Chennai QF: Almagro d. Sugita 4-6, 7-6(8), 6-4 [Archive] - MensTennisForums.com

Chennai QF: Almagro d. Sugita 4-6, 7-6(8), 6-4

Mongoose
01-06-2012, 04:16 PM
absolutely incredible:worship:

Luinir
01-06-2012, 04:17 PM
Best match of the first week.

Minotaur
01-06-2012, 04:18 PM
Sugita played out of his mind but Almagro was too solid for him

Johnny Groove
01-06-2012, 04:19 PM
Some big balls from both men here, Sugita especially, marone.

Dodig would be proud.

KaiserT
01-06-2012, 04:20 PM
Great match, love Sugita's attitude.

Shame Mugro (one of the worst top 10 players I've ever seen) had to win this, but good fight from him nonetheless.

andrijagajic
01-06-2012, 04:20 PM
What a great match!

Well done to both guys, it was just impossible not to cheer for Sugita today :) At least for me. He has shown his potential, hopefully he can reach top 50 by the end of this year...

Shirogane
01-06-2012, 04:21 PM
Great handshake at the net... Another gem to download and seed for days, that match. :worship:

Chirag
01-06-2012, 04:21 PM
Sugita hopefully does well .He won me over today

JurajCrane
01-06-2012, 04:22 PM
Probably the best match since US Open final 2011. Now, in comparison to this, Nadal Monfils match up looks like Futures event. :D

misty1
01-06-2012, 04:25 PM
great match. I thought almagro was stinking it up but then i saw that both men were playing some really good stuff. Yuichi played well above his rank

motorhead
01-06-2012, 04:30 PM
Best match of the first week.

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I hope highlights will be availbale, the point of 2-0 for Almagro in the tie break was just incredible. and the way he saved the second MP with that shot on the line.

BodyServe
01-06-2012, 04:34 PM
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I hope highlights will be availbale, the point of 2-0 for Almagro in the tie break was just incredible. and the way he saved the second MP with that shot on the line.

That was very lucky shot, the one before that one, one of those matches where the wrong player won.

Snowwy
01-06-2012, 04:38 PM
That was very lucky shot, the one before that one, one of those matches where the wrong player won.

You mean, the player that you are not a fan of won, right?

motorhead
01-06-2012, 04:41 PM
You mean, the player that you are not a fan of won, right?

:haha:

Nixer
01-06-2012, 04:41 PM
wow, judging by the livescore, I thought it was usual Nico mugathon, but reading the replies here.. is there anywhere I can see the video or at least highlights?

chewy
01-06-2012, 04:43 PM
Iím excited for Sugita, hope he can achieve more and more in 2012 because he has potential.
He mustíve worked very hard in the off season, that jumping overhead smash was amazing.
The height he got on the jump from his 5í8Ē frame is tremendous.
After he lost the 2nd set with match point(s?), and trailed 1-5 in the final set I thought it was routine victory for Almagro, but great come back winning 3 games straight even though he lost in the end.

I love his fight, his attitude (so gracious at the net after a tough loss), officially my 2nd favourite Japanese player after Kei.

And well done to Almagro for making it an incredible match, he was also showing respect for his opponent afterwards.

The only thing I would like to see from Sugita might be a bit more variety, maybe a drop shot at one of the bps instead of all the work at the baseline but thatís where heís comfortable and produced many great shots today.

BodyServe
01-06-2012, 04:58 PM
You mean, the player that you are not a fan of won, right?

:haha:

Well, at least i will have the pleasure to see him trying to return Raonic's serves :P

Sonja1989
01-06-2012, 05:04 PM
:lol: :lol: I didn't enjoy this match at all, I was sure Nico loses it especially in the second set of course, but the end of third one was a catastrophe as well..

I feel sorry for this Japan guy, all the best for him. :hug:

Deathless Mortal
01-06-2012, 05:09 PM
What a great match!

Well done to both guys, it was just impossible not to cheer for Sugita today :) At least for me. He has shown his potential, hopefully he can reach top 50 by the end of this year...

His first goal should be to break in the top 200 ;)

Anyway, really a very entertaining match with a lot of good points. Sugita's forehand is massive.
Almagro finally showed some heart and will to turn things around when he saved those match points, I didn't expect that from him.
Still, I hope Raonic beats him and eventually wins the title. :)

ossie
01-06-2012, 05:09 PM
very impressive performance by sugita, at 23 he is not the youngest anymore but if he develops himself i could see him rise up in the rankings.

stripes
01-06-2012, 05:35 PM
I had never seen sugita play really enjoyed it thought almagro was average played better in the tiebreak though.

HKz
01-06-2012, 07:31 PM
I’m excited for Sugita, hope he can achieve more and more in 2012 because he has potential.
He must’ve worked very hard in the off season, that jumping overhead smash was amazing.
The height he got on the jump from his 5’8” frame is tremendous.
After he lost the 2nd set with match point(s?), and trailed 1-5 in the final set I thought it was routine victory for Almagro, but great come back winning 3 games straight even though he lost in the end.

I love his fight, his attitude (so gracious at the net after a tough loss), officially my 2nd favourite Japanese player after Kei.

And well done to Almagro for making it an incredible match, he was also showing respect for his opponent afterwards.

The only thing I would like to see from Sugita might be a bit more variety, maybe a drop shot at one of the bps instead of all the work at the baseline but that’s where he’s comfortable and produced many great shots today.

I think that is the problem though for many Japanese sportsmen. Being half-Japanese myself, I have several friends back in Japan who are playing individual sports like tennis and golf professionally, but they are just a bit too weak mentally and too nice sometimes to get the job done despite the hours of dedication and talent that they possess. Japanese are much better with team sports which obviously comes from their culture, but in terms of individual sports, they have quite a ways to go IMO.

His first goal should be to break in the top 200 ;)

Anyway, really a very entertaining match with a lot of good points. Sugita's forehand is massive.
Almagro finally showed some heart and will to turn things around when he saved those match points, I didn't expect that from him.
Still, I hope Raonic beats him and eventually wins the title. :)

According to his bio, he was ranked 162 last year.

Jimnik
01-06-2012, 07:35 PM
Sugita :sad:

Keep up the persistence.

Deathless Mortal
01-06-2012, 07:38 PM
According to his bio, he was ranked 162 last year.

Well ok, but he's currently outside of top 200 so he should make plans first to get back there before setting his goals to top50 :)

Luinir
01-07-2012, 02:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LigBAdwc01M

Weak highlights. That second set tiebreak had some great points but there are just a few points. Anyway, handshake at the net is very unusual from Sugita.

Kiedis
01-07-2012, 02:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LigBAdwc01M

Weak highlights. That second set tiebreak had some great points but there are just a few points. Anyway, handshake at the net is very unusual from Sugita.

He kiss Nico's hand :lol:

Well, a win is a win for Nico especially at this point of the season

Mae
01-07-2012, 04:22 AM
Vamos Nico :woohoo:

james82
01-07-2012, 04:26 AM
to bad sugita,so close :(

Kolya
01-07-2012, 06:37 AM
Who is this Sugita? lol.

Got to find some highlights of this match.

chewy
01-07-2012, 09:10 PM
I think that is the problem though for many Japanese sportsmen. Being half-Japanese myself, I have several friends back in Japan who are playing individual sports like tennis and golf professionally, but they are just a bit too weak mentally and too nice sometimes to get the job done despite the hours of dedication and talent that they possess. Japanese are much better with team sports which obviously comes from their culture, but in terms of individual sports, they have quite a ways to go IMO.

According to his bio, he was ranked 162 last year.

I don’t have any Japanese friends but I’ve heard about this mentality before.
Although I found it hard to grasp the concept, because another perception I have of Japanese in general is their ability to work very well on their own with little to no support which is a quality I really admire.
Are they being too nice or mentally weak in pursue of success as an individual(when not in a team environment) or is it a mind-set they carry during a match?
And I wonder how much effect this has on Kei who in part grew up in western culture.

Maybe some of them do lack that ‘killer instinct’ to get over the finish line.
But I can’t read a player just by watching matches since I don’t know them on a personal level.
I thought Sugita got a good balance though, he showed determination and fight on court without an offensive attitude and then the calm and respect once it was over(he might be burning inside but that’s human nature)

HKz
01-07-2012, 10:10 PM
I donít have any Japanese friends but Iíve heard about this mentality before.
Although I found it hard to grasp the concept, because another perception I have of Japanese in general is their ability to work very well on their own with little to no support which is a quality I really admire.
Are they being too nice or mentally weak in pursue of success as an individual(when not in a team environment) or is it a mind-set they carry during a match?
And I wonder how much effect this has on Kei who in part grew up in western culture.

Maybe some of them do lack that Ďkiller instinctí to get over the finish line.
But I canít read a player just by watching matches since I donít know them on a personal level.
I thought Sugita got a good balance though, he showed determination and fight on court without an offensive attitude and then the calm and respect once it was over(he might be burning inside but thatís human nature)

Well it isn't to say Japanese are not good individually as many are great individually in many things since Japanese do take pride in learning something and becoming the best at it as they can be. However, when it comes to things from a mental point of view, I think many Japanese people always have the mindset that whenever they do something, it is for the benefit of some team, which is I think the wrong mentality for such a mental sport like tennis where you really need to have the mindset of yourself. Sugita fought hard and well, even being down match point, but in all reality he has shown in general the problem with Japanese sportspeople competing in individual sports. Actually this transcends Japan, and can actually be applied to Asian sports people in general. I mean on the men's side, we literally have only Michael Chang, and he was born and raised in America, so I don't think he can count. While Kei did grow up quite a bit in America, I think he does fit this stereotype as sometimes I don't see him pour enough into a match emotionally. We all know how Federer does show his frustration here and there despite being one of the calmer players on the tour. Either way, it is just something embedded in the culture, which can be seen through Japan's two most popular sports - football and baseball. However, things have changed over the past several decades with globalization playing its part as individualism is slowly become less of a stigma among the Japanese. No matter the way you look at it though, they'll certainly never be as individualistic as Western cultures.

chewy
01-08-2012, 01:09 AM
Thanks for trying to explain it further; I’m hoping Kei will be an exception.
For the Japanese players, I guess their team/entourage might be able to help strengthen their mentality.
Although Srichaphan also had an accomplished career and I think he was raised in Asia.

You mentioned you’re half Japanese, do you mind sharing what’s your other race/ethnicity?
Your username keep reminding me of the abbreviation for the city where I was born but I know it’s probably not what it stands for.

HKz
01-08-2012, 01:56 AM
Thanks for trying to explain it further; Iím hoping Kei will be an exception.
For the Japanese players, I guess their team/entourage might be able to help strengthen their mentality.
Although Srichaphan also had an accomplished career and I think he was raised in Asia.

You mentioned youíre half Japanese, do you mind sharing whatís your other race/ethnicity?
Your username keep reminding me of the abbreviation for the city where I was born but I know itís probably not what it stands for.

I'm also half Palestinian, although my father was raised in Syria and I was born in the US. I chose HKz because they are a few letters in my first of Hakeem and last name :p

chewy
01-08-2012, 03:47 AM
I think it would be great to experience different cultural influences from family.
Again thanks for sharing, cheers mate ;)

BroTree123
01-08-2012, 04:47 AM
Great match. Incredible sportsmanship at the end.