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What's right about Nadal?

Luinir
11-27-2011, 04:22 AM
I think this is the right question. Almost everyting is wrong about Nadal, so it's harder to find a right thing about Nadal right now.

Well, i think he is still looking good. Else?

SetSampras
11-27-2011, 04:28 AM
Hes lost some thickness to the hair.. Might be about time to shave his head like the rest of us baldies. Hes on his way to that "classic horseshoe pattern"

shiaben
11-27-2011, 04:44 AM
No idea. Just the footwork remains.

Hopefully 2012 will be different.

If not, then yeah, he'll be done, unfortunately.

bishi
11-27-2011, 04:50 AM
Can't run down everything for every match and expect to be able to finish at the end of the year with quality. It is why defensive style has to be supplemented with aggression.

n8
11-27-2011, 04:52 AM
Nadal will be fine. He will most likely win the Davis Cup and will be a force in Australia. Several things were working against Nadal in London: lack of recent match practice, tiring season, and of course the fact that it was indoors. Plus his group turned out to be the tougher one.

Shinoj
11-27-2011, 05:06 AM
Field has caught up Finally Finally.. Nothing is wrong with him

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
11-27-2011, 05:13 AM
hmmmm

his forehand is still a good shot
his wde serve to the BH still works
his slice is a better shot (still needs improvement of course)
he has good hands at the net-
he's still fast
he still fights
he still goes through his ocd motions- bounce ball- pull on ass- wipe eye brows- stop for a second- then serve

...........has nole destoryed his mental game?

Start da Game
11-27-2011, 05:49 AM
he will be fine by australian open......

viruzzz
11-27-2011, 05:55 AM
he will be fine by australian open......

I think he will be fine, but if you say so, he'll lose in R1.
You had been saying wrong things. And what happen is just the opposite.
Over and over again!

You're like a living unforced error.

Sri
11-27-2011, 06:05 AM
Should tank smaller events. Play less matches.

Play 3 mini seasons per year, like Olderer does.

Mae
11-27-2011, 06:07 AM
Nadal will be fine. He will most likely win the Davis Cup and will be a force in Australia. Several things were working against Nadal in London: lack of recent match practice, tiring season, and of course the fact that it was indoors. Plus his group turned out to be the tougher one.

Not to mention he had a shoulder injury before London and got a case of food poisoning while in London. Great looking Avatar BTW :)

Start da Game
11-27-2011, 06:10 AM
Should tank smaller events. Play less matches.

Play 3 mini seasons per year, like Olderer does.

yup, accurate suggestion......except chennai/doha, he does not need to take any other 250 event seriously......except barcelona, he does not need to take any other 500 tournament seriously.......except montecarlo, rome and montreal, he does not need to take any other masters tournament seriously......if he follows that routine every season, he is still good enough for 5 more great seasons......

he is above all those useless tournaments......grandslams, davis cup titles and olympics is all that needs to be targeted and conquered......

Start da Game
11-27-2011, 06:16 AM
Not to mention he had a shoulder injury before London and got a case of food poisoning while in London. Great looking Avatar BTW :)

concurred......a fit nadal is almost impossible to overcome in a best of 5 sets format unless your name is djokovic 2.0......i think he will be fit and raring to go by january and when that is the case i just can't fathom anybody taking him out in australia......we will see, he first needs to make sure he doesn't ruin his health and fitness right before the AO like he did this year by playing doha being semi fit and with flu......

venky91
11-27-2011, 06:34 AM
He needs to win them coin tosses.

Mountaindewslave
11-27-2011, 06:58 AM
concurred......a fit nadal is almost impossible to overcome in a best of 5 sets format unless your name is djokovic 2.0......i think he will be fit and raring to go by january and when that is the case i just can't fathom anybody taking him out in australia......we will see, he first needs to make sure he doesn't ruin his health and fitness right before the AO like he did this year by playing doha being semi fit and with flu......

Start da Game it would not hurt you to have a more humble attitude like your favorite player does. His excuse is not always that 'if I am 100% I am unbeatable in GS play' it's something like 'the opponent was just too good today' or 'there are many good players who can beat me on any given day'.

I love Nadal but it's a little bit of a disservice to him to act as though he is unbeatable when healthy and doesn't have to put in the hard yards and will never struggle, because it definitely is harder than it looks.

i hope he improves his form and does well in Australia, but I don't, nor does Nadal for that matter, think that he is unbeatable when healthy. it would be wise of you to recognize that that kind of attitude is just a fallacy to try and make yourself more secure in the condition/case of which Nadal loses so that you will have a justifiable excuse, i.e. 'if only he was healthy', which in the end will only hinder your ability to have a clear tennis perspective.

MuzzahLovah
11-27-2011, 08:18 AM
I think this is the right question. Almost everyting is wrong about Nadal, so it's harder to find a right thing about Nadal right now.

Well, i think he is still looking good. Else?

:haha:

HKz
11-27-2011, 08:34 AM
As far as the thread is concerned, the positive is Nadal isn't Federer's age yet. Seriously though, he needs a slight revamp for his game. It is becoming more difficult for him to sustain his play style throughout the year. Of course the slams are the only concern, and he did make 3 finals in a row only losing to Novak, but things are not looking exactly too promising considering his play outside of the slams. Those matches will always falter first and then the slams will creep in sooner rather than later. Fact is, he needs to play more aggressively, but similar to Murray, it just isn't naturally their playing style especially for Nadal with his unconventional style so it'll be an uphill battle for him either way.

One thing I really dislike about Nadal though, is how mentally he does get down after some tournaments which is part of the reason why I think Federer is so great. Sure, Federer lost so many heartbreak matches against Nadal throughout the years, but he has always come back very strongly. Nadal on the other hand, when he loses an important match, sometimes you can tell it is lingering in the back of his mind for several months and it takes him quite a long time (pretty much until the clay season) to sort things out again. Like Wimbledon 2007 for example. After he lost in the final, he was quite poor honestly for literally the rest of the year and pretty much the first quarter of 2008.

Nixer
11-27-2011, 09:01 AM
What's wrong with world #2?
WTF is wrong with the rest of the field then??

He's had such relative slumps before, nothing new. Once he sorts out how to start playing offensively again, things will build up on that.

EliSter
11-27-2011, 11:47 AM
fail is you, utter moron......scrawling out of the hole sensing now that your god is about to win some chicken shit title......get the fuck out of this thread, get out......

Gota agree...Fedtards are crawling back again when their God is wining. NID.

Start da Game
11-27-2011, 11:51 AM
Start da Game it would not hurt you to have a more humble attitude like your favorite player does. His excuse is not always that 'if I am 100% I am unbeatable in GS play' it's something like 'the opponent was just too good today' or 'there are many good players who can beat me on any given day'.

I love Nadal but it's a little bit of a disservice to him to act as though he is unbeatable when healthy and doesn't have to put in the hard yards and will never struggle, because it definitely is harder than it looks.

i hope he improves his form and does well in Australia, but I don't, nor does Nadal for that matter, think that he is unbeatable when healthy. it would be wise of you to recognize that that kind of attitude is just a fallacy to try and make yourself more secure in the condition/case of which Nadal loses so that you will have a justifiable excuse, i.e. 'if only he was healthy', which in the end will only hinder your ability to have a clear tennis perspective.

hellooooo, thanks for your suggestion but i am not taking it......i am only stating facts.......

who the hell was able to beat him this very year in a best of 5 sets tennis match apart from djokovic 2.0 when he is fit? nobody.......and all that with a fallen backhand, weak serve, weak return of serve and ordinary movement(for his standards) right from montecarlo to world toast finals......

come back and tell me all this when somebody other than djokovic beats him in a best of 5 sets match......

Start da Game
11-27-2011, 11:56 AM
Gota agree...Fedtards are crawling back again when their God is wining. NID.

concurred......taking over a nadal thread and attacking his fans reflects only barbaric behavior......luinir started this thread with a good intention and look at these cowards trying to derail the thread......

BroTree123
11-27-2011, 11:57 AM
concurred......taking over a nadal thread and attacking his fans reflects only barbaric behavior......luinir started this thread with a good intention and look at these cowards trying to derail the thread......

I like Rafa too, but please tone it down. Your getting annoying :o.

Start da Game
11-27-2011, 12:13 PM
No idea. Just the footwork remains.

Hopefully 2012 will be different.

If not, then yeah, he'll be done, unfortunately.

the story changes a little in 2012......one bad phase of six months does not wash away all his strengths forever......

Egreen
11-27-2011, 12:13 PM
The only right thing is despite his subpar game this year, his consistency at the slams remains. Think Fed in 2008.

Luinir
11-27-2011, 02:22 PM
I think he improved his volleying skills A LOT.

Luinir
11-27-2011, 02:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KevRcpMzr7A&feature=channel_video_title

Best volley of the season BY FAR.

samanosuke
11-27-2011, 02:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KevRcpMzr7A&feature=channel_video_title

Best volley of the season BY FAR.

then you saw A LOT of volleying this season

Naudio Spanlatine
11-27-2011, 02:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KevRcpMzr7A&feature=channel_video_title

Best volley of the season BY FAR.

:worship: yes :worship:

Clay Death
11-27-2011, 02:36 PM
I think this is the right question. Almost everyting is wrong about Nadal, so it's harder to find a right thing about Nadal right now.

Well, i think he is still looking good. Else?



excellent thread.

there is a lot that is not going his way but its his fault. he brought it about.

that is why i am so pissed at him. he made it happen.

he can also fix it but he doesnt bother fixing it.

Naudio Spanlatine
11-27-2011, 02:38 PM
well his looks and his Xisca can be the right thing now:inlove:

:secret:at first i was very very jealous of the gf i didnt even want to look at her :sobbing:

Clay Death
11-27-2011, 02:40 PM
bottom line: he has to roll up his sleeves and go to work after davis cup.

he needs to focus better, train better, and scehdule better.

and he needs major work on his fitness. that will take care of a lot of things.

memo to the clay warrior:

ditch the exos on hard courts moron. and practice more on clay if you want your consistency off the ground back.

also ditch the other meaningless hard court events pronto.

fran70
11-27-2011, 02:49 PM
Nadal looked slower than he usually is and his shots powerless on this WTF. But the guy still has a fire on his heart that not so many players on this days have. So I wouldn`t underestimate him and definitely will be a big threat as long as he is fit enough and keeps that spirit.

But I agree with some of the previous posters that he should reorganize his schedule as he hasn`t got the stamina of years ago.

Clay Death
11-27-2011, 02:55 PM
affirmative fran.

AndyNonomous
11-27-2011, 02:57 PM
It was just over a year ago, Nadal won on his least favorite grand slam surface (USO), with the loss of a single set THROUGH THE WHOLE TOURNAMENT. He served at 118mph in the 2010 USO final, and 107 mph in the 2011 USO final.

If uncle Toni can remember where he put that magic grip change, Nadal will win the "golden slam" in 2012.

SetSampras
11-27-2011, 03:18 PM
Not worried at all about Nadal winning the French and WImbledon next year.. No way.. Nole defends his wimbledon title. I think the big question is can he grab a hardcourt slam next year.


As far as Non slam events go? Nadal is reaching towards the end of his career.. Anything non slam related outside the YEC really means nothing.. Its all about increasing the slam count

selyoink
11-27-2011, 03:32 PM
The ass pick still seems to be in good form.

And in all seriousness his volleying is as good as its been.

Luinir
11-27-2011, 04:19 PM
You are still his biggest tard :rolleyes:

Me?

Clay Death
11-27-2011, 04:21 PM
You are still his biggest tard :rolleyes:

not necessary.

why is it a crime to be passionate about one`s players?

leave luinir be.

helvet empire
11-27-2011, 04:29 PM
nothiiiiiiiin'!:cool::cool::cool:

Ben.
11-27-2011, 04:46 PM
AndyNonomous' not so subtle hints of some sort of performance enhancement just make no sense. Seems more suspicious to start serving well and then suddenly stop than continuing to do so, surely? There was a thread here last year that compared his USO'10 serving to Wimbledon over the years and there wasn't much difference anyway.

What is right about Nadal right now? Not much. The awful state of his game aside, in the pressers he has looked and sounded pretty down. He has an important weekend coming up where he can start to dig himself out of this hole. Two big matches against guys who have given him a lot of trouble in the past and will have only grown in confidence seeing what happened this week. If he gets that done he will hopefully be on his way.

Also as Clay Death said, no exhos in the off season please. Last year he apparantly had no rest which lead to the disastrous start to the year. He needs to choose his schedule very carefully for 2012 and just concentrate on staying fit and getting back to playing good tennis. Still, don't expect any titles until the clay season.

Clay Death
11-27-2011, 04:54 PM
AndyNonomous' not so subtle hints of some sort of performance enhancement just make no sense. Seems more suspicious to start serving well and then suddenly stop than continuing to do so, surely? There was a thread here last year that compared his USO'10 serving to Wimbledon over the years and there wasn't much difference anyway.

What is right about Nadal right now? Not much. The awful state of his game aside, in the pressers he has looked and sounded pretty down. He has an important weekend coming up where he can start to dig himself out of this hole. Two big matches against guys who have given him a lot of trouble in the past and will have only grown in confidence seeing what happened this week. If he gets that done he will hopefully be on his way.

Also as Clay Death said, no exhos in the off season please. Last year he apparantly had no rest which lead to the disastrous start to the year. He needs to choose his schedule very carefully for 2012 and just concentrate on staying fit and getting back to playing good tennis. Still, don't expect any titles until the clay season.



he is going to south america after davis cup for some exos on hard courts.

and then he wonders why he is getting his ass kicked over and over again in tournaments.

Crisstti
11-27-2011, 09:36 PM
I don't think Rafa has scheduled any exos after the DC. There had been talk of an exo with Nalvandián, I believe, in Argentina, but I understand it isn't going to happen.

Also, I doubt playing a few exos during the year is much of a problem, if at all. i do agree though that he should schedule better. Like resting a week before glans slams, for example.

The only right thing is despite his subpar game this year, his consistency at the slams remains. Think Fed in 2008.

Very good point.