PM
http://www.tenisdunyasi.net/haber/novaktan-marsele-sms-1722

Novak asked to Marsel Ilhan with SMS (ATP no 113) for wildcard in future tournament for his brother Marko Djokovic.

"Marcel, happy new year! Wish you all the best in 2012. I am texting you regarding you My brother Marko. He was playing some futures in Antalya and earned 10 points. But he wasnt playing for one year because of surgery. In this moment he is still not in main draw of tournaments in the same place in Antalya! Main draw starts on 16 jan. i want to ask you if you can somehow ask the Turkish Federation for WC main draw for him that week or any other week. he would play to 2-3 weeks there. his name is Marko Djokovic. please let me know. thank you. Novak Djokovic."

Then he sent another SMS to Can Uner who has been coach of Marsel.

"Hello Can Uner. Yes, it would be great of we can have two WC (16 jan and one week after) If not, then one would be good as well. Thank you and sorry for disturbing."

Marsel said about it to federation but tournament director rejected it because of Marko's coach Nikola Jovanovic. Marko played some tournaments in Turkey at the end of 2011. At one of those tournaments Jovanovic got into a unpleasant discussion.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is the number #1 of the world. He asks wildcard to ATP no 113, then gets rejected. :devil:

Certinfy
01-10-2012, 02:38 PM
What the fuck :haha: That's just weird.

Gagsquet
01-10-2012, 02:44 PM
Djokovic what a disgusting human being. Good thing he is exposed like that :haha:

Classic thread :yeah:

Time Violation
01-10-2012, 02:52 PM
And this is news...? Marko is barely top 1000. :)

Sheva
01-10-2012, 03:02 PM
Is it so strange for someone to help his family/brother?

Johnny Groove
01-10-2012, 03:03 PM
SMS?

Come on Nole, be a man and call, let them hear your voice (though Australia time zone may affect). I doubt they'd refuse a request from Federer or Nadal.

Or maybe it is the coach's fault? Who knows what brouhaha occurred in Turkey last year with the coach.

stanch
01-10-2012, 03:04 PM
Djokovic what a disgusting human being. Good thing he is exposed like that :haha:

Classic thread :yeah:

Oh, please, this is such a commom thing in tennis. Asking for a WC for brother is nothing weird.

rinnegan
01-10-2012, 03:06 PM
Shame on him for asking a very small favor for his beloved brother!

arm
01-10-2012, 03:08 PM
:rolls: :haha: I don't know which is funnier: the info itself or the fact that they made it "news". :facepalm:

EDIT: or some of the replies here. :lol:

Lopez
01-10-2012, 03:11 PM
What an asshole, trying to help out his brother :rolleyes:

His messages were friendly even, what the fuck is wrong with you people?

Puschkin
01-10-2012, 03:13 PM
First of all, is this really true?
Secondly, it is a cultural thing. Helping family and friends above all is natural for someone coming from the Balkans, while doing things this way is corruption for people in other cultures.

Lee
01-10-2012, 03:16 PM
How come so far no request for this to be moved to Nole's forum? :scratch:

Sunset of Age
01-10-2012, 03:25 PM
What's wrong with asking some help for your younger brother? :confused:

Ah. Troll Attempt. Fail.

Mystique
01-10-2012, 03:31 PM
Nice story
Now all we need is Novak's dad and uncle to pay a visit to the man who dared turn him down and it will give you an even better follow-up troll opportunity

Chris Kuerten
01-10-2012, 03:44 PM
If it was Nadal Uncle Toni would have had the Turkish federation shut down, Djokovic has a lot to learn about mafia politics.

simplet
01-10-2012, 03:47 PM
How the fuck would you even know this? Did you steal Djokovic's cellphone?

bokehlicious
01-10-2012, 03:50 PM
How come so far no request for this to be moved to Nole's forum? :scratch:

Move it to the Serbian forums since it doesn't involve only Nole.

rinnegan
01-10-2012, 03:50 PM
They better beware. Nole just wrote their names in his Death Note.

http://i41.tinypic.com/5wkmip.jpg

Luinir
01-10-2012, 04:07 PM
This is true. I know the site owners and they have strong contact with both Marsel and his coach. Can Uner said about it to site owners. I have contact with them also.

rinnegan
01-10-2012, 04:12 PM
This is true. I know the site owners and they have strong contact with both Marsel and his coach. Can Uner said about it to site owners. I have contact with them also.

http://naturallyalise.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/whitney-houston-show-me-the-receipts-gif.gif

Luinir
01-10-2012, 04:23 PM
Lol, you are funny. I think story was interesting and just posted it. If you can't handle even this, just don't post.

rinnegan
01-10-2012, 04:25 PM
I'm just kidding. I'm not taking this seriously.

Hypnotize
01-10-2012, 04:32 PM
Djokovic what a disgusting human being. Good thing he is exposed like that :haha:

Classic thread :yeah:
Stupid post, even by your standards.

I think it's great that he did this for his brother although I question why this was ever made public.

Sauletekis
01-10-2012, 04:36 PM
Everything deserves a thread nowadays in MTF. Seems like people think we are still in off-season...

scarecrows
01-10-2012, 04:52 PM
it's not like he was trying to buy it

Bashak
01-10-2012, 05:04 PM
Sharing this with the press was a stupid move on marsel's part. As if he has leverage with the turkish federation... I have my own suspicions why this was made public but I don't really care to speculate.

tangerine_dream
01-10-2012, 05:06 PM
This is almost as big and controversial as last season's Dancing With The Stars winner.

nole_no1
01-10-2012, 05:27 PM
So what? He just wanted to help his younger brother
Did he kill somebody? Did he swear anybody? I'm sorry but I don't get it :confused:
Just for fun? Oh then i get it :yeah:

tennizen
01-10-2012, 05:32 PM
In earlier times, wars would have been started to deal with insults like this.

Mechlan
01-10-2012, 05:41 PM
:lol: And the big deal is what? He's allowed to ask. That's how the world works, people.

Slice Winner
01-10-2012, 05:45 PM
Probably should have asked himself, but I don't see the problem here.
I'm sure Dijana wouldn't have asked so nicely...

Nirjhor
01-10-2012, 06:11 PM
How the fuck would you even know this? Did you steal Djokovic's cellphone?

:haha:

By the way, I think Nole should've given a call to the tournament director himself. He shouldn't have done SMS'ing with an ATP player and his coach. If Nole talked with the director directly, I think he wouldn't refuse him. :)

Hypnotize
01-10-2012, 06:20 PM
Sharing this with the press was a stupid move on marsel's part. As if he has leverage with the turkish federation... I have my own suspicions why this was made public but I don't really care to speculate.
I've no idea why he would do it but if Marsel leaked this then he's the only one who comes out of it looking bad.

Sofonda Cox
01-10-2012, 06:23 PM
Djokovic what a disgusting human being

Like most of its fans :cool:

abraxas21
01-10-2012, 06:39 PM
i don't find it all that wrong

but i do think it's funny that he got rejected :lol:

finishingmove
01-10-2012, 06:46 PM
i think his brother needs a new coach

Todd Martin maybe.

zlaja777
01-10-2012, 07:42 PM
How pathetic you have to be to release something like this in public? Whats wrong with asking a favor for his brother?

Slice Winner
01-10-2012, 07:45 PM
i think his brother needs a new coach

Todd Martin maybe.

He served Nole well in the past ;)

nole_no1
01-10-2012, 07:48 PM
How pathetic you have to be to release something like this in public? Whats wrong with asking a favor for his brother?

+1
I think the most pathetic ones in this story are Ilhan and his coach or whoever released this in public

tampie
01-10-2012, 07:50 PM
His brother sucks big time (on and of the court :) ) - he'd better stop playing tennis. For him to ask his brother to help is more pathetic than Nole doing so, just a way to help your family.

And he'd get rid of his coach when it's because of his misbehaviour; I can imagine that a tournament director refuses helping a guy out who caused trouble before.

156mphserve
01-10-2012, 08:22 PM
At first I thought Nole wanted a WC to this tournament for some reason and was rejected by the tournament director, now that would have been funny:lol:

Petrovic
01-10-2012, 08:31 PM
What a ridicilous thread...

diurpaneus
01-10-2012, 08:36 PM
Djokovic what a disgusting human being. Good thing he is exposed like that :haha:

Classic thread :yeah:

He is even more disgusting than guys that snort coke and then put the blame on someone else.

samanosuke
01-10-2012, 08:37 PM
I heard that Fed's daughters were asking a WC for double but they were also rejected

decrepitude
01-10-2012, 08:45 PM
Now I got the impression from the opening post that it wasn't disapproving of Novak asking the favour, but of the Tournament Director for refusing :shrug:

KarlyM
01-10-2012, 08:58 PM
It must be a slow news day... :zzz:

MIMIC
01-10-2012, 09:02 PM
Djokovic what a disgusting human being. Good thing he is exposed like that :haha:

Classic thread :yeah:


DERP :stupid:

Sombrerero loco
01-10-2012, 09:09 PM
:facepalm:

asmazif
01-10-2012, 09:15 PM
At first I thought Nole wanted a WC to this tournament for some reason and was rejected by the tournament director, now that would have been funny:lol:

Those were my thoughts too - Definitely unfair on the players for Nole to go to Turkey for some random match practice, slaughter everyone and come back to Australia.

SENSE

Sombrerero loco
01-10-2012, 09:26 PM
why not paying money for it like many players do?

tennisfan856
01-10-2012, 09:36 PM
he should've directly called the organizers, not involve ilhan in this.

Mateya
01-10-2012, 10:18 PM
Clientalism at it's finest. :cool:

Nah, nothing serious. Novak doing what he can to help his poor brother :hug:

Maybe he comes to our futures event, last year we had Cilic's younger brother here. He got trashed in the first round by some austrian, but it was nice to watch. :devil: It would be nice to see Djokovic's younger brother as well.

Ash86
01-10-2012, 10:51 PM
Nothing wrong with asking for the wildcard but he should have called the tournament director as others have said. Pretty cheap to just text another ATP player and hope they sort it out for you based on who you are... Kind of assuming a player has more control over tournaments in their country than I expect they do anyway. Maybe he thinks every country treats their top player like Serbia treats Nole. ;)

Jovard
01-10-2012, 11:53 PM
Nole has Ilhan's and his coach'es phone numbers :eek:

Topspindoctor
01-11-2012, 12:35 AM
Looks like this clown is trying to ride his last name to easy WC's.

Mountaindewslave
01-11-2012, 01:34 AM
Is it so strange for someone to help his family/brother?

poor class to use your clout in the tennis world to pressure tournament advisers and/or organizers to let a family member of yours get into a tournament not based on the player's talent but based on your power as #1 in the world.

helping out a family member would be giving them money, paying for their school, not trying to pressure or bribe organizers with your good will as #1 player in the world to let your low ranked brother get a wildcard into a tournament.

just bad class.

@Sweet Cleopatra
01-11-2012, 01:41 AM
May be his mother asked him to do it. If he refuses they will think he is a bad brother that doesn't want to help his brother.

BrunoBeidacki
01-11-2012, 01:42 AM
That's not true. I don't believe Djoko would right with so many english mistakes.

zlaja777
01-11-2012, 01:52 AM
poor class to use your clout in the tennis world to pressure tournament advisers and/or organizers to let a family member of yours get into a tournament not based on the player's talent but based on your power as #1 in the world.

helping out a family member would be giving them money, paying for their school, not trying to pressure or bribe organizers with your good will as #1 player in the world to let your low ranked brother get a wildcard into a tournament.

just bad class.

http://i53.tinypic.com/in6g3k.gif

Corey Feldman
01-11-2012, 01:52 AM
thought title was - Djokovic gets rejected by Nole Fan because she met a Scot

http://i53.tinypic.com/in6g3k.gif:lol:

Corey Feldman
01-11-2012, 03:02 AM
http://www.tenisdunyasi.net/haber/novaktan-marsele-sms-1722

Novak asked to Marsel Ilhan with SMS (ATP no 113) for wildcard in future tournament for his brother Marko Djokovic.

"Marcel, happy new year! Wish you all the best in 2012. I am texting you regarding you My brother Marko. He was playing some futures in Antalya and earned 10 points. But he wasnt playing for one year because of surgery. In this moment he is still not in main draw of tournaments in the same place in Antalya! Main draw starts on 16 jan. i want to ask you if you can somehow ask the Turkish Federation for WC main draw for him that week or any other week. he would play to 2-3 weeks there. his name is Marko Djokovic. please let me know. thank you. Novak Djokovic."

Then he sent another SMS to Can Uner who has been coach of Marsel.

"Hello Can Uner. Yes, it would be great of we can have two WC (16 jan and one week after) If not, then one would be good as well. Thank you and sorry for disturbing."

Marsel said about it to federation but tournament director rejected it because of Marko's coach Nikola Jovanovic. Marko played some tournaments in Turkey at the end of 2011. At one of those tournaments Jovanovic got into a unpleasant discussion.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is the number #1 of the world. He asks wildcard to ATP no 113, then gets rejected. :devil:this is even worse than PM'ing for votes during the pop con

Mountaindewslave
01-11-2012, 03:06 AM
http://i53.tinypic.com/in6g3k.gif

hahah i'm not saying Rafael's father's outbursts are classy either, but trying to pressure tournament organizer's/ tennis India, to give his what? 1000th ranked brother a wildcard into their tournament?

you all can call it just a 'nice brother' but it is inappropriate given his #1 ranking and position in the tennis world. did he really think his stature would pressure them into giving someone a wildcard based not on talent but on family. is that how we want tennis to be? a sport based on family and stature, not talent?

you can't really have it both ways so I am surprised Djokovic would ask them this, not as simple 'nice brother' like some of you make

Looner
01-11-2012, 03:34 AM
That's it. Djokovic claim as an all-time great has been ruined by the refusal of this tournament director.

swebright
01-11-2012, 03:42 AM
It's just nepotism at its best ........

MIMIC
01-11-2012, 03:52 AM
hahah i'm not saying Rafael's father's outbursts are classy either, but trying to pressure tournament organizer's/ tennis India, to give his what? 1000th ranked brother a wildcard into their tournament?

you all can call it just a 'nice brother' but it is inappropriate given his #1 ranking and position in the tennis world. did he really think his stature would pressure them into giving someone a wildcard based not on talent but on family. is that how we want tennis to be? a sport based on family and stature, not talent?

you can't really have it both ways so I am surprised Djokovic would ask them this, not as simple 'nice brother' like some of you make

Maybe they will fine him! :eek:

Mountaindewslave
01-11-2012, 04:14 AM
Maybe they will fine him! :eek:

hahah it's just simple as a class thing, obviously getting 'favors' that are unfair is not ok. Marko shouldn't be put into tournaments just because he is the brother of Novak Djokovic, was silly for Novak to think that there affiliation was a good reason

thegreendestiny
01-11-2012, 04:27 AM
Oh come on. Nole is just being helpful to his brother's career. I'm sure you'd do the same if you were in his shoes. And I am not even close to being a Nole fan.

Mountaindewslave
01-11-2012, 04:34 AM
Oh come on. Nole is just being helpful to his brother's career. I'm sure you'd do the same if you were in his shoes. And I am not even close to being a Nole fan.

it's not about brotherhood hahah, it's about tennis integrity. if the top players of the game can just influence through text/calls who is given wildcards to small tournaments like these, it can truly affect the opportunities out there for players who work hard. wildcards/seedings/etc should not be given out as favors but based on skill and players deserving them from hard work and success on the minor tours.

I get being a good brother but being a good brother does not mean ruining the integrity of the sport by getting your brother into tournaments he has not earned a position in.

the whole thread is a bit pointless, of course the tournament director rejected the request, in tennis wildcards are not given out based on desires of the top players to get their own family further, quite the opposite

thegreendestiny
01-11-2012, 04:43 AM
it's not about brotherhood hahah, it's about tennis integrity. if the top players of the game can just influence through text/calls who is given wildcards to small tournaments like these, it can truly affect the opportunities out there for players who work hard. wildcards/seedings/etc should not be given out as favors but based on skill and players deserving them from hard work and success on the minor tours.

I get being a good brother but being a good brother does not mean ruining the integrity of the sport by getting your brother into tournaments he has not earned a position in.

the whole thread is a bit pointless, of course the tournament director rejected the request, in tennis wildcards are not given out based on desires of the top players to get their own family further, quite the opposite

He politely ASKED. What is wrong with asking? He did not bribe anyone as far as I am aware. :rolleyes:

rickcastle
01-11-2012, 04:49 AM
you all can call it just a 'nice brother' but it is inappropriate given his #1 ranking and position in the tennis world. did he really think his stature would pressure them into giving someone a wildcard based not on talent but on family. is that how we want tennis to be? a sport based on family and stature, not talent?

ffs, he was asking politely.

BigJohn
01-11-2012, 04:55 AM
The good thing in all of this is that Nole does not come across as a self-centered diva. At all.

Mountaindewslave
01-11-2012, 04:59 AM
He politely ASKED. What is wrong with asking? He did not bribe anyone as far as I am aware. :rolleyes:

it's not bribing exactly it's pressuring tournament adviser's based on his high position in tennis...

if Barack Obama asks the governor of Alabama politely***** to give his nephew a job as his assistant, is it ok just because he was polite about it? of course a random and fictional comparison, but relevant in that it is someone in a powerful position trying to influence an unjust promotion/decision.

manners have nothing to do with it, the fact is top players should not be influencing/asking for tournaments to do them 'favors' by throwing out wildcards to their family members.

shit, manners/politeness, is irrelevant, it's just the basic principle. not that complicated

thegreendestiny
01-11-2012, 05:11 AM
it's not bribing exactly it's pressuring tournament adviser's based on his high position in tennis...


Which part of his message exuded pressure? You are blowing it out of proportion. Please remember that he is a tennis player, not a politician or a person in public office. He did not become No.1 because he was voted. :mad: FFS, it's self-righteous people like you who are to blame for social decay worldwide. :o

BigJohn
01-11-2012, 05:22 AM
Which part of his message exuded pressure? You are blowing it out of proportion. Please remember that he is a tennis player, not a politician or a person in public office. He did not become No.1 because he was voted. :mad: FFS, it's self-righteous people like you who are to blame for social decay worldwide. :o

You got it all wrong. The fact that some people actually defend Djokovic is an indicator of social decay.

Kat_YYZ
01-11-2012, 05:39 AM
it's not bribing exactly it's pressuring tournament adviser's based on his high position in tennis...

if Barack Obama asks the governor of Alabama politely***** to give his nephew a job as his assistant, is it ok just because he was polite about it? of course a random and fictional comparison, but relevant in that it is someone in a powerful position trying to influence an unjust promotion/decision.

manners have nothing to do with it, the fact is top players should not be influencing/asking for tournaments to do them 'favors' by throwing out wildcards to their family members.

shit, manners/politeness, is irrelevant, it's just the basic principle. not that complicated

dude, you are losing it. :rolleyes: Now people in high positions shouldn't even ASK for something because it will automatically be construed as pressure/bullying/bribing/etc?? :stupid: That's just political correctness run amok. And what kind of "power" does Novak have anyways? Why should the Turkish tennis federation be afraid of pissing off Novak Djokovic? What's he gonna do to them? It's not like he was ever going to play at one of their tournaments anyways.

I'm sure this kind of thing goes on all the time, just it's not made public on a regular basis. I mean, how do you think WCs to futures get handed out anyways? It's probably all nepotism and paying back of favours.

156mphserve
01-11-2012, 06:00 AM
this is a futures event in Turkey, it's not the Olympics. Nole asked(though probably not through proper channels, don't get Ilhan involved) and he was turned down, end of story

Mountaindewslave
01-11-2012, 06:15 AM
dude, you are losing it. :rolleyes: Now people in high positions shouldn't even ASK for something because it will automatically be construed as pressure/bullying/bribing/etc?? :stupid: That's just political correctness run amok. And what kind of "power" does Novak have anyways? Why should the Turkish tennis federation be afraid of pissing off Novak Djokovic? What's he gonna do to them? It's not like he was ever going to play at one of their tournaments anyways.

I'm sure this kind of thing goes on all the time, just it's not made public on a regular basis. I mean, how do you think WCs to futures get handed out anyways? It's probably all nepotism and paying back of favours.

this is absurd, I don't think it's the end of the world either and DJokovic is a good guy, but in tennis high ranked players just do not request ANY LEVEL of tournament officials to let their family members into a tournament.

niceness, politeness, hell level of tournament- none of it matters. this is not WW3 but obviously it is both very strange and not of the highest integrity to ask such a thing

Mountaindewslave
01-11-2012, 06:19 AM
dude, you are losing it. :rolleyes: Now people in high positions shouldn't even ASK for something because it will automatically be construed as pressure/bullying/bribing/etc?? :stupid: That's just political correctness run amok. And what kind of "power" does Novak have anyways? Why should the Turkish tennis federation be afraid of pissing off Novak Djokovic? What's he gonna do to them? It's not like he was ever going to play at one of their tournaments anyways.

I'm sure this kind of thing goes on all the time, just it's not made public on a regular basis. I mean, how do you think WCs to futures get handed out anyways? It's probably all nepotism and paying back of favours.

if you don't see/get how people in the tennis industry might feel pressured by one of the biggest names around then you have lost your mind..... :facepalm:

clearly Djokovic thought that because of his reknown, a text to tennis organizers would likely get his brother a wild card.

off of basic principle this is wrong, tennis is not about who your family is, it's about your game, talent, deserving a wild card! if Djokovic asked Wimbledon to give his brother a wildcard I am sure you all would stop being so stubborn.

there is being a nice brother but there is also basic principle and class, regardless of tournament size

Kat_YYZ
01-11-2012, 06:53 AM
well maybe your Turkish is better than mine and you saw something in the article, I'm just going by Luinir's post. It says he asked Marsel Ilhan and Ilhan's coach -- he didn't contact the federation or organizers directly. So he knew he was contacting people who had no real power to make this happen. So it was just a friendly request.

And this is not Wimbledon it is a futures event - there is no comparison.

Luinir
01-11-2012, 07:06 AM
Djokovic says to Marsel "if he can ask to federation for wildcard" actually. I mean, Novak has not any connection with Turkish federation but it seems like that he has some connection with Marsel, so says to Marsel about it. That's it.

MatchFederer
01-11-2012, 07:13 AM
Nothing to really see here. If El Nolio had gone to the Federation directly then there might be an argument, maybe.

MOhero
01-11-2012, 07:33 AM
Djokovic s stingy!!! ;)

Kat_YYZ
01-11-2012, 08:05 AM
Marko's playing activity record indicates he's been playing a bunch of Turkish futures, getting in through qualifying.
http://www.itftennis.com/mens/players/activity.asp?player=100106647

He only had one WC last year, to Helsinki Challenger.

MariaV
01-11-2012, 08:10 AM
Djokovic says to Marsel "if he can ask to federation for wildcard" actually. I mean, Novak has not any connection with Turkish federation but it seems like that he has some connection with Marsel, so says to Marsel about it. That's it.

Yeah I mean what's all the fuss, and the sms-es were very polite. :shrug:

Compared to the buying of ATP wildecards and points that's going on...

MatchFederer
01-11-2012, 08:51 AM
I think that we can conclude that there's nothing to see here but it was a nice ride while it lasted providing that one is a satirical sadist.

arm
01-11-2012, 09:14 AM
it's not about brotherhood hahah, it's about tennis integrity. if the top players of the game can just influence through text/calls who is given wildcards to small tournaments like these, it can truly affect the opportunities out there for players who work hard. wildcards/seedings/etc should not be given out as favors but based on skill and players deserving them from hard work and success on the minor tours.

I get being a good brother but being a good brother does not mean ruining the integrity of the sport by getting your brother into tournaments he has not earned a position in.

the whole thread is a bit pointless, of course the tournament director rejected the request, in tennis wildcards are not given out based on desires of the top players to get their own family further, quite the opposite

2nd or 3rd post of yours with +150 words on this matter. :facepalm: trying too hard mate. Never thought someone could have so much to say about such silly piece of news. You're being a tiny bit ridiculous. :hug:

EDIT: it gets even better, there's at least 5 of those posts. :lol:

Goldenoldie
01-11-2012, 09:32 AM
Perhaps I'm being naive, but is there a reason why Marko did not ask for his own wild cards? He isn't that bad a Futures player.

zlaja777
01-11-2012, 01:03 PM
hahah i'm not saying Rafael's father's outbursts are classy either, but trying to pressure tournament organizer's/ tennis India, to give his what? 1000th ranked brother a wildcard into their tournament?

you all can call it just a 'nice brother' but it is inappropriate given his #1 ranking and position in the tennis world. did he really think his stature would pressure them into giving someone a wildcard based not on talent but on family. is that how we want tennis to be? a sport based on family and stature, not talent?

you can't really have it both ways so I am surprised Djokovic would ask them this, not as simple 'nice brother' like some of you make

No no, that GIF has nothing to do with class/no class. That GIF summarises the frustration of 2011 for all Nadal fans. Therefore, I'm 100% sure that you would find something wrong with Djokovic no matter what he does. A simple case of an ultra-subjective fan.

Looner
01-11-2012, 01:32 PM
So I suppose the GS nations are also all evil for given some pretty crap players WCs. Or is that OK?

Naudio Spanlatine
01-11-2012, 04:18 PM
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General Suburbia
01-11-2012, 04:39 PM
it's not about brotherhood hahah, it's about tennis integrity. if the top players of the game can just influence through text/calls who is given wildcards to small tournaments like these, it can truly affect the opportunities out there for players who work hard. wildcards/seedings/etc should not be given out as favors but based on skill and players deserving them from hard work and success on the minor tours.

I get being a good brother but being a good brother does not mean ruining the integrity of the sport by getting your brother into tournaments he has not earned a position in.

the whole thread is a bit pointless, of course the tournament director rejected the request, in tennis wildcards are not given out based on desires of the top players to get their own family further, quite the opposite
You have a very naive view of how the world works. Stop watching kid's movies.

Nothing wrong with asking for favors, and nothing wrong with rejecting them if there's reason to.

Mateya
01-11-2012, 05:31 PM
Nole has Ilhan's and his coach'es phone numbers :eek:

He has every phone number he needs. He also has my phone number. :cool:

Tenisci
01-11-2012, 07:28 PM
Even it is true, it is bad to tell other pedple.

Mountaindewslave
01-11-2012, 07:36 PM
2nd or 3rd post of yours with +150 words on this matter. :facepalm: trying too hard mate. Never thought someone could have so much to say about such silly piece of news. You're being a tiny bit ridiculous. :hug:

EDIT: it gets even better, there's at least 5 of those posts. :lol:

regardless of how many words I may have directed towards the nonchalant attitude on this thread, doesn't change the fact that it is not classy and against principle.

tournaments determine wildcards on their own whims not based on pressure from top ranked players of the world. you don't hear about other top ranked players doing this and for that matter there is a reason the man who was asked decided to publicly release the messages- clearly he felt they were both inappropriate and strange.

it's not WW3 i repeat, but against principle of the sport, to throw out wildcards based on the whims of the top players

Mountaindewslave
01-11-2012, 07:42 PM
You have a very naive view of how the world works. Stop watching kid's movies.

Nothing wrong with asking for favors, and nothing wrong with rejecting them if there's reason to.

it is inappropriate clearly but you obviously have no intention of weighing reality

MOhero
01-11-2012, 07:43 PM
So I suppose the GS nations are also all evil for given some pretty crap players WCs. Or is that OK?

Yes, its robbery! :devil:

GOAT = Fed
01-11-2012, 07:47 PM
What's wrong with giving your brother a helping hand? Especially since he is suffering with injury and struggling to get into events? :shrug:

Typical MTF over reaction. And why the flip was this even made public?

theKSHE
01-11-2012, 07:48 PM
Bad move, imho. If Novak himself didn't need his brothers to rise on professional tennis, Marko shouldn't need it aswell. Grow some balls, Marko and Novak, let your brother do it for himself.

Say Hey Kid
01-12-2012, 02:37 AM
Is it so strange for someone to help his family/brother?

This.

Nothing wrong here at all.

tektonac
01-12-2012, 05:33 AM
if you don't see/get how people in the tennis industry might feel pressured by one of the biggest names around then you have lost your mind..... :facepalm:

clearly Djokovic thought that because of his reknown, a text to tennis organizers would likely get his brother a wild card.

off of basic principle this is wrong, tennis is not about who your family is, it's about your game, talent, deserving a wild card! if Djokovic asked Wimbledon to give his brother a wildcard I am sure you all would stop being so stubborn.

there is being a nice brother but there is also basic principle and class, regardless of tournament size

okay we get it, you hate novak's guts; you could've told us that in one short sentence instead of giving us a lecture on morale.

scoutreporter
01-12-2012, 06:39 AM
Djokovic what a disgusting human being. Good thing he is exposed like that :haha:

Classic thread :yeah:

OMG, you are so pathetic and stupid, its just sad. You are a disgusting human being, most likely product of inbreed... Go home to your grandpa/father you stupid troll...

Sauletekis
01-18-2012, 06:17 AM
A little bump just to say the Marko actually is in MD of this tournament even without the WC. He did manage to get through qualifying.

RIboy
01-18-2012, 06:22 AM
i didn't even know u can send such a long sms

rinnegan
01-18-2012, 06:23 AM
A little bump just to say the Marko actually is in MD of this tournament even without the WC. He did manage to get through qualifying.

Good for him!

fran70
01-25-2012, 11:48 PM
Seems to be that finally it worked out as Marko gained a WC for Turkey F3 :o.

your_valentine
01-26-2012, 12:08 AM
http://www.tenisdunyasi.net/haber/novaktan-marsele-sms-1722

Novak asked to Marsel Ilhan with SMS (ATP no 113) for wildcard in future tournament for his brother Marko Djokovic.

"Marcel, happy new year! Wish you all the best in 2012. I am texting you regarding you My brother Marko. He was playing some futures in Antalya and earned 10 points. But he wasnt playing for one year because of surgery. In this moment he is still not in main draw of tournaments in the same place in Antalya! Main draw starts on 16 jan. i want to ask you if you can somehow ask the Turkish Federation for WC main draw for him that week or any other week. he would play to 2-3 weeks there. his name is Marko Djokovic. please let me know. thank you. Novak Djokovic."

Then he sent another SMS to Can Uner who has been coach of Marsel.

"Hello Can Uner. Yes, it would be great of we can have two WC (16 jan and one week after) If not, then one would be good as well. Thank you and sorry for disturbing."

Marsel said about it to federation but tournament director rejected it because of Marko's coach Nikola Jovanovic. Marko played some tournaments in Turkey at the end of 2011. At one of those tournaments Jovanovic got into a unpleasant discussion.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is the number #1 of the world. He asks wildcard to ATP no 113, then gets rejected. :devil:

I'm sorry but I lol'd :sobbing:
And what's wrong with trying to help out your brother...

RafaNadal2012!!!
01-26-2012, 12:22 AM
I Don't see how Novak was in the wrong at all. Trying to help his little brother whom he knows is talented and wanted to accelerate his trip to the ATP world tour

sicko
01-26-2012, 12:27 AM
i didn't even know u can send such a long sms

best post in here :lol:

Nathaliia
01-26-2012, 12:32 AM
funny how people who want something from you will always start with "happy new year! wishing you all the best / how are you? we havent talked for 10 yrs, how are you doing?"

nothing wrong with trying to help brother :hug: but ofc the federation had the right to reject

nole should have been smarter and written "marsel, you can have a WC in nole open in exchange :D"

Time Violation
01-26-2012, 12:40 AM
nole should have been smarter and written "marsel, you can have a WC in nole open in exchange :D"

That would probably go without saying, but who knows how much influence Marsel actually has there, even if he really wants to help :)

jackjill888
01-26-2012, 12:43 AM
Turks rock the world :)

Looner
01-26-2012, 01:20 AM
I had actually forgotten about this thread.. But now that it's been brought up again I see this is as the deciding mental factor that will prevent Novak winning the AO. I am sure the people running the Turkish Federation are Nadull fans :o.

Mountaindewslave
01-26-2012, 02:09 AM
I Don't see how Novak was in the wrong at all. Trying to help his little brother whom he knows is talented and wanted to accelerate his trip to the ATP world tour

obviously his brother is NOT that talented if he can't get into futures events based on his own talent instead of his older brother's tennis status.... :o

DomachowskaDreamer
01-26-2012, 02:12 PM
OMG Nole :haha::facepalm:
As much as I like you, you shouldn't have done this :lol:

Marc23
01-27-2012, 10:59 PM
obviously his brother is NOT that talented if he can't get into futures events based on his own talent instead of his older brother's tennis status.... :o

Yes,that's why he got those WC to play in Turkey!He is playing with one even this week!

shiaben
01-27-2012, 11:10 PM
Glad they rejected. He has to move up on his own. Can't get gifted wildcards through his brother's status when other players are working their butts off to move up in the rankings. Good move by the director.

tektonac
01-27-2012, 11:16 PM
this thread is still active :scratch:

Marc23
01-27-2012, 11:26 PM
Glad they rejected.

They didn't obviously as Marko plays for weeks several tournaments in Turkey with WC!

delboy
01-28-2012, 12:35 AM
Didn't Novak say he was more talented than he was? :drink: seems pretty shit to me, always loses in these futures when I see his results...

GasquetFan
02-01-2012, 12:38 PM
They didn't obviously as Marko plays for weeks several tournaments in Turkey with WC!

Yeah he lost in straight sets to Urzua-Rivera (ranked #943) today at a Futures in Turkey so obviously he wasn't rejected?

Time Violation
02-01-2012, 01:02 PM
Didn't Novak say he was more talented than he was? :drink: seems pretty shit to me, always loses in these futures when I see his results...

Think they said that for the yongest brother, not for Marko :)

Marc23
02-01-2012, 01:19 PM
so obviously he wasn't rejected?

No,he wasn't...all the tournaments(in Turkey) he played with WC,so he wasn't rejected...

Hian-GOAT
02-01-2012, 02:00 PM
What is exactly the funny part of this? :shrug: He asked a favour for his brother, and the tournament director has been really stupid. It is full of these Turkish tournaments in the year (one for a week, If I'm not wrong) and he could have given a WC to Marko, so that he would have catched the attenction on one of these tournaments.

People laughing as if something big happened, but it's soo normal.

Broskie91
02-01-2012, 07:35 PM
I cant stand some of you idiotic people...Why would anyone care about this? A FUTURES tournament in turkey for djoko's brother, who is probably ranked somewhere in the 1000's...why is this news? And to the dude who posted this thread "#1 gets rejected by atp #113" ??? Ilhan didn't reject him; he supposedly tried to help, based on the stupid article.

CyBorg
02-02-2012, 12:38 AM
First of all, is this really true?
Secondly, it is a cultural thing. Helping family and friends above all is natural for someone coming from the Balkans, while doing things this way is corruption for people in other cultures.

It should be natural for people of any culture. What kind of absurd culture looks down on people for supporting their family members?

Now, as far as the actual rules and regulations of the governing bodies deciding on these things... that's another story.

Halba
02-02-2012, 09:08 PM
i think marko djokovic needs to find himself another career to keep him occupied
there will never be another djoker

just like there will never be another federer or nadal

Marc23
02-02-2012, 10:16 PM
i think marko djokovic needs to find himself another career to keep him occupied
there will never be another djoker


He can purchase his career as a hobby(as he does now) because he doesn't have to work for the rest of his life ;)