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Why do the mods take so much crap on here?

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12-05-2011, 09:38 AM
It seems people are basically allowed to freely slag off the mods in open discussion and more or less get away with it.

If someones got an issue or grievance to take up, sure do it in the PM or a dedicated section. But I think anyone who deliberately slags off a Mod should get one stern warning, and then a ban.

Now im far from perfect, ive received more than a couple of bans in my MTF career, mostly for forum disruption. But i've never ever had a go at a Moderator. They should be off limits. We all guests here, and the Moderators have a job to do.

Orka_n
12-05-2011, 10:27 AM
Nonsense, we should be able to share our thoughts on the moderation openly.

kinski76
12-05-2011, 11:18 AM
I take a diametrically opposite view. The mods should be like a special ops unit, i.e. only taking direct action whenever things are in danger of getting radically out of hand. The rest of the time they should stay back and let events unfold without interfering. Whenever they partake in discussions, they should be treated no differently than other posters.

But i've never ever had a go at a Moderator. They should be off limits. Frightening thought. Afaik these are ordinary people who have volunteered for their positions, not Morally Superior Beings who had them bestowed by Divine providence and whom we should hold to a higher standard. They aren't, and shouldn't be, exempt from criticism. Furthermore, online moderators should never be given the license to act as Internet Police (although some are doing it, nonetheless).

JolánGagó
12-05-2011, 11:30 AM
I take a diametrically opposite view. The mods should be like a special ops unit, i.e. only taking direct action whenever things are in danger of getting radically out of hand. The rest of the time they should stay back and let events unfold without interfering. Whenever they partake in discussions, they should be treated no differently than other posters.

Frightening thought. Afaik these are ordinary people who have volunteered for their positions, not Morally Superior Beings who had them bestowed by Divine providence and whom we should hold to a higher standard. They aren't, and shouldn't be, exempt from criticism. Furthermore, online moderators should never be given the license to act as Internet Police (although some are doing it, nonetheless).


Amen.

jmf07
12-05-2011, 11:38 AM
It seems people are basically allowed to freely slag off the mods in open discussion and more or less get away with it.

If someones got an issue or grievance to take up, sure do it in the PM or a dedicated section. But I think anyone who deliberately slags off a Mod should get one stern warning, and then a ban.

Now im far from perfect, ive received more than a couple of bans in my MTF career, mostly for forum disruption. But i've never ever had a go at a Moderator. They should be off limits. We all guests here, and the Moderators have a job to do.

Hear hear. It has gotten out of hand now. Too many threads are descending into mod bashathons nowadays. Sure there might be a couple of questionable decisions but discuss it in private or at least post it in the appropriate forum. If you do not like the way the mods go about their business then go post on another forum.

habibko
12-05-2011, 11:58 AM
I take a diametrically opposite view. The mods should be like a special ops unit, i.e. only taking direct action whenever things are in danger of getting radically out of hand. The rest of the time they should stay back and let events unfold without interfering. Whenever they partake in discussions, they should be treated no differently than other posters.

Frightening thought. Afaik these are ordinary people who have volunteered for their positions, not Morally Superior Beings who had them bestowed by Divine providence and whom we should hold to a higher standard. They aren't, and shouldn't be, exempt from criticism. Furthermore, online moderators should never be given the license to act as Internet Police (although some are doing it, nonetheless).

agreed

or at least they should only be protected as much as normal posters, "mod bashing" should never be the sole reason for a ban

scoobs
12-05-2011, 11:59 AM
We're looking for applications for moderators at the moment.

See here for more details: http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?p=11548636

samanosuke
12-05-2011, 12:26 PM
don't agree with OP . If I am a mod I would like to hear other side of the story about ban issues, or would like to hear reasonable suggestions or proposals . Sure not rude and offensive bashing, but a good opinion has to be always welcomed

alter ego
12-05-2011, 12:34 PM
We're looking for applications for moderators at the moment.

See here for more details: http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?p=11548636

Just go to nadull's forum an peek a fan girl from there, like you always do.:o

Time Violation
12-05-2011, 12:36 PM
don't agree with OP . If I am a mod I would like to hear other side of the story about ban issues, or would like to hear reasonable suggestions or proposals . Sure not rude and offensive bashing, but a good opinion has to be always welcomed

Usually that isn't going to work. Just look at the ACC from the beginning, people were whining about the seeds, about the voting, about the time, about the rules, about freakin' everything. It would've been the same with any other problem, why was someone banned and why someone else wasn't etc.

Overall, mods are pretty laid back - the amount of crap someone has to post in order to get permabanned is stupendous - therefore I pretty much agree with the OP.

buddyholly
12-05-2011, 12:38 PM
They suffer from the worst excesses of political correctness at times. Whoever decided that the word r**e can not appear here is, in my opinion, not suited to be a moderator. I doubt if any forum member has claimed that the word is offensive when used in a discussion. Some misguided mod seems to think that the word is offensive, not just the act.
Yet the mods are quite happy to see posts peppered with all kinds of gender-offensive four letter words, while now wanting to reduce any kind of serious discussion of sexual violence to a string of asterisks.

For example, I can use the word murder quite freely here, but I can not threaten to do it. This is as it should be. **** falls a long way short of murder, but the word is not allowed. Crazy!

It's f*****g ri******us and suggests to me there is too much muddled thinking on the part of moderators, which they unfortunately confuse with doing good deeds. I doubt if there is any newspaper, magazine or internet forum where the word r**e is considered unsuitable for printing. By rightly being offended by the act of **** they then prevent any discussion of its offensiveness. They have the same thought processes as those families who would cover up the **** of a daughter to protect the family good name. As if by ignoring it the world will be a better place.

habibko
12-05-2011, 12:46 PM
They suffer from the worst excesses of political correctness at times. Whoever decided that the word r**e can not appear here is, in my opinion, not suited to be a moderator. I doubt if anyone here has claimed that the word is offensive when used in a discussion. Some misguided mod seems to think that the word is offensive rather than the act.
Yet the mods are quite happy to see posts peppered with all kinds of gender-offensive four letter words, while now wanting to reduce any kind of serious discussion of sexual violence to a string of asterisks.

For example, I can use the word murder quite freely here, but I can not threaten to do it. This is as it should be. **** falls a long way short of murder, but the word is not allowed. Crazy!

It's f*****g ri******us and suggest to me there is too much muddled thinking on the part of moderators, which they unfortunately confuse with doing good deeds. I doubt if there is any newspaper, magazine or internet forum where the word r**e is considered unsuitable for printing. By rightly being offended by the act of **** they then prevent any discussion of its offensiveness. They have the same thought processes as those families who would cover up the **** of a daughter to protect the family good name.

yeah I've pointed out this one before, I think they did it because of how the word was excessively used in GM ("insert a player's name" got r*ped, what a r*ping etc), still a mistake though, the problem isn't with the word but with how it's used at times, instead of censoring the word these posts should be deleted and that's it

by that logic, might as well censor the word "dope"

buddyholly
12-05-2011, 12:47 PM
"Forcibly fucking'' is quite all right though.

(I would normally not use such a phrase, but here it illustrates that by banning a simple word, they are just encouraging the use of even more offensive alternatives).

Maybe the solution would be for the mods to police those out-of-control GM's and leave NT to the adults.

tennizen
12-05-2011, 01:13 PM
It seems people are basically allowed to freely slag off the mods in open discussion and more or less get away with it.

If someones got an issue or grievance to take up, sure do it in the PM or a dedicated section. But I think anyone who deliberately slags off a Mod should get one stern warning, and then a ban.

Now im far from perfect, ive received more than a couple of bans in my MTF career, mostly for forum disruption. But i've never ever had a go at a Moderator. They should be off limits. We all guests here, and the Moderators have a job to do.

First disappointing thread from you:(

abraxas21
12-05-2011, 01:36 PM
because deep down they know they suck

Gagsquet
12-05-2011, 03:16 PM
Mods deleted the thread biggest facepalm MTF version :facepalm:

Everko
12-05-2011, 03:44 PM
Some of the mods like Action Jackson deserve every word

Logical
12-05-2011, 07:36 PM
It seems people are basically allowed to freely slag off the mods in open discussion and more or less get away with it.

If someones got an issue or grievance to take up, sure do it in the PM or a dedicated section. But I think anyone who deliberately slags off a Mod should get one stern warning, and then a ban.

Now im far from perfect, ive received more than a couple of bans in my MTF career, mostly for forum disruption. But i've never ever had a go at a Moderator. They should be off limits. We all guests here, and the Moderators have a job to do.What is the meaning you want to convey?:confused:

Seingeist
12-05-2011, 08:35 PM
"Forcibly fucking'' is quite all right though.

(I would normally not use such a phrase, but here it illustrates that by banning a simple word, they are just encouraging the use of even more offensive alternatives).

Maybe the solution would be for the mods to police those out-of-control GM's and leave NT to the adults.

It would be somewhat shocking to read in a postmatch thread, "Ferrer got forcibly fucked by Federer," in spite of it's charming alliteration. :D

This discussion reminds me of a certain amusing Mitchell's SoapBox:

uJqEKYbh-LU

Time Violation
12-05-2011, 09:22 PM
This discussion reminds me of a certain amusing Mitchell's SoapBox:

uJqEKYbh-LU

Not sure whether I should laugh in hysterics or be serious, he's dead on :spit: :worship:

star
12-05-2011, 09:35 PM
"Forcibly fucking'' is quite all right though.

(I would normally not use such a phrase, but here it illustrates that by banning a simple word, they are just encouraging the use of even more offensive alternatives).

Maybe the solution would be for the mods to police those out-of-control GM's and leave NT to the adults.

Couple of things:

I tried out a whole list of really offensive curse words as well as ethnic slurs, and **** was the only word I found censored. It’s truly puzzling to me.

And of course pr*xy as always been censored.

The other thing is that there is a whole lot of porn and sexually explicit detail on this site. As a parent, I would not want my child or teen to use this site, yet there is nothing to warn a parent that it is a sexually explicit site. It should have an age requirement and something that would alert a parent to block the site if the parent so desires.

abraxas21
12-05-2011, 09:38 PM
I tried out a whole list of really offensive curse words as well as ethnic slurs, and **** was the only word I found censored. It’s truly puzzling to me.

the glorious word c*nt is also censored

Time Violation
12-05-2011, 09:51 PM
The other thing is that there is a whole lot of porn and sexually explicit detail on this site. As a parent, I would not want my child or teen to use this site, yet there is nothing to warn a parent that it is a sexually explicit site. It should have an age requirement and something that would alert a parent to block the site if the parent so desires.

With that avatar you're not helping it :p

star
12-05-2011, 10:01 PM
With that avatar you're not helping it :p

Really?? You find that offensive?

:lol:

What about Moderator Action Jackson’s avatar then?

Anyway, I was about to change it to something more offensive for most, i.e. Rafa with the Davic Cup. :p

Time Violation
12-05-2011, 10:16 PM
Really?? You find that offensive?

:lol:

What about Moderator Action Jackson’s avatar then?

Anyway, I was about to change it to something more offensive for most, i.e. Rafa with the Davic Cup. :p

Certainly not offensive to me, same as AJ's avatar is far from explicit, however, in light of the remarks it was kind of funny you must admit :lol:

star
12-05-2011, 10:24 PM
Certainly not offensive to me, same as AJ's avatar is far from explicit, however, in light of the remarks it was kind of funny you must admit :lol:

No, I get your point, but I don’t’ find the avatar sexual at all. It’s funny to me that you do. :lol:

kinski76
12-05-2011, 10:52 PM
This discussion reminds me of a certain amusing Mitchell's SoapBox:

uJqEKYbh-LU

David Mother****ing Mitchell and his extraordinary rants :worship: Didn't think I'd see this guy on MTF. Trust an educated historian to get the viking facts right.

Hewitt =Legend
12-05-2011, 11:04 PM
I like all moderators except Action Jackson. In fact I want to be a moderator in non-tennis. I will change non-tennis colors and will make it so cool.

You are correct as usual Cleo. Don't give up.

Topspindoctor
12-05-2011, 11:22 PM
Some mods are biased. The end.

buddyholly
12-06-2011, 02:10 AM
I have to type ***** to see if this is a joke.

EDIT: I don't believe this. Pr*xy is a banned word? What possible reason could there be for that?

Curiouser and curiouser, said the rapeit.

buddyholly
12-06-2011, 02:14 AM
the glorious word c*nt is also censored

That's so we won't talk about you.

abraxas21
12-06-2011, 05:03 PM
That's so we won't talk about you.

the joke would be funny if it had some resemblance of truth but since you cant seem to stop following me around like a hungry puppy waiting for a snack, i don't picture anyone with 2 working brain cells laughing...

GOAT = Fed
12-06-2011, 05:11 PM
I personally believe that the mods do take too much crap on here, I have to agree on the OP in regards to this topic. Crap as in, most people don't constructively criticise them, but, rather write a fully blown attack on the mods which is a hugely disrespectful since they try to best to moderate this site to the best degree possible.

cobalt60
12-07-2011, 11:27 PM
1. Because it is basic human nature to blame someone else
2. Because some people just like to bitch.

And before I get slagged , I am not a mod with much moderating abilities but I think overall they do the best they can and they do what they think is best for the forum.

buddyholly
12-08-2011, 02:16 AM
1. Because it is basic human nature to blame someone else



Ahhhh, so you do think there is something deserving of blame.

Sapeod
12-09-2011, 03:52 PM
Arguments against the mods are fine. We are allowed to disgree and argue with them. It's the insults (calling them shit mods, calling them names etc.) that shouldn't be allowed.

Sapeod
12-09-2011, 03:54 PM
You are correct as usual Cleo. Don't give up.
Nobody wants to join Sweet Cleopatra's colour obssession. And the fact that she thinks AJ is the worst mod doesn't help her case. He's one of the best mods while she is a whiny, annoying poster. Major difference between them.

Logical
12-12-2011, 08:50 AM
Arguments against the mods are fine. We are allowed to disgree and argue with them. It's the insults (calling them shit mods, calling them names etc.) that shouldn't be allowed.You. Are. Acting. Speaking like a grownup:lol: :spit: