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Which youngster will have the best run in the Australian Open?

Sri
01-08-2012, 03:24 PM
Will it be Milos Raonic who showed his good form and mental toughness in a close final @ Chennai?

Or will it be homeboy Bernard Tomic with his variety and organizer's blessings?

Or someone else?

tumbak
01-08-2012, 03:28 PM
Will be Kravetz with his extraordinary naturally blessed groundstrokes and his never say die attitude.

MuzzahLovah
01-08-2012, 03:29 PM
Dimitrov who actually destroyed a top 10 player this week.

LawrenceOfTennis
01-08-2012, 03:31 PM
Tomic or Dimitrov.
Tomic can win many matches. Outside the top 4, he can beat most players.
Dimitrov is in very good form, he can win a couple of rounds with a good draw.
I think Raonic won't repeat last year's run even though MTF thinks he's gonna reach semis since he won Chennai...
I would love to say Harrison has a chance to reach 2nd round, but most probably he will lose the first match regardless the draw.

MaratandMilos
01-08-2012, 03:31 PM
If Milos keeps that fantastic level up next week, it will be him. He also has the experience of having made the 4th round there last year.

Game.Petzschner
01-08-2012, 03:41 PM
anybody but raonic...

EddieNero
01-08-2012, 03:51 PM
AO is way too slow for Raonic, his serve will be considerably less effective so I can't see him getting through a decent grinder with an average return and reasonably strong mentality.
Tomic may fail under pressure but realistically he may avail himself of a good draw and reach R16/QF.

Except from those two, I don't expect any other youngster to make some mess in this tournament.

GSMnadal
01-08-2012, 04:11 PM
AO is way too slow for Raonic, his serve will be considerably less effective so I can't see him getting through a decent grinder with an average return and reasonably strong mentality.
Tomic may fail under pressure but realistically he may avail himself of a good draw and reach R16/QF.

Except from those two, I don't expect any other youngster to make some mess in this tournament.

Faster surfaces don't always suit these kind of players, big servers often have poor movement and need a lot of time to hit their rally shots. If he hits his serve the right way, it's going to be an ace most of the times anyway, no matter how fast the surface is (if they're both hardcourts, just looking at that).

On a faster hardcourt however, he has less time to set his groundstrokes up, so I think the AO suits him better than say, the US Open. Because his serve is still a huge weapon, but he's not a complete non-factor once the rally gets started.

rinnegan
01-08-2012, 04:34 PM
Grigor Dimitrov. He schooled Fish and carried Bulgaria in the Hopman Cup.

Sri
01-08-2012, 04:43 PM
Grigor Dimitrov. He schooled Fish and carried Bulgaria in the Hopman Cup.
Hmm but the Hopman cup is an exhibition tournament. I do wish Dimitrov stops mugging around and starts winning, maybe the Hopman cup is the confidence he needs.

I remember the older Dimitrov (i.e. Roger Federer) also played the Hopman cup before his breakout year, that maybe a sign.. :P

rinnegan
01-08-2012, 04:54 PM
Hmm but the Hopman cup is an exhibition tournament. I do wish Dimitrov stops mugging around and starts winning, maybe the Hopman cup is the confidence he needs.

They took it seriously, though. Berdych, Fish, and Nielsen were not clowning around when they faced Grisha. He really impressed me last week.

nadejda
01-08-2012, 04:58 PM
Hopman cup is fast indoor hard. Slow outdoor hard isn't Grigor's best surface though...

ImmzB
01-08-2012, 05:09 PM
I think Tomic.

yesh222
01-08-2012, 05:15 PM
Depends on the draw but probably Tomic.

Mountaindewslave
01-08-2012, 05:16 PM
Dimitrov, he has looked good recently, detroyed Fish in Hopman Cup and Fish seemed to take it VERY seriously. the time has come

Looner
01-08-2012, 05:17 PM
Faster surfaces don't always suit these kind of players, big servers often have poor movement and need a lot of time to hit their rally shots. If he hits his serve the right way, it's going to be an ace most of the times anyway, no matter how fast the surface is (if they're both hardcourts, just looking at that).

On a faster hardcourt however, he has less time to set his groundstrokes up, so I think the AO suits him better than say, the US Open. Because his serve is still a huge weapon, but he's not a complete non-factor once the rally gets started.

This is very true. Remember Soderling's results at the French. His loopy technique with the FH benefits hugely from the additional time he has to set up the shot on a slower and high bouncing court.

Nathaliia
01-08-2012, 05:23 PM
each of them has a chance (with all due respect, Tomic and ofc Berankis the smallest) but it sadly all depends on the draw

i believe with a good draw you can even get to a QF and with a bad draw lose in the first round. the seeded ones will get a performance between 3rd round and QF

currently i can't see any of them (not even Raonic) beating fed, rafa, nole or murray

Johnny Groove
01-08-2012, 05:43 PM
Tomic most likely. Depends on draw of course, but I can see 4th round.

Dimitrov I still don't trust.

Raonic can do damage too.

gindyo
01-08-2012, 05:49 PM
I want to say Dimitrov, but I have to say Raonic. I want to see more from Dimitrov when under pressure. It is true that he impressed during HC, but as he said himself he was having fun during the whole tournament, and I know that when he is having fun he can beat anyone on the tour. But it is a whole different ball game when it is not fun but clutch. And he is yet to prove that he can win when it is clutch. I had enough of "pretty" losses he needs to start getting those W's. BTW here is a highlights video I made from his match with Fish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPXawNcZvfo&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

zlaja777
01-08-2012, 07:19 PM
Raonic or Tomic. Depends on draw.

tommyg6
01-08-2012, 07:29 PM
Raonic will cause major damage at the Oz Open. He will take out one of the big four a la Soderling and make the Finals!

Ravel
01-08-2012, 07:44 PM
Raonic will cause major damage at the Oz Open. He will take out one of the big four a la Soderling and make the Finals!

:rolleyes: no wonder Raonic has a lot of haters, you overhype him constantly.

learn to temper down your expectations

benji47
01-08-2012, 07:51 PM
Hmm but the Hopman cup is an exhibition tournament. I do wish Dimitrov stops mugging around and starts winning, maybe the Hopman cup is the confidence he needs.

I remember the older Dimitrov (i.e. Roger Federer) also played the Hopman cup before his breakout year, that maybe a sign.. :P


Are you kidding, Mardy Fish took it so seriously that he (almost) started a fight. :o

Thunderfish8
01-08-2012, 08:01 PM
Certainly not ryan harrison.

Not sure about Grigor, but he put up some respectable results in the Hopman cup despite the Fish incident which nobody has been able to explain what caused it

Tomic might go relatively deep but if he gets an unlucky draw and hits a top 4 player before the quarterfinals, he may be screwed

Raonic may do great things. Especially considering he held his nerve against Tipsarevic who is also in incredible form since October. If Federer is still injury plagued, or Nadal continues his streak of sukiness, Raonic may be able to dig his way into the semis.

I don't see any of them upsetting Tsonga.
None of them will beat Djokovic or Murray.
The only one that I believe can take out Ferrer is Raonic if he brings the massive serve.
Berdych is prone to upset from any of these guys. So is Mardy Fish and Almagro.
Obviously Raonic can beat Tippy, but i don't thnk the other three have the match skills yet.
Simon is an easy upset. So is Almagro.
For some reason, Roddick can play well against these youngsters so I don't see him losing to them, but he'll go out to a complete shit player anyway.
Anybody ranked lower than 15 can easily be toppled by any of these youngsters even Harrison

Gillouthe best
01-08-2012, 08:06 PM
Tomic. I think he will make R4/QF defeating a Top-10 this year.

romismak
01-08-2012, 08:20 PM
Faster surfaces don't always suit these kind of players, big servers often have poor movement and need a lot of time to hit their rally shots. If he hits his serve the right way, it's going to be an ace most of the times anyway, no matter how fast the surface is (if they're both hardcourts, just looking at that).

On a faster hardcourt however, he has less time to set his groundstrokes up, so I think the AO suits him better than say, the US Open. Because his serve is still a huge weapon, but he's not a complete non-factor once the rally gets started.

Totally agree with this. Raonic is similar to Isner in this. Won´t say about Ivo, because he is more about serve than these guys, this 2 have much better baseline game and overall skills than Ivo. But basically Raonic is i think best on slower HC. Chennai was pretty fast and he did well there, but i believe just like you that on slower HC he has more time for his big FH and his own deffensive groundstrokes than on faster HC. Also slower HC mostly means higher bounce and, because this guys are tall they like ball to jump higher, because it goes to their striking zone. Similar is Soderling here from top players, he is succesfull on clay, because he has time for his groundstrokes and deffense, because his movement is not good. About Raonic - if he hit that 1st serve it doesn´t matter if fast HC, slow HC, simply it will be service winner - free point, maybe he will have less aces on slower HC that´s all, still he will win that point. Also high bouncing HC is great for his kick serve. Clay is different game, his movement is not good enough there so he won´t never be as good there than on HC, and also i think grass and indoors are too fast, too low bounce for him. So i believe he will be most succesfull on HC-slow HC in his career.

Saberq
01-08-2012, 08:27 PM
Raonic will cause major damage at the Oz Open. He will take out one of the big four a la Soderling and make the Finals!

Top 4 would cream him like a serve bot he is ....I honestly hope he plays Murray because Andy has a way of destroying these type of players

romismak
01-08-2012, 08:31 PM
Besides Raonic if good draw than both Tomic and Dimitrov can make 3rd-4th round in Melbourne. Tomic was pretty good in Brisbane, the question is what draw he will have and also if that pressure playing infront of aussie crowd will be negative or positive for him- that crowd will make him better, give him energy. Dimitrov also was pretty good in Perth. Lost only To Berdych and take set from him and Berdych was pretty good there. Also Fish was eaten alive:D So really with good draw they can make it far. Harrison i think won´t do anything.

mark73
01-08-2012, 08:37 PM
Only Raonic is seeded so we really need to see the draw :lol:.

Pirata.
01-08-2012, 11:13 PM
I think Tomic and Raonic.

zlaja777
01-08-2012, 11:18 PM
:rolleyes: no wonder Raonic has a lot of haters, you overhype him constantly.

learn to temper down your expectations

I like the fact that there are more Canadian poster here on board now with Raonic rising. You shouldn't worry about the haters, it's normal. Raonic is "new blood" and they are thirsty. Since Del Potro's rise, Raonic is the youngster with the best results.

Topspindoctor
01-08-2012, 11:36 PM
Raonic will cause major damage at the Oz Open. He will take out one of the big four a la Soderling and make the Finals!

He'll win Calendar Golden Slam just by serving, winning every match 7-6 7-6 7-6 :rocker2:

bouncer7
01-09-2012, 12:54 AM
Novak Djokovic, he is still youngest in top10...easy answer

nole_no1
01-09-2012, 01:04 AM
We can't say untill we see the draw
Maybe Raonic plays Tomic in the 1st round :p

MuzzahLovah
01-09-2012, 02:34 AM
Why can't the Canadian tards get behind Popsicle instead? He's cute and doesn't have mind numbing game.

tommyg6
01-09-2012, 04:35 AM
Raonic's run to the Oz Open title.

R128 - Raonic def. Kohlschreiber 6-1, 6-4, 6-2, match duration, 1 hour, 26 minutes, 52 aces
R64 - Raonic def. Belluci 6-3, 6-1, 6-2, match duration, 1 hour, 13 minutes, 46 aces
R32 - Raonic def. Simon 6-4, 6-3, 6-3, match duration, 1 hour, 55 minutes, 45 aces
R16 - Raonic def. Isner 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, match duration, 1 hour, 35 minutes, 43 aces
QF - Raonic def. Murray 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, match duration, 1 hour, 47 minutes, 70 aces
SF - Raonic def. Nadal 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, match duration, 1 hour 50 minutes, 45 aces
F - Raonic def. Djokovic 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, match duration, 1 hour, 21 minutes, 52 aces

Raonic won't drop serve throughout the entire tournament and fire a record of 353 aces overall, averaging 53 aces per match.

Sri
01-09-2012, 07:52 AM
Raonic's run to the Oz Open title.

R128 - Raonic def. Kohlschreiber 6-1, 6-4, 6-2, match duration, 1 hour, 26 minutes, 52 aces
R64 - Raonic def. Belluci 6-3, 6-1, 6-2, match duration, 1 hour, 13 minutes, 46 aces
R32 - Raonic def. Simon 6-4, 6-3, 6-3, match duration, 1 hour, 55 minutes, 45 aces
R16 - Raonic def. Isner 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, match duration, 1 hour, 35 minutes, 43 aces
QF - Raonic def. Murray 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, match duration, 1 hour, 47 minutes, 70 aces
SF - Raonic def. Nadal 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, match duration, 1 hour 50 minutes, 45 aces
F - Raonic def. Djokovic 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, match duration, 1 hour, 21 minutes, 52 aces

Raonic won't drop serve throughout the entire tournament and fire a record of 353 aces overall, averaging 53 aces per match.
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GSMnadal
01-09-2012, 08:06 AM
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http://images.wikia.com/dragonballfanon/images/6/6e/Ya_Rly!.jpg

benji47
01-09-2012, 08:10 AM
I can't....

Topspindoctor
01-09-2012, 08:11 AM
Raonic's run to the Oz Open title.

R128 - Raonic def. Kohlschreiber 6-1, 6-4, 6-2, match duration, 1 hour, 26 minutes, 52 aces
R64 - Raonic def. Belluci 6-3, 6-1, 6-2, match duration, 1 hour, 13 minutes, 46 aces
R32 - Raonic def. Simon 6-4, 6-3, 6-3, match duration, 1 hour, 55 minutes, 45 aces
R16 - Raonic def. Isner 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, match duration, 1 hour, 35 minutes, 43 aces
QF - Raonic def. Murray 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, match duration, 1 hour, 47 minutes, 70 aces
SF - Raonic def. Nadal 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, match duration, 1 hour 50 minutes, 45 aces
F - Raonic def. Djokovic 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, match duration, 1 hour, 21 minutes, 52 aces

Raonic won't drop serve throughout the entire tournament and fire a record of 353 aces overall, averaging 53 aces per match.

:superlol:

TennisOnWood
01-09-2012, 08:41 AM
Raonic's run to the Oz Open title.

R128 - Raonic def. Kohlschreiber 6-1, 6-4, 6-2, match duration, 1 hour, 26 minutes, 52 aces
R64 - Raonic def. Belluci 6-3, 6-1, 6-2, match duration, 1 hour, 13 minutes, 46 aces
R32 - Raonic def. Simon 6-4, 6-3, 6-3, match duration, 1 hour, 55 minutes, 45 aces
R16 - Raonic def. Isner 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, match duration, 1 hour, 35 minutes, 43 aces
QF - Raonic def. Murray 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, match duration, 1 hour, 47 minutes, 70 aces
SF - Raonic def. Nadal 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, match duration, 1 hour 50 minutes, 45 aces
F - Raonic def. Djokovic 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, match duration, 1 hour, 21 minutes, 52 aces

Raonic won't drop serve throughout the entire tournament and fire a record of 353 aces overall, averaging 53 aces per match.

Nadal will take that 1h 50 minutes just to prepare serves

Shinoj
01-09-2012, 09:38 AM
Federer

Sri
01-09-2012, 09:44 AM
Federer
It's about time he made a breakthrough!

Saberq
01-09-2012, 10:18 AM
Raonic's run to the Oz Open title.

R128 - Raonic def. Kohlschreiber 6-1, 6-4, 6-2, match duration, 1 hour, 26 minutes, 52 aces
R64 - Raonic def. Belluci 6-3, 6-1, 6-2, match duration, 1 hour, 13 minutes, 46 aces
R32 - Raonic def. Simon 6-4, 6-3, 6-3, match duration, 1 hour, 55 minutes, 45 aces
R16 - Raonic def. Isner 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, match duration, 1 hour, 35 minutes, 43 aces
QF - Raonic def. Murray 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, match duration, 1 hour, 47 minutes, 70 aces
SF - Raonic def. Nadal 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, match duration, 1 hour 50 minutes, 45 aces
F - Raonic def. Djokovic 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, match duration, 1 hour, 21 minutes, 52 aces

Raonic won't drop serve throughout the entire tournament and fire a record of 353 aces overall, averaging 53 aces per match.

the fail is strong in this one....

atennisfan
01-09-2012, 10:27 AM
It depends largely on the draw

Ash86
01-09-2012, 10:30 AM
Well I think it'll be Raonic but really hope it isn't as his ego seems big enough already. His recent tweets: "I've reached a career high number 1, in the ATP 2012 race, tied with Murray and Tsonga. Hahaha"; "I heard I was trending in Canada, thanks to everyone for the support" & the worst of all him talking about having earned "respect" from opponents at 7:10 in this interview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwVgrhWq6oA

All for backing yourself and being confident but think he buys into the hype a bit too much himself. When you're retweeting compliments about yourself after winning your second title you should think again. Don't talk about players staying up at night thinking about playing you - just play so well that you know they fear you and you don't need to mention it in interviews. I've never heard Djokovic/Murray/Nadal etc. talk about the respect they have & that people fear them before they step out on court effectively - they know that's the case but they don't need to harp on about it...

Tomic too seems to have an ego problem though he seems better in recent interviews. Feel like these kids grow up being told they're the next Sampras/Federer/Agassi and they really start believing it even before they've got the results to back it up. Much more inclined to back players like Dolgo myself who seems to have a fun personality, quirky game & be a down to earth kind of guy. Go Dolgopolov!

156mphserve
01-09-2012, 10:32 AM
The Milos answer is too easy. I'll go for Vasek Pospisil:yeah:

ciprianned
01-09-2012, 11:10 AM
Tomic/Raonic

Hypnotize
01-09-2012, 11:58 AM
Grigor was amazing in Perth and had fire in his eyes so I'm picking him. If he gets a good draw and plays his best tennis, he can go deep in the tournament. He's due a breakthrough and great to watch so I hope he does well.

All the young guys have started to look impressive (okay, maybe not Harrison) so I think they all have a chance to cause an upset if they catch a top player on a bad day.

StoGas
01-09-2012, 01:12 PM
Raonic 4th round
Tomic 4th round
Berankis 2nd round
Dimitrov 2nd round

iriraz
01-09-2012, 02:04 PM
Have to go with Raonic.He is the seeded player and will be favourite in his first couple of matches.
The other guys need to rely on luck.The other guys could do damage as well but only R3 maximum R4 with a good draw.Regardless how good Dimitrov or Tomic are playing if they get drawn vs a top 5-6 player in R1 they will lose

Mystique
01-09-2012, 02:29 PM
I think Tomic can and will make some noise here, especially with the support of his home crowd.
He proved he can do some damage at the majors last year and there is only one way to go. Up. He is in pretty good form and played well in Australia last year too.

Raonic will be seeded so he may get lucky with the draw, get a couple of easy matches. And I am not convinced about Dimitrov yet. The guy has a beautiful game but bad movement. And his game and career curve has been so much like his idol Federer, but just because it happened with Federer (who by the way was always a terrific mover) doesnt mean it will happen with him.

nellis_lv
01-10-2012, 05:45 AM
neat pic.

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/7453/30695592.jpg

nellis_lv
01-10-2012, 05:53 AM
He'll win Calendar Golden Slam just by serving, winning every match 7-6 7-6 7-6 :rocker2:
There you go. :rocker2:

lizzard11120
01-10-2012, 06:02 AM
For me it will depend on if Tomic gets seeded. He is currently 37 so it is possible if one of the players higher drops point this week.

paseo
01-10-2012, 06:05 AM
Heavily depends on the draw.

156mphserve
01-10-2012, 06:08 AM
For me it will depend on if Tomic gets seeded. He is currently 37 so it is possible if one of the players higher drops point this week.

the seeds depend on the rankings this week not next week as the draw is done I think Friday? So it doesn't matter if the players ahead of them have points dropping this week or not, that won't affect the seedings. The only way Tomic gets seeded is if enough players in front of him pull out so that he's top 32 based on the current rankings. So As you say he's 37, so he needs 5 withdrawals from those ranked 1-36, I'm not sure how many there are atm but Soderling and Cilic have withdrew, not sure if anyone else

james82
01-10-2012, 06:53 AM
Dimitrov - 2nd round
berankis - 1st round Q
Raonic - 2nd round
Stebe - 3rd round
Kei - 4th round
Goffin - 2nd round
Harrison - 3rd round
Tomic - 4th round

butwait whats the age limit for youngster?

Saberq
01-10-2012, 09:57 AM
Dimitrov - 2nd round
berankis - 1st round Q
Raonic - 2nd round
Stebe - 3rd round
Kei - 4th round
Goffin - 2nd round
Harrison - 3rd round
Tomic - 4th round

butwait whats the age limit for youngster?

that sounds about right

Sombrerero loco
01-10-2012, 04:44 PM
raonic for sure if he plays nice tennis

ogre
01-12-2012, 11:18 AM
Raonic has the best credentials of the 'youngsters'. But in Kooyong yesterday, Raonic was defeated by Fish, whereas Tomic defeated Berdych. I think this shows it is not just the seedings, but just how matches go on a specific day that will determine who shines.

Predictions of specific players reaching a certain round number seem very bold when the player in question could have Djokovic, Federer or Nadal in the first round.

grishotarian
01-12-2012, 12:17 PM
Dimitrov.

atennisfan
01-12-2012, 01:26 PM
Predictions of specific players reaching a certain round number seem very bold when the player in question could have Djokovic, Federer or Nadal in the first round.

We know for sure Raonic will not draw Djokovic, Federer, Nadal or Murray in the first round, or second round, or third round...

But Tomic, Dimitrov and Harrison can.

So obviously Raonic has the best chance among the youngsters to move furthest.

Dr.Slice
01-12-2012, 01:28 PM
It will depend on the draw, but I would give the best chance to Raonic and Tomic. don't have much belief in Dimitrov yet.

RIboy
01-12-2012, 01:30 PM
Schuettler

GasquetFan
01-12-2012, 01:32 PM
Grigor Dimitrov.

Super Djoker
01-13-2012, 10:10 AM
If she qualifies , Honorary Brit Laura Robson I hope!

SelvenluvJo
01-13-2012, 10:17 AM
Hope it goes to Dimi, Ryan has a bad bad draw (unfair :( )

asmazif
01-13-2012, 10:19 AM
Tomic Dolgo 3R could be interesting.

BroTree123
01-13-2012, 11:10 AM
Depends how windy AO will be I guess :shrug: