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Fish/Dimitrov Incident

davidrafael
01-07-2012, 10:07 AM
Just wondering if anyone can link me to some footage of the Fish/Dimitrov altercation at last nights Hopman Cup match?

I saw some of it briefly on the news but would like to see it again.

Maybe some of the Bulgarians have some footage on their news sites???

From what i saw i don't think Dimitrov did too much wrong...got a lucky net cord and Fish snapped from that point onwards.....compounded by the fact Dimitrov was thrashing him....And the mixed doubles Fish deliberately tried to hit him, followed up by a verbal altercation whilst walking past....

Certinfy
01-07-2012, 10:08 AM
Fish just being the usual ass he is.

nadejda
01-07-2012, 10:13 AM
http://tennis.sportal.bg/video.php?video=42048

Mardy Fish was given a code violation for spitting toward the block of Bulgarian fans during the singles match

Or Levy
01-07-2012, 10:17 AM
There was a tweeter exchange with Neil Harman -


NeilHarmanTimes Neil Harman

@MardyFish Interesting exchange with young Grigor, Mardy! Regards from Brisbane
_______

MardyFish Mardy Fish
@
@NeilHarmanTimes You Brits always looking for something! There's nothing there. Great talent he is. Will be a good player for a long time.
_______

NeilHarmanTimes Neil Harman

@MardyFish Good man Mardy. See you next week

___________




MardyFish Mardy Fish
@NeilHarmanTimes Look forward buddy

nadejda
01-07-2012, 10:19 AM
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/01/06/uk-tennis-hopman-bulgaria-idUKTRE80515L20120106

Fish, who also lost in straight sets to Czech Tomas Berdych on Wednesday, directed angry words at Dimitrov while the pair were shaking hands after the singles at Burswood Dome.

During the doubles, Fish appeared to hit a ball straight at the Bulgarian and then approached him as he sat in a chair during a change of ends.

Dimitrov jumped to his feet and the two men argued fiercely before the match referee rushed on to the court and stood between them. It was nearly a minute before order was restored.

MuzzahLovah
01-07-2012, 10:22 AM
I can't say I'm that surprised. Mardy is a pretty sore loser.

romismak
01-07-2012, 10:27 AM
I liked Mardy, but how the time go i must say not so much lately. It looks like he can´t handle that he was humiliated by some young player, who is way more talented and will achieve more in his career.

nadejda
01-07-2012, 10:34 AM
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/01/07/tennis-hopman-fish-idUKB57371920120107

Tennis-Dented pride caused Fish tantrum, says Cash

Mardy Fish blew his top in a bad-tempered Hopman Cup encounter between the United States and Bulgaria because he was embarrassed about being thrashed by his young opponent Grigor Dimitrov, Pat Cash said on Saturday.

Fish received a code of conduct warning for spitting in the direction of noisy Bulgarian fans during his 6-2 6-1 thrashing by 20-year-old Dimitrov on Friday and the pair had to be kept apart in the mixed doubles of the tie.

Tournament referee Soren Friemel confirmed he would compile a written report for the directors of the event and former Wimbledon champion Cash said he believed Fish was suffering from dented pride and unable to control his disappointment.

"You don't often see that, a bit of face-to-face on a tennis court," said Cash, who is working as a television commentator at the Burswood Dome.

"Mardy clearly was not in great form this week. He played pretty poorly and absolutely got annihilated by the youngster.

"Reading between the lines, and I don't know what happened, but it looked like Grigor was just saying to Mardy: 'What have I done wrong? I haven't done anything. I'm just trying to have a bit of fun here and you're attacking me, for what?'

"I don't think there's too much wrong with it. Boys just have to get on with it. They're fierce the competitors, that's the bottom line."

The Hopman Cup is an ITF event but no report will be sent to the governing body. Friemel said he did not expect the board of directors of the Hopman Cup to sanction Fish.

"I think it's better if you ask him (Fish)," Dimitrov said. "I'm sorry if I did something wrong. I'm going to apologise to him in the lockers when I see him, but I don't want to say much else about it."

Dimitrov boarded a flight to Sydney straight after his final Hopman Cup match. He played his first qualifying singles at the Sydney International just three hours after arriving from Perth and won.

samanosuke
01-07-2012, 10:41 AM
Who would say that fish and roddick are best buddies

leng jai
01-07-2012, 10:44 AM
How sad can you get :facepalm:

MuzzahLovah
01-07-2012, 10:54 AM
It's funny Fish would blow up at Grigor of all people. Who could get mad at him?

Matt01
01-07-2012, 10:59 AM
Fish :rolleyes:

Poor Grigor :hug:

RIboy
01-07-2012, 11:12 AM
one word- scumbag

Serenidad
01-07-2012, 11:15 AM
How dare he do my baby like that! He should be banned from Hopman Cup.

Naudio Spanlatine
01-07-2012, 11:18 AM
Fish:o, i swear do most american men in tennis act this ahole like:rolleyes:

Hypnotize
01-07-2012, 11:57 AM
Fish behaved like an idiot as usual. If this was an ATP event, he would have been banned. If he can't handle the Bulgarians supporting their man then he shouldn't play in events like The Davis Cup let alone The Hopman Cup.

I'm glad Grigor destroyed him in the singles then rubbed more salt in his wounds in the doubles.

UsD.AnDreS
01-07-2012, 12:05 PM
"I don't speak bulgarian, dumbasses" (spits towards the crowd)

TennisOnWood
01-07-2012, 12:10 PM
Big deal

Andreas
01-07-2012, 12:20 PM
This tournament has not been kind to Mardy's huge ego :lol: From being aced twice by Wozniacki to being trashed by a 20 year old.

Grisha is probably the nicest guy on the tour. What a shame he had to suffer from Mardy's awful attitude.

nadejda
01-07-2012, 12:26 PM
Mardy probably got mad for not getting any kisses from Grisho at the handshake :smooch: :lol:

Kat_YYZ
01-07-2012, 12:29 PM
One thought I had is that there might be a bigger onus on Grigor to keep his cool in this type of situation. Grigor had an incident with an umpire in late 2010 for which he was fined and suspended by the ATP. So now, even if the other player is the instigator, any incident involving GD might bring greater scrutiny on him because he has a 'record'. He'll have to work hard at not allowing himself to be provoked.

fmolinari2005
01-07-2012, 12:31 PM
Mardy probably got mad for not getting any kisses from Grisho at the handshake :smooch: :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I knew supporting Dimitrov would eventually pay off!:lol:

Pipsy
01-07-2012, 12:37 PM
Tennis-Dented pride caused Fish tantrum, says Cash

Mardy Fish blew his top in a bad-tempered Hopman Cup encounter between the United States and Bulgaria because he was embarrassed about being thrashed by his young opponent Grigor Dimitrov, Pat Cash said on Saturday.

Fish received a code of conduct warning for spitting in the direction of noisy Bulgarian fans during his 6-2 6-1 thrashing by 20-year-old Dimitrov on Friday and the pair had to be kept apart in the mixed doubles of the tie.

Tournament referee Soren Friemel confirmed he would compile a written report for the directors of the event and former Wimbledon champion Cash said he believed Fish was suffering from dented pride and unable to control his disappointment.

"You don't often see that, a bit of face-to-face on a tennis court," said Cash, who is working as a television commentator at the Burswood Dome.

"Mardy clearly was not in great form this week. He played pretty poorly and absolutely got annihilated by the youngster.

"Reading between the lines, and I don't know what happened, but it looked like Grigor was just saying to Mardy: 'What have I done wrong? I haven't done anything. I'm just trying to have a bit of fun here and you're attacking me, for what?'

"I don't think there's too much wrong with it. Boys just have to get on with it. They're fierce the competitors, that's the bottom line."

The Hopman Cup is an ITF event but no report will be sent to the governing body. Friemel said he did not expect the board of directors of the Hopman Cup to sanction Fish.

"I think it's better if you ask him (Fish)," Dimitrov said. "I'm sorry if I did something wrong. I'm going to apologise to him in the lockers when I see him, but I don't want to say much else about it."

Dimitrov boarded a flight to Sydney straight after his final Hopman Cup match. He played his first qualifying singles at the Sydney International just three hours after arriving from Perth and won.

And that's the bottom line...

Because Pat Cash said so!

Matt01
01-07-2012, 12:42 PM
Mardy probably got mad for not getting any kisses from Grisho at the handshake :smooch: :lol:


Probably. :rolls:

samanosuke
01-07-2012, 12:45 PM
Fish is just lucky that today's tour is full of pussies . Would like to see him talking like this with Tarango or Nastase

Riosreigned
01-07-2012, 01:43 PM
Fish is fishnished

Vida
01-07-2012, 02:02 PM
poor mardy thought it was an exo.

Looner
01-07-2012, 02:07 PM
Well, Fish played pretty well against Berdych. I don't think he was treating it like an exho at all. Shame I missed this show as it seems there were some chips with the Fish as well.

tripwires
01-07-2012, 02:42 PM
How does Pat Cash know why Fish blew up at Dimitrov? Even if that's probably it, it's a bit misleading that the article reported it as a fact when it was just conjecture.

I don't get why Fish took this match so seriously. Maybe he's just jealous that Dimitrov is hotter than him. :shrug:

Johnny Groove
01-07-2012, 02:55 PM
"I don't speak bulgarian, dumbasses" (spits towards the crowd)

:lol:

Mardy getting a little cranky in his older age. First that thing with Tsonga at the USO last year and now this, both classless scenarios. With him and Roddick, I'm shocked neither has won a Stefan Edberg Sportsmanship Award :p

Fish is just lucky that today's tour is full of pussies . Would like to see him talking like this with Tarango or Nastase

Fish might have had to play with a busted lip at the AO if he got into this kinda shit with a Connors or a Nastase.

swebright
01-07-2012, 04:46 PM
Spoiled brat. More correctly, spoiled grown man.

Sunset of Age
01-07-2012, 04:52 PM
Hey, a good old-fashioned tennis feud! Long-time-no-see! :boxing:
Still peanuts compared to the likes of Nasty, Jimbo, JohnnyMac, etc. in their glory days.

I sometimes see folks complaining that all the players nowadays are 'too nice', too PR-savvy, etc. Well, here's two lads for you guys to cheer for. ;)

MuzzahLovah
01-07-2012, 05:29 PM
Mardy probably got mad for not getting any kisses from Grisho at the handshake :smooch: :lol:

I would never forgive Grigor for denying me kisses.

rubbERR
01-07-2012, 05:32 PM
Great. Tennis needs hot blood temperaments and battles outside of tenniscourt.

soon Fed goes senil and does this Rafuel Nadul, watch out!

onewoman74
01-07-2012, 05:40 PM
This tournament has not been kind to Mardy's huge ego :lol: From being aced twice by Wozniacki to being trashed by a 20 year old.

Grisha is probably the nicest guy on the tour. What a shame he had to suffer from Mardy's awful attitude.

Is there video of Mardy being aced by Caroline? Please let this be on YouTube!!!:devil:

Sunset of Age
01-07-2012, 05:44 PM
Is there video of Mardy being aced by Caroline? Please let this be on YouTube!!!:devil:

Here it is, posted in the Funny Pictures Thread: http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=11606632&postcount=3611 :wavey:

simplet
01-07-2012, 05:47 PM
"I don't speak bulgarian, dumbasses" (spits towards the crowd)

Didn't he say exactly the same thing about french fans in USO against Tsonga? Fellow seems pretty proud of his ignorance.

onewoman74
01-07-2012, 05:47 PM
Here it is, posted in the Funny Pictures Thread: http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=11606632&postcount=3611 :wavey:

Brilliant! Thanks! :worship:

tennisfan856
01-07-2012, 06:12 PM
to be fair, mardy has played a lot of tennis in his career and these kind of outbursts don't really get attached to him. Being American or not, I feel like he was provoked a little bit and just didn't handle it well. Grigor is no angel.

simplet
01-07-2012, 06:14 PM
He didn't say it again, UsD was making a joke parodying that incident

Oh ok, nevermind then. Don't mind me

Hypnotize
01-07-2012, 06:24 PM
to be fair, mardy has played a lot of tennis in his career and these kind of outbursts don't really get attached to him. Being American or not, I feel like he was provoked a little bit and just didn't handle it well. Grigor is no angel.
How exactly was he provoked? Fish is just a cry-baby who has a habit of saying stupid things.

Looner
01-07-2012, 06:39 PM
Lol, I love how the Fish fans are trying to blame Grigor for sth he did not do. No one is saying he's an angel (he had to miss a few weeks before last year's AO for hitting a chair umpire or sth along those lines) but suggesting something must have happened for this amazing sportsperson to do sth inappropriate is really stupid.

He's done it recently against Tsonga and in this match he spat against Bulgarian fans, tried to hit Grigor with a ball and even approached him as they were sitting down. I am not sure what some here suggesting but it was Fish who was at fault and as the more experienced he's supposed to behave and set an example. Not be a Roddick.

tennisfan856
01-07-2012, 06:41 PM
How exactly was he provoked? Fish is just a cry-baby who has a habit of saying stupid things.

well, does anyone have actual video of the whole incident or just twitter observations and pat cash's speculation? I've seen Mardy get spanked, and even though he can be bitter, he doesn't normally make an asshole out of himself. Dimitrov doesn't have a perfect reputation, like the suspension last year from a challenger incident or the middle finger to the ump.

Need the whole incident on tape to see what's really going on, not pat bloody cash.

Hypnotize
01-07-2012, 06:57 PM
well, does anyone have actual video of the whole incident or just twitter observations and pat cash's speculation? I've seen Mardy get spanked, and even though he can be bitter, he doesn't normally make an asshole out of himself. Dimitrov doesn't have a perfect reputation, like the suspension last year from a challenger incident or the middle finger to the ump.

Need the whole incident on tape to see what's really going on, not pat bloody cash.
The lack of a video didn't exactly stop you from speculating yourself though. I watched the singles match live and Fish had a bad attitude through most of it. I agree with what Cash said as well, he looked pissed that he was being completely outplayed.

If you think Fish doesn't normally act like an asshole, you obviously haven't watched him much. You should check out the Tsonga match at the US Open for starters.

mark73
01-07-2012, 07:20 PM
The lack of a video didn't exactly stop you from speculating yourself though. I watched the singles match live and Fish had a bad attitude through most of it. I agree with what Cash said as well, he looked pissed that he was being completely outplayed.

If you think Fish doesn't normally act like an asshole, you obviously haven't watched him much. You should check out the Tsonga match at the US Open for starters.

He had to give up his favourite foods like pizza when he lost all that weight. Its not easy you know. :(

tennisfan856
01-07-2012, 07:43 PM
The lack of a video didn't exactly stop you from speculating yourself though. I watched the singles match live and Fish had a bad attitude through most of it. I agree with what Cash said as well, he looked pissed that he was being completely outplayed.

If you think Fish doesn't normally act like an asshole, you obviously haven't watched him much. You should check out the Tsonga match at the US Open for starters.

If you could name a handful of matches where he is doing this, then I would agree with you. He's not Roddick where every loss becomes an embarrassment. People seem to forget that Tsonga match where jo's player box was constantly talking during fish's service game. And it was picked up noticeably on CBS. "I don't speak French, dumbass" wasn't right, but what can Tsonga do when the damage has already been done, it was a stupid question on his part.

Riosreigned
01-07-2012, 07:55 PM
Fish also had a brouhaha with Agassi during and after their match in San Jose about eight years ago. Can't remember the details because I didn't see the match just heard about it, apparently it was about Agassi being offended by Fish's intensity and lack of respect. But tennis is a cutthroat business. Players are too good to take it easy on anybody.

Ozone
01-07-2012, 08:21 PM
Roddick's bitchyness has rubbed off on Mardy over the years. It's sad to see. However, Mardy is usually quick to make amends for things like this, just like last year's USO with Tsonga

allpro
01-07-2012, 08:28 PM
a tempest in a teapot. check out jimbo walking over the net and schooling jmac midpoint.

OYYUtb4GUHE

at least fish waited for the changeover to settle matters :lol:

Henry Chinaski
01-07-2012, 08:37 PM
the problem for fish is that his level drops like a stone when he gets mad.

outclutched by PHM when he said he was going to "beat his fucking ass".

lost to Tsonga in the "don't speak French dumbass" match right?

trounced by Grigor in this latest incident.

Still, at least he never shoved an umpire like Dimitrov did. Kid should have been banned for at least 6 months for that one. One of the worst things you can do in sports.

v-money
01-07-2012, 08:42 PM
I don't think Fish is as bad as Roddick but he expressed his frustration on multiple occasions. He cursed at PH Mathieu at Madrid 2008 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpSt5W49Oho). Then he had the incident with Tsonga (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU-tag2xpFY), which luckily ended without any huge incident. He also called out Nadal in last years WTF for taking that early bathroom break. He may have been justified in some of these cases but he just gets pissed too easily and he's vocal about it.

Others have mentioned Dimitrov's history, and he hasn't even been around for that long. I'm not surprised at all that these are the two players who got into an altercation.

henke007
01-07-2012, 08:47 PM
Did Grigor debate about the fact that Mugdy is in the top 10?!

Naudio Spanlatine
01-07-2012, 08:50 PM
Roddick=GOAT OF FIERY

LeChuck
01-07-2012, 09:08 PM
Both these players have a history of acting like complete assholes, so no surprise that things boiled over here.

I remember the incident at Key Biscayne in 2004 when Fish was playing Benneteau and shouted out loud ‘I cannot lose to the worst player in the draw’, and angrily said to Benneteau during the handshake ‘this is the last time you’ll beat me’. Plus there was the incident at Madrid in 2007 when he called PHM '‘f*ckin sh*tty frenchie’, and his match against Nieminen at the Aussie Open in 2008 when his anger got the better of him. And of course his clownishness against Tsonga at the US Open last year remains fresh in the memory.

As Henry said Dmitrov showed what a tool he is when he pushed the umpire after his match against Berankis at Helsinki in 2010 (and age was no excuse). I can't believe that he was only fined €2,000 for that.

nadejda
01-07-2012, 09:21 PM
http://straightsets.blogs.nytimes.com/

Tensions Run High in Australia

PERTH, Australia — Tempers flared repeatedly Friday in singles and mixed doubles matches at the Hyundai Hopman Cup between top-ranked American Mardy Fish and the 20-year-old Bulgarian Grigor Dmitrov, tensions that peaked with the two needing to be separated by a tournament official during a changeover.

With the Czech Republic having already won Group A earlier in the day, the final round-robin tie of the tournament could have become the sort of low-stakes “hit-and-giggle” that often takes place in relatively meaningless tennis matches, especially common in mixed doubles.

The women’s singles match that began the tie went without incident, as the 55th-ranked American Bethanie Mattek-Sands earned her first victory of the tournament with a workmanlike effort against 46th-ranked Bulgarian Tsvetana Pironkova, winning 6-4, 6-4.

But Fish, 30, seemed to take issue with the Bulgarian’s intensity in the singles match, and appeared to have some harsh words for the 76th-ranked Dmitrov at the net when the two shook hands after Dmitrov had reeled off a 6-2, 6-1 victory in just 58 minutes.

According to Tim Gossage of Channel 10 in Australia, Fish was given a code violation warning during the match for spitting in the direction of a block of flag-waving Bulgarian fans who were sitting several rows above the court.

In his interview after the singles match (which was his first career victory over a top ten player) Dmitrov seemed stunned by the eighth-ranked Fish’s behavior.

“Um, I think it’s better if you ask him,” Dmitrov said.

“It’s a thing, obviously, that maybe he wasn’t happy, but I’m sorry if I did something wrong. I’m going to also apologize to him in the lockers when I see him, but I don’t want to say much else about it.”

But rather than calming down after the short break between matches, tensions only escalated in the mixed doubles.

With Fish serving and trailing 1-3, Dmitrov hit a return, slipped, then scrambled to his feet and smacked a forehand winner past Mattek-Sands on his next shot. After staring down Dmitrov, between points, Fish sent his next serve (which was to be served to Pironkova) flying past Dmitrov. Dmitrov then closed toward the middle of the court for Fish’s second serve, standing practically on top of the center service line in encroachment and intimidation. A long, oft-spectacular rally ensued on that point, with Fish and Grigor sending smashes at one another almost exclusively. When Bulgaria eventually prevailed in the exchange, Dmitrov let out a roar toward the Bulgarian box and gave a fist pump.

Fish continued to target Dmitrov throughout the rest of the game, eventually holding serve to pull the Americans within 3-2.

During the ensuing changeover, Fish , who had taken his seat, shouted across at Dmitrov, who had never taken his seat. After the two argued from a distance for some time, the American walked over to the Bulgarian’s side of the court (where he was set to next play) and the two continued to argue, eventually being seperated by a tournament official. The two continued to talk back and forth for the duration of the changeover, eventually departing to their respective baselines once their female partners rose to join them.

In a nod to the rising tensions, the Hopman Cup DJ played Bobby McFerrin’s “Don’t Worry, Be Happy” during the next changeover, eliciting laughter from the crowd.

While the rest of the match remained tense, no further confrontations occurred. After Bulgaria sealed an 8-5 victory in the proset when Fish’s final forehand volley found the net, the two teams shook hands. Dmitrov and Fish spoke briefly again at the net, without incident.

The win made the underdog Bulgarians the only team to have won three round-robin doubles matches at the Hopman Cup this year.

Dmitrov spoke briefly about the incident on Bulgarian television network BNT after the doubles match.

It’s evident I’ve offended him with something, but I have no idea with what,” Dmitrov said.

“Things he said weren’t pretty, but clearly he is a top ten player and during the match no one said anything to him.”

Fish declined to comment directly on the incidents as he left the Burswood Dome, instead indicating that the scoreline of his matches was the only explanation needed for what had transpired. Fish, who won the Hopman Cup with Serena Williams in 2008, won only 2 of his 12 sets at the event this week.

Dmitrov boarded a transcontinental red-eye to Sydney immediately following the match to play a qualifying match at the Apia International Sydney, Saturday morning at 11 a.m. Sydney time, roughly nine hours after the mixed doubles in Perth ended. Dmitrov won the match in three sets against Estonian Jürgen Zopp.

Fish, who had lamented the brevity of his off-season after his match Wednesday, will play next week at the AAMI Kooyong Classic exhibition tournament in Melbourne.

Tournament referee Soren Friemel said that he would be filing a match report with the I.T.F., but did not expect any further discipline to be handed down

fast_clay
01-07-2012, 09:33 PM
Still, at least he never shoved an umpire like Dimitrov did. Kid should have been banned for at least 6 months for that one. One of the worst things you can do in sports.

everybody easily forgets this incident... to protect the young talents of the tour, this is the story we get but i have been led to believe that he punched one official and headbutted a local volunteer at the finnish challenger tournament causing a depressed fracture of the cheekbone... i'm always amused when i see ppl disarmed by the cheeky smile when in actual fact what we are dealing with here is an extremely violent and dangerous young man whose rise to the top could only be managed by tough-as-nails former top tenner, hard aussie peter mcnamara - a man who used to tackle parked cars for training warm downs... violence is the only thing dimitrov understands and respects... it is the currency he deals in i'm not surprised with fish having a dig here... fair play to him...

but, the atp protects who it will and persecutes the futures level rank 655 journeyman..

Saberq
01-07-2012, 09:39 PM
So Fish got angry because Dimitrov kicked his ass?

nadejda
01-07-2012, 09:39 PM
everybody easily forgets this incident... to protect the young talents of the tour, this is the story we get but i have been led to believe that he punched one official and headbutted a local volunteer at the finnish challenger tournament causing a depressed fracture of the cheekbone... i'm always amused when i see ppl disarmed by the cheeky smile when in actual fact what we are dealing with here is an extremely violent and dangerous young man whose rise to the top could only be managed by tough-as-nails former top tenner, hard aussie peter mcnamara - a man who used to tackle parked cars for training warm downs... violence is the only thing dimitrov understands and respects... it is the currency he deals in i'm not surprised with fish having a dig here... fair play to him...

but, the atp protects who it will and persecutes the futures level rank 655 journeyman..

:eek::eek:

are you okay? :confused:

Shirogane
01-07-2012, 10:33 PM
Fish also had a brouhaha with Agassi during and after their match in San Jose about eight years ago. Can't remember the details because I didn't see the match just heard about it, apparently it was about Agassi being offended by Fish's intensity and lack of respect. But tennis is a cutthroat business. Players are too good to take it easy on anybody.I remember what he said after the match... "Is Fish any good? Yes, it's got lots of proteins", or something like that. lol

MuzzahLovah
01-07-2012, 10:51 PM
Is there video of Dimitrov pushing the umpire?

nadejda
01-07-2012, 10:55 PM
Is there video of Dimitrov pushing the umpire?

no, it wasn't during the match but after

abraxas21
01-07-2012, 10:56 PM
It's funny Fish would blow up at Grigor of all people. Who could get mad at him?

sure, it's not like dimi doesn't have a history of trowing tantrums and abusing umpires :rolleyes:

abraxas21
01-07-2012, 10:58 PM
Grisha is probably the nicest guy on the tour.

:haha:

abraxas21
01-07-2012, 11:09 PM
Is there video of Dimitrov pushing the umpire?

it happened after the match.

but there's a vid of dimitrov showing his middle finger to another umpire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3VGp3aKB8g

i don't judge him for it but i post it just because im surprised at a lot of people who are now treating dimitrov as some kind of saint.

AceDimitrov
01-07-2012, 11:12 PM
So basically Fish had a go at Dimitrov for something stupid, because he couldnt face the fact that he was losing.

Lopez
01-07-2012, 11:31 PM
Is there video of Dimitrov pushing the umpire?

Sadly, I didn't have a camera ready when it happened :p. But I saw it from a few meters!

samanosuke
01-07-2012, 11:41 PM
it really is amusing how such an insult was thrown just like that for a whole region and several nations including without even watching what has actually happened there :confused:

and what americans are doing other than this with all nations

MuzzahLovah
01-08-2012, 12:08 AM
it happened after the match.

but there's a vid of dimitrov showing his middle finger to another umpire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3VGp3aKB8g

i don't judge him for it but i post it just because im surprised at a lot of people who are now treating dimitrov as some kind of saint.

:haha:

Bulgarian
01-08-2012, 12:20 AM
Bulgarian fans didn't chant anything inappropriate, just "Grigor, Grigor" and "Bulgarian heroes" (traditional bulgarian chant)... I have no idea why Fish did that, Grigor really didn't do anything wrong. Hope they meet again at AO 1st round :D

Kat_YYZ
01-08-2012, 12:32 AM
it happened after the match.

but there's a vid of dimitrov showing his middle finger to another umpire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3VGp3aKB8g

i don't judge him for it but i post it just because im surprised at a lot of people who are now treating dimitrov as some kind of saint.

But in this incident Dimitrov didn't do anything except beat the pants off Fish and be happy about it. Nothing wrong with that. What was Dimitrov supposed to do -- stay seated on his chair and stare quietly at the floor while Fish insulted him?? Because of one bad act in the past he has no right to stand up for himself ever again? I don't mind bringing up prior bad acts when they are relevant, but in this case I really don't see what Dimitrov should have done differently.

abraxas21
01-08-2012, 12:40 AM
But in this incident Dimitrov didn't do anything except beat the pants off Fish and be happy about it. Nothing wrong with that. What was Dimitrov supposed to do -- stay seated on his chair and stare quietly at the floor while Fish insulted him?? Because of one bad act in the past he has no right to stand up for himself ever again? I don't mind bringing up prior bad acts when they are relevant, but in this case I really don't see what Dimitrov should have done differently.

im not questioning dimi's behaviour here. i just pointed out a couple of examples of his behaviour in the past purely to express the reasons of my surprise at the ones who suddenly act as if he was some type of all-class player.

Orka_n
01-08-2012, 12:41 AM
Fish :rolleyes:

fast_clay
01-08-2012, 12:44 AM
:eek::eek:

are you okay? :confused:

yeah... i think i made a couple of typos there

Mountaindewslave
01-08-2012, 12:44 AM
:eek::eek:

are you okay? :confused:

it's called SARCASM which Fastclay is persistant at.

Mardy fish is an ass hole and there is no arguing otherwise. I like the guy a lot! his game is good often and in general he seems like a kind guy, but when he is losing matches he thinks he should win for whatever reason, he turns into an ass hole with a temper. I would say it is almost worse than Roddick because Roddick usually attacks the umpire not the player and Fish seems to get more upset at his opponent than anything else.

Dimitrov being a jerk is a false rumor. he barely pushed an umpire which was such a small infringement that he got a few weeks ban because the ATP knew it was a small thing. he also put his middle finger up one time?? who cares. Dimitrov has been spoken up by delusionals as some angry violent player when he is anything but.

watching the videos and seeing Mardy keep approaching Dimitrov and causing trouble and EVEN trying to hit him with a ball in doubles says it all. Mardy's bitter, his career is almost over and losing to a young gun who will probably won day win Grand Slams frustrates him. that's all. and to people like "Tangerine Dream" grow up you childddd, just because you're a fan of a player does not mean it gives you permission to make up bullshit and fake up theories of why Mardy is justified for his rude behavior. I'll tell you something, his actions in the Hopman CUp have not only lost him fans but also probably hurt him mentally, showing opponents that even in an exhibition like surrounding he can't keep his cool

Looner
01-08-2012, 12:47 AM
im not questioning dimi's behaviour here. i just pointed out a couple of examples of his behaviour in the past purely to express the reasons of my surprise at the ones who suddenly act as if he was some type of all-class player.

I think the ones acting 'surprised' were playing on the 'He's so cuuuute' act and weren't necessarily unaware of his previous atrocious acts (OK, maybe not atrocious but still very bad).

It's just that Fish apparently spat in the direction of the fans who were just cheering for their man. The umpire never said anything about them being too rowdy (as opposed to Djoko fans if you want to make a comparison of the 'region' which is still retarded). People were genuinely happy to see their countryman doing well.

I suppose only Americans are allowed to behave like pigs at USO and shout insults at foreign players.

abraxas21
01-08-2012, 12:51 AM
I think the ones acting 'surprised' were playing on the 'He's so cuuuute' act and weren't necessarily unaware of his previous atrocious acts (OK, maybe not atrocious but still very bad).

It's just that Fish apparently spat in the direction of the fans who were just cheering for their man. The umpire never said anything about them being too rowdy (as opposed to Djoko fans if you want to make a comparison of the 'region' which is still retarded). People were genuinely happy to see their countryman doing well.

should we take the umpire's judgement as a fact? but this isn't the point. i'm not here to defend fish.

I suppose only Americans are allowed to behave like pigs at USO and shout insults at foreign players.

actually, the yanks are the ones who probly get the worst rap here. even the american posters (okay, maybe not tangy) seem to be fairly critical of their own players' behaviour. i'd even say that the yank posters of MTF are the least nationalistic fanbase of this whole site.

Looner
01-08-2012, 01:04 AM
^^
I was referring to idiotic crowds at the USO who cheer between 1st and 2nd serves. As for your dismissal of the umpire's appraisal of the situation, the actual supervisor came out to stop the whole thing because Fish was so persistent...

As for yank posters on here, they're one of the best ones (except some Nadal fans :P) and are always fair. But posters on MTF are not representative of tennis crowds.

Thunderfish8
01-08-2012, 03:41 AM
can somebody enlighten me on how this thread is in any way related to nationalistic americans or the balkans being retarded??? :roll eyes:

btw, did anybody ever figure out what sparked the incident in the first place???

Sauletekis
01-08-2012, 03:53 AM
This tournament has not been kind to Mardy's huge ego :lol: From being aced twice by Wozniacki to being trashed by a 20 year old.

Grisha is probably the nicest guy on the tour. What a shame he had to suffer from Mardy's awful attitude.

Fish was clearly the dushbag in this situation, but don't act like Grigor is an angel. The incident with the referee was a year and an half ago. Funny how people's memory sometimes works as the same memory of a.... fish :wavey:

BroTree123
01-08-2012, 04:39 AM
You know Fish is on the decline when he's flipping out over nothing. Hmm....that sounds familiar, doesn't it? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:.

RafaNadal2012!!!
01-08-2012, 05:43 AM
Mardy's always had great temperament

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpSt5W49Oho&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL9BA5017F706ACCE1

JayR
01-08-2012, 11:38 AM
:lol:

Mardy getting a little cranky in his older age. First that thing with Tsonga at the USO last year and now this, both classless scenarios. With him and Roddick, I'm shocked neither has won a Stefan Edberg Sportsmanship Award :p

Fish might have had to play with a busted lip at the AO if he got into this kinda shit with a Connors or a Nastase.

:lol:

And probably minus a few teeth.

to be fair, mardy has played a lot of tennis in his career and these kinds of outbursts don't really get attached to him Being American or not, I feel like he was provoked a little bit and just didn't handle it well. Grigor is no angel.

Both these players have a history of acting like complete assholes, so no surprise that things boiled over here.

I remember the incident at Key Biscayne in 2004 when Fish was playing Benneteau and shouted out loud ‘I cannot lose to the worst player in the draw’, and angrily said to Benneteau during the handshake ‘this is the last time you’ll beat me’. Plus there was the incident at Madrid in 2007 when he called PHM '‘f*ckin sh*tty frenchie’, and his match against Nieminen at the Aussie Open in 2008 when his anger got the better of him. And of course his clownishness against Tsonga at the US Open last year remains fresh in the memory.



Will these examples do to be going on with?

a tempest in a teapot. check out jimbo walking over the net and schooling jmac midpoint.

OYYUtb4GUHE

at least fish waited for the changeover to settle matters :lol:

Extract taken from Tennis Etiquette 101 - By Jimmy Connors. :lol:

I remember what he said after the match... "Is Fish any good? Yes, it's got lots of proteins", or something like that. lol

:lol:

Topspindoctor
01-08-2012, 11:42 AM
Fish is a clown of the highest order, can't believe a disagreeable mug like him made top 10. The sooner he is out of top 10 next year, the better it is for tennis. Really unsavory character.

Matt01
01-08-2012, 11:56 AM
im not questioning dimi's behaviour here. i just pointed out a couple of examples of his behaviour in the past purely to express the reasons of my surprise at the ones who suddenly act as if he was some type of all-class player.


And that's why you had to bring up an incident from 5 years ago? Okay. :rolleyes:

sports freak
01-08-2012, 12:52 PM
Simple,Fish was spewing cos on the other side was Pironkova while he gets to play with Mattek Sands!Surely that's UNFAIR in his mind!

Shirogane
01-08-2012, 01:38 PM
:lol: So very unfair :hearts: and I like BMS.

Mr.Michael
01-08-2012, 05:07 PM
I also wonder what happened years ago in that match with Agassi. Although it sounds pretty funny that Agassi was demanding respect from someone. Agassi himself was an a-hole during his younger years.

Just imagine the insults Fish would have shouted towards Bill Tilden.

gindyo
01-08-2012, 06:17 PM
here are the highlights of the match http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPXawNcZvfo&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

EDIT: Sorry I had put the wrong link.

benji47
01-08-2012, 09:11 PM
The fish fans NEED to stop trying.

People who watched the singles and doubles matches ALL know that it was just Fish being a pissy dumbass who had too much to lose. Grigor even sensed his anger during the singles match, and when he got lucky on a point he put a hand up for literally 10 damn seconds to apologize because he knew Fish was gonna explode anytime. And after Fish said those things during the handshake, Grigor was so stunned and didn't move for 5 seconds as he had no idea what did he do to piss Fish off. Even during the interview he said he didn't know what Fish was pissed about but would talk to him in the locker room.

Fish was just mad that he was trashed and had to find a reason to take it out on someone, Grigor Dimitrov didn't do anything disrespectful.

Hypnotize
01-08-2012, 11:54 PM
here are the highlights of the match http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPXawNcZvfo&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

EDIT: Sorry I had put the wrong link.
Thanks for posting, I really wanted to see that match again. Watching it, it's clear has balance and timing have improved so much since last year. His groundstrokes have a lot more bite, his serve is more reliable and he showed great touch at the net. It was a perfect match from Grigor and the point he won at 3-1 in the 2nd set was fantastic. I hope he brings this form to the Australian Open.

Looner
01-09-2012, 12:07 AM
Someone mentioned the courts in Perth were fast indoor. Is that really the case as I did not see a roof over the stadium. The court also had the same colours as the AO so I just presumed it's the same surface or was I wrong?

Topspindoctor
01-09-2012, 09:10 AM
]Someone mentioned the courts in Perth were fast indoor[/B]. Is that really the case as I did not see a roof over the stadium. The court also had the same colours as the AO so I just presumed it's the same surface or was I wrong?

Courts were indoors, but hideously slow.

leng jai
01-09-2012, 09:12 AM
Hopman Cup is god awful to watch. Combination of horrible camera angle and slow conditions.

alfonsojose
01-09-2012, 03:51 PM
If he wants to be the new Roddick, crap like this is required :rolleyes: :zzz:

Al_Loves_Tennis
01-11-2012, 05:39 PM
I don't understand why Dimitrov's past incident with a chair umpire was brought up at all when Fish was clearly the instigator in THIS situation. In this case, Dimitrov did nothing wrong. Sure, his assault of the umpire wasn't the best decision, but young people grow up and often can (and do) change. Mardy is 30 - he should already have GROWN UP!