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Will Federer regain the #1 spot and break Sampras's record for most weeks at the top?

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andy neyer
06-06-2010, 03:54 PM
Looking at the rankings and the number of points Roger and Rafa have to defend this year, I'd say it's unlikely that Federer can regain it by the end of the season.

His best chance will probably come during next year's clay court season where he doesn't defend much and Nadal defends everything. Whether his game will be up to the level recquired to do it at almost 30 years old is anyone's guess, though.

Helevorn
06-06-2010, 03:56 PM
he won't.

he neither has interest in returning back n.1

moreover, -2000 points in wimbledon against nadal's 0. he'll never return n.1.. in next year's clay season nadal will defend all, and federer will possibly lose even badly than this year

DorianGray7
06-06-2010, 03:56 PM
Terrible.

It's Roger fault for losing so terribly at everything after Melbourne though. Indian Wells, Miami, etc. Ugh he should really regret those losses and of course his loss to Soderling here.

It's all cosmic justice for Federer. He deserves to lose his No. 1 ranking for not taking non-slam events seriously and for playing like shit. Good riddance.

The king is dead.

Polikarpov
06-06-2010, 03:58 PM
No. But it doesn't matter.

MalwareDie
06-06-2010, 03:58 PM
He has one last shot to reach #1 during the clay season next year. I don't think he'll be able to do it.

Roamed
06-06-2010, 03:59 PM
Unfortunately I think it's unlikely... In the short term, his best chances at gaining points will come at the end of the year in Shanghai (if he plays) and Bercy, next year's spring season, and if Rafa doesn't have such a good clay season next year, but he's erratic off the slams as we've seen so I don't know if he'd be able to sustain a high level of performance that he needs in order to do that :shrug: Never expected him to return to #1 after he lost it the first time though and he did, so who knows. :)

He said at the ITF reception that finishing YE #1 is still a goal.

Fedicilous
06-06-2010, 04:00 PM
Federer should retire. Nadal will outclass everyone, because he won 22 matches in row on clay, defeating 2(TWO) Top 8 players.

In fact, everyone should retire, because they have no chance against the Spaniard.

born_on_clay
06-06-2010, 04:09 PM
Fed will be back on top this time next year

Chair Umpire
06-06-2010, 04:14 PM
If he doesn't end on top this year he will do it in 2011. I have no doubt.

Federer should retire. Nadal will outclass everyone, because he won 22 matches in row on clay, defeating 2(TWO) Top 8 players.

In fact, everyone should retire, because they have no chance against the Spaniard.

:retard:

ApproachShot
06-06-2010, 04:16 PM
I posted the following in the Federer forum but since it's being discussed here I hope people won't mind if I put it here also:

I think that the chance for breaking the record (by becoming number 1 again) might be gone for good. Nadal has an awful lot of points to pick up at Wimbledon and the World Tour Finals. Plus I wouldn't bet against him putting on a dominant performance on clay next year either. Also outsiide clay the points in Masters touraments are likely to be shared amongst top players...including Nadal.

In retrospect Federer only missed this record by a whisker. Things could have been so different if:

He had taken the match after being 2 points away from victory against Del Potro at the US Open
He had taken the match after being 2 points away from victory against Davydenko at WTF
He hadn't contracted a lung infection prior to the Dubai tournament
He had converted match points against Baghdatis and Berdych at Indian Wells and Miami respectively
He converted break point opportunities against Nadal in Madrid
Federer entered Monte Carlo
Nadal had withdrawn from Madrid, as some rumours appeared to suggest
A fit Del Potro / Davydenko could have won a match against Nadal on clay
Becker didn't gift Sampras the year end number 1 in 1998
Federer didn't make early exits in Cincy against Simon, Canada against Karlovic and the Olympics against Blake in 2008
Federer finshed ahead of Roddick at tne end of 2003


But of course all these are irrelevant now. What matters is he picks himself up from this and pursue his main goal: winning more Grand Slam tournaments. Getting the number 1 back is a secondary matter as far as the rest of his career is concerned, in my opinion.

M4RC
06-06-2010, 04:17 PM
If he doesn't end on top this year he will do it in 2011. I have no doubt.

Oh yeah, the same thing about Melzer celebrating his RG title right now :haha:

samanosuke
06-06-2010, 04:18 PM
No , you can be 100% sure in that

prafull
06-06-2010, 04:21 PM
Only way Federer can regain No. 1 ranking is if Nadal gets injured again.

paseo
06-06-2010, 04:21 PM
Yes, he will.

kindling
06-06-2010, 04:22 PM
I don't think Fed will have a problem getting at least one more week at #1 and breaking the record. Rafa's sure to have some physical trouble again the way he's been grinding, and even if he doesn't, Fed can still find a way.

andy neyer
06-06-2010, 04:23 PM
I posted the following in the Federer forum but since it's being discussed here I hope people won't mind if I put it here also:

I think that the chance for breaking the record (by becoming number 1 again) might be gone for good. Nadal has an awful lot of points to pick up at Wimbledon and the World Tour Finals. Plus I wouldn't bet against him putting on a dominant performance on clay next year either. Also outsiide clay the points in Masters touraments are likely to be shared amongst top players...including Nadal.

In retrospect Federer only missed this record by a whisker. Things could have been so different if:

He had taken the match after being 2 points away from victory against Del Potro at the US Open
He had taken the match after being 2 points away from victory against Davydenko at WTF
He hadn't contracted a lung infection prior to the Dubai tournament
He had converted match points against Baghdatis and Berdych at Indian Wells and Miami respectively
He converted break point opportunities against Nadal in Madrid
Federer entered Monte Carlo
Nadal had withdrawn from Madrid, as some rumours appeared to suggest
A fit Del Potro / Davydenko could have won a match against Nadal on clay
Becker didn't gift Sampras the year end number 1 in 1998
Federer didn't make early exits in Cincy against Simon, Canada against Karlovic and the Olympics against Blake in 2008
Federer finshed ahead of Roddick at tne end of 2003


But of course all these are irrelevant now. What matters is he picks himself up from this and pursue his main goal: winning more Grand Slam tournaments. Getting the number 1 back is a secondary matter as far as the rest of his career is concerned, in my opinion.

I'd say that if Federer had seized his MP against Baggy and Berdych this year he could have broken the record. Those matches were tough and I think he could have advanced a few more rounds if he had passed through.

Even the match against Gulbis in Rome. If he had beaten Gulbis I think he would have advanced until the SF and that would have been enough for him to keep his no 1 today.

In retrospect, skipping MC was a terrible decision but we can only say that now.

What's done is done.

Roamed
06-06-2010, 04:25 PM
In retrospect Federer only missed this record by a whisker. Things could have been so different if:

He had taken the match after being 2 points away from victory against Del Potro at the US Open
He had taken the match after being 2 points away from victory against Davydenko at WTF
He hadn't contracted a lung infection prior to the Dubai tournament
He had converted match points against Baghdatis and Berdych at Indian Wells and Miami respectively
He converted break point opportunities against Nadal in Madrid
Federer entered Monte Carlo
Nadal had withdrawn from Madrid, as some rumours appeared to suggest
A fit Del Potro / Davydenko could have won a match against Nadal on clay
Becker didn't gift Sampras the year end number 1 in 1998
Federer didn't make early exits in Cincy against Simon, Canada against Karlovic and the Olympics against Blake in 2008
Federer finshed ahead of Roddick at tne end of 2003


Reading that is just painful :o

But of course all these are irrelevant now. What matters is he picks himself up from this and pursue his main goal: winning more Grand Slam tournaments. Getting the number 1 back is a secondary matter as far as the rest of his career is concerned, in my opinion.

Agree :)

Commander Data
06-06-2010, 04:26 PM
In Fed I trust.

ApproachShot
06-06-2010, 04:28 PM
I'd say that if Federer had seized his MP against Baggy and Berdych this year he could have broken the record. Those matches were tough and I think he could have advanced a few more rounds if he had passed through.

Even the match against Gulbis in Rome. If he had beaten Gulbis I think he would have advanced until the SF and that would have been enough for him to keep his no 1 today.

In retrospect, skipping MC was a terrible decision but we can only say that now.

What's done is done.

Likewise Bennetau in Paris. But as you say, what is done is done.

Barring injury, Nadal could be in for a sizeable reign at number 1.

Apophis
06-06-2010, 04:37 PM
Nadal will stay #1 for at least 52 weeks now, and probably longer. I don't see Federer taking it back unless the younger players collectively disappoint. He should keep focussing on the slams and forget #1.

heya
06-06-2010, 04:57 PM
Did Federer lose with easy draws again? Too bad.
Hope he doesn't spend half an hour blubbering with anguished tears.

Helevorn
06-06-2010, 05:09 PM
hes married, he has two children, he's fuckin rich and he won all he could win in his life, he doesn't give a shit about small tournaments or defending points and so on, that's it, and that's the reason why he will never return number one

Jimnik
06-06-2010, 05:14 PM
Enjoy being top seed at Wimby Fed. It'll be the last time at a slam.

thrust
06-06-2010, 05:19 PM
Only way Federer can regain No. 1 ranking is if Nadal gets injured again.

Agreed, just like he did the last time.

vn01
06-06-2010, 05:20 PM
No.He won't become number 1 again

Roamed
06-06-2010, 06:05 PM
Agreed, just like he did the last time.

Federer got back the #1 ranking fair and square over the last year - sure, he wouldn't have held on to it for so long without the injury, but after the Australian open he had a lead of something like 3300 points, so he still would have been #1 even if he hadn't played the US Open and the Australian Open, or if Rafa had played Wimbledon.

ChinoRios4Ever
06-06-2010, 08:37 PM
Becker didn't gift Sampras the year end number 1 in 1998


:confused:

heya
06-06-2010, 09:20 PM
ballkid: More towels for you, although you won't win this match.
Fed: I don't care for these Mickey Mouse tournaments.
ballkid: Alright, the retirement plan isn't coming yet.
Are you playing Minnie Mouse events?

ApproachShot
06-06-2010, 09:26 PM
:confused:

In 1998, Sampras was set to lose his year end no. 1 ranking. He wasn't scheduled to enter the Vienna tournament that year but needing the extra points, he asked Becker to offer him his wildcard to enter the tournament. He went on to win the tournament and in so doing become year end number 1 in 1998, thus guaranteeing several more weeks at the top of the rankings.

BigJohn
06-06-2010, 09:32 PM
I hope he does.

DrJules
06-06-2010, 09:38 PM
No.

But if it really mattered he should have entered Monte Carlo.

prima donna
06-06-2010, 10:01 PM
Immaterial question.

Jimnik
06-07-2010, 02:21 AM
Agassi was 33 when he finally lost it. Age shouldn't be a factor. More a question of competition.

Har-Tru
06-07-2010, 02:23 AM
Maybe now he'll start giving a fuck about non-slam tennis.

SheepleBuster
06-07-2010, 02:24 AM
Federer only needs 2 more weeks. I am sure Rafa will have some sort of injury after a loss, even though we'll know he is just taking off to save face. ;)

Filo V.
06-07-2010, 02:34 AM
I think he can, but it's going to be really difficult for him unless he starts putting more importance on tournaments outside of slams. It's too bad because the record for #1 weeks is right there for him to take, but he really only plays for majors now. Since he's declined a bit, and the pack has gotten close to him, it's going to be much harder for him to just waltz to major titles now as well. So, it's about 50/50 at best for me.

whattheheck
06-07-2010, 02:39 AM
Maybe when Rafa gets injured again.

gmokb
06-07-2010, 03:05 AM
I really wanted him to surpass Pete's record, only needed to be #1 for one more week.:sad: Rafa will take the #1 ranking on Monday so there goes that feat. Roger could regain the ranking but he would have a lot of work to do.

I would gladly settle for him winning the slams.:cool:

SheepleBuster
06-07-2010, 03:23 AM
Long term. No. Let's face it people. Roger is not the most consistent player on tour anymore, he is still very consistent, but not as consistent as Nadal. Nadal never gives up on any match, so unless someone upsets Nadal in one of the grand slams and Rogers wins a couple, no. But I think the chance will be there for him to get there for 2 weeks. Had Roger done a tad bit better after Australian Open, a couple of rounds here or there, he'd be still No.1 this week.

I don't know what happened to Roger after AO. He played so well there but then everything went to toilet. Man!

Pirata.
06-07-2010, 03:45 AM
I don't know what happened to Roger after AO. He played so well there but then everything went to toilet. Man!

Lung infection.

ElijasHsieh
06-07-2010, 04:19 AM
I think the possivility is very very low.
However, the ball is round and you never know what will happen next minute, next match, not to mention next season.

Federer has claimed 16 GSs and I think it doesn't matter for him not to be No. 1.

As a fan of him, I still hope he could surpass Samprass's record of 286 weeks No. 1 though there is no difference between 285 weeks and 286 weeks technically.

tennis2tennis
06-07-2010, 04:31 AM
Love how everyone's counting Roger out; chances are he won't recapture it 2010 but 2011 all is up for grabs and he might have a completely different plan for the hardcourt, which dominate the season.

If roger is as serious about getting the No 1 back he'll do it; he's probably going to want it long enough to break Pete's record than he won't give a crap again.

He's priority will be to add to he major's tally, he'll aim or focus on one particular major per season; stretching his 16 major's as much as possible.

Rafa's had an amazing clay court season and he'll probably do well in Wimbledon but the test will come in the post wimbledon hardcourts, particularly in the US open were there are far more rivals than he has on clay.

Snowwy
06-07-2010, 04:36 AM
I feel like this is it, but you cant ever count a great player out. Its unlikely in my opinion.

fridayeggs
06-07-2010, 04:46 AM
nadal's knees should give out in a few weeks.

jenanun
06-07-2010, 05:36 AM
i was going to say yes, but after some thoughts, very unlikely..

hard court is much more competitive as there are a few good players that could beat federer which means points could be spread out
not easy for federer to collect points as nadal did in the clay season..

next year, federer will be 29, honestly i don't think he will be back to his top form like a few years ago....

unless nadal has a really horrible hc season, and murray/ djokovic etc... still playing crap, then federer has a slight chance... otherwise...

no...

Mechlan
06-07-2010, 05:46 AM
I think it'll be very difficult. Never say never, especially if Federer somehow grabs Wimbledon and the USO, but I'd say it's pretty unlikely.

JolánGagó
06-07-2010, 06:08 AM
never.

CLAY-GOAT SEWTA
06-07-2010, 06:21 AM
Everyone said he was done in 2008

nanoman
06-07-2010, 06:34 AM
No, he's too old and too lazy for that.

swisht4u
06-07-2010, 06:54 AM
It'll be hard, a lot of things will have to go right.

Fed knew he was walking a fine line, and didn't seem to care.
I'm sure he could of put in the extra effort he puts in for GS's to do better after the AO to insure he had a few extra points to play with.
The post AO performances were ridiculously pitiful compared to the level he played at the AO.
From the fans point of view, some of them came to see Fed at some of those matches as a one time thing and left with little, a shame.

jenanun
06-07-2010, 07:22 AM
Everyone said he was done in 2008

the thing is federer not getting any younger

I do hope he can get back to no.1 just for a few more weeks to break sampras record...

Sophocles
06-07-2010, 10:23 AM
Don't see why not.

JeffCandoi
06-07-2010, 10:27 AM
No, he's too old and too lazy for that.

perfect words

it was good to see him as number 1 for a long time

bye bye fed

dusan1610
06-07-2010, 10:29 AM
The answer is yes. Probably next year on clay season.
Next year Nadal defend 1000 points from Monte Carlo, Rome and Madrid. And Roland Garros 2000 points.

Small chances are to Federer back his no. 1 this year.

christallh24
06-07-2010, 10:44 AM
Yes, it is inevitable as "Can Rafa Enjoy Even 24 Hrs. As RG Champion Before People Start Speculating Whether Roger Federer Will Regain No.1 ranking?" questions.

ufiors
06-07-2010, 01:35 PM
Rog is very attached to the records, certainly not like to have stopped when he was close to break the record of Sampras. In my opinion it is good that Nadal is No. 1 now because this will give the motivation for that Federer not only records but also to the years ended No. 1. Had broken the record of the week maybe would not have imported too much of the year, but now is different, it will now be focused on this goal. In 2007 the situation of the Race was not much different from now, then Federer doing well for the rest of the year can do it very well.

rafa_maniac
06-07-2010, 01:40 PM
Possibly. Weren't people calling Rafa a "lock" for the YE #1 just over a year ago, then two months after that Federer was safely sitting at #1 again. Likewise I couldn't have expected after this year's Oz Open that a few months later Nadal (with so many points to defend) would be sitting at #1 again. Basically, things change very very quickly in tennis. I'd frankly be surprised if Federer NEVER got back there.

PiggyGotRoasted
06-07-2010, 01:42 PM
US Open could be the best chance for federer if he wins it(And wimbledon) + a few MS at end of year and masters cup.

Djokovic, even thought he has been playing shit... if he would win wimbledon somehow, then get to the final of the US Open + some master series wins/finals could sneak up there for the end of the year as well

habibko
06-07-2010, 02:47 PM
does it REALLY matter at this point? he has been repeatedly saying he has no more big goals in his career, he is playing for fun and trying to enjoy the competition, he gave his fans and admirers enough success and achievements already, time to enjoy a living legend playing in front of our eyes while it lasts.

Sauletekis
06-07-2010, 05:47 PM
Well, it's too early to answer that, but i think it deppends more of Nadal than Rogie. If Nadal can keep of of physical problems and injuries, i think that the oppurtunitie of seeing Federer returning to #1 spot it's very unlikely to happen...

andy neyer
06-07-2010, 05:49 PM
does it REALLY matter at this point? he has been repeatedly saying he has no more big goals in his career, he is playing for fun and trying to enjoy the competition, he gave his fans and admirers enough success and achievements already, time to enjoy a living legend playing in front of our eyes while it lasts.

Well he's said this year his goal was to end the year as no 1 so i guess it's still a priority. However, it seems very unlikely. Nadal doesn't defend much and Federer defends 1 MS, 1 GS, 1 GS final and a other stuff. On the other hand, Nadal's highest stuff to defend are the SF in the USO and the F in a MS.

FSRteam
06-07-2010, 05:54 PM
He said at the ITF reception that finishing YE #1 is still a goal.

he said early this year that he was aiming at winning more tournaments than last year but he doesn't seem to be working that hard to achieve that so far... he's already one tournament short of last's year's.

andy neyer
06-07-2010, 06:15 PM
he said early this year that he was aiming at winning more tournaments than last year but he doesn't seem to be working that hard to achieve that so far... he's already one tournament short of last's year's.

That is true :lol:

I think he might have got a bit too relaxed after the AO. He's got 2 daughters now so I guess he doesn't train as much as he used to and that's very understandable. His life is just different now and his priorities have surely changed.

Chair Umpire
06-07-2010, 06:30 PM
Oh yeah, the same thing about Melzer celebrating his RG title right now :haha:

:rolleyes:

I never predicted that Melzer was going to win the title. I picked Sod as the winner. Stop talking bull*hit.

viruzzz
06-07-2010, 06:34 PM
Remember who we're talking about...
I can't understand what some people say :confused:
I mean... We all know that clay isn't Roger's favorite surface.
And we all know that in other surfaces he's still the best... Just look some months back! In the AO he was unbeatable.
Nadal can't repeat that excelent clay-season next year.
Federer will be back to N°1, probably this year, probably next... But he's the king, his numbers speak by himself.

The king is the king, shut up and obey.

toby1526
06-07-2010, 06:58 PM
I agree with you Federer won't get it back this year without some luck. He might not get it back at all.

Jills
06-07-2010, 07:02 PM
No he won't, UNLESS Rafa gets injured again soon AND Delpo doesn't come back healthy as expected AND Murray and Nole never pull out of their slumps AND Fed stops losing to every random player possible in early rounds at Masters events.

So, in other words, no. He'll never be #1 again.

raahaat7
06-07-2010, 09:11 PM
History repeats itself. yes, next year this time.

SetSampras
06-07-2010, 09:13 PM
Yea.. nadal will take his annual injury leave soon and Fed will be handed it back like last year.. Like the poster above mentioned, history repeating itself

r2473
06-07-2010, 10:13 PM
Only way Federer can regain No. 1 ranking is if Nadal gets injured again.

So you are saying it is a 100% guarantee then :)

FormerRafaFan
06-07-2010, 10:17 PM
I don't think we should count Fed out. He is still obviously a great player, and I believe he will get his #1 back sooner or later. If not this year than at least next year. Nadal will have too many points to defend.

paseo
06-08-2010, 01:45 AM
No he won't, UNLESS Rafa gets injured again soon AND Delpo doesn't come back healthy as expected AND Murray and Nole never pull out of their slumps AND Fed stops losing to every random player possible in early rounds at Masters events.

So, in other words, no. He'll never be #1 again.

Yes, and Del Potro, Murray and Djokovic will always play Fed and never Nadal. What are you talking about? Outside clay, these 3 will more likely beat Nadal than Fed.

heya
06-08-2010, 02:41 AM
Delusional J. McEnroe was annoyed because Federer's walkovers weren't counted as Fed's real victories for the tennis history books.
It doesn't matter to some fanatics that Federer plays poorly on some courts. He should dominate everyone...and you're evil if you disagree (with the rehearsed script).

Bargearse
06-08-2010, 07:38 AM
There was a time when I didn't think Fed would ever win the FO, and I was wrong about that. Even though the victory didn't come against Nadal, it was a win never the less. I also remember kind of writing him off when he lost to Nadal at Wimbledon thinking he was finished. He came back & regained number 1, broke Sampras' record, rah rah rah.

Obviously he can regain the number one ranking if the fire is back in his game. However, if he were to play Nadal in the upcoming Wimbledon final and lose again, this time, I think he's toast.:sad:

Tonkie13
06-08-2010, 07:54 AM
he has some chance, we'll see wimbledon and then i'll give my full opinion ;)

e476
06-08-2010, 08:00 AM
I think Rogie will regain it eventually and finally beat Sampras' record. However, Rogie will have to wait a while.

Vida
06-08-2010, 08:02 AM
well he should start playing in non-slam-tuneup events for start. than he must calculate not to loose any steam at the slams, which basically means he must put bigger effort overall. and the rest is down to nadal really. if he keeps his form these next few years, and doesnt make a injury related absence like he did last year, I think he can keep fed at bay, cause it wont be long when fed will not be able to rely on his slam runs. at 30 years of age, it wont be only matter of focus or effort, but simply date of production.

heya
06-08-2010, 08:52 AM
Here's an old forum rule:
Federer's nice & a brave, heroic legend.
Everyone else is less famous,
limited & lucky if they win, especially at the Slams.

Mimi
06-08-2010, 08:57 AM
heya Shakespere :worship::p

sennoc
06-08-2010, 09:19 AM
Federer should retire. Nadal will outclass everyone, because he won 22 matches in row on clay, defeating 2(TWO) Top 8 players.

2 of Top10, Mr.
And you forgot to write that the rest - 20 matches - were won against relatively poor enemies (usually 20+ in the ranking).

In my opinion, there is huge luck behind current Nadal's no. 1. As example he lost matches against 8 of Top10 players. His game is also relatively weak, he makes many errors, does not look like an invincible machine.

It's also probable that his health won't be perfect in the next months.

On the other side, Federer did look quite good at RG, so he will win something later, probably. Unfortunately for Federer, it's much easier to gain many points during the clay season. In the last year Nadal won 1 GS and just 3 tournaments - all in the last 2 months! ...and it was sufficient to regain no. 1. That's really amazing that 2 months of 12 decide... :O

heya
06-08-2010, 09:32 AM
Nadal skipped a bunch of events. Federer played almost every scheduled tournament since he turned pro.
Federer had walkovers and cakewalk draws with careless, scared, weak opponents on hardcourt, indoor hardcourt, carpet & grass
Between 2003-7, the mentally-weakening players in his age group with any Slam & Masters titles were Roddick, Safin & Hewitt.

sennoc
06-08-2010, 10:14 AM
Nadal skipped a bunch of events. Federer played almost every scheduled tournament since he turned pro.
Federer had walkovers and cakewalk draws with careless, scared, weak opponents on hardcourt, indoor hardcourt, carpet & grass
Between 2003-7, the mentally-weakening players in his age group with any Slam & Masters titles were Roddick, Safin & Hewitt.

Man, you can not be serious.

JolánGagó
06-08-2010, 10:20 AM
I think Rogie will regain it eventually and finally beat Sampras' record. However, Rogie will have to wait a while.

You're seriously deluded, I bet you live a very content life.

andy neyer
06-13-2010, 08:29 PM
Here's an old forum rule:
Federer's nice & a brave, heroic legend.
Everyone else is less famous,
limited & lucky if they win, especially at the Slams.

:worship:
That made me laugh.

Jimnik
06-13-2010, 10:21 PM
For sure he can blame the precious Halle final if he finishes less than 100 points behind Nadal.

Persimmon
06-13-2010, 10:40 PM
I think Fed will become number 1 again. Right after he wins Wimbledon and then USO this year. So probably by September.

Sunset of Age
06-13-2010, 11:41 PM
I think Fed will become number 1 again. Right after he wins Wimbledon and then USO this year. So probably by September.

And defend his Cincy points as well, of course. :silly: :silly: :silly:

You ARE joking, I hope? :scared:
Chances of Feds to pick up the YE #1 again this year: 0,0000001%.

Topspin Forehand
06-14-2010, 12:15 AM
Nope. Fed will not regain number 1. Staying in the top 5 is still possible though.

rafa_maniac
06-14-2010, 08:13 AM
And defend his Cincy points as well, of course. :silly: :silly: :silly:

You ARE joking, I hope? :scared:
Chances of Feds to pick up the YE #1 again this year: 0,0000001%.

Think that's going too far Karin. The second half of the season favours Roger's game and he's only 3000 points behind right now which is easily erased with the current system of exponentially greater points for tournament wins. Last year people were calling Rafa a "lock" for the YE#1 as early as May and look how that turned out. I think it's still WIDE open.

Sunset of Age
06-14-2010, 03:16 PM
Think that's going too far Karin. The second half of the season favours Roger's game and he's only 3000 points behind right now which is easily erased with the current system of exponentially greater points for tournament wins. Last year people were calling Rafa a "lock" for the YE#1 as early as May and look how that turned out. I think it's still WIDE open.

I was surely exaggerating for a bit, yeah. ;)
As you say, nothing is set in stone. But still, I wouldn't say the second half of the season favours Roger's game that much anymore, as he's been struggling on HC ever since he won Cincy and reached the USO final just as much as elsewhere (despite winning the AO, where we saw a short-lived ressurrection of Jesus!Fed appearing). I base my opinion on his recent level of play (which is still good, but very far away from his 2005-2007 form) rather than on his results of the past.

Well, as long as it's Fedal occupying the #1 (and #2) position, I don't think I really care. :D

A_Skywalker
06-14-2010, 03:23 PM
Nope. Fed will not regain number 1. Staying in the top 5 is still possible though.

You are realistic.

Sapeod
06-14-2010, 03:27 PM
federer won't be no.1 again, he will stay top 4 for a few years though.

raahaat7
06-14-2010, 03:34 PM
Fed will be back on top this time next year

this

andy neyer
06-14-2010, 11:00 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0614/soc_e_rankings6_286.jpg

Federer's chase for the No. 1 record (http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/wimbledon10/columns/story?columnist=kamakshi_tandon&id=5282635)
June 14, 2010

By Kamakshi Tandon

When Roger Federer fell to Robin Soderling in the French Open, he didn't just lose a quarterfinal match -- he also lost his No. 1 ranking. By not reaching the semifinals, Federer gave Rafael Nadal the chance to overtake him by winning the tournament. And Nadal promptly did so, winning his fifth French Open crown to move back to No. 1 and nudge Federer down to No. 2.

During the tournament, neither of them seemed to care much who ended up in the top spot.

"As far as the No. 1 ranking is concerned, it's in his hands now," Federer said after his loss, referring to Nadal. "Things change really quickly. I won't be following the rest of the tournament and hoping that Nadal doesn't win just so that I stay on top."

After winning the title, Nadal said, "When I was crying after the match, the last thing I was thinking was of the No. 1."

But the switch was important in one respect -- it left Federer just shy of breaking the record for total weeks spent at No. 1, a pretty significant statistic in tennis. The Swiss does hold the record for the longest unbroken streak at No. 1, having spent 237 straight weeks at the top. But cumulatively, his count is 285 total weeks, one week behind Pete Sampras' mark of 286 total weeks.

At first glance, the setback doesn't seem particularly devastating -- Federer trails Nadal by only 220 points in this week's rankings, and Federer traditionally outperforms the Spaniard on grass and U.S. hard courts. So he should get a chance to move back up fairly soon, right?

In fact, Federer's chances of reclaiming No. 1 are slim until at least after the U.S. Open in September, and perhaps beyond.

Ranking points expire after one year, so players have to constantly match last season's performance at any given tournament to maintain their total. If they do better, their total goes up; if they do worse, it goes down.

Since Federer won the French Open last year and earned the maximum 2,000 points available, for example, he had no way of gaining ground this year -- the best-case scenario for the Swiss was to defend his title and collect another 2,000 points to replace the 2,000 that would drop off at the end of the tournament. As it happens, he reached only the quarterfinals, collecting 360 points (a net loss of 1,640 points). Nadal, who reached only the fourth round last year but won the whole thing this time around, had 180 points drop off and added 2,000 (a net gain of 1,820 points).

The same scenario is set to play out for the rest of the summer. Federer will be defending titles, finals and semifinals all the way, while Nadal has the opportunity to add a lot of points -- injuries forced him to miss Wimbledon last year and he had only so-so results during the North American hard-court season. All in all, Federer is looking to defend 3,120 points more than Nadal through the U.S. Open -- more than the equivalent of a Grand Slam plus a Masters title.

So the real gap between the two is far larger than the 310 points on this week's ranking list. Federer cannot retake No. 1 at Wimbledon under any circumstances, and should Nadal reach the semifinals there, Federer would have to win Toronto, Cincinnati and the U.S. Open to have any chance at all.

There's a possibility Federer could even drop to No. 3, with Novak Djokovic able to overtake him at Wimbledon if he both outlasts the Swiss and reaches at least the semifinals.

If Federer can avoid that scenario and stay within striking distance of No. 1, he will have chances to move back up in the fall, when he is defending fewer points than Nadal. At the same time, however, Nadal is also likely to play more tournaments, taking part in October's Asian swing while Federer may opt to skip Shanghai and take a break before the indoor events in Europe.

Either way, the bottom line is that Federer will have to do something special to earn back the No. 1 ranking. After he won the Australian Open, he was in position to simply coast to the 286-week record by reaching a semifinal here and there.

As it turns out, winning just two more matches at Indian Wells and Miami would have done it (he squandered match points in both his losses there), or defeating Nadal in the final of Madrid, or defeating Soderling in the French Open quarterfinals.

But week after week, he fell just short. And at the last minute, it slipped away.

So for the moment, it's a case of close-but-not-quite for Federer and the No. 1 record. He needs just a week or two more at the top, but getting back there could take a lot longer than that.

Kamakshi Tandon is a freelance tennis writer for ESPN.com. Robert Waltz contributed to this story.

Sunset of Age
06-15-2010, 10:06 AM
^^ Pretty much sums it all up.

So the real gap between the two is far larger than the 310 points on this week's ranking list. Federer cannot retake No. 1 at Wimbledon under any circumstances, and should Nadal reach the semifinals there, Federer would have to win Toronto, Cincinnati and the U.S. Open to have any chance at all.

Hence my earlier post (in a different thread), that with reaching the semis at Wimbledon, Nadal will have virtually sealed the YE#1 spot.

michellej
06-15-2010, 11:33 AM
Wimbledon 2010 Preview - Roger Federer and ranking implications


Roger Federer is ranked 2nd on tour and he appears to have a future there.

Grand Slams often lead to massive shifts in rankings as the ranking points associated with match-wins are not found to the same degree in any other tournaments. Here are the ranking points offered for singles results to the men at Wimbledon:

Winner: 2000 points
Finalist: 1200 points
Semifinalist: 720 points
Quarterfinalist: 360 points
R16: 180 points
R32: 90 points
R64: 45 points
R128: 10 points

Last year's quarterfinalists were as follows:

Lleyton Hewitt
Juan Carlos Ferrero
Novak Djokovic
Ivo Karlovic

Each of these players earned 360 ranking points and they need to make at least the quarters again this year to defend those points. Karlovic and Ferrero will be in tough to do that.

The Semifinalists from 2009:

Andy Murray
Tommy Haas

They each earned 720 points from last year and Haas is in great danger of failing to defend those points and he may drop down to below 70th or so after Wimbledon 2010.

Finalist: Andy Roddick (1200 ranking points)

Champion: Roger Federer (2000 ranking points)

Now here are the current tour rankings for the top 10 complete with their current ranking points and betting odds to win outright (June 14th 2010):

1 Rafael Nadal 8,745 (+264 Bwin.com)
2 Roger Federer 8,525 (+150 Boylesports - MAXIMUMBONUS promo code)
3 Novak Djokovic 6,545 (+2200 Bwin.com)
4 Andy Murray 5,155 (+900 Bodog - MAXIMUMBONUS promo code)
5 Nikolay Davydenko 4,785 (+15000 Victor Chandler)
6 Robin Soderling 4,755 (+1600 SportingBet - MAXIMUMBONUS promo code)
7 Andy Roddick 4,510 (+1400 totesport)
8 JM Del Potro 4,395 (injured)
9 Fernando Verdasco 3,645 (+10000 Betfred)
10 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 3,185 (+8000 Stan James)

Of note world number 1 Rafael Nadal did not contest Wimbledon in 2009 due to injury. That means he has 0 points to defend this year and that means that any ranking points he earns this year will simply be added to his already existing total.

Roger Federer, on the other hand, has 8,525 ranking points and he WON Wimbledon outright last year. Of his current ranking points 2000 are at risk. With a hypothetical though unrealistic first round loss he won only defend 10 of those ranking points while 1,990 would fall off for a new total of 6,535.

Roger Federer cannot become world number 1 with another Wimbledon title - all he can do is remain the world number 2. Even if he wins outright at the All England Club his ranking points total will not go up - he'll just retain the 2000 points he earned from last year.

Furthermore, Nadal cannot be caught at world number 1 by any other player. Should world number 3 Novak Djokovic unexpectedly win the title he would take down 2000 ranking points for an improvement of 1640 points from last year's QF appearance. That would still not be enough to catch Nadal in the rankings even if Rafa went out in the first round.

Since Nadal was injured at this time last year he does not have many points to protect until the 2010 US Open. Nadal only contested the Cincinnati Masters and the Canadian Masters last year between Wimbledon and Flushing Meadows and he only earned 540 points from those two Masters events (at the US Open he earned 720 points). There are certainly scenarios where Federer, Djokovic, or Murray or others can overtake Nadal before the US Open, but they seem unlikely at this point and Rafa looks good, in my opinion, to retain the world number 1 ranking until at least Flushing Meadows.

Federer's world number 2 is within reach of some players if Federer suffers an early or middle round defeat. Suppose Federer suffered another upset and went out of Wimbledon in the quarters. He would only protect 360 points of 2000 for a drop of 1640 which would bring him down to 6885.

Djokovic could surpass that total with a semifinal appearance although Murray could not, even if the Scot won the title. If Federer went out much earlier than he could be caught by others but an early round loss is very unlikely for the 6 time champion.

Tennis rankings aren't terribly complicated but it's still easy to make a mistake with so many players, so many ranking points, and so many events. I'm confident in what I've said here but I don't have a computer doing this for me - it's just me and my desktop calculator. If there is an error, accept my apologies.

However I believe the following to be true:

1. There is a 100% chance that Nadal will be number 1 after Wimbledon.
2. Roger Federer is very likely to be the world number 2.
3. Unless Nadal withdraws from Wimbledon unexpectedly he will have a bigger lead over Federer heading into the hard court season where Rafa has more room to grow because he was less productive at this time last year than Fed.

It all leads me to conclude that Federer will fall just short of beating Pete Sampras' record of most weeks at world number 1. Federer is chasing Nadal with less room for growth and the Swiss Maestro is only moving further away from his tennis prime.

Federer is the type of player that can win a Slam when everyone is starting to write him off and perhaps there are one or two more Slam titles left but I still don't think he will ever be world number 1 again provided that Nadal's body holds up until Del Potro makes his return to tour and starts blazing everyone off the court like he did at last year's US Open.


http://www.crunchsports.com/category/Tennis/Wimbledon-2010-Preview--Roger-Federer-and-ranking-implications-201006150001/

swisht4u
06-30-2010, 03:41 PM
It'll be very hard, I can no longer say he's the best overall player on tour.
He had a very strong AO but since that and the lung infection he never got back to that early year form.
Djokovic will take over the #2 spot, finally passing Fed in terms of skill. Had to happen eventually.
Fed missed some really easy forhands today, some loose backhands and hardly any great shots which used to come so easily. Not a high level by any means today and all tournament.
I'm sure he's taking this hard and will have some kind of response so I can't count him out completely.

phelbyn
06-30-2010, 03:51 PM
he won't.

he neither has interest in returning back n.1

moreover, -2000 points in wimbledon against nadal's 0. he'll never return n.1.. in next year's clay season nadal will defend all, and federer will possibly lose even badly than this year

How ignorant to say "HE HAS NO INTEREST IN RETURNING" to number 1. What a pathetic statement. He is still playing tennis, thus he obviously still enjoys the challenge. He's had a terrible 6 months. Obviously as one ages, the titles are going to be harder to come by. I think with so little to defend this year that he has a sure shot at being #1 this time next year... if he gets off to a good start and starts winning smaller tournaments.

phelbyn
06-30-2010, 03:51 PM
It'll be very hard, I can no longer say he's the best overall player on tour.
He had a very strong AO but since that and the lung infection he never got back to that early year form.
Djokovic will take over the #2 spot, finally passing Fed in terms of skill. Had to happen eventually.
Fed missed some really easy forhands today, some loose backhands and hardly any great shots which used to come so easily. Not a high level by any means today and all tournament.
I'm sure he's taking this hard and will have some kind of response so I can't count him out completely.

Good quote! I think with children and married life, priorities are obviously different. And good for him.

Filo V.
06-30-2010, 04:01 PM
No, doesn't look like it, but it's not a total non-chance. His life and priorities have changed, and he is 29 years old. It's hard to keep that spirit, focus and determination on such a high level forever, especially since he's already won almost everything and he has children and a family life now. He's done well to hang on as long as he has. But he still has game left. It depends how much he will go for it and also, if Rafa and Nole can stay healthy long enough to remain where they are.

KTF
06-30-2010, 04:19 PM
Let dead people vote!!!

ApproachShot
06-30-2010, 05:08 PM
A more pertinent question would be if he can regain number 2 by the end of the year.

twolf21
07-05-2010, 11:02 PM
I've always had a lot of faith in Federer, even when we as in his slumps. But, now that he's 29, I'm getting more and more anxious about how he can keep up. My hope is that the past month of tennis is no indicator for how he'll play in the future. But I can't be sure...

I can't imagine tennis without Federer in contention...

What does everyone here think about Federer's situation?

Bilbo
07-05-2010, 11:05 PM
no

Roamed
07-05-2010, 11:06 PM
He'll win another slam sometime. Don't see him returning to #1 though unfortunately. 285 weeks is pretty damn good though :p

legolandbridge
07-05-2010, 11:08 PM
He's probably kicking himself in the ass for not getting that 286-week record at #1. Winning a few rounds at Monaco probably would have sealed the deal. Or winning Estoril?

philosophicalarf
07-05-2010, 11:09 PM
Number 1 is Nadal's for as long as he's fit - that's been the case for two years. Simple arithmethic:

4600-5000 points on clay
wimbledon for another 1200-2000
slow hard (Aus, IW, Miami) maybe another 2000 points average


That's over 8k baseline, then add in points from canada/cinci/us open/250s/500s/etc/etc. Fed would probably need to hold 3 slams at once to overtake him.

The real question for me is if Fed can stay in the top4, to keep the easy draws rolling in, and maybe allow him to get up to 20 slams.

Kworb
07-05-2010, 11:09 PM
I'm not sure. He's been struggling for three years now. If Nadal hadn't gotten injured he probably would have never regained #1 since he first lost it. There are too many glitches now in his game to be able to perform consistently enough. I would love for him to break Sampras's record because he is so much more worthy of holding it, but he does not play in a mug era like Pete did so it'll be really difficult.

Sapeod
07-05-2010, 11:11 PM
He might hopefully, but he'll get some more slams, which is always as good.

star
07-05-2010, 11:12 PM
He's got a good chance next year. I don't expect Nadal to defend all his clay points. He had a poor (for him) clay run and not as much as he can do on grass. He has every opportunity to regain lost ground.

Whether he will do it is something we will have to wait and see.

Luinir
07-05-2010, 11:12 PM
no he will fall

twolf21
07-05-2010, 11:22 PM
It's such a bummer, being only ONE WEEK away from tying Sampras' record. :mad:

Bilbo
07-05-2010, 11:25 PM
It's such a bummer, being only ONE WEEK away from tying Sampras' record. :mad:

it's his own fault. he got sloppy in non slams.

Marc23
07-05-2010, 11:27 PM
If he is lucky

Furball
07-05-2010, 11:27 PM
No, we are witnessing a decline. Nadal will decline too. Berdych, Soderling, Del Potro, and Gulbis will take over.

Montego
07-05-2010, 11:43 PM
I think it will be tough. The only reasonable chance for him is the very good claycourt season in 2011. I am not writing him off, but he has a mountain to climb with fit Nadal and young guns around the corner.

He is the biggest champion, so we might expect the unexpected, but he will be 30 next year, not too much time left.

so I voted for "maybe"

andy neyer
07-05-2010, 11:47 PM
No way.

Clydey
07-06-2010, 12:14 AM
Not unless he's fortunate enough for Rafa to get injured again.

Macbrother
07-06-2010, 12:21 AM
In 2008 I was certain he would get it back. Now.. it's really difficult to say. If you trust Federer's presser and don't believe he's in denial, then he can get #1 back, absolutely. Reality-wise, I think it would be very difficult but not completely out of the question. Something like 25-30% chance.

andy neyer
07-06-2010, 12:26 AM
In 2008 I was certain he would get it back. Now.. it's really difficult to say. If you trust Federer's presser and don't believe he's in denial, then he can get #1 back, absolutely. Reality-wise, I think it would be very difficult but not completely out of the question. Something like 25-30% chance.

This was how I felt as well.

btw, i made this same thread like a month ago

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=163254

Jills
07-06-2010, 12:35 AM
No, we are witnessing a decline. Nadal will decline too. Berdych, Soderling, Del Potro, and Gulbis will take over.

This, this, this :worship:

Jills
07-06-2010, 12:38 AM
Fed will never get #1 back. Nor will he get #2 back. He's lucky to be in the Top 3 the way he's been playing since the AO.

Once Del Potro comes back it will be even tougher for him to stay near the top. Fed is done, deal with it.

Mechlan
07-06-2010, 12:38 AM
Very unlikely, but not impossible.

twolf21
07-06-2010, 12:45 AM
This was how I felt as well.

btw, i made this same thread like a month ago

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=163254

Sorry about that. Should've searched it.

Persimmon
07-06-2010, 01:14 AM
Doubtful since he tanks all the masters. But he will win 1 or 2 more slams.

angry1
07-06-2010, 12:52 PM
I'll say the same as I would have last time he lost it.No.I'll be right eventually.

BTW could people stop having can and will in the poll/thread title I'm never sure which to answer so went with will,he obviously could.

Bazooka
07-06-2010, 01:31 PM
Back in 2009 I said no, and I was wrong, but this time his game is too shaky, to be honest. Also Nadal has already 7.000 points that he doesn't need to defend for almost 11 months, he would need to win absolutely everything to surpass him. So almost no chance until next summer, when he's almost 30. Looking bad.

Filo V.
07-06-2010, 02:11 PM
The only reason #1 went back into play is because Rafa get injured. That's the truth, Rafa has proven at this point when he healthy, he's the best player in the world, and it isn't really close right now. If Nadal doesn't get injured, then I don't see anyone taking #1 away from him. Roger can get it back maybe, but it depends on him doing better outside of slams, beating Rafa more consistently, and obviously, because he doesn't play many events in general, he has to make up for it by doing amazing in GS's. QF results aren't going to be good enough. So, it's not likely, but anything can happen.

Filo V.
07-06-2010, 02:15 PM
Also, it needs to be taken into account, Rafa's results outside of the F in Shanghai and Doha and SF at the US Open are pretty light up to Monte Carlo. That's 3 events, in the span of what.........8 months? So, he is almost definitely going to improve the ranking even more in terms of points, and Roger is defending quite a bit with the F at US Open, W in Cincinnati, F at Basel, SF at WTF and W at AO. So, what people should worry about is whether Roger falls too far behind for it to even matter, because it's getting to that point now.

MacTheKnife
07-06-2010, 03:08 PM
Well I said no the last time and try not to make the same mistake twice. So this time I'm going with maybe.

chazz
07-06-2010, 03:14 PM
don't see it, unless rafa gets injured, rafa just picks up way more points in the masters, and is outperforming him in slams now

Sophocles
07-06-2010, 04:18 PM
Nadal will have to lose more - conditions: injury, fit Del Potro, somebody else - & Federer will have to win more - conditions: new coach, motivation transplant, better nanny - so it's not impossible. But he doesn't have time to wait for Nadal to decline in 2 years, probably can't beat Nadal himself any more, the main threats to Nadal could hardly be worse off, & his own game is in disarray, so the prospects for the foreseeable future are bleak. Having said that, I know Agassi was able to nab the Number One spot from time to time well into his 30s.

abraxas21
10-09-2010, 11:11 PM
well, after this year's us open the answer to this questions seems more like a no

nadal_slam_king
10-09-2010, 11:20 PM
I hope Federer stays at number 3 so Rafa gets to smoke him every couple of weeks in semis and get the head-to-head up to 25-7 and 12-2 in slams.

nadal_slam_king
10-09-2010, 11:22 PM
This, this, this :worship:

Soderling, Berdych too old. Djokovic most likely, and also Murray are likely to take over top ranking, but Rafa will still win slams into his 30s. Del Potro is a lottery because it's hard to predict injuries, plus he's no good on grass and has played poorly at the Australian Open.

dombrfc
10-09-2010, 11:30 PM
Soderling, Berdych too old. Djokovic most likely, and also Murray are likely to take over top ranking, but Rafa will still win slams into his 30s. Del Potro is a lottery because it's hard to predict injuries, plus he's no good on grass and has played poorly at the Australian Open.

:sobbing::sobbing::sobbing:

Pirata.
10-09-2010, 11:33 PM
Fed will never get #1 back. Nor will he get #2 back. He's lucky to be in the Top 3 the way he's been playing since the AO.

:spit:

QF at French Open, final in Halle, QF at Wimbledon, Toronto final, Cincy win and USO semifinal. And probably very likely to reclaim his #2 ranking if Nole can't defend his Shanghai or Paris points.

abraxas21
10-09-2010, 11:54 PM
I hope Federer stays at number 3 so Rafa gets to smoke him every couple of weeks in semis and get the head-to-head up to 25-7 and 12-2 in slams.

you're trying too hard to win the ACC.

Topspindoctor
10-10-2010, 01:08 AM
Federer isn't going to stay #3 for long, much less take back #1. After next year's AO, he's going to plummet in rankings.

Crazy Girl
10-10-2010, 01:15 AM
I hope Federer stays at number 3 so Rafa gets to smoke him every couple of weeks in semis and get the head-to-head up to 25-7 and 12-2 in slams.Oh, no! NSK! This is too bad from you!
I was - really - thinking that you are a clever gentleman.:o:o

Was I in error?

I have given to you some good answers about Rafito,
and you're thanking me with this money?:rolleyes::rolleyes::eek::eek:

Crazy Girl
10-10-2010, 01:20 AM
Federer isn't going to stay #3 for long, much less take back #1. After next year's AO, he's going to plummet in rankings.

Doctor, everyone has his own destiny.

It's the Life, Beauty!!

C'est la Vie!!!

However I think Roger has been at the n°1 for a decent time! Don't you believe?

Filo V.
10-10-2010, 01:43 AM
Some of you Nadal fans are absolutely idiotic complete wastes of posts.

nadal_slam_king
10-10-2010, 05:57 AM
Oh, no! NSK! This is too bad from you!
I was - really - thinking that you are a clever gentleman.:o:o

Was I in error?

I have given to you some good answers about Rafito,
and you're thanking me with this money?:rolleyes::rolleyes::eek::eek:

:inlove:sexi:inlove:

Ibracadabra
10-10-2010, 06:18 AM
I believe he can do it for a short period, obviously he'll never dominate like he once did.

Hellraiser
10-10-2010, 06:36 AM
I won't be shocked if in the next year Fedex will drop on #4-#5 spot.

ApproachShot
10-10-2010, 09:49 AM
No. In my opinion to do so he would have had to have won this year's USO or at least made the finals to have a chance. The Toronto final, Cincy win and USO final/win would have provided an ideal start to his 12 month rankings if he were looking to recapture #1 after Wimbledon next year.

As it is, the points swing to Nadal in the big tournaments has become very considerable and will only increase in the near future with Rafa defending fewer points than Roger in the WTF and the Australian Open. What's more, I would not bet against Nadal having a stellar clay season next year either. So unless Federer wins 2 titles out of the WTF/AO/Wimby as well as going very deep in Indian Wells, Miami and the clay court tournaments, realistically I cannot see him taking back #1 in the next year. And if not in 2011, then when?

Of course by his own phenomenal standards, this year has been a bit of a disappointment. But even still I believe he will end the year as #2. Looking ahead, he'll still be contending near the top of the 2-4 rank bracket (which may be no mean feat for a 30 year old, especially if Del Potro can play at his US09 level again).

I think there's something quite powerful about Federer being one week short of Sampras in the total weeks at #1. If only he had converted from any of the following scenarios: being 2 points away from beating Del Potro at the USO, 2 points away beating Davydenko at the WTF, 1 point away beating Baghdatis and Berdych at Indian Wells and Miami, not having to withdraw from Dubai due to a lung infection, not deciding to play Monte Carlo...then the situation could have been so different.

Just goes to show that the margins in tennis can be very thin at times.

Jaz
10-10-2010, 12:12 PM
federer has to play more tournaments if he wants to be #1/

Florida
10-10-2010, 01:34 PM
Yes he will next year, when Nadal has a load of points to defend!!!!

coonster14
10-10-2010, 01:37 PM
It is possible Roger can get #1 back next year where Rafa has so much to defend.
Roger only has himself to blame for the way he has played this year since he won Aus Open.

To be just 1 week short of equalling the Sampras record of 286 total weeks, if it doesn't happen, well then, that's just too bad.

nadal_slam_king
10-10-2010, 02:26 PM
Federer would be relying on Rafa to lose before the QFs in slams in order to really help Federer. Plus Rafa can gain points at Australian Open, Queens, Toronto, Cincy. And Rafa's lead is massive, so he can afford some slip-ups.

ApproachShot
10-10-2010, 02:59 PM
Federer would be relying on Rafa to lose before the QFs in slams in order to really help Federer. Plus Rafa can gain points at Australian Open, Queens, Toronto, Cincy. And Rafa's lead is massive, so he can afford some slip-ups.

This. Moreover, if Nadal can have a strong finish in the remaining tournaments this season then as far as rankings are concerned, the ball will (excuse the pun) be in Nadal's court. Roger would have to rely on Rafa slipping up early in a few of the big tournaments as it's unrealistic to assume that he will be able to accumulate enough points just by winning his own matches.

Yes, Rafa does have a lot to defend, but he could realistically gain points in the early hard court season. In addition, it's difficult to see him not winning the French Open. What about the grass court tournaments? Well, he will probably be the favourite for Wimbledon too.

nadal_slam_king
10-10-2010, 03:07 PM
This. Moreover, if Nadal can have a strong finish in the remaining tournaments this season then as far as rankings are concerned, the ball will (excuse the pun) be in Nadal's court. Roger would have to rely on Rafa slipping up early in a few of the big tournaments as it's unrealistic to assume that he will be able to accumulate enough points just by winning his own matches.

Yes, Rafa does have a lot to defend, but he could realistically gain points in the early hard court season. In addition, it's difficult to see him not winning the French Open. What about the grass court tournaments? Well, he will probably be the favourite for Wimbledon too.

Yeah, if Rafa wins Roland Garros it's very difficult for him to lose early at Wimbledon because you know he's in great ball-striking form from the clay and you know he adapts very easily to grass. And yes he can also gain some points at Indian Wells as he's very good on that surface. His future is very well set-up to have a long reign at number one. And even if he gets tendonitis its not big deal, he had tendonitis twice this year and had one knee treated just before the clay season and it fixed it 100% and then the other knee fixed after Wimbledon. It's only a 3-4 day process of blood-spinning treatment. Whereas the 2009 treatment didn't work at all, and wasn't applied by the same doctor. That's no longer an issue:yeah:

Sapeod
10-10-2010, 03:08 PM
All of you Nadal tards are absolutely idiotic complete wastes of posts.
Fixed.

heartbroken
10-10-2010, 03:20 PM
I think there's something quite powerful about Federer being one week short of Sampras in the total weeks at #1. If only he had converted from any of the following scenarios: being 2 points away from beating Del Potro at the USO, 2 points away beating Davydenko at the WTF, 1 point away beating Baghdatis and Berdych at Indian Wells and Miami, not having to withdraw from Dubai due to a lung infection, not deciding to play Monte Carlo...then the situation could have been so different.

Just goes to show that the margins in tennis can be very thin at times.

The thing about records is there are often elements of good fortune/bad fortune that come into play to twist the numbers. Sometimes they twist your way, sometimes not.

Take Sampras, for example. Were there weeks during his career that he might have lost the number 1 ranking, but maybe got a little lucky? Sure, but there were also times where he wasn't so lucky, and it cost him weeks at the top.

I thought Sampras was playing some of the best tennis of his career during the pre USO swing in 1999, but a back issue forced him to withdraw from the USO. My opinion is that without that back problem, Sampras would have won the USO that year, and finished the year number 1 for a seventh consecutive year.

However, that's not what happened, and I don't grant Sampras an exception for being hurt when I look at various records. It's just the way it is. One player doesn't always get the benefit of everything going their way. There were times that Sampras was lucky. There were times when Sampras was unlucky. That's life. More power to anyone that can always manage to be on the lucky side in life!

It's a great thing to be lucky, IMO. Is there anyone here who is thinking to themselves that they wished they weren't so lucky in life? I kinda doubt it. And yet, some folks will really protest if you ever try to suggest that a certain player was ever lucky during their career. :lol: I believe that at various times, players like Fed, Sampras, and Nadal each got lucky. And at times, each were unlucky. That is what I wouild expect from life...

Filo V.
10-10-2010, 09:31 PM
Fixed.

Thanks, but that wasn't necessary, I wrote what I meant to write :wavey:

As far as this thread, can Roger become #1 again? Yes. But it will be extremely difficult, as he hasn't had the same intensity and results outside of majors he did prior to 2007, and that is what it's going to take for him to get to #1. Really, his priority seems to be on his family, and on getting majors. So therefore, it's going to take amazing GS results to get #1, and a dip in results from Rafa. It's a lot to ask. But you can never say never with Federer.

abraxas21
03-20-2011, 04:14 PM
I don't know if he can do it at this point.

Mungo
03-20-2011, 04:19 PM
No, he won't. Sampras' record is safe atm.

Johnny Groove
03-20-2011, 04:22 PM
Fed needs to win Wimbledon and/or USO to have anything resembling a chance. Getting his act together in Miami and on clay wont hurt either.

Pirata.
03-23-2011, 09:02 PM
"Roger is on the other side of the float, I don't think he'll ever play as well as he did three or four years ago—that's not to say he can't still win a slam, but it's difficult to see him climbing back to No. 1," Navratilova said. "Nadal is dominating and Djokovic's confidence is off the chart. Roger has lost three matches (this season) to Djokovic and lost to him at U.S. Open last year as well, it will get under his skin."

Roger was asked about it in his presser

"You'd rather hear other things, you know. Maybe she missed the London World Tour Finals. I don't know. Maybe she was somewhere else climbing Kilimanjaro. I don't know. I love her."

:lol:

Blackbriar
03-23-2011, 09:05 PM
:rolleyes:
another love affair in tennis. Navratilova is a man. and an ugly one.

FlameOn
03-23-2011, 09:08 PM
No, unless Nadal and Djoker are out for months with injuries.

Vida
03-23-2011, 09:14 PM
cool answer there.

duong
03-23-2011, 09:16 PM
I don't know if he can do it at this point.

mathematically he can, if he wins Wimbledon and plays well in next months : he just needs to get a little bit more points than Djokovic by Wimbledon and not to lose too many points to Nadal.

Now it's only mathematical :lol:

abraxas21
03-23-2011, 09:17 PM
Roger was asked about it in his presser



:lol:

good to see federer putting navratilova in her place. can you give me the source please?

duong
03-23-2011, 09:25 PM
Navratilova's opinion is good (more accurate than Borg's in 2008 who said that Fed was only Wimbledon's 3rd favorite behind Nadal and Nole :rolleyes: ),

but Fed's answer is funny : he's a funny guy to me ;) (at least to me :shrug: because I know for others he has no humour or personality at all :rolleyes: he's the most boring or devilish person depending on the people)

abraxas21
03-23-2011, 09:29 PM
navratilova's opinion is fine and credible here but she's been a nadal fangirl for so long that i'm way too tired of her and her fangirling opinions.

duong
03-23-2011, 09:40 PM
navratilova's opinion is fine and credible here but she's been a nadal fangirl for so long that i'm way too tired of her and her fangirling opinions.

Navratilova a Nadal fangirl ? it's really a shame because she was so different from him :shrug:

And she suffered from Seles who actually was a Nadal-clone :lol:

in my eyes, Martina is still the greatest as Fed is the greatest male player ;)

LawrenceOfTennis
03-23-2011, 09:42 PM
It not depends only on him but mostly on Djokovic and Nadal....

Lleyton_
03-23-2011, 09:46 PM
No that ship has sailed. He shouldn't have lost to Soderling.

dombrfc
03-23-2011, 09:48 PM
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4937/17495862.jpg

I dont see why he cant.

abraxas21
03-23-2011, 09:51 PM
Navratilova a Nadal fangirl ? it's really a shame because she was so different from him :shrug:

And she suffered from Seles who actually was a Nadal-clone :lol:

in my eyes, Martina is still the greatest as Fed is the greatest male player ;)

wouldn't graff be greater than navratilova going by the numbers? i don't follow women's tennis anyway.

and yeah, i think shes pretty much a fangirl of nadal

she did say this:

You can be pretty safe in predicting Nadal will claim two Slams a year for the next five years, so that puts him on 19 Slams and I'd be confident in saying he should get to 20 at least. Having won already on all four surfaces, he will be the greatest tennis player of all time.'

and when soderling was beating nadal in the fourth set of RG she said something like 'Soderling has no right to be in the position he's in at the moment'.

This is on par with the sort of stuff you'd expect from Start da Game or Tospindoctor.

dombrfc
03-23-2011, 09:52 PM
You'll see after RG.

Probably but i can dream.

tnosugar
03-23-2011, 10:01 PM
the olympic gold at wimby is the only thing that should interest him. and the Davis Cup, where he has a good chance with Wawa. That would kind of wrap it up and he could chill and become the family man that he naturally is :)

duong
03-23-2011, 10:13 PM
wouldn't graff be greater than navratilova going by the numbers? i don't follow women's tennis anyway.

yes, maybe Navratilova thinks about Nadal the way she saw Graf beat her : well, Graf was not a beautiful player like her but in the end she beat her by the numbers :lol:

maybe that's the fate of tennis : beautiful classical tennis has to be beaten by physical strength :shrug:

anyway, I will always defend Laver, Navratilova, McEnroe and Fed comparing to Nadals, Grafs and Seleses

ssin
03-23-2011, 10:40 PM
Fed is not playing bad and he is collecting points. It seems that the chase for 1st spot is giving him additional motivation. After all, he needs to break one more record ;) I wouldn't predict, but wouldn't be entirely surprised if he succeeded, he would need a bit of luck, though.

shiaben
03-23-2011, 10:50 PM
Guys...........Federer's goals are neither the olympic gold medal nor the Davis Cup.

Sure he'll give them both efforts for the heck of it. While he has the opportunity, why not? Not to mention you get points for the ATP from participating.

He won't be demoralized if he gets neither. Those are secondary priorities.

His primary priority is to get 20 slams (or more) and retire, and cross his fingers that Nadal won't reach the record. Federer is not that stupid, he doesn't underestimate Nadal at all. When he cried at the 2009 AO, he felt Nadal was up to his neck, he felt the pressure and competition.

Another primary priority would be the break Sampras's year endings at #1, but at this stage of his career, I think that's a near impossibility because Djokovic is at his prime time. He's at the finest hour of his career. Nadal is already finding new ways to become a pain in the arse for the rest of the competition. His transition at the USO 2010 made that imperative with that unreturnable pain the arse serve designed for the fiercest of competition and hard-courts.

Matt01
03-23-2011, 11:12 PM
Roger was asked about it in his presser



:lol:


Well done, Roger. With these kind of ignorant, respectless comments you're sinking more and more in my list :yeah:

DrJules
03-23-2011, 11:14 PM
yes, maybe Navratilova thinks about Nadal the way she saw Graf beat her : well, Graf was not a beautiful player like her but in the end she beat her by the numbers :lol:

maybe that's the fate of tennis : beautiful classical tennis has to be beaten by physical strength :shrug:

anyway, I will always defend Laver, Navratilova, McEnroe and Fed comparing to Nadals, Grafs and Seleses

It will interesting to see if Djokovic can do to Federer and Nadal what Lendl did to McEnroe and Connors 25 years ago; dominate with physical strength and condition and commitment and take over the number 1 spot for a long time.

abraxas21
03-23-2011, 11:32 PM
Well done, Roger. With these kind of ignorant, respectless comments you're sinking more and more in my list :yeah:

i'm sure he'll spend many sleepless nights thinking about how much he sinks in your list.

Matt01
03-23-2011, 11:39 PM
i'm sure he'll spend many sleepless nights thinking about how much he sinks in your list.


If he reads MTF, then yes he should.

recessional
03-23-2011, 11:47 PM
that wasn't the full quote, though. this is:

Q. Off of the question he just asked, one of the criticisms of you came recently from Martina Navratilova saying that she doubted whether you'd be back at the level of three or four years ago or back at No. 1. The fact it's coming from her, does that register at all for you?

ROGER FEDERER: Sure. You'd rather hear other things, you know. Maybe she missed the London World Tour Finals. I don't know. Maybe she was somewhere else climbing Kilimanjaro. I don't know. I love her. Look, I think she's been an inspiration to my wife and I always love seeing her, but if you had the microphone in front of you and you get a negative question, you get dragged into it. You have to answer it. So that's what happens. And she's in front of the microphone a lot of times, you know, like other experts, as well, and eventually you can't just say only good things. You have to also say more negative things. Then you pick up on these, and next thing you know it's like I'm being asked and then I have to answer it, which is unfortunate. I have no problem with Martina. She's allowed to say.

YouCantBeSerious
03-24-2011, 12:19 AM
No time to read 11 pages of responses here but without injuries or major upsets in early rounds of his rivals it will be difficult. That said however I feel he can still win grand slam titles. Would anyone be shocked if he found top form this summer and won Wimbledon and the U.S. Open? I don't feel a player should retire when he is still capable of winning majors.

Topspindoctor
03-24-2011, 12:24 AM
People need to wake up. Olderer is not winning anymore slams - neither is he going to become #1.

Mungo
03-24-2011, 01:47 AM
All I know is he became no.3 again, which is good for the game.

swisht4u
03-24-2011, 02:03 AM
Fed's got a lot left, hasn't bombed out early at any tournaments and has the most points since Toronto.
He just recently said he'll play better than he has also, well on that note we'll just have to see. There are areas he can improve, the serve is one area that can be improved and just needs to be worked on some. He lost some points because of it to Nole.

He's still pretty motivated and will be working hard.

Whether it's age, injuries or just not hitting the practice courts it doesn't matter.

He has shown a high level, higher than anyone else recently except Nole.
Don't expect him to lay down anytime soon.

It's not over yet, you can bet on it. :wavey:

Silvester
03-24-2011, 02:28 AM
I think his best shot is if he would have defended his AO title, but now i'm not so sure anymore. He would need to win Wimby & USO most likely

nsidhan
03-24-2011, 03:57 AM
I would like to see Roger win 2 more slams...both Wimbledon. That's it!

Xristos
03-24-2011, 04:07 AM
I doubt it.

Dmitry Verdasco
03-24-2011, 05:31 AM
I think his reign is truly over. :sad::sad::sad:

BIGMARAT
03-24-2011, 06:43 AM
No and it really doesnt matter.
He's getting older and his days at the top is really over.
But I wont count him out at wimbledon just yet to add more grandslam.

duong
03-24-2011, 08:39 AM
It will interesting to see if Djokovic can do to Federer and Nadal what Lendl did to McEnroe and Connors 25 years ago; dominate with physical strength and condition and commitment and take over the number 1 spot for a long time.

I've thought this way a long time ago : Djokovic incarnating Lendl, Fed Borg, Nadal McEnroe
... except that here McEnroe was an incarnation of a beautiful genious tennis whereas Nadal is an incarnation of physical strength in my eyes : Nadal may be more fragile than Djokovic in the end, but anyway he's much stronger physically than Nole.

Blackbriar
03-24-2011, 08:41 AM
I hate Sampras, so i hope it will happen just once. But i'm not confident.

guy in sf
03-24-2011, 11:51 PM
Sorry but Federer has passed his prime and from now on the competition gets harder for him not easier. Also as he gets beaten more often even the lower ranked guys will have more confidence against him because they see that he is not unbeatable. No matter what happens from now on Fed is already considered the GOAT by most but even the GOAT can only be on top for so long and he's been on top for a very long time now. I just don't see him regaining #1.

siffleanimaux
03-25-2011, 02:09 AM
I just want him back at World No. 1 to overtake Sampras in weeks at No. 1. Otherwise, I hope Djoker takes it.

Mjau!
03-25-2011, 02:41 AM
He most definitely will not! Nadal and Djokovic are clearly better on clay and most hard courts events. The trend is and will continue to be negative for Rogie.

Topspindoctor
03-25-2011, 11:46 AM
Sorry but Federer has passed his prime and from now on the competition gets harder for him not easier. Also as he gets beaten more often even the lower ranked guys will have more confidence against him because they see that he is not unbeatable. No matter what happens from now on Fed is already considered the GOAT by most but even the GOAT can only be on top for so long and he's been on top for a very long time now. I just don't see him regaining #1.

Are you kidding? The new generation is a collection of gutless clowns. They'll never beat Olderer until the day he retires.

nalbyfan
03-25-2011, 12:55 PM
Navratilova said he would never be N°1 again...but her comments offensed his majesty who replied that he won Master
2010...

duong
03-25-2011, 02:12 PM
Navratilova said he would never be N°1 again...but her comments offensed his majesty who replied that he won Master
2010...

this question was asked by a journalist, not by Martina, and came after another one which was about him "sinking", etc. ... I'm impressed how the journalists actually want to bury him now, that he's finished, done, he has lost all motivation (read Bodo), etc :

what's the pleasure about burying a man ?
what's the journalist's honor or "feeling of job done" for that ?

Bodo said that once a journalist questioned Sampras's sincerity when he said that he thought he could still win a slam : he says that Sampras wanted to punch the journalist out (and he says Fed is too calm comparing to that)

And yes he won another grand slam. Because life and sport are like that : it's not all or nothing, it's not the favorite who always wins, and the other ones who are spectators, it's uncertainty. And it's challengers having some hope to make better.

I really wonder : aren't there other topics than Federer in tennis ?

once they have buried him, what are they going to talk about ?

I'm impressed about all that, the topic now should be "Nadal or Djokovic" but ... no it seems :shrug:

duong
03-25-2011, 02:40 PM
Let the wise men speak : Andy Roddick

He would love to win another Grand Slam, and would love to be No. 1 in the world, but insists he can be equally happy at No. 8.

“I measure success with my own scope now,” he said. “I can sleep very comfortably as long as I know that I’ve maxed out, done everything I possibly can to win a match. I still get really pissed when I lose, but if I know I tried my best, I’m ok with that. I’m older now, and see things different. I stopped worrying about other people’s scopes when I realized, ‘Wait a minute, I’m No. 3 in the world and they’re bagging on me.”

“It seems when you become a top player, when you play well, everybody gets really excited; when you play badly, they’re ready to kind of put you away quickly . I guess that makes a better story.”

Fed about him : “Considering everybody is always so negative around him, especially in terms of the press, I think he knows what he achieved. The players know it, too, and that’s why he’s so respected. His career is not over yet.”


Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/03/24/2131148/andy-roddicks-status-remains-secure.html

Roddick about Fed this week (end of the video) :

http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2011-03-23/6635.php

« That’s ridiculous
« Whoever wants to criticize Roger for his tennis right now had better be very good at his job – very good »

luie
03-25-2011, 03:09 PM
this question was asked by a journalist, not by Martina, and came after another one which was about him "sinking", etc. ... I'm impressed how the journalists actually want to bury him now, that he's finished, done, he has lost all motivation (read Bodo), etc :

what's the pleasure about burying a man ?
what's the journalist's honor or "feeling of job done" for that ?

Bodo said that once a journalist questioned Sampras's sincerity when he said that he thought he could still win a slam : he says that Sampras wanted to punch the journalist out (and he says Fed is too calm comparing to that)

And yes he won another grand slam. Because life and sport are like that : it's not all or nothing, it's not the favorite who always wins, and the other ones who are spectators, it's uncertainty. And it's challengers having some hope to make better.

I really wonder : aren't there other topics than Federer in tennis ?

once they have buried him, what are they going to talk about ?

I'm impressed about all that, the topic now should be "Nadal or Djokovic" but ... no it seems :shrug:
Its nothing personal against federer but happens to ALL great sporting atheletes & famous individuals,it happen to Mc enroe/borg/wilander/sampras etc so fed is no exception,, all these players are victims of their own success/Prime. When they are finished with fed,they will start on nadull etc.Especially if Novak takes him out in a clay event.

abraxas21
03-25-2011, 06:12 PM
federer isnt losing any sleep over reaching number 1 again

Federer Unfazed By World No. 3 Ranking; Praises Djokovic
Miami, USA
by James Buddell
| 23.03.2011


© Getty Images
Roger Federer won back-to-back Sony Ericsson Open titles in 2005-2006.
Roger Federer insists he doesn't mind being No. 3 in the South African Airways 2011 ATP Rankings.

Speaking ahead of the Sony Ericsson Open in Miami on Wednesday, the Swiss said, "I still think I've had a great six months. I feel like I'm playing really good tennis, and right now Novak [Djokovic] is just a bit better than the rest. And that's okay.

"I've gone through phases like this on multiple occasions with Rafa [Nadal], with [Andy] Murray, with even [Andre] Agassi and [Lleyton] Hewitt and [Andy] Roddick and so forth. It's just something that's part of the game.

"I never expected myself to dominate for 15 years. I think at the top right now I think actually everybody is playing well."

Federer has a 36-10 record at Crandon Park, the venue of the ATP World Tour Masters 1000 tournament, picking up the Indian Wells-Miami title double in 2005 and 2006. Only six players in history have achieved the feat.

FedEx Reliability Zone: Masters Of The Court

"I guess it's hard to win back-to-back [ATP World Tour] Masters 1000s in general because you have a lot of good players in the early rounds," said Federer. "You have no excuse not having had enough time off, because there is enough time so you actually can get ready. It just seems like I guess here and in Indian Wells usually everybody is playing pretty well, because the season is underway for a couple of months.

"Everybody can play on hard courts, so it's not really a surface that favours a particular playing style. The South Americans have their chance, like the Europeans and the Americans have and so forth. So I think it's pretty straight forward, and that's why I think they're tough to win back-to-back.

"But then again, if you're hot, like Novak at the moment, or me back a few years ago when I won back-to-back Indian Wells and Miami, you could do it. Just because the draw falls into place, you are playing well, you are not thinking too much, and you are very just better than the rest at the moment."

Federer is scheduled to meet either Fabio Fognini or Radek Stepanek in the Miami second round.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2011/3/12/Miami-Preview-Federer-Unfazed-By-Rankings.aspx

abraxas21
04-02-2011, 12:08 AM
losing in straights to pocahontas on an hardcourt outdoors again doesn't seem like a good sign

SheepleBuster
04-02-2011, 12:10 AM
Will Federer become number 1 again?

Nope. Sorry. With Del Po back, Novak playing like a monster, and Nadal getting better, Federer is only going to drop

Jaz
04-02-2011, 12:24 AM
No.

Even for a Federer fan, I just can't see that consistency coming back.

SheepleBuster
04-02-2011, 12:32 AM
No.

Even for a Federer fan, I just can't see that consistency coming back.

Fed is not getting any younger. Every year, he will drop some more. I am a big Fed fan but you can't beat age. It will catch up to Nadal too.

ossie
04-02-2011, 08:55 AM
i think it's safe to say now that he won't.

Zagor
04-02-2011, 01:02 PM
Yeah,it's very doubtful he'll ever go back to #1 spot but I still honestly believe he has a slam or two left in him,time will tell if I'm right about that.

Hingisova
04-02-2011, 01:31 PM
When you've been to the top as long as Roger has..when you have become the "greatest" player to ever play tennis, when you're swimming with trophies, money, fame and fortune there comes a time when you have got to fall...down to #3, then 4,5,6 and probably retirement. At 30, like in all sports, it becomes more difficult to compete mainly as in Roger's case...motivation for one thing..playing with his twin daughters is likely more pleasurable than beating his opponent on the other side of the net at the moment..the man has amassed more titles, more grandslams than anybody else..he demands our outmost respect for what he has accomplished in the game..a terrific ambassador for tennis and the sport...he has become "normal" his dwindling skills prove it...will his legacy ever be surpassed? That would be a better question. My vote is "no"...so speculation about future accomplishments as a #1 contender is mute...of course not...any athlete whose been to the "top" knows its all downhill from now on...but what a glorious "ride" he had!!:worship:

Hingisova:wavey:

Federerhingis
04-02-2011, 02:59 PM
It will be very very unlikely and it does not appear to me that he will be able to reach number one again. Nadal will dominate as usual Monte Carlo and Roland, Novak will hang in tough as well on clay. However nothing in life is impossible, but Roger reaching number one seems very improbable.

Sunset of Age
04-03-2011, 05:44 AM
The answer is: very, very unlikely, unless both Rafa and Djoko are suddenly found with their legs and arms falling off.
I'm not counting on that to happen (and for the trolls ready to bash me for saying this, here's the Disclaimer: I. Do. NOT. Want. Anything. Like. That. To. Happen. Either. :wavey:)

I was very very surprised to see a lot of hatred still directed to Rafa on certain pro-Federer websites. Even rooting for Djoko against Nadal at IW for this reason. :confused:
Apparently those folks don't seem to understand that in order to regain the #1 position on the ATP ranking list, the first job to do is... regain position #2.
Hmmm? :smoke:

hee hee, guess I´m on the Fedtard Shitlist right now, just as much as I´ve been on the Rafatard Shitlist for at least three years by now. Vamos! Hopp! :crazy:

jadey
04-03-2011, 01:42 PM
no he wont

@Bonnie , shouldnt really surprise you , alot of the people who post on the RF forum are simply blindly in love with RF , and know very little about the actual game of tennis. They even proclaim they will stop watching once he retires , because they love him so much .. the fedtards are a strange bunch .

MARTINBALDRIDGE
04-03-2011, 01:49 PM
Much as I love him I can't see it happening - the game has moved on - still think he has a grand slam or two in him though.

MB

Benny_Maths
04-03-2011, 01:52 PM
no he wont

@Bonnie , shouldnt really surprise you , alot of the people who post on the RF forum are simply blindly in love with RF , and know very little about the actual game of tennis. They even proclaim they will stop watching once he retires , because they love him so much .. the fedtards are a strange bunch .

Number of slams won: 16
Number of hearts won: countless

:D

jadey
04-03-2011, 02:02 PM
Number of slams won: 16
Number of hearts won: countless

:D

very witty :D

NadalYoung
04-03-2011, 02:08 PM
Yes, but he will require assisance from assassins, if he can manage to get rid of Nadal and Djokovic without having it traced back to him then he can definitely become number one again, actually it would be almost instantaneous

abraxas21
04-03-2011, 05:23 PM
no he wont

@Bonnie , shouldnt really surprise you , alot of the people who post on the RF forum are simply blindly in love with RF , and know very little about the actual game of tennis. They even proclaim they will stop watching once he retires , because they love him so much .. the fedtards are a strange bunch .

i have seen the roger federer website and can testify to this. the nadal and djoko hate is strong. i much rather MTF as here everybody hates everybody. seems fair to me.

NADAL_GOT_THIS
04-03-2011, 06:16 PM
Tennis is better when top 3 are all trying for number one ranking so its good Federer is confident of number one!1

homogenius
04-03-2011, 09:25 PM
"Will Federer be #2 again ?" is probably a more interesting question atm.

abraxas21
04-03-2011, 09:27 PM
"Will Federer be #2 again ?" is probably a more interesting question atm.

:rolleyes:

laurie-1
04-03-2011, 10:02 PM
i have seen the roger federer website and can testify to this. the nadal and djoko hate is strong. i much rather MTF as here everybody hates everybody. seems fair to me.

:lol:

jadey
04-03-2011, 10:40 PM
[QUOTE=abraxas21;10908357]i have seen the roger federer website and can testify to this. the nadal and djoko hate is strong. i much rather MTF as here everybody hates everybody. seems fair to me.[/QUOTE


good point :lol: always good to spread the hate around

Big_Juicy
04-03-2011, 10:42 PM
"Will Federer be #2 again ?" is probably a more interesting question atm.

I think Fed's main concern should be whether or not he can stay in the top 5 by the end of the year.

MIMIC
04-03-2011, 10:44 PM
"Will Federer be #2 again ?" is probably a more interesting question atm.

:lol:

I used to think that there was a 95% (per se) chance that Federer would get to No. 1 again....but now it's more like a 30% chance.

Not very likely, but not out of the realm of possibility.

guga2120
04-03-2011, 10:50 PM
"Will Federer be #2 again ?" is probably a more interesting question atm.

This

Saxoner
04-03-2011, 10:55 PM
I'm a huge Federer fan, but I don't think he'll regain that position.

The important question is will he win a slam again? That I think he will. Perhaps even several...

ufiors
06-03-2011, 08:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8BPvhysqSI
:worship::worship::worship::worship:

OF COURSE HE CAN!!

finishingmove
06-03-2011, 08:44 PM
federer will probably win RG, W and USO in this form

nole has to focus on the masters and maybe he amasses enough points to be #1 at the end of the year

it will be interesting

CCBH
06-03-2011, 08:45 PM
If he wins 2 of the next 3 Slams, I am guessing he should have a great chance. This RG final could be huge.

MaxPower
06-03-2011, 08:47 PM
Well it would be amazing if he did it just for a few weeks to clinch that record from Sampras. I'm rooting for him to do it. Also for the 20 slam goal. Both are possible but very very hard.

Chase Visa
06-03-2011, 11:43 PM
French Open only the beginning for a new streak http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2761/ph34r.gif (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/89/ph34r.gif/)

Silvester
06-04-2011, 12:20 AM
he would need to win AT LEAST two of the next 3 slams and defend his points between wimby & USO or hope that nadal & Novak go out early at both Wimby and USO

Sauletekis
06-04-2011, 01:08 AM
federer will probably win RG, W and USO in this form

nole has to focus on the masters and maybe he amasses enough points to be #1 at the end of the year

it will be interesting

Aren't you forgetting the REAL and TODAY number one?

nalbyfan
06-04-2011, 11:58 AM
Maybe N°2 but certainly not N°1 again

henke007
06-04-2011, 12:01 PM
He has a real chance at nr 2 for now. He needs to win W or US OPEN and make the final in one of them aswell to have a chance at nr 1.. And a Masters win + final in Cincy/Canada( or Shanghai etc..

dodo
06-04-2011, 12:08 PM
with his current form, hell yes.
realistically? who knows how long it will last. certainly in with a chance though. probably needs to happen around USO (which he will win, obviously, thankyouverymuch), he has a great point streak going after that, not much to gain, lots to defend.

MaxPower
06-04-2011, 12:24 PM
Hmm i checked his ranking history and it was a shame with his spring. He needed a Master 1000 win or two and it would have looked pretty good now. After all S in AO, and he is defending only QF in both RG AND Wimbledon. Logically if he wins both then he got the shot! he has 1500 from WTF after all so this year could be his last window for world number 1.

He needs one of the heroes like Soderling, Berdych, Ferrer, Melzer, Monfils or what not to take Nadal or Djokovic out in QF in Wimbledon just like Soderling and Berdych sabotaged his own nr1 hopes in 2010. Then win himself and he pretty much got it!

Sunset of Age
06-04-2011, 12:31 PM
Funny to see some folks thinking Rog win RG/Wimbledon and/or reach finals everywhere - not to mention, defend his tons of points he racked up in the latter five months of the year - is a realistic idea.

Apparently they believe Federer will manage to maintain his current form for another six months or so. I'd really like to see it happen, but reality tells me that Fed's form has been rather inconsistent the past two, three years - not even to mention that he's perfectly capable of playing a string of perfect matches in a tournament, only to let it be followed by a stinker the very next day...

Time for a reality check eh?
(NB: if he DOES manage to get back #1, you're all very welcome to bump this post and laugh at me. :))

dodo
06-04-2011, 12:34 PM
after yesterday, people kind of believe he can do a lot of things, if he really wants to. and they are not wrong.
but nobody is exactly claiming it to be highly likely scenario.

DrJules
06-04-2011, 12:39 PM
Very unlikely.

nalbyfan
06-04-2011, 12:39 PM
It'a not because he beat an exhausted Nole that he'll win RG or another slam..
let's be realist : he's almost 30 and has been declining during the past 2 years
RG 2011 is probably a flash in the dark, nothing more

Sham Kay
06-04-2011, 01:05 PM
Possibly number 2 for a while. But I'd literally bow down and pray to an effigy of the man if he got back to number 1. Won't do anything else though, I'm not crazy.

LawrenceOfTennis
06-04-2011, 02:11 PM
Depends on this summer....

Roamed
06-04-2011, 02:22 PM
I still think no. It's not in his control, it depends also on Nole and Rafa both having dips in form. The fact of the matter is that he's got a lot to defend for the entire hardcourt season, given that he made at least the semis at every tournament he played, and now he has a very narrow window in which to gain points. And the law of Federer over the last year or so has been that being in bad form, or good form, is no guarantee that he can carry it into the big tournaments. So he can have great tournaments like the FO now without having done much in the preceding claycourt season, or he can go out in three against Nole like in the AO despite being on this great run.

But it doesn't matter really, 285 weeks on top is not bad at all ;) :yeah:

abraxas21
06-29-2011, 09:24 PM
everyday it looks more unlikely

if murray wins wimby, federer might end the year as number 4 considering all he has to defend in the indoor season

Mungo
06-29-2011, 09:26 PM
Will he be no.2 again?

abraxas21
06-30-2011, 02:56 AM
yah, i think he can get to no. 2 again

Silvester
06-30-2011, 03:17 AM
not this year. I suppose he can get to #2 of Rafa DOESN'T win Wimby and Fed wins USO. #1 is out of the question this year.

nalbyfan
06-30-2011, 12:33 PM
Goat cheese won't win USO....he'll be N°4 one day, then N°5 and so on till he retires

Bilbo
06-30-2011, 06:00 PM
Will he be no.2 again?

he won't imo

spencercarlos
06-30-2011, 06:48 PM
He just missed his golden chance of recent times, had he won Wimbledon he would have been number one... But he does not deserve at this point IMO.