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Doha SF Monfils def Nadal 6-3 6-4

!VamosRafa!
01-06-2012, 04:57 PM
NID, although I expected an easier win for Gael :worship:
Monfils won the last 5 games in a row to finish the match off, down 1-4.


Rafa, you choking idiot :o

Rafa is now the Wozniacki of the ATP world. Ranked so high. but cannot defeat any decent player :rolleyes:

Incredible last game, such high quality, Rafa fought so well, but Gael was :worship:

viruzzz
01-06-2012, 04:57 PM
Ooookay, I just watched the 2nd set, but what I say was great tennis quality by both players.
Nadal played some volleys who killed Monfils so many times and was leading by a break.

But then, Monfils woked up and played in a great level, I think it was better than 2010 Paris SF vs Fed. And that match was epic.

So many "flying points", Monfils can jump really damn high. I really like this player, he makes every match an exho.
Even when he Broke Rafa at 4-4, that game was absolutely AMAZING for a returner, that highlights must be recorded.
One of the little things I like about Rafa is he never loses a point until it's definetly lost.

Monfils ran more than Rafa, and that's enough to say. I always loved his speed.
But yeah... He was a little clownish so many times, come on! it's funny :D

France has a title in the bag.
Go Gael! Go Jo!!!

Renaud
01-06-2012, 04:58 PM
I wish Qatar did not buy only PSG but also Roland Garros and moved it to Doha.

Sean.
01-06-2012, 04:58 PM
Nadal just lacks any fire at the moment, he let Monfils walk all over him!

Having said that Gael was electric at times. :worship:

Shirogane
01-06-2012, 04:58 PM
lol

_Chaz
01-06-2012, 04:58 PM
I only watched the end of the 2nd set but I've seen nothing of Rafa's aggressive BH he showed earlier this tournament, only pushing with it.
And Monfils played very good, no clowning. That's the Monfils I like, not the Clownfils I dislike ;)

habibko
01-06-2012, 04:58 PM
:superlol:

TMJordan
01-06-2012, 04:59 PM
Nadal, you are so bad.

alter ego
01-06-2012, 04:59 PM
Monfils faster than Usain Bolt!

GSMnadal
01-06-2012, 04:59 PM
Disgusting performance by Rafa, should've won that second set about 6-1

Amount of close games won by Nadal: A big fat ZERO, surprise surprise

Great for Gael :yeah: Hope this'll get his career going that step further, what a fight from La Monf :worship:

!VamosRafa!
01-06-2012, 04:59 PM
At least Rafa didn't give up, he fought so well and played great!

Please make at least the R4 in AO :hug:

Gael, bravo, you played a great match and good luck tomorrow, although I'll be rooting for Tsonga.

henke007
01-06-2012, 04:59 PM
Did you see Lamonf in that point to set up 3rd Mp http://www.vamosrafa.se/GUI/images/s/mouthopen.gif

Epic stuff, hope he wins the title now to even out the bad ratio..

Puschkin
01-06-2012, 04:59 PM
:woohoo: bravo Gael, well played! Now please take the whole thing tomorrow!

samanosuke
01-06-2012, 04:59 PM
Clown roasted a pig . Good for McDonalds

yesh222
01-06-2012, 04:59 PM
Monfils played an amazing match. If he can keep that level in Australia, he'll go very far.

selyoink
01-06-2012, 05:00 PM
Nadull helpless against the movement and power of Monfils. If Monfils could play like this all the time maybe he would achieve something.

Sonja1989
01-06-2012, 05:00 PM
Oh Rafa :bigcry: He played a terrible match, hope it will be changed for the AO. :scared: :unsure:

Lopez
01-06-2012, 05:00 PM
Great rallies here, especially the penultimate point.

This is the Monfils that I've always liked. Watch him play like a defensive clown 20 meters behind the baseline tomorrow and for the rest of the year.

So much potential, but the tennis brain is just simply not there...

Tennis-Life
01-06-2012, 05:01 PM
great tennis by Monfils :worship:

Punky
01-06-2012, 05:01 PM
nadal didn't look good at all

Ben.
01-06-2012, 05:01 PM
Well played Monfils, was really good today.

Rafa, buy a new brain. He is hitting the ball decently enough but he is so clueless. Not to mention the fact he can't win a close game, got into many return games but only made a few BPs.

Chirag
01-06-2012, 05:01 PM
thered title made me laugh really .
Nadal just wasnt there today :cry:

Sophocles
01-06-2012, 05:01 PM
Excellent play from Monfils. Defended brilliantly, hit his cross-court backhand with consistent venom, and pulled the trigger on his forehand when he needed to, usually with some success. Also played well at the net, served out of a tree, & got pretty much every return in play.

As for Nadal, perhaps his fans will learn not to put so much stock into an entertaining but straightforward victory against a past-it Youzhny.

GSMnadal
01-06-2012, 05:01 PM
At least Rafa didn't give up, he fought so well and played great!

Please make at least the R4 in AO :hug:

Gael, bravo, you played a great match and good luck tomorrow, although I'll be rooting for Tsonga.

Are you freaking kidding me, he was awful and didn't fight at all....folded like a cheap tent is more like it

tennizen
01-06-2012, 05:02 PM
Monfils in the mood today.

Evitman
01-06-2012, 05:02 PM
Some beautiful winners from Monfils :worship:

samanosuke
01-06-2012, 05:02 PM
This are happy moments but at the same time very sad . can't believe someone with game like this won 10 slams

Nole Rules
01-06-2012, 05:03 PM
Not a surprisig result really. Gael did beat him before in the same tournement in 2009. :shrug:

habibko
01-06-2012, 05:03 PM
my shoulder is broken no?

Telegram Sam
01-06-2012, 05:03 PM
Oh wow. I can understand Set 1, but a champion like Nadal should have won the second. It's imperative: he had a break point to go 4-0 up, and another for 5-3 and therefore a chance to serve it out. Not only he wasted both, but he completely fell apart serving at 4-4!

I'm extremely disappointed. Not so much about the outcome of the match, but about his state. Doesn't look good.

The set was in his pocket, and somehow he lost it 6-4! Not even in the TB! Horrific.

Naudio Spanlatine
01-06-2012, 05:03 PM
THE AGONY OF MY HEART IS BROKEN ONCE MORE, LAST NIGHT I SPREAD FIERY TO PETRA, THIS TIME WELL, IMMA TRY MY BEST NOT TO LET OUT MY HELLNESS, BUT I CANT ITS JUS TOO MUCH TO TAKE:shout: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :shout:

MonfilsFanatic :hug: :hug: :smooch: :kiss: :smooch:

Nole Rules
01-06-2012, 05:05 PM
The attacker defeated the defender. Good for the game.

_Chaz
01-06-2012, 05:05 PM
Monfils surely the most dangerous guy out of the 13-16 seedings range. One of the top 4 could get a really hard draw in meeting Monfils in R4 and Tsonga/Berdych in QFs.

GSMnadal
01-06-2012, 05:05 PM
Oh wow. I can understand Set 1, but a champion like Nadal should have won the second. It's imperative: he had a break point to go 4-0 up, and another for 5-3 and therefore a chance to serve it out. Not only he wasted both, but he completely fell apart serving at 4-4!

I'm extremely disappointed. Not so much about the outcome of the match, but about his state. Doesn't look good.

The set was in his pocket, and somehow he lost it 6-4! Not even in the TB! Horrific.

Yes, it's disgraceful... anyone with a half decent backhand can beat Nadal these days.

Mystique
01-06-2012, 05:05 PM
Too good from Monfils.
He is one French tennis player I generally dislike, but that was some great stuff from him out there today, putting Nadal to the sword for the best part of the match.
Doesnt change the fact that he plays like this once or twice a year and the rest of the time is just :facepalm: to watch.
When he does play well though, he can match the best.
Good stuff, hope it will be a great final. I like Jo and wanted him to win this whole thing once Rog forfeited but Gael deserves the title more now:hatoff:


And yep, very happy Nadal didnt win the title, I will not deny:D

samanosuke
01-06-2012, 05:05 PM
Nadal's life philosophy is get run and keep running

Corey Feldman
01-06-2012, 05:05 PM
Dedicated to big mouth himself :worship:

Too easy for the King of Clay. The title is almost in the bag now.

Olderer is not winning this title. He better tank to Clownga and avoid another humiliation at the hands of topspin King.

Expected result. Gremelmugyr is an awful player. Can't wait for Nadal to routine Olderer in the finals :drool:

Expected result. Mugschreiber is a journeyman and can't trouble Nadal even when he's playing at 10%. Good practice match, Nadal is favorite for the title here easily.

paseo
01-06-2012, 05:05 PM
Legendary, this Monfils!

TheBoiledEgg
01-06-2012, 05:06 PM
Monfils :woohoo:
awesome start, clownish middle but great ending

Saberq
01-06-2012, 05:06 PM
Nadal lost his motive for SF after Fed retired

madmax
01-06-2012, 05:07 PM
Nadullniacki can't beat a decent player to save his/her life:haha: NID

Vida
01-06-2012, 05:07 PM
more of these to come.

Cleffa
01-06-2012, 05:07 PM
omg what a performance by Monfils I watched his match against Troicki and thought he's very solid and should have a chance in winning Nadal. Just didn't expect it to be that entertaining. I was so afraid that he's going to choke after all that effort coming from behind to lead 5-4 and spoil everything but he did it. What a man.

Really think he has great potential of getting a ranking higher than 7 imo.

All French final :woohoo:

Stronga23
01-06-2012, 05:08 PM
THE AGONY OF MY HEART IS BROKEN ONCE MORE, LAST NIGHT I SPREAD FIERY TO PETRA, THIS TIME WELL, IMMA TRY MY BEST NOT TO LET OUT MY HELLNESS, BUT I CANT ITS JUS TOO MUCH TO TAKE:shout: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :shout:

MonfilsFanatic :hug: :hug: :smooch: :kiss: :smooch:

:hearts::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug:: I love you just remember that and so does Rafa :D

NID
01-06-2012, 05:08 PM
Nadal looks out of touch with ten days to go.

Rafa is the GOAT
01-06-2012, 05:10 PM
In 2009 Rafa lost to Gael as wel in doha and went on to win AO. Hope this happens again!

samanosuke
01-06-2012, 05:12 PM
I am opening vbetting what injury caused this lost . You can PM me for the odds . better hurry up . press is soon

DanaKz
01-06-2012, 05:12 PM
Gaelito!!!! http://yoursmileys.ru/msmile/pozitive/m1005.gif

Sunset of Age
01-06-2012, 05:12 PM
Well, not the best day of tennis for me today. :sad:

Monfils somehow managed to even surpass his level of play which he showed yesterday. What an athletism, and damn, he even kept his head cool for most of the match! :o
Rafa stepped it up at the beginning of the second set, and for a while it looked like he managed to take control again, leading with a break - but Monfils was having none of it, and some very poor and passive games by Nadal (he had his share of 'clowning' in the 2nd set as well :facepalm:) lead to him taking it over once again.

The final game was nailbiting, Monfils to serve it out and of course he started off with his (only) DF of the match, and again I still believed (/hoped) Rafa would be able to turn it around when it came to deuce. However, Monfils played a nearly unbelievable rally/point to take the advantage, and I think there's the point where it became clear that this was indeed Monfils' match to take.

Better player won, congrats to Monfils. Amazing performance by him, and I hope this is a genuine sign of the new Monfils. :hatoff:

Rafa :hug: - still a good tournament, positives to take from here, as I think he was playing a lot better than at the tail end of 2011. Work cut out for him on the drawing board for the upcoming AO. :hug:

tennis2tennis
01-06-2012, 05:12 PM
the only question I have is why can't monfils play like that for longer periods and during the grandslams? I love the little chuckle he gave the umpire when he challanged a ball that was clearly 3 meters in;)

i'd love to see him in sliding competition against nole

tektonac
01-06-2012, 05:13 PM
Nadal lost his motive for SF after Fed retired

this->

MariaV
01-06-2012, 05:13 PM
In 2009 Rafa lost to Gael as wel in doha and went on to win AO. Hope this happens again!

I don't see that happening again. ;)

samanosuke
01-06-2012, 05:13 PM
If I am a tennis player and Monfils beat me whit more attacking game than I was playing I would retire immediately

Manequin75
01-06-2012, 05:14 PM
last time rafa lost to monfils in doha was 2009. And Rafito won the AO that year.

wouldn't mind a repeat in 2012 eh?

Nole Rules
01-06-2012, 05:14 PM
Now every player with decent talent can beat Nadal, thanks to Nole.

Certinfy
01-06-2012, 05:14 PM
Gael and Lyndon :woohoo: :bounce: :D

Fucking amazing!

samanosuke
01-06-2012, 05:14 PM
Nadal lost his motive for SF after Fed retired

or Fed withdrew because he knew He wouldn't get confidence booster in the finals

Saberq
01-06-2012, 05:15 PM
In 2009 Rafa lost to Gael as wel in doha and went on to win AO. Hope this happens again!

try praying

The Freak
01-06-2012, 05:15 PM
Beast Gael showed up today. Doubt he'll beat Jo though.

samanosuke
01-06-2012, 05:17 PM
all good people please boycott this thread . in monfils schools nadalniacki is better party

viruzzz
01-06-2012, 05:19 PM
THE AGONY OF MY HEART IS BROKEN ONCE MORE, LAST NIGHT I SPREAD FIERY TO PETRA, THIS TIME WELL, IMMA TRY MY BEST NOT TO LET OUT MY HELLNESS, BUT I CANT ITS JUS TOO MUCH TO TAKE:shout: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :shout:

MonfilsFanatic :hug: :hug: :smooch: :kiss: :smooch:

Come on Dee, it's a 250 event. Rafa will be back for AO, and that's the real deal.

scarecrows
01-06-2012, 05:20 PM
What about GSMNadal :scratch:?

he's probably one of the few sane posters that have Nadal in their username

gators0708
01-06-2012, 05:20 PM
ALLEZZZ what a great match by Gael!!!

Saberq
01-06-2012, 05:20 PM
or Fed withdrew because he knew He wouldn't get confidence booster in the finals

yeah you never know.........but Nadal looked mediocre

Chris Kuerten
01-06-2012, 05:21 PM
Happy times!

samanosuke
01-06-2012, 05:22 PM
1 cent question

when nadal will defend non clay court title ?

Saberq
01-06-2012, 05:23 PM
1 cent question

when nadal will defend non clay court title ?

not this year given that he is not defending any non clay court titles....:cool:

misty1
01-06-2012, 05:23 PM
who knows but he wasnt defending this

Looner
01-06-2012, 05:24 PM
Well, he defended his semi from last year so I'd say (hypothetically speaking) if he remains in the same form for another ten years, I'd give him a 50% chance. I mean flukes are hard to come by nowadays but you never know in the future.

MariaV
01-06-2012, 05:24 PM
1 cent question

when nadal will defend non clay court title ?

Never. :D :D :D :shrug: He'll retire by the end of this season at the latest. :D :D :D

samanosuke
01-06-2012, 05:24 PM
not this year given that he is not defending any non clay court titles....:cool:

correct

but i thought in more futuristic terms

Corey Feldman
01-06-2012, 05:24 PM
:lol: samano

samanosuke
01-06-2012, 05:25 PM
Never. :D :D :D :shrug: He'll retire by the end of this season at the latest. :D :D :D

i owe you a cent

MuzzahLovah
01-06-2012, 05:39 PM
Please someone, where can I watch this? Highlights or the whole thing? I have to see this. I can't believe it otherwise!
:haha:
Le Monf :worship:

Gagsquet
01-06-2012, 05:42 PM
always a good thing when Nadal loses -against a Frenchman-
:drool:

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmk62tlwb81qd0dbc.gif

Lopez
01-06-2012, 05:42 PM
Please someone, where can I watch this? Highlights or the whole thing? I have to see this. I can't believe it otherwise!
:haha:
Le Monf :worship:

*La Monf

abraxas21
01-06-2012, 06:16 PM
good on monfils

he's improved a lot lately. barring a major injury, he should finish this year within the top 8.

nsidhan
01-06-2012, 06:17 PM
Hahaha Nadaliacki...I like that nickname. :yeah:

Johnny Groove
01-06-2012, 06:22 PM
Rafa I thought was pretty good in the first set, Monfils was better.

In the second, I saw Rafa get up 4-1 and thought, ok, this is going 3. Then I had to leave and I come back and the mug lost 5 games in a row :facepalm:

Though, Rafa lost to Monfils in Doha SF in 09, before winning the AO. :yeah:

guichard
01-06-2012, 06:23 PM
Please someone, where can I watch this? Highlights or the whole thing? I have to see this. I can't believe it otherwise!
:haha:
Le Monf :worship:
Check the official youtube channel in few hours http://www.youtube.com/user/QatarExxonMobilOpen/videos they will have it

Corey Feldman
01-06-2012, 06:24 PM
well look on the brightside, last time he lost to Monf here he won Aussie Open in next tournament

when Fed choked that final to him

Naudio Spanlatine
01-06-2012, 06:24 PM
Samano is trolling these days i see:rolleyes:

:hearts::hug::hug::hug::hug: I love you just remember that and so does Rafa :D

Come on Dee, it's a 250 event. Rafa will be back for AO, and that's the real deal.
I love you to Lyndon:kiss: :kiss: :smooch: :smooch: :hug: :hug:

Oh Juan i always take these events serious too:lol: im that much of a perfectionist:haha: :o :hug:

Just like heaven
01-06-2012, 06:25 PM
:facepalm:

nsidhan
01-06-2012, 06:34 PM
This are happy moments but at the same time very sad . can't believe someone with game like this won 10 slams

Life is more fair in the WTA. Look what Wozniacki is going through ;).

tektonac
01-06-2012, 06:39 PM
Samano is trolling these days i see:rolleyes:




I love you to Lyndon:kiss: :kiss: :smooch: :smooch: :hug: :hug:

Oh Juan i always take these events serious too:lol: im that much of a perfectionist:haha: :o :hug:

why did u leave out "puke" part :lol:

Naudio Spanlatine
01-06-2012, 06:39 PM
For you guys to put wozniacki and nadal together is the most disguisting thing ever:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

and i like both players too

Naudio Spanlatine
01-06-2012, 06:40 PM
why did u leave out "puke" part :lol:

:secret:i didnt wanna go do another debate, not today :haha:

samanosuke
01-06-2012, 06:47 PM
why did u leave out "puke" part :lol:

she was testing your brain cells :lol:

you passed the test :yeah:

EddieNero
01-06-2012, 06:57 PM
Those who recall Doha 2009 apparently forgot Nadal was at his peak then.
Now he's in a significant decline.

samanosuke
01-06-2012, 07:26 PM
This defeat is dedicated to Roig and his body gesticulation like Nadal is capable for anything better

bokehlicious
01-06-2012, 07:34 PM
dedicated to topspinmoron.

stebs
01-06-2012, 07:34 PM
Great stuff from Monfils. Doesn't equate to Nadal being easy to beat in a grand slam best of 5 though, he will be there of thereabouts come the second week on Oz.

Ash86
01-06-2012, 07:34 PM
Well - disappointing as he had a good shot at the title with no Davydenko in sight but got to give it to Gael - he played unreal and deserved the win. Given how he played in Abu Dhabi & the general sense of broken shoulder/had no time to practice/we'll see how it goes etc. I think 4 matches, 2 with the opponents playing at a pretty high level, is positive and I'd have been happy with a semi a week ago. Clearly this isn't the same as 09 when he was at his peak so we can't expect the same result (!) but Rafa's level from the Youzhny match is probably more likely to be seen in Australia than Gael's level from today - Monfils seems to have one amazing match followed by many very mediocre ones...

Nadal's playing well enough to get to the QFs at least barring being very unlucky with the draw....

HKz
01-06-2012, 07:37 PM
dedicated to topspinmoron.

Funny how he always takes off when his god fails. Trying to find as many excuses as he can especially since he makes awful predictions all the time.

Either way, this loss means nothing for now, Nadal will be back for AO.

GSMnadal
01-06-2012, 07:45 PM
http://tissuecoupons.org/wp-content/uploads/_kleenex2.jpg

Could come in handy here seeing the posts. For both fanbases (or anti-fanbase is more like it).

samanosuke
01-06-2012, 07:52 PM
http://tissuecoupons.org/wp-content/uploads/_kleenex2.jpg

Could come in handy here seeing the posts. For both fanbases (or anti-fanbase is more like it).

just this one left ?

GSMnadal
01-06-2012, 08:01 PM
just this one left ?

You need more? I mean, I know you're excited, but this was just a 250. Or are you stocking up for the AO?

simplet
01-06-2012, 08:04 PM
just this one left ?

Nobody gloats like you Samanosuke, nobody. This is art.

Corey Feldman
01-06-2012, 08:05 PM
:lol:

AllezUSA
01-06-2012, 08:07 PM
Love all of these backhanded compliments for Godfils, now that he just
got through punking your idol! All-black final in Doha busters, it will
be like Christmas and Easter rolled into one for me. Today will forever
be known in the annals of tennis lore as Black Friday. Peace.

Sunset of Age
01-06-2012, 08:14 PM
Funny how he always takes off when his god fails. Trying to find as many excuses as he can especially since he makes awful predictions all the time.

Topspindoc was on quite a trolling roll yesterday, he'd get more respect from me if he shows up soon to eat some tasty crow. I bet he will. :p

Either way, this loss means nothing for now, Nadal will be back for AO.

I wouldn't say that it means 'nothing', but agree with you that Rafa will certainly do his utmost will to come all-guns-blazing to Australia. Judging on his improvement here in Doha already (yes I think he was playing a lot better than in late 2011 here), I think it's ultimately wrong to rule out his chances for the AO.

alter ego
01-06-2012, 08:18 PM
just this one left ?

Nobody gloats like you Samanosuke, nobody. This is art.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to samanosuke again

Gagsquet
01-06-2012, 08:26 PM
To be honest, Nadal is not a serious contender anymore so bashing him is definitely more easy than before, even too easy now.
He is done :shrug:
Djoko bashing is much more difficult and prestigious now, I will dedicate myself to that from now on.

samanosuke
01-06-2012, 08:27 PM
but this was just a 250

then you know what can you expect for AO

samanosuke
01-06-2012, 08:28 PM
To be honest, Nadal is not a serious contender anymore so bashing him is definitely more easy than before, too easy now.
He is done :shrug:


wrong, so wrong my friend . before I had more time for peaking . now have to be ready week in and week out . sometimes even few times per week

Looner
01-06-2012, 08:58 PM
Well - disappointing as he had a good shot at the title with no Davydenko in sight but got to give it to Gael - he played unreal and deserved the win. Given how he played in Abu Dhabi & the general sense of broken shoulder/had no time to practice/we'll see how it goes etc. I think 4 matches, 2 with the opponents playing at a pretty high level, is positive and I'd have been happy with a semi a week ago. Clearly this isn't the same as 09 when he was at his peak so we can't expect the same result (!) but Rafa's level from the Youzhny match is probably more likely to be seen in Australia than Gael's level from today - Monfils seems to have one amazing match followed by many very mediocre ones...

Nadal's playing well enough to get to the QFs at least barring being very unlucky with the draw....

Are you perhaps turning to comedy after your idol has failed at tennis?

Sunset of Age
01-06-2012, 09:04 PM
To be honest, Nadal is not a serious contender anymore so bashing him is definitely more easy than before, even too easy now.
He is done :shrug:

You're making a mistake. :wavey:

RafaNadal2012!!!
01-06-2012, 09:09 PM
http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/imgs/m1-abrams_2.jpg

Rafa needs to stay fresh, Roger just did it easier by pulling out. Let the Frenchies peak at the wrong time and win Doha. Rafa and Roger peak for slams. Montreal and Cinci Nadal played like shit and still made final and would have beat anyone but Djokovic

Looner
01-06-2012, 09:11 PM
Yeah, he tanked from 1-4 in the 2nd set. You're in even bigger denial than your idol if that is possible.

Ash86
01-06-2012, 09:14 PM
Are you perhaps turning to comedy after your idol has failed at tennis?

I meant unlucky as in encountering players like Isner or Tomic early on - dangerous guys who I get the feeling Rafa would be nervous to face too early in the competition. Isner for the serve & Tomic because it's in Australia, he already pushed Rafa last year and think Tomic is due a big win (might be tomorrow with Murray I guess...). He could still get by those players but I think there's a chance of an early exit if he meets a few select players he has issues with - otherwise QF should be fine - hopefully semi at least.

nole_no1
01-06-2012, 09:21 PM
http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/imgs/m1-abrams_2.jpg

Rafa needs to stay fresh, Roger just did it easier by pulling out. Let the Frenchies peak at the wrong time and win Doha. Rafa and Roger peak for slams. Montreal and Cinci Nadal played like shit and still made final and would have beat anyone but Djokovic

Yeah you wish
It's nice too see how you try to encourage yourself though :hug:

samanosuke
01-06-2012, 09:24 PM
it isn't easy to be nadal these days . on every tournament first thing that he needs to pray for is nole and fed in same half, then has to pray fed beating nole, then has to pray for federror. would like to ask him what is the feeling in entering a slam that can be finished even before it starts .

Rafallucci.
01-06-2012, 09:24 PM
:help: Losing to Mugfils of all players.

Get it together Nadal.

Sunset of Age
01-06-2012, 09:31 PM
:help: Losing to Mugfils of all players.

I suggest you watch a re-run. Monfils was very, very impressive indeed. Most definitely not 'Mugfils' out there on court today.
If there was one player 'clowning' out there, I'm sorry to say so, but it was Rafa, in that second set which was in fact on his racket. Yes, Monfils did awesomely manage to turn it around, but Rafa has some bit of himself to blame as well.

Sh*t happens for one's favs in tennis once in a while...

Rafallucci.
01-06-2012, 09:33 PM
I suggest you watch a re-run. Monfils was very, very impressive indeed. Most definitely not 'Mugfils' out there on court today.
If there was one player 'clowning' out there, I'm sorry to say so, but it was Rafa, in that second set which was in fact on his racket. Yes, Monfils did awesomely manage to turn it around, but Rafa has some bit of himself to blame as well.

Sh*t happens for one's favs in tennis once in a while...
I watched the match and Mugfils played as well as he could. The fact that an out of form Nadal was close to breadsticking Peak Monfils says enough, his game and supposed talent is very overrated. I'm not even gonna start on his ridiculious clownsmanship.

Sunset of Age
01-06-2012, 09:35 PM
I'm not even gonna start on his ridiculious clownsmanship.

I barely saw any of that in that match, neither in his match against Troicki.
I think you're being too harsh on Rafa, and fail to give Monfils the credits he deserves, actually.

Linguae^
01-06-2012, 09:38 PM
Rafa being a pure Wozniacki now. :p

HKz
01-06-2012, 09:38 PM
Topspindoc was on quite a trolling roll yesterday, he'd get more respect from me if he shows up soon to eat some tasty crow. I bet he will. :p



I wouldn't say that it means 'nothing', but agree with you that Rafa will certainly do his utmost will to come all-guns-blazing to Australia. Judging on his improvement here in Doha already (yes I think he was playing a lot better than in late 2011 here), I think it's ultimately wrong to rule out his chances for the AO.

Well at this point it can only mean nothing. Of course if Nadal continues to lose the next few months, then one can come back and point that the signs were already evident previously. Either way, as someone pointed out, Nadal did lose to Monfils in 2009 in Doha with practically the same scoreline only to end up winning in Australia. It works both ways, however, one cannot say his chances are better or worse because of this match/tournament. Plenty of times we have seen players do really well before a GS only to fail, while there have been numerous occasions where they were pretty poor prior to a slam only to win the slam title.

Ash86
01-06-2012, 09:44 PM
The warm up tournaments for Nadal are usually just that - warm up. Note his Rogers Cup & Cincinnati runs in 2010 & 2011 - atrocious last year and not that brilliant the year before either - yet a few weeks later he got to the US Open final both times. A best of 5 match is very different for him & having a day off to prepare for the next match and work on issues from the previous match also helps... Could he lose early in Australia? Yes. Will he? Still unlikely - you need a guy to be totally on fire and to keep it up for 2.5 hrs+ - I think his chances at the Aus Open title, though still slim, are looking better this week than they were last. The loss to Monfils doesn't change that.

Here's hoping this version of Monfils sticks around - with him, a fully fit Tsonga & Del Potro we might actually have a very very strong top 8...

samanosuke
01-06-2012, 09:47 PM
i barely watch . i am sleeping of half but want to be here when it comes dark on mtf time with australian morning and hear few priceless thoughts from topspinnurse . maybe i'll be in the mood for one facial dunk though

alter ego
01-06-2012, 10:56 PM
At the end of the match mugboar delivered one of his famous hand shakes.

tZYJWcMaen8

Obviously the result didn't affect him. :haha:

timafi
01-06-2012, 11:11 PM
keep on hitting that backhand Gael and continue to be aggressive and come to the net and you'll be in the top 10 :hatoff:

Topspindoctor
01-07-2012, 12:21 AM
Rafa is now the Wozniacki of the ATP world. Ranked so high. but cannot defeat any decent player :rolleyes:


:rolleyes:

Topspindoctor
01-07-2012, 12:23 AM
i barely watch . i am sleeping of half but want to be here when it comes dark on mtf time with australian morning and hear few priceless thoughts from topspinnurse . maybe i'll be in the mood for one facial dunk though

samanotard with his priceless :bs: again. :bowdown:

allpro
01-07-2012, 12:25 AM
it's only january and nadal already looks like a dead man walking.

paseo
01-07-2012, 12:40 AM
wrong, so wrong my friend . before I had more time for peaking . now have to be ready week in and week out . sometimes even few times per week

:lol:

noddzy
01-07-2012, 01:47 AM
Match highlights - the point won by Monfils to go Ad up at 5*-4 in the second set was :worship:

43G1orcGliA

Guy Haines
01-07-2012, 02:01 AM
Ho hum. Didn't see this one or most of Rafa's matches here. I guess I'd rather watch Kvitova and Dolgopolov lately. Sounds like more of the same, and after people were saying he was improving. Still haven't changed my mind that he likely isn't going to be sharp until Indian Wellls.

The practice sessions and first round at AO will say much. Anytime Nadal has won a hard court major his form in practice and the first match has been razor sharp with a new improvement. I'm not expecting that at the Australian.

Good for Monfils. The top three French players all seem in good form to start the year.

BroTree123
01-07-2012, 02:03 AM
Good for the game

Guy Haines
01-07-2012, 02:07 AM
At the end of the match mugboar delivered one of his famous hand shakes.

tZYJWcMaen8

Obviously the result didn't affect him. :haha:

He actually looks pretty blasť to me but I guess it's in the eye of the beholder. He's not going to pat Monfils on the back and console him for beating him.

No doubt that Nadal loss handshakes now receive at least the intense amount of scrutiny that Federer's used to though.

Mimi
01-07-2012, 02:47 AM
no title for almost one year :facepalm:

got more white hairs for waiting him to win another title :banghead:

Chirag
01-07-2012, 02:49 AM
exatcly this counts for zilch 1 weeks from now

Topspindoctor
01-07-2012, 03:01 AM
no title for almost one year :facepalm:

got more white hairs for waiting him to win another title :banghead:

Don't worry, a loss in 250 event means nothing...he probably pumped himself up for Federer and was quite flat when the former withdrew with "injured back". Nadal is still one of the favorites for AO and I don't expect Monfils to win in a slam best of 5 format, should they meet there.

v-money
01-07-2012, 03:28 AM
I honestly see nothing wrong with this handshake from Nadal. He at least makes eye contact and seems to say something to Monfils. Seems much more friendly than his handshake against Davydenko during Doha, last year.

MIMIC
01-07-2012, 03:31 AM
Watching the match now. Monfils is playing REALLY well. :eek:

dabeast
01-07-2012, 03:32 AM
Gael you da man :yeah: :hatoff: course this loss doesn't count seeing Nadal's injured

Art&Soul
01-07-2012, 03:39 AM
Nadull is done, NID :)

rocketassist
01-07-2012, 03:39 AM
Needs to happen in Melbourne for me to really care

Sunset of Age
01-07-2012, 03:40 AM
I honestly see nothing wrong with this handshake from Nadal. He at least makes eye contact and seems to say something to Monfils. Seems much more friendly than his handshake against Davydenko during Doha, last year.

Yep. Nothing wrong at all.

BTW, please get rid of that nasty. barely readable font, okay? :bigcry: ;)

Watching the match now. Monfils is playing REALLY well. :eek:

Yep he was.

Sri
01-07-2012, 04:40 AM
Nadal didn't tank, but he wasn't giving a hundred per cent either. He's happy to have an extended break prior to AO 12.

Nirjhor
01-07-2012, 06:25 AM
In 2009 Rafa lost to Gael as wel in doha and went on to win AO. Hope this happens again!

Already forgot about Rafa's rest of the season of 2009? ;)

LuCC
01-07-2012, 07:44 AM
Outstanding performance from Monfils. He didn't clown around, what was quite surprising. I liked especially those sick BH's in the end of the match. I think he deserved title here and i hope he will keep this level for final.
As for Rafa, frankly, I see no chance for him to win AO. I know that was tests etc. But this guy is burning out. He's not the same pumped guy he was in 2009, so those who bring 2009 are simply insane. He can't repeat what he did that year and he won't!
Good for him if he reaches SF, but honestly i doubt it.

Ash86
01-07-2012, 07:50 AM
Nadal didn't tank, but he wasn't giving a hundred per cent either. He's happy to have an extended break prior to AO 12.

He definitely was trying to win - his presser was very positive surprisingly - he said Monfils played really really well and that he didn't play the kind of match he should have to have more chances against him. Thinks he should have been more patient but said he'd decided to be more aggressive this year and was going to go for it.

Q. GaŽl took a lot of risks today. Is it the main reason of your loss, you think?

RAFAEL NADAL: No. He take a lot of risk. I take more risk than him. Thatís my feeling.
I didnít play the right way tactically in the first set, in my opinion. I wanted to play more aggressive than usual, playing more inside, donít wait. So just try to go more for the point than usual, and I think thatís because I am trying to do it more than last year.

But to play against him is not the right thing, but I really want to do it. So thatís why I tried, no?
He did well. He played very well. In my opinion, he had fantastic shots with very good backhands, good forehands, his movements was fantastic.

So to play against him, I know that I cannot play like I did in the first set. I need to wait a little more. I need to play a little bit, you know, slower and wait my chance.

Generally Iím happy, no? The second set, I started doing well, doing what I have to do to win a match against him. I donít think the match was bad for me. I didnít play well the end the match. I was a little bit unlucky in a few decisive movements, my opinion. He did better than me. I congratulate him. Heís doing well. Heís playing really well. All the best for tomorrow.

Q. Itís one match, but as we saw new Abu Dhabi, youíre gearing up obviously for Australia, as everyone is. What does this loss do for your preparations for Australia?

RAFAEL NADAL: Nothing. I go to Australia very happy about what I did here. For sure I would love to win tournament, win today, have another match tomorrow.

I am not lying to you, and my feeling is very positive. I think I played great tournament, much better than what I thought. So seriously, the only negative thing of today is to lose. For the rest of the things, I am satisfied.
I played more aggressive than usual during all tournament, including today, even if I know thatís not the right thing maybe to do it. I tried.

I needed to be a little bit more consistent today for moments, but in general, I am doing the things that I have to do to compete against the best players of the world and to try to win at important tournaments.

So I happy with almost everything, seriously. Maybe I may not gonna win Australia, but I have to keep working like this and Iím in the right way to win in the future.

Q. Was it a similar match in 2009 against him?

RAFAEL NADAL: No. 2009 I get injury on my knees here, you know, against him. So I didnít fight that much as I did today. Today I really wanted to win.

I really tried with doing things that I need to improve. I try. Happy about that. Only thing that Iím not happy is I cannot lose two serves in a row in the second set. Thatís the worst part of the match. Thatís the end of the match.

I can lose one break, yes, but I cannot have two breaks in a row. That cannot happen in the future even if I am playing aggressive. I cannot lose two serves, and I played terrible point with a 4-3 break point.

So all those Nadal fans saying he tanked or didn't try do not know the player they are fans of. He said he tried but Monfils was better. He's not devastated because it's a 250 at the end of the day and he's trying to change his game so that won't all come together at once. This is strangely a good loss, if you can have one. The other player played fantastic and even though Nadal has things to work on, he will have got a lot out of the match - not like the Dodig, Mayer etc. losses that were just embarrassing and irritating to him more than anything. Good tournament from Rafa - on to Australia! And looking at Murray's performance today seems like all the pressure & attention will be on Andy & Nole - all good for Fedal. ;)

EddieNero
01-07-2012, 09:01 AM
I just watched the hl, waited for a prick-like handshake and Nadal obviously delivered.

samanosuke
01-07-2012, 09:16 AM
RAFAEL NADAL: No. He take a lot of risk. I take more risk than him. Thatís my feeling.

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

madmax
01-07-2012, 09:18 AM
I just watched the hl, waited for a prick-like handshake and Nadal obviously delivered.

:devil:
You could tell piggy was pissed off to no end by his grimacing...

Ash86
01-07-2012, 09:26 AM
There was nothing wrong with his handshake - Novak's handshakes when he loses where he looks happier than the winner are far stranger & not the norm. No one will be happy when they lose - shaking hands is enough - they don't need to smile too! Nice to know it amuses a few sad people on the internet though. :shrug:

As for saying he took more risks than Gael I think Rafa's wrong - they were both more aggressive than they usually play & Monfils made a lot of winners - but it's his opinion - maybe he thinks he went for more shots that he normally wouldn't have done whereas Monfils went for winners from when in better positions. Either way think his analysis of his game is usually better than the armchair analysts. It must be sad for those who predict his demise at every loss and then he comes right back again - 7 years at the top even though he was predicted to flame out ever since 2005 is pretty good going.

Chase Visa
01-07-2012, 10:33 AM
lol Nadull.

mikkemus23
01-07-2012, 11:08 AM
No HL on youtube? :(
Would be nice for GM if he has matured and will become a contender this year. Good for the game.:cool:

Matt01
01-07-2012, 11:13 AM
Congrats Gael :yeah:

Now please take this title :D

tennis2tennis
01-07-2012, 11:39 AM
always a good thing when Nadal loses -against a Frenchman-
:drool:

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmk62tlwb81qd0dbc.gif
I could never understand the french hatred of Rafa ..he's usually loved by the Swiss, Italians Americans, Brits...etch

Gagsquet
01-07-2012, 12:06 PM
I could never understand the french hatred of Rafa ..he's usually loved by the Swiss, Italians Americans, Brits...etch

Too many RG wins, too many... hatred is a big word though.

Ash86
01-07-2012, 12:06 PM
I could never understand the french hatred of Rafa ..he's usually loved by the Swiss, Italians Americans, Brits...etch

Well the French players seem to like him (won't mention Noah :o) - Monfils, Tsonga, Simon & Gasquet only ever say nice things & they seem to get on. It's mainly the Paris crowd that's the issue - a lot of the Monte Carlo crowd has to be French & they clearly like him... So wouldn't say there's a French hatred of Rafa - more the Parisian crowd have never liked the Spanish-style of tennis & were also annoyed that Roger, their adopted player, kept losing at the French. He's definitely most popular in the UK though - the support for him & Federer at Wimbledon is pretty even & perhaps even more pro-Rafa at times which given Federer's ownership of the tournament for a 5 year period is pretty impressive. Think he can live with London & New York being behind him (& Roger), even if Paris isn't. ;)

Where is Novak most popular? I'm genuinely intrigued... He's had tough luck by getting to the top after Fedal who've already built up their crowd support but which slam is the best for him support wise? I'd probably say Australia. If he gets to the final vs Nadal at the French though I think the crowd would back him which would be kind of deserved to balance out the awful treatment he had in the semi vs Fed this year.

samanosuke
01-07-2012, 12:21 PM
can't find the video of Simon's thoughts about Noah's accusation for doping . Hilarious stuff . Gilles earned few points in my book with it

He said something like " If you are training all day and somebody says you that you can achieve that without training ... " :haha:

Just like heaven
01-07-2012, 12:26 PM
can't find the video of Simon's thoughts about Noah's accusation for doping . Hilarious stuff . Gilles earned few points in my book with it

This is what he said

"when you practise all day long like crazy and someone comes and tells you "what you're doing, well... :rolleyes: it's easier with the "potion magique"" this is... just a pity!"

samanosuke
01-07-2012, 12:32 PM
yeah . that's it :haha: . i saw it few days ago on Eurosport " Rafa confidential " was the title of documentary . It was hilarious to listen uncle's Toni response " Rafa is much cleaner than Noah has ever been " .

All what you need to know about French hate towards Rafa was in it

Action Jackson
01-07-2012, 12:35 PM
Stick to the match, not the other stuff irrelevant.

Just like heaven
01-07-2012, 12:37 PM
Big hypocrite this Noah, considering that Monfils is one of the most athletic, fast and muscular players on tour.

nalbyfan
01-07-2012, 12:48 PM
Spanish clown beaten by French clown...interesting situation in Doha

Mystique
01-07-2012, 12:48 PM
There was nothing wrong with his handshake - Novak's handshakes when he loses where he looks happier than the winner are far stranger & not the norm. No one will be happy when they lose - shaking hands is enough - they don't need to smile too! Nice to know it amuses a few sad people on the internet though. :shrug:


:rolleyes:
I can understand you lobbying Nadal being his fan and why not, I am not his fan but I dont think he is a bad loser either. He isnt as gracious a loser as some people make out of him but as you said, who likes to lose? And Nadal wouldnt have achieved half of what he did if he was ok with losing.
Nadal and Federer are more or less the same type of losers on court, off the court its different where I agree Federer sounds too blatantly sore at times while Rafa produces his well rehearsed stuff in PCs. Dont get me wrong, I think it is alright really. He has an image to keep and he hurts no one through it anyway, rather keeps everyone happy but haters.

But to say Novak's reactions when losing is "strange" is spiteful. He has beena better loser than both Federer and Nadal, by a mile for the best part of his career. Of course things may or may not change now that he has become the hunted man, the top dog.
But on evidence so far, Djokjovic is a very goood loser and there is nothing strange about his on court reactions, which are actually spontaneous as opposed to post match PCs:o

Mjau!
01-07-2012, 12:49 PM
yeah . that's it :haha: . i saw it few days ago on Eurosport " Rafa confidential " was the title of documentary . It was hilarious to listen uncle's Toni response " Rafa is much cleaner than Noah has ever been " .

All what you need to know about French hate towards Rafa was in it

Clean... er? :scratch:

Sombrerero loco
01-07-2012, 12:55 PM
thanks gael :)

Vida
01-07-2012, 01:07 PM
that gif makes me remember some of the slips nadal had last year. in wimbledon and a bad one in rome, just bending all over the place. whirlwind they called it.

fmolinari2005
01-07-2012, 01:17 PM
Clean... er? :scratch:

Oops! Big freudian slip there. Nice catch! ;)

Ash86
01-07-2012, 01:27 PM
:rolleyes:
I can understand you lobbying Nadal being his fan and why not, I am not his fan but I dont think he is a bad loser either. He isnt as gracious a loser as some people make out of him but as you said, who likes to lose? And Nadal wouldnt have achieved half of what he did if he was ok with losing.
Nadal and Federer are more or less the same type of losers on court, off the court its different where I agree Federer sounds too blatantly sore at times while Rafa produces his well rehearsed stuff in PCs. Dont get me wrong, I think it is alright really. He has an image to keep and he hurts no one through it anyway, rather keeps everyone happy but haters.

But to say Novak's reactions when losing is "strange" is spiteful. He has beena better loser than both Federer and Nadal, by a mile for the best part of his career. Of course things may or may not change now that he has become the hunted man, the top dog.
But on evidence so far, Djokjovic is a very goood loser and there is nothing strange about his on court reactions, which are actually spontaneous as opposed to post match PCs:o

I think I phrased it badly - I didn't mean it in a negative way about Novak. He's clearly been the best loser for years but all I was saying is that it is out of the norm i.e. not how most people would react so to expect that from Nadal, Federer etc. is unrealistic. Novak's reaction to his US Open 2010 defeat was pure class but unlike others I don't think Nadal's reaction this year was bad - when you're at that level you should expect yourself to win and be gutted if you lose - the fact that Novak could smile as he lost is amazing but not a slight on the others for not being able to do so. Nadal smiled at Wimbledon 2006 & it's because he didn't think he had a chance & was happy to win a set - he said so in his book & said that it was the wrong attitude to have - he had more belief in 2007 & the loss was harder.

I disagree that Nadal's PCs are rehearsed - they're actually the most honest out there - a bit too honest (apart from the fact that he never thinks he's the favourite and every player is dangerous :rolleyes:) - he doesn't just praise every player after he wins/loses - if he lost because he thought he played badly he'll say so and same for if the other player played unbelievably. It's not easy to admit when the other player played better than you but he's done that - see his presser after the WTF loss to Federer... The humbleness is overstated - he doesn't think he's as good as Federer (Toni really drilled in that Federer love early!) but he does admit he's one of the best ever and that's enough - what else is the guy meant to say?

Overall though it's been discussed before but Nadal's a better winner (praising the opponent; clapping for him when he leaves; "you'll win a slam very soon Andy") & Novak's a better loser. Nadal's more of a diplomat while Novak's the entertainer - both bring something to the table.

Vida
01-07-2012, 01:39 PM
I agree with plenty of whats said above. overall, the hammering could not have happened to a better (nicer) guy than nadal.

lord knows how fed would've reacted in his position. go become a monk on some desolated island probably.

FormerRafaFan
01-07-2012, 07:27 PM
And Rafa's slump continues :haha: One year and counting..

Matt01
01-07-2012, 08:54 PM
And Rafa's slump continues :haha: One year and counting..


What? :lol: