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Is golf a sport?

2003
12-14-2011, 09:31 AM
Yes or no?

Why do you think so?

Why do you think it isnt?

Whos the burden of proof on here?

This could be a fantastic discusion if we keep it civil :worship:

Remember, this isnt meant to demean the game of golf. Not at all.

For example, my favourite game in the world is 8 ball. But it's not a sport. It doesnt take anything away from it, its more for classification purposes than anything else.

Of course, that doesnt mean golf isnt, Im just saying. :worship:

156mphserve
12-14-2011, 09:37 AM
yes

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Time Violation
12-14-2011, 09:56 AM
Nope.

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Sophocles
12-14-2011, 09:59 AM
No. It's a game.

That isn't to take anything away from it. Games are some of the best things in the world - chess, backgammon, bridge, cribbage, go, Trivial Pursuit, doctors & nurses....

jonathancrane
12-14-2011, 10:01 AM
Yes, but it's a joke sport like F1

ExcaliburII
12-14-2011, 10:02 AM
lol of course yes

156mphserve
12-14-2011, 10:05 AM
No. It's a game.

That isn't to take anything away from it. Games are some of the best things in the world - chess, backgammon, bridge, cribbage, go, Trivial Pursuit, doctors & nurses....

golf takes physical ability

games take mental ability or luck

arm
12-14-2011, 10:08 AM
How about chess? Golf seems very physically demanding when compared to chess no? :lol: And some people consider chess a sport. :tape:

Time Violation
12-14-2011, 10:10 AM
golf takes physical ability

If a 45-50 year old guys can successfully compete on top level, it's not much of a physical ability.

Sophocles
12-14-2011, 10:12 AM
golf takes physical ability

games take mental ability or luck

Jenga?

Sophocles
12-14-2011, 10:12 AM
golf takes physical ability

games take mental ability or luck

Darts? Snooker? Shove ha'penny? Hopscotch?

Sophocles
12-14-2011, 10:13 AM
If a 45-50 year old guys can successfully compete on top level, it's not much of a physical ability.

This.

Sorry but something you can do standing around in a jumper is not a sport.

Unless it's cricket of course.

arm
12-14-2011, 10:15 AM
How about fishing, then?

I don't understand how archery, javelin throw, etc... are more of a sport than golf. :shrug: and these are olympic sports..

Guest12315544
12-14-2011, 10:16 AM
It has been said that golf is a great way to ruin a perfectly good walk and I totally agree!

Sophocles
12-14-2011, 10:28 AM
How about fishing, then?

I don't understand how archery, javelin throw, etc... are more of a sport than golf. :shrug: and these are olympic sports..

Athleticism is an essential element in any sport. Arguably, fishing & shooting don't count whereas fox-hunting & bull-fighting do. Javelin requires tremendous athleticism & archery certainly requires more than golf, but in general, just because something is an Olympic discipline, doesn't mean it's a sport, even though it may take a great deal of skill.

Guest12315544
12-14-2011, 10:30 AM
In the U.S. Poker has been on our sports channels for years :ras: How in the world can poker be considered a sport????????

Jimnik
12-14-2011, 10:34 AM
Only if snooker, darts and chess are sports.

arm
12-14-2011, 10:36 AM
Athleticism is an essential element in any sport. Arguably, fishing & shooting don't count whereas fox-hunting & bull-fighting do. Javelin requires tremendous athleticism & archery certainly requires more than golf, but in general, just because something is an Olympic discipline, doesn't mean it's a sport, even though it may take a great deal of skill.

I agree about the status of olympic sport not meaning that much. Obviously, regarding this issue there is not such thing as an objective answer. :shrug: I consider it a sport, but at the same time I do understand the arguments of those who don't.

Sophocles
12-14-2011, 10:39 AM
I agree about the status of olympic sport not meaning that much. Obviously, regarding this issue there is not such thing as an objective answer. :shrug: I consider it a sport, but at the same time I do understand the arguments of those who doesn't.

Fair enough. But look at a javelin contestant after he's made a throw, & then look at a golfer after teeing off. One of them is screaming with pain & effort with all his veins bulging, the other is calmly gazing into the distance.

156mphserve
12-14-2011, 10:40 AM
How about chess? Golf seems very physically demanding when compared to chess no? :lol: And some people consider chess a sport. :tape:


Chess definately isn't, you have to move a piece from 1 spot to another based on strategy, anyone can do, and you don't need great reflexes, or hand eye coordination, or stamina, etc.

Jenga?

:lol:I would say no, based on the fact you sit don't move a lot while playing, though it does require a steady hand, and good hand eye.

Darts? Snooker? Shove ha'penny? Hopscotch?

these are boarderline, I would put them in the sport catagory, but just barely

How about fishing, then?

I don't understand how archery, javelin throw, etc... are more of a sport than golf. :shrug: and these are olympic sports..

Fish can be a sport if it's in some sort of competition I would think so

In the U.S. Poker has been on our sports channels for years :ras: How in the world can poker be considered a sport????????

Poker isn't a sport, and yes I agree shouldn't be on sports channels

There's plenty of grey area between sport and game, and everyone will never agree when something is in this grey area, but I definately think Golf is a sport, and things like chess, and poker aren't

Time Violation
12-14-2011, 10:42 AM
Fair enough. But look at a javelin contestant after he's made a throw, & then look at a golfer after teeing off. One of them is screaming with pain & effort with all his veins bulging, the other is calmly gazing into the distance.

http://www.weightlosssurgerychannel.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/john-daly-weight-loss-surgery.jpg

Chase Visa
12-14-2011, 10:48 AM
Given what passes for a sport these days, I dunno why it isn't.

Lopez
12-14-2011, 10:48 AM
For a the casual person who doesn't exercise nearly as much as top athletes, it's comparable to jogging I'd say, only more fun. That is of course if you walk the whole round. Carrying the bag on your back is also a plus, which I almost always do.

However, for a pro athlete it isn't that tough. I doubt Nadal even breaks much of a sweat when he plays.

The answer to this question depends solely on the definition of sport. I'd say competitiveness is one, also a clear set of rules that is accepted by the hobbbyists. How physical should it be then?

I'd say that golf is more a sport than snooker or darts, a bit less than baseball. It's very vague.

Henry Chinaski
12-14-2011, 10:54 AM
Golf qualifies as a sport because of the physical techniques involved. (Though I would never admit this with too many golf fans around)

There are no technical requirements to play chess. Stephen Hawking or a stationery computer can kick your ass at chess so it's a really, really shitty comparison.

And yes, darts and snooker meet my definition and are both excellent sports.

finishingmove
12-14-2011, 11:04 AM
it's a sport for fat posh wankers

or maybe it's a game for fat posh wankers

who cares, really?

Hewitt =Legend
12-14-2011, 11:15 AM
If you want to take a long walk, take a long walk. If you want to hit things with sticks, hit things with sticks. But do not combine the two and put the results on television under the label "sport".

Sophocles
12-14-2011, 11:29 AM
Golf qualifies as a sport because of the physical techniques involved. (Though I would never admit this with too many golf fans around)

There are no technical requirements to play chess. Stephen Hawking or a stationery computer can kick your ass at chess so it's a really, really shitty comparison.

And yes, darts and snooker meet my definition and are both excellent sports.

What about sex?

tripwires
12-14-2011, 12:12 PM
http://www.weightlosssurgerychannel.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/john-daly-weight-loss-surgery.jpg

:haha: This picture says it all, no? I agree with Sophocles here. Golf is a joke of a sport. How can a game qualify as a sport if fitness is not a pre-requisite?

Archery, to me, is not a sport. At all. When I'm at the tennis courts on Saturday mornings I see people in Archery walking past me carrying their bows (or whatever) and they're these scrawny geeky things. The flip side of fat golfers. Still not athletes.

Snooker/darts/poker/fishing = not sports. Then again, I saw the spelling bee competition on ESPN once and no one would argue that the spelling bee is a sport, so I guess just because something is broadcast on a sports channel, doesn't mean it's a sport.

asmazif
12-14-2011, 12:15 PM
yes, I believe it is.

156mphserve
12-14-2011, 12:43 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golf

first 8 words

and wikipedia is always right :sarcasm:

Har-Tru
12-14-2011, 12:49 PM
Of course it is.

Any regulated game that requires physical ability is a sport.

Hence golf, darts and snooker are sports, while chess or poker aren't (no physical ability required). Bullfighting is the opposite case, it requires physical ability but it isn't regulated. Games like Jenga are usually not sufficiently regulated to be considered sports, and most of them self-define as games, but I don't see why they couldn't qualify.

buddyholly
12-14-2011, 01:12 PM
In the U.S. Poker has been on our sports channels for years :ras: How in the world can poker be considered a sport????????

ESPN is ''Entertainment and Sports Programming Network''

There is American Football on ESPN. You may as well ask how in the world can American Football be considered an entertainment?

bokehlicious
12-14-2011, 01:14 PM
In the U.S. Poker has been on our sports channels for years :ras: How in the world can poker be considered a sport????????

In order to win the WSOP main event you have to play 8 days in a row for some 14 hours a day. Surely marathonians look pale in comparison.

156mphserve
12-14-2011, 01:16 PM
ESPN is ''Entertainment and Sports Programming Network''

There is American Football on ESPN. You may as well ask how in the world can American Football be considered an entertainment?

it gets shown on sportsnet and TSN(the sports network) in canada too

I laugh at people who call poker a sport:lol:

bokehlicious
12-14-2011, 01:20 PM
Poker played at a high level is more demanding than most sports.

156mphserve
12-14-2011, 01:23 PM
yes, mentality demanding, so it's a game

Sophocles
12-14-2011, 01:38 PM
Of course it is.

Any regulated game that requires physical ability is a sport.

So if somebody held a tournament for computer-game players, that would be a sport? (Physical ability is required - dexterity, reflexes, etc.)

Har-Tru
12-14-2011, 01:45 PM
So if somebody held a tournament for computer-game players, that would be a sport? (Physical ability is required - dexterity, reflexes, etc.)

I meant locomotive physical ability, I should have specified.

Sophocles
12-14-2011, 01:47 PM
I meant locomotive physical ability, I should have specified.

And darts counts?

Har-Tru
12-14-2011, 01:49 PM
And darts counts?

Yes. And no, computer games don't. Needless to say, you can draw your line above mine and say darts don't demand enough locomotive physical ability.

Certinfy
12-14-2011, 01:49 PM
Yes.

Topspindoctor
12-15-2011, 12:23 AM
It's as much of a "sport" as pro wrestling.

Pirata.
12-15-2011, 12:31 AM
I don't understand how archery, javelin throw, etc... are more of a sport than golf. :shrug: and these are olympic sports..

Because these were military disciplines in ancient times that usually were accomplished by the best physical specimins. It took a lot of athleticism to throw a discus or javelin properly, as well to shoot a bow and arrow in combat. Nowadays, they are less exciting, but this is why they are part of the Olympic games.

selyoink
12-15-2011, 12:36 AM
Golf is a sport but golfers aren't necessarily athletes.

ExcaliburII
12-15-2011, 12:50 AM
I am a big poker fan, and play a lot, and I cansay that it would be mentally impossible for me to win wsop, because of how demanding it is, yes. I can barely keep mentally in play for more than 4, 5 hours in a row once a week. Let alone 12 hours a day for 8 days in a row. But it also doesnt have much more of a sport than that.


But golf has everything, its probably the most demanding sports of all, not physically, but the other aspects cover this, by far. Anyone who has played golf at high level knows what i am talking about. Toughest sport to be good at

leng jai
12-15-2011, 01:00 AM
Is Popcon a sport? ACC?

Snowwy
12-15-2011, 01:11 AM
I am a big poker fan, and play a lot, and I cansay that it would be mentally impossible for me to win wsop, because of how demanding it is, yes. I can barely keep mentally in play for more than 4, 5 hours in a row once a week. Let alone 12 hours a day for 8 days in a row. But it also doesnt have much more of a sport than that.


But golf has everything, its probably the most demanding sports of all, not physically, but the other aspects cover this, by far. Anyone who has played golf at high level knows what i am talking about. Toughest sport to be good at

Disagree, although it is very difficult, you are standing still on every shot, which I feel lowers the difficulty slightly. A sport like tennis even has the same degree of difficulty as golf on each shot, a similar mental snapshot, but it includes movement.

Kat_YYZ
12-15-2011, 01:12 AM
Golf is a sport but golfers aren't necessarily athletes.

one could say the same for baseball players
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ig0GYuDNUZ8/SUhsZRDXDXI/AAAAAAAABA8/P3xxY8Xzuns/s400/SB-Sabathia-R.jpg

ExcaliburII
12-15-2011, 01:14 AM
Of course not. Have you ever tried playing golf at a semi competitive level? have you ever even tried playing golf? Despite having a still shot, the golf shots needs so much more precission its not even comparable.
I compete high level of golf, and used to compete in tennis, and i can tell you golf is way more tough.

leng jai
12-15-2011, 01:28 AM
Of course not. Have you ever tried playing golf at a semi competitive level? have you ever even tried playing golf? Despite having a still shot, the golf shots needs so much more precission its not even comparable.
I compete high level of golf, and used to compete in tennis, and i can tell you golf is way more tough.

We should ask Scott Draper.

I really doubt Golf is tougher than tennis. In Golf you are complete control of every shot. Your opponent can't physically do anything to you.

ExcaliburII
12-15-2011, 01:33 AM
or yevgeny kafelnikov.

i love when people who never played golf think its easy. Its the most mentally demanding sport, by far. In no sport you have so much time to be alone by yourself, this time, against what eveyrone thinks is against the golfer. Would be much easier to play one shot after the other with no delay at all

Henry Chinaski
12-15-2011, 01:38 AM
Darts must be mentally toughest sport.

At least in other individual sports crowds are respectful. In Darts you have a thousand drunk maniacs screaming abuse while you try to hit a miniscule target

BigJohn
12-15-2011, 01:43 AM
No. It's a game.



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ExcaliburII
12-15-2011, 02:00 AM
ive competed in professional tournaments of 4 different sports, tennis, golf, poker and rock,paper or scissors. Laugh at it, but its a sport. And i won the RPS tournament.

Golf miles ahead of all

tripwires
12-15-2011, 02:03 AM
ive competed in professional tournaments of 4 different sports, tennis, golf, poker and rock,paper or scissors. Laugh at it, but its a sport. And i won the RPS tournament.

Golf miles ahead of all

This conclusion is somehow unsurprising.

selyoink
12-15-2011, 02:11 AM
one could say the same for baseball players
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ig0GYuDNUZ8/SUhsZRDXDXI/AAAAAAAABA8/P3xxY8Xzuns/s400/SB-Sabathia-R.jpg

And I am one of those people.

ExcaliburII
12-15-2011, 02:12 AM
ive written an essay about rps once. its pure strategy. people who havent played it are the ones who think its pure luck.
http://www.worldrps.com/

people who have played against me live, can confirm its no luck. I think i am unbeaten against mtf users. Maybe 23-0 in best of 7 matches or so

Snowwy
12-15-2011, 02:19 AM
or yevgeny kafelnikov.

i love when people who never played golf think its easy. Its the most mentally demanding sport, by far. In no sport you have so much time to be alone by yourself, this time, against what eveyrone thinks is against the golfer. Would be much easier to play one shot after the other with no delay at all

I do enjoy how your only argument is to assume none of us have ever played golf. :wavey:

ExcaliburII
12-15-2011, 02:23 AM
whats your handicap? i guess 20ish? Its a complete different sport if you play to break 90´s that if you play to break par.

Ibracadabra
12-15-2011, 02:27 AM
Lets get one thing straight, snooker is more of a sport than darts.

Golf isn't a sport in the physical sense, that being said, having two legs is definitely an advantage.

Sophocles
12-15-2011, 10:00 AM
Nobody's denying that golf is extremely hard. So is balancing 7 golf balls on top of each other. In fact that is so hard it has been done only once in the whole of human history. I don't think it's a sport though.

Gagsquet
12-15-2011, 10:04 AM
It's definitely a sport. Snooker and darts are not. But the fact these sports are not popular in France biases my opinion of course.

arm
12-15-2011, 12:00 PM
Because these were military disciplines in ancient times that usually were accomplished by the best physical specimins. It took a lot of athleticism to throw a discus or javelin properly, as well to shoot a bow and arrow in combat. Nowadays, they are less exciting, but this is why they are part of the Olympic games.

But i was not questioning the fact that it an olympic sport. ;) I just look at it, and then look at golf.... and well, in my very own biased opinion gold looks more of a sport than that. :shrug:


And how about cheerleading? Any thoughts? Is it a sport?

tripwires
12-15-2011, 01:50 PM
But i was not questioning the fact that it an olympic sport. ;) I just look at it, and then look at golf.... and well, in my very own biased opinion gold looks more of a sport than that. :shrug:


And how about cheerleading? Any thoughts? Is it a sport?

Yes. ;)

Nole Rules
12-15-2011, 02:32 PM
Darts must be mentally toughest sport.

At least in other individual sports crowds are respectful. In Darts you have a thousand drunk maniacs screaming abuse while you try to hit a miniscule target

True.:o

2003
02-02-2013, 06:53 AM
No way is golf a sport, Tiger got more exercise banging his ladies than playing any golf match..

nolesfan2011
02-04-2013, 03:28 PM
Yes, it involves technical skill and strategic thinking along with some adeptness in terms of physical movement of the body (torque, shoulder turn etc.). It isn't the most physically demanding but its a sport for sure.

motorhead
02-04-2013, 05:04 PM
what do you guys think about darts?

The Prince
02-04-2013, 05:19 PM
As you all have included chess in this debate in addition to golf, let me put a few if my own thoughts forward.

I happen to play and compete in both 'sports'. Chess at a very high level, and golf at a 'learner' level (handicap of twenty).

So let's start with golf as this is the main topic. I certainly believe it's a sport. There's a common misconception that there's no physical elements involved to playing it, but I would say its quite the opposite. If anyone actually bothers to play the sport, I'm sure they'd soon find out that going through even nine holes is a physically demanding task, let alone a full eighteen holes. Not only the strength and control needed to hit the ball in to the desired location, also the stamina needed. There's an overlap between the mental attributes and the physical counterparts. Three hours of concentrating can take it out of you, so it's essential to possess a good level of stamina.

Chess isn't a sport, but it's still the most competitive activity that I know of, and this aspect *of it is under-appreciated. I think together with golf, it is the most mentally challenging game or sport, so anyone who is successful in either deserves far more respect than being labelled a fat bastard.

Time Violation
02-04-2013, 07:25 PM
I happen to play and compete in both 'sports'. Chess at a very high level

How high? Grandmaster? :)

Mjau!
02-05-2013, 01:37 PM
Darts must be mentally toughest sport.

At least in other individual sports crowds are respectful. In Darts you have a thousand drunk maniacs screaming abuse while you try to hit a miniscule target

And you have to do maths!

BauerAlmeida
02-05-2013, 01:50 PM
Golf is a sport. No doubt about it.

What I don't know is how chess is considered a sport. Checkers or battleship should be a sport too then.

The Prince
02-06-2013, 03:49 PM
How high? Grandmaster? :)

I detect sarcasm… ;)

When I say 'high', it's still nothing more than a hobby thay I'm very passionate about. There are no professional aspirations, but that doesn't stop me competing in lots of local tournaments while I'm still young.

Time Violation
02-06-2013, 04:36 PM
Nope, really not. I used to compete when I was around 8-9 years old (was around 3rd category level then), and had to stop not long after that, was always feeling sorry a bit I couldn't go all the way :)

2003
02-06-2013, 10:54 PM
What do you guys think about 8 ball?

Corey Feldman
02-07-2013, 04:44 PM
does it even f'en matter ??

its awesome to play and watch

Goldenoldie
02-07-2013, 05:55 PM
Golf is a sport. I injured my back trying to learn to play it

Noleta
02-09-2013, 07:59 PM
No way.

GOATsol
02-09-2013, 09:15 PM
of course not it requires no fitness

Corey Feldman
02-09-2013, 09:22 PM
ignoramus

walking 7000 yards six days a week in brutal heat

BroTree123
02-09-2013, 11:32 PM
Yes because it involves doing something.

Naudio Spanlatine
02-10-2013, 01:26 AM
Golf is like chess. Its not really a physical sport, its more mental.

Corey Feldman
02-10-2013, 06:49 PM
its dangerous too

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The Prince
02-10-2013, 09:12 PM
So there nothing physical about driving a ball 350 yards down a fairway? :confused:

News to me. :lol:

2003
09-10-2013, 11:49 PM
Golf is a sport. I injured my back trying to learn to play it

Golf is really tough on the joints, my back doesn't let me play it.

But I still think its a hobby. I mean anything you can wear long trousers and dress/polo shirts, have a massive gut and/or chew gum and win majors past 40 years of age can't really be classified a sport.

Collective
09-13-2013, 01:52 PM
Yes, but it's a joke sport like F1

F1 drivers tend to be super fit. Try a couple of laps in one and you'll feel like your head is falling off.

Anyway, to the thread's point. No, it's not a sport. It's a game, like bowling or darts or chess or go or poker. Nothing bad with that.

latso
09-13-2013, 04:01 PM
ofc it's a sport and only one who's never held a driver in his hands could say it isn't

buddyholly
09-13-2013, 07:21 PM
Golf is like chess. Its not really a physical sport, its more mental.

Do chess players spend hours on the practice board, developing the physical skill of moving a chess piece from one square to another?

Do golf players mentally decide to where they would like to move the ball, and then carry it there in one hand and set it down?

redshift36188
09-13-2013, 10:00 PM
sport (spôrt, sprt)
n.
1.
a. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.

It falls under the definiton of sport, and therefore it is a sport.


buddyholly example makes it clear that it is indeed a sport.