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WTF SF: Federer def. Ferrer 7-5 6-3

GSMnadal
11-26-2011, 03:39 PM
Good match... :o

dodo
11-26-2011, 03:40 PM
federer barely awake and clowning it up all over the court. still good enough to beat ferrer....
worst match of the week by some margin.

castle007
11-26-2011, 03:40 PM
7th WTF final :cool:

SheepleBuster
11-26-2011, 03:40 PM
Poor Murray. Hahahahahahahahahaha

sexybeast
11-26-2011, 03:40 PM
Horrible match by both, Ferrer simply cant beat Federer even when Federer is at his worst!

Federer probably with more UEs than he had the whole week and lived on his serve and some good volley skills, but he is in his 100th final and he equals Edberg's 806 wins.

If he wants title nr 70 and to pass Edberg with 807 wins he surely needs to take his level up a notch from this disaster!

shadows
11-26-2011, 03:41 PM
Disappointing match, Fed seemed to wake up a bit in the second set so it still looks like the tournament is there for him to take.

SetSampras
11-26-2011, 03:41 PM
Mug match.. But not surprised. Ferrer has no business in a SF here. Too bad Nole and Rafa and Murray didn't show up and just went through the motions. Shitty WTF this year. Last year was miles better

Myrre
11-26-2011, 03:42 PM
Overtakes Murray as nr.3

nobama
11-26-2011, 03:42 PM
This match is dedicated to the British press. :devil:

scarecrows
11-26-2011, 03:42 PM
crap first set, better in the second when he started really hitting the ball and control the rallies

alter ego
11-26-2011, 03:43 PM
Don't understand why you are so pessimistic. Ferrer is the 3rd best returner this year and he had no break chances today. This was very solid from Federer. At the end of the match he was playing well from the baseline.

manadrainer
11-26-2011, 03:43 PM
Shankerer till 5-5 in the first set, upped his level enough to take it. Ferrer deserved at least a tiebreak (maybe more) in that first set though. In the second set I'd say an Averagerer was good enough.

I hope Fed ups his level tomorrow or it won't be enough.

nobama
11-26-2011, 03:43 PM
Fed's 100th final and going for his 70th title. Wow. :worship:

RogerFedererNo1
11-26-2011, 03:43 PM
Don't understand why are you so pessimistic. Ferrer is the 3rd best returner this year and he had no break chances. This was very solid from Federer. At the end of the match he was playing well.

Federer even won 16/17 points on serve in the 2nd set.

Kworb
11-26-2011, 03:44 PM
LOL this on court shit. He hasn't won the tournament yet.

viruzzz
11-26-2011, 03:44 PM
Fed didn't played so good.
If this match was vs Djokovic, it could be a very different story.
But... No Nole, he played like shit and he didn't earned a spot in the SF.

So... Roger for the 7th time in the Final. And n° 3 of the world again. Gunning for number 1 next year (yeah, it's true, and you know it... And you're so angry about this).

Ok... Fed broke so many records this last 3 months, maybe it's time for another one tomorrow :D

Imperfect Angel
11-26-2011, 03:45 PM
I fear for Federer's chances for tomorrow's win. Either Berdych or Tsonga will be even more threatening than Ferrer. Better get some good rest Fed.

TheRafaelNadal
11-26-2011, 03:48 PM
100th Final for Goderer

green25814
11-26-2011, 03:48 PM
Federer will beat Tsonga/Berdych easily.

Dini
11-26-2011, 03:50 PM
Taking his chances at the net and serving well was enough to make it comfortable in the end but this match was of absolutely dire quality all in all. :help:

It also really says a lot about this match-up. Even when Fed had one of his worst days from the back of the court, he was still ahead throughout - if not by score, then mentally as seen by that 4*-5 six deuce game where Pics faltered on easy shots to go ahead.

I'm sure it will leave a bitter feeling in his mouth ending the regular season with two disappointing defeats but Ferrer should still be proud of his year and the effort he's put in this tournament.

GOAT = Fed
11-26-2011, 03:52 PM
Federer started off decent, then after 2 games difted off and it became a match of grinding it out. Then as the second set went on, Roger became better and better. This level isn't going to cut it against a fired up Tsonga/Berdych.

samanosuke
11-26-2011, 03:53 PM
In the first set Fed was as crappy as can be crappy . Better in second . Tomorrow, If he thinks to step on the court in this Clownerer mode, it's better to stay in looker, it won't be enough

Sunset of Age
11-26-2011, 03:54 PM
First set was hilariously bad, a genuine trainwreck from the both of them up until 5-5. Official stats showed around 30 UEs for the both of them in that set alone, but heavens, you might also double that score. :help:
Most definitely one of the worst sets of tennis between two top-10 players of the entire season. :bowdown:

After taking the first set Federer upped his game, surely not anything near to his best level but enough 'to get the job done' nicely, Ferrer's already weak serving letting him down more-and-more and finally Fed was able to take advantage of it.

Very wobbly affair indeed, and in case Tsonga or even Berdych manage to get near to a decent level of theirs, this kind of stuff from Fed won't cut it for him tomorrow. That said, I hope that this was Fed's traditional stinker match in course of a tournament and that he'll step it up big time tomorrow. Allez, Fed! And :hug: David for a fantastic, very consistent season. If only that serve of his would improve...

Very nice words from Federer to David in his post-match interview. "He's done very well, and the season isn't over for him yet. He may take the DC next week and I hope he will". :hearts: :D

tripwires
11-26-2011, 03:54 PM
Very happy Roger's through with the #3 spot as the cherry on top, but obviously he's gonna need to play better from the baseline to win tomorrow. This result was never really in doubt though I was slightly worried at 4-5 in the first set. He stepped it up majorly in the second set - he served brilliantly and played well at the net. Ferrer, solid defence as usual, getting everything back, but it wasn't enough. The subpar serving certainly didn't help him.

But how good was Ferrer's passing shot off Roger's backhand (I believe it was) volley??? Roger should never have played that stupid drop shot but Ferrer's passing shot deserved a standing ovation.

AlterBridge
11-26-2011, 03:55 PM
Fed got lucky in this years wtf. To play Ferrer for a spot in the final is a joke. And they put him first, then Tsonga - Berdych most likely will be 3 hour thriler...

samanosuke
11-26-2011, 03:57 PM
Only positive thing from this match is volleying . Fed doesn't look sharp as he needs to be, don't know is it fatigue or what but can smell an upset tomorrow

KoOlMaNsEaN
11-26-2011, 03:57 PM
Roger's serve is what kept him in front in this match, his ground game was sloppy all round. No matter because he's 1 win away from a 2nd straight WTF Title :bounce:

EddieNero
11-26-2011, 03:58 PM
Worst match of the year between Top 5 players easily.
Pretty sure Fed plays about 10 times better tomorrow.

andres111
11-26-2011, 03:58 PM
King Roger :worship:

Saberq
11-26-2011, 03:59 PM
Is Roger number 3 now ?

samanosuke
11-26-2011, 03:59 PM
Is Roger number 3 now ?

affirmative

MrChopin
11-26-2011, 04:01 PM
Does this mean Fed ends the season as #3?

samanosuke
11-26-2011, 04:01 PM
Does this mean Fed ends the season as #3?

no

sexybeast
11-26-2011, 04:05 PM
I fear a consistent Berdych from the baseline in the final, Tsonga I think Federer can keep at a distance with his serve if he plays bad but Berdych hitting good form will be difficult for this Federer.

Either way it would be fun to have Tsonga/Berdych win a big title.

castle007
11-26-2011, 04:09 PM
I forgot that this is Federer's 100th final. Incredible!

chenx15
11-26-2011, 04:14 PM
Mug match.. But not surprised. Ferrer has no business in a SF here. Too bad Nole and Rafa and Murray didn't show up and just went through the motions. Shitty WTF this year. Last year was miles better

as a fed fan stfu. but as a tennis fan, you are absolutely correct last year was unpredictable to the end

martinatreue
11-26-2011, 04:15 PM
Roger did look a bit lackadaisical or even a bit lazy until when he needed to step it up. Nevertheless, I feel this board does not realize that even in this sloppy match that Federer had some insane volleys. His ability to pick up these volleys off his shoelaces is still jaw dropping. Basically Federer has set the standard so high but he is not going to play every match with the same mental focus. I still think that tomorrow he has a great chance to refocus and peak in time for the finals. I mean it took him three sets to take out Tsonga but then we he walked out against Rafa he played like a beast. He will know that he will need to work hard in the finals against either Tsonga or Berdych.

MuzzahLovah
11-26-2011, 04:16 PM
Yet again, Fed faces a tired Berdych or Tsonga for the title. Cakewalkerer strikes again. You know the tournament is a joke when his toughest match was against Fish.

nsidhan
11-26-2011, 04:17 PM
Fed has a habit of taking his opponents for granted if he has a good W/L record against them. Today was a classic example of that. But he knows that his opponents tomorrow will be dangerous so hopefully he won't be in clown mode.

nsidhan
11-26-2011, 04:18 PM
Tough match to watch since Pics is one of my favs. He did this upon himself by losing to Berdych! Anyways...good year Pics. Hopefully you will win at least one Masters 1000 next year. :yeah:

henke007
11-26-2011, 04:20 PM
Relaxerer feat Serverer didn't face any bp.s.

henke007
11-26-2011, 04:21 PM
Yet again, Fed faces a tired Berdych or Tsonga for the title. Cakewalkerer strikes again. You know the tournament is a joke when his toughest match was against Fish.

Look who's talking :o:haha:

MuzzahLovah
11-26-2011, 04:22 PM
Fed got lucky in this years wtf. To play Ferrer for a spot in the final is a joke. And they put him first, then Tsonga - Berdych most likely will be 3 hour thriler...

Anything to help out old bones.

alter ego
11-26-2011, 04:24 PM
Yet again, Fed faces a tired Berdych or Tsonga for the title. Cakewalkerer strikes again. You know the tournament is a joke when his toughest match was against Fish.

Shame on Roger for beating Nadull 6-3 6-0. Should have won 7-6 7-5 to make the tournament more valuable.

BTW your loser has finished the year ranked 4th for the 4th year in a row. Stil slamless. :haha:

tripwires
11-26-2011, 04:27 PM
Yet again, Fed faces a tired Berdych or Tsonga for the title. Cakewalkerer strikes again. You know the tournament is a joke when his toughest match was against Fish.

Roger takes the #3 spot. :wavey:

henke007
11-26-2011, 04:28 PM
Yeah Tennis def won with Murray ending nr 4, his Asia swing sure was one big cakewalk as was his 2 Masters titles this year where Ferrer and an injured Nole was his Final opponent, fkin lucky to be nr 4.

Bagelicious
11-26-2011, 04:29 PM
:banana:

Nirjhor
11-26-2011, 04:32 PM
Congratulations to Roger for reaching 100th Final match of his career. :) Not a good match though. Now please, win this tournament.

Pics :hug: a good tournament for him. :)

Fed got lucky in this years wtf. To play Ferrer for a spot in the final is a joke. And they put him first, then Tsonga - Berdych most likely will be 3 hour thriler...

No, he's not 100% lucky. If he faced Djokovic or Murray in SF, he would destroy them(if he couldn't destroy them then at least he would try with his 100% to win the match which he didn't against Fish Or Pics) as same as he destroyed Rafa. You can get the answer if you look at those matches where he didn't play against a big player. He just doesn't have the interest in wasting his energy against less bigger player. In this regard, I can remind you of the last year's WTF. :)

MuzzahLovah
11-26-2011, 04:35 PM
Shame on Roger for beating Nadull 6-3 6-0. Should have won 7-6 7-5 to make the tournament more valuable.

BTW your loser has finished the year ranked 4th for the 4th year in a row. Stil slamless. :haha:

How pathetic, to celebrate another's injury? Old bones may win the Golden slam next year, but he's still a classless ****. How could anyone be a fan of such a petty, obsessive fool? :o

viruzzz
11-26-2011, 04:35 PM
Yet again, Fed faces a tired Berdych or Tsonga for the title. Cakewalkerer strikes again. You know the tournament is a joke when his toughest match was against Fish.

:wavey:
There should be a rule "Fans of a slamless player can't talk about a tournament that player never won".
It only counts for slamless players, so, if you're a Johansson fan you cant talk everything you want.

Saberq
11-26-2011, 04:37 PM
best part of Fed being number 3 is that AO draw will once again be an original Fed-Nole,Nadal-Murray

MuzzahLovah
11-26-2011, 04:37 PM
:wavey:
There should be a rule "Fans of a slamless player can't talk about a tournament that player never won".
It only counts for slamless players, so, if you're a Johansson fan you cant talk everything you want.

There isn't, luckily. :wavey: Joke tournament for a joke winner. :o

henke007
11-26-2011, 04:39 PM
Atleast he def Ferrer in str8s playing on 50% :spit: in a BIG event...:wavey:

MuzzahLovah
11-26-2011, 04:39 PM
best part of Fed being number 3 is that AO draw will once again be an original Fed-Nole,Nadal-Murray

It was going to be that way anyways. They've been ranked many different combos over the years, but always had the same semis set up.

atennisfan
11-26-2011, 04:40 PM
best part of Fed being number 3 is that AO draw will once again be an original Fed-Nole,Nadal-Murray

I think at least two of those names won't even get to the semis.

tripwires
11-26-2011, 04:40 PM
How pathetic, to celebrate another's injury? Old bones may win the Golden slam next year, but he's still a classless ****. How could anyone be a fan of such a petty, obsessive fool? :o

:haha: :haha: :haha: Look. Who's. Talking.

After reading posts from people like SetSampras, Start da Game, Topspindoctor and MIMIC, I have to say you are quite honestly the most bitter and obsessive Fed hater I've ever come across. And you're calling HIM petty and obsessive? :haha: Seriously, I think you need to get a life. It might make you a happier person.

samanosuke
11-26-2011, 04:40 PM
best part of Fed being number 3 is that AO draw will once again be an original Fed-Nole,Nadal-Murray

best part of Fed being number 3 is that we don't need to use the term big 4 anymore

Sunset of Age
11-26-2011, 04:41 PM
best part of Fed being number 3 is that AO draw will once again be an original Fed-Nole,Nadal-Murray

Nonsense, but keep believing in that. :wavey:

henke007
11-26-2011, 04:42 PM
best part of Fed being number 3 is that we don't need to use the term big 4 anymore

:worship:

Delpo to step up next year and the cakedraws to end for Pushray, lets pray together.:angel:

viruzzz
11-26-2011, 04:42 PM
There isn't, luckily. :wavey: Joke tournament for a joke winner. :o

Stop trolling, here you have something more funny to do:
http://andymurrayometer.com/

Or if you don't like you can bounce the ball!
http://tenis-tenerife.com/images/tennis_ball-1019.jpg

Look! A ball! Bounce it boy!
Bring me the ball, boy! :D

Sunset of Age
11-26-2011, 04:43 PM
How pathetic, to celebrate another's injury? Old bones may win the Golden slam next year, but he's still a classless ****. How could anyone be a fan of such a petty, obsessive fool? :o

Please tell me where Federer has 'celebrated' another's injury, thanks.

Sorry mate, but these kind of posts put you in the ranks of SdG, Topspindoctor, SetSampras et al. :rolleyes:

Sophocles
11-26-2011, 04:44 PM
There isn't, luckily. :wavey: Joke tournament for a joke winner. :o

Your posts are worthless. You are worthless. Please fuck off.

On topic, while I have no time for the Fed-haters' pathetic excuses for Roger's wins, this was certainly an occasion when past history, "aura", & match-up dynamics got to Federer's opponent. In the first set Ferrer was doing an excellent job dominating the baseline rallies with inside-out forehands to Fed's backhand, and he had Roger on the ropes in that 4-5 game, but threw his chances away with crappy errors. After that he seemed to lose belief.

Fed will need to step it up tomorrow, but if we know that, we can bet Federer knows it too.

tripwires
11-26-2011, 04:45 PM
Please tell me where Federer has 'celebrated' another's injury, thanks.

Sorry mate, but these kind of posts put you in the ranks of SdG, Topspindoctor, SetSampras et al. :rolleyes:

I prefer their posts to MuzzahLovah's. At least they're entertaining, especially SdG. MuzzahLovah is just full of bitterness and hate. Quite sad, really.

Saberq
11-26-2011, 04:46 PM
MuzzahLovah is just pissed at Fed talking some trash about Andy a while back give a guy a break .....

MrChopin
11-26-2011, 04:47 PM
How pathetic, to celebrate another's injury? Old bones may win the Golden slam next year, but he's still a classless ****. How could anyone be a fan of such a petty, obsessive fool? :o

Because he wins slams in real life, not on xbox.

tripwires
11-26-2011, 04:47 PM
MuzzahLovah is just pissed at Fed talking some trash about Andy a while back give a guy a break .....

That was REALLY a while back. He/she has no business calling Fed "obsessive" if he/she is STILL talking about it until now.

rickcastle
11-26-2011, 04:49 PM
MuzzahLovah is just pissed at Fed talking some trash about Andy a while back give a guy a break .....

He/she should really stop obsessing about Federer's words and let Murray's tennis "do the talking" ;)

viruzzz
11-26-2011, 04:51 PM
That was REALLY a while back. He/she has no business calling Fed "obsessive" if he/she is STILL talking about it until now.

MuzzahLovah is a girl?! :eek:

OMG I can't tell a girl to bounce the ball, they're gonna call me sexist and they're gonna ban me again. Sh33t! :(:tape:

solowyn
11-26-2011, 04:52 PM
best part of Fed being number 3 is that we don't need to use the term big 4 anymore
:rolls: Immense.

GOAT = Fed
11-26-2011, 04:56 PM
Yet again, Fed faces a tired Berdych or Tsonga for the title. Cakewalkerer strikes again. You know the tournament is a joke when his toughest match was against Fish.

The same can be said for the whole of Murray's Asian swing.

So please stop.

GSMnadal
11-26-2011, 04:56 PM
best part of Fed being number 3 is that we don't need to use the term big 4 anymore

:yeah:

nole_no1
11-26-2011, 04:57 PM
Not so impressive but he got the job done

fran70
11-26-2011, 05:01 PM
Hands off for Roger :worship:. This can be possibly his last big victory on the tour. I hope he can beat Tsonga/Berdych tomorrow.

Commander Data
11-26-2011, 05:03 PM
Stinker match form Fed. Hopefully has some gears saved for the final.

Sunset of Age
11-26-2011, 05:03 PM
best part of Fed being number 3 is that we don't need to use the term big 4 anymore

Ajde! Vamos! Allez! :worship: :D

GOAT = Fed
11-26-2011, 05:07 PM
Ajde! Vamos! Allez! :worship: :D

Why are you rating that 'tardish post for? :confused:

Murray is a great player and I think deserves to be acknowledged in the top 4(Even though I hate him) :shrug:

Saberq
11-26-2011, 05:09 PM
Why are you rating that 'tardish post for? :confused:

Murray is a great player and I think deserves to be acknowledged in the top 4(Even though I hate him) :shrug:

they are talking about BIG 4 not TOP 4 I think

helvet empire
11-26-2011, 05:11 PM
Yet again, Fed faces a tired Berdych or Tsonga for the title. Cakewalkerer strikes again. You know the tournament is a joke when his toughest match was against Fish.

oh yeah you know they're tired even though their match hasn't even started yet:rolleyes::rolleyes:

GOAT = Fed
11-26-2011, 05:12 PM
they are talking about BIG 4 not TOP 4 I think

Well Murray deserves to be in big 4, no? He has beaten all of the top 3 and can produce a performance to do it at any time. He's had better slam results than Federer, so if Federer is in big 3, then Murray should be in it as well.

Sunset of Age
11-26-2011, 05:13 PM
Why are you rating that 'tardish post for? :confused:

Murray is a great player and I think deserves to be acknowledged in the top 4(Even though I hate him) :shrug:

A bit of tard-antidote wasn't uncalled for imho.

BTW let it be clear, if there is ANYONE around over here who truly thinks that Murray indeed deserves to win a slam, it's me. To recall a quote of that "classless *****", after his victory at AO 2010: "Murray is too good a player to never win a slam".
Word it is.

Saberq
11-26-2011, 05:16 PM
A bit of tard-antidote wasn't uncalled for imho.

BTW let it be clear, if there is ANYONE around over here who truly thinks that Murray indeed deserves to win a slam, it's me. To recall a quote of that "classless *****", after his victory at AO 2010: "Murray is too good a player to never win a slam".
Word it is.

Honestly nobody deserves to win something....Fed deserved to beat Nadal once in RG but didn't ...it's how much you put into it + some luck and skill

Saberq
11-26-2011, 05:18 PM
Well Murray deserves to be in big 4, no? He has beaten all of the top 3 and can produce a performance to do it at any time. He's had better slam results than Federer, so if Federer is in big 3, then Murray should be in it as well.

he is not still on the same level ....his mental lapses are too evident during one single match to win big events consistently

GOAT = Fed
11-26-2011, 05:22 PM
A bit of tard-antidote wasn't uncalled for imho.

BTW let it be clear, if there is ANYONE around over here who truly thinks that Murray indeed deserves to win a slam, it's me. To recall a quote of that "classless *****", after his victory at AO 2010: "Murray is too good a player to never win a slam".
Word it is.

:lol:

But then why are you agreeing with his statement. Surely anyone long overdue a slam (Which you can see too) deserves to be called part of the big 4.

Unless you were just trolling for a bit of fun :p which I can then understand. Everyone likes to troll sometimes :devil:

Sunset of Age
11-26-2011, 05:23 PM
Honestly nobody deserves to win something....Fed deserved to beat Nadal once in RG but didn't ...it's how much you put into it + some luck and skill

Of course, I'd even want to go so far and claim that anyone who's managed to reach a final in a big event, 'deserves' the (a) win as well - but it will always be a matter of whom of the two does better in the final encounter.

Just as Murray got close a couple of times already at the GS, I also think that Ferrer 'deserves' a victory at a masters by now, just to name another example. Unfortunately one doesn't always 'get what one deserves', that's the harshness of life, and perhaps, even more of top sports.

GOAT = Fed
11-26-2011, 05:24 PM
he is not still on the same level ....his mental lapses are too evident during one single match to win big events consistently

He is on the same level, but I agree his mental lapses are too evident at the big stage. He needs to more deep runs at GS and then after that I think he will crack this mental problem of his.

Like I said I absolutely despise Andy Murray and do not want him to win a slam, but the truth is, he is good enough to win a slam, many players worse than him have won one.

Saberq
11-26-2011, 05:29 PM
He is on the same level, but I agree his mental lapses are too evident at the big stage. He needs to more deep runs at GS and then after that I think he will crack this mental problem of his.

Like I said I absolutely despise Andy Murray and do not want him to win a slam, but the truth is, he is good enough to win a slam, many players worse than him have won one.

that's true...

GSMnadal
11-26-2011, 05:30 PM
Murray is not on the same level and his problem are not 'mental lapses', Nadal's, Federer's and Djokovic's games are just way better. That's why most of the time he gets routined during slams (he occasionally grabs a set).

Three multiple slam winners, 2/3 having a career grand slam, the other well on his way and only with one missing, all are former world #1's (and Novak the current one).

What the fuck does Murray have in comparison? Being crushed in his three slam finals? His masters shields? Come on, there's no such thing as the Big 4.

HKz
11-26-2011, 05:34 PM
Shaky start, but I think some of it can be attributed as nerves because after all, I am sure he is aware of the few things he is closing in on (#3 ranking, record WTF titles) both of which are still very important to him even if he said they aren't like the #3 ranking as I'm sure he would still love to grab the #1 ranking again.

Murray is not on the same level and his problem are not 'mental lapses', Nadal's, Federer's and Djokovic's games are just way better. That's why most of the time he gets routined during slams (he occasionally grabs a set).

Three multiple slam winners, 2/3 having a career grand slam, the other well on his way and only with one missing, all are former world #1's (and Novak the current one).

What the fuck does Murray have in comparison? Being crushed in his three slam finals? His masters shields? Come on, there's no such thing as the Big 4.

No, in terms of all 4 winning, there is no big 4, but Murray is still the 4th one in the picture at all these slams just waiting for the others to either fail to make it or have some off days in the semifinals and finals, so that still makes him part of the "big 4"

GOAT = Fed
11-26-2011, 05:35 PM
Murray is not on the same level and his problem are not 'mental lapses', Nadal's, Federer's and Djokovic's games are just way better. That's why most of the time he gets routined during slams (he occasionally grabs a set).

Three multiple slam winners, 2/3 having a career grand slam, the other well on his way and only with one missing, all are former world #1's (and Novak the current one).

What the fuck does Murray have in comparison? Being crushed in his three slam finals? His masters shields? Come on, there's no such thing as the Big 4.

Take off your Nadal goggles please.

Are you seriously suggesting to me that Murray's level is not comparable to Nadal, Djokovic or Federer? If Murray doesn't play a defensive game and actually plays an attacking game, he's probably on second to Federer in terms of talent. Look how he was dominating Nadal at Wimbledon when he was playing aggressive until he missed that mid court shot. Despite Nadal winning all 3 of their GS meetings this year, they were much tighter than the scoreline suggests; At the French Murray had like 132981830918823 break points, the wimbledon final he could have beaten Nadal if he didn't get mentally crushed because of one shot, US Open he again had a lot of chances to take it to 5 sets.

One thing that Murray definitely lacks is in the mental department. It's the only place where I will say the top 3 far outshine Murray in.

HKz
11-26-2011, 05:40 PM
Take off your Nadal goggles please.

Are you seriously suggesting to me that Murray's level is not comparable to Nadal, Djokovic or Federer? If Murray doesn't play a defensive game and actually plays an attacking game, he's probably on second to Federer in terms of talent. Look how he was dominating Nadal at Wimbledon when he was playing aggressive until he missed that mid court shot. Despite Nadal winning all 3 of their GS meetings this year, they were much tighter than the scoreline suggests; At the French Murray had like 132981830918823 break points, the wimbledon final he could have beaten Nadal if he didn't get mentally crushed because of one shot, US Open he again had a lot of chances to take it to 5 sets.

One thing that Murray definitely lacks is in the mental department. It's the only place where I will say the top 3 far outshine Murray in.

Well the fact of the matter is that aside from Nadal, Murray has failed to play well against the big 3 at the slams. It is a combination of his style and mental strength, he can only defend for so long against Federer and Djokovic, while against Nadal he plays aggressively when he should be playing it safe and then doesn't pull the trigger when he needs to, but somehow he gets the equation right in many of their non-GS matches..

Saberq
11-26-2011, 05:45 PM
Take off your Nadal goggles please.

Are you seriously suggesting to me that Murray's level is not comparable to Nadal, Djokovic or Federer? If Murray doesn't play a defensive game and actually plays an attacking game, he's probably on second to Federer in terms of talent. Look how he was dominating Nadal at Wimbledon when he was playing aggressive until he missed that mid court shot. Despite Nadal winning all 3 of their GS meetings this year, they were much tighter than the scoreline suggests; At the French Murray had like 132981830918823 break points, the wimbledon final he could have beaten Nadal if he didn't get mentally crushed because of one shot, US Open he again had a lot of chances to take it to 5 sets.

One thing that Murray definitely lacks is in the mental department. It's the only place where I will say the top 3 far outshine Murray in.

I disagree that Murray's talent is bigger than those of Rafa and Novak ....just because Murray uses more variety and has a gentler touch doesnt mean he has more talent...In my opinion talent is reflected in ball striking and in that area Novak and Nadal are much better and more talented than him....

Hingisova
11-26-2011, 05:46 PM
Why is Murray even mentioned in this thread??:rolleyes:...get a life guys....continued congrats to Roger or as Tina Turner put it "Rolling, rolling, rolling down the river!!:worship:

Hingisova:wavey:

Sapeod
11-26-2011, 05:53 PM
The GOAT is on the rampage. He wants this title and a perfect ending to the season.
I disagree that Murray's talent is bigger than those of Rafa and Novak ....just because Murray uses more variety and has a gentler touch doesnt mean he has more talent...In my opinion talent is reflected in ball striking and in that area Novak and Nadal are much better and more talented than him....
Talent is ball striking? No, talent is the ability to and various types of tactical play along with solid groundstrokes, volleys etc. Talent is just everything and Murray has more than them. Murray is better at volleying and slicing than Nadal and Djokovic. He is just as good off the ground and his serve is better. He also has far more variety and can do much more than they can. In terms of talent, Murray utterly obliterates the current top 2.

fmolinari2005
11-26-2011, 05:53 PM
Federer played poorly because he is tired after an entire year of playing tennis. Oh shit, wait ... that only is true for Rafole.

Anyway. Crappy match, but, in a way, a good match for Fed. Lately even against his pigeons he was having problems beating them when he was playing poorly. It is good seeing this other aspect of Rog's game that was pretty much on while the days he was dominating: winning when playing poorly. People forget that back in the day Roger would have his fair share of victories when he was on Shankerer mode.

Note to Nadal and Djokovic: take a look at how to win while playing poorly without having to grind out yourself and the opponent to the ground.

Saberq
11-26-2011, 05:56 PM
The GOAT is on the rampage. He wants this title and a perfect ending to the season.

Talent is ball striking? No, talent is the ability to and various types of tactical play along with solid groundstrokes, volleys etc. Talent is just everything and Murray has more than them. Murray is better at volleying and slicing than Nadal and Djokovic. He is just as good off the ground and his serve is better. He also has far more variety and can do much more than they can. In terms of talent, Murray utterly obliterates the current top 2.

he is not as good of the ground ...his FH is nothing compared to Novak and Rafa and his BH is weaker than Novak's so no he is not as good

abraxas21
11-26-2011, 06:01 PM
ferrer was a choking clown in this match

he managed to trouble federer in some moments of the first set but then clowned around when he needed to dictate play or at least play solidly. truth be told, ferrer was already a beaten man before even playing the match. he had no business being there

i guess that's what being a turkey does to you. now someone smuggle ferrer back to spain pronto

Roamed
11-26-2011, 06:07 PM
I've just skimmed through highlights and I'd forgotten about that unfortunate call by Mo early in the first set. Glad it didn't end up having an impact.

Henry Chinaski
11-26-2011, 06:07 PM
anyone get a screencap of the stats for the first set or match?

or remember the w/ue figures?

Geo
11-26-2011, 06:13 PM
Federer is just a bad matchup for Ferrer :shrug: Nothing against Ferrer, but I'm hoping he doesn't qualify for the WTF next year. He couldn't even get to a break point on Federer's serve today :lol:

Sunset of Age
11-26-2011, 06:15 PM
I've just skimmed through highlights and I'd forgotten about that unfortunate call by Mo early in the first set. Glad it didn't end up having an impact.

Sheez man, that was bloody AWFUL. Ridiculous call indeed, it was straight on the line.

But - I hope this is the 'beginning of the end' of players (whoever!) asking the ump whether to challenge a call or not. As much as Mo was wrong to suggest that that ball was out, I still think players shouldn't at all ask the ump in the first place. It should merely be their *own* decision to challenge or not.

hipolymer
11-26-2011, 06:16 PM
Ferrer really is a disgraceful little man. Why couldn't he play against Federer like he did against Djokovic? Federer wasn't even playing well today.

Geo
11-26-2011, 06:18 PM
Sheez man, that was bloody AWFUL. Ridiculous call indeed, it was straight on the line.

But - I hope this is the 'beginning of the end' of players asking the ump whether to challenge a call or not. As much as Mo was wrong to suggest that that ball was out, I still think players shouldn't at all ask the ump in the first place. It should merely be their *own* decision to challenge or not.


I agree with you.

Corey Feldman
11-26-2011, 06:19 PM
congrats Goderer

100th Final for Madre Teresa

solowyn
11-26-2011, 06:20 PM
anyone get a screencap of the stats for the first set or match?

or remember the w/ue figures?
1st set was 4/11 for Ferru, 14/19 for Fed.

Final stats were Fed - 6 aces, 84% 1st serve pts won, 24w/29ue and for Ferrer - 1 ace, 5 DFs, 8w/21ue.

abraxas21
11-26-2011, 06:22 PM
anyone get a screencap of the stats for the first set or match?

or remember the w/ue figures?

cant recall but both had more UE than W. fed naturally had more of everything compared to ferrer

for what it's worth, at 5-5 in the first set i remember fed had 9 forehand errors while ferrer had 3.

abraxas21
11-26-2011, 06:24 PM
1st set was 4/11 for Ferru, 14/19 for Fed.

Final stats were Fed - 6 aces, 84% 1st serve pts won, 24w/29ue and for Ferrer - 1 ace, 5 DFs, 8w/21ue.

oh yeah

might be worth mentioning that 5 of those 6 aces were in the firt set.

BigJohn
11-26-2011, 06:28 PM
Mug match.. But not surprised. Ferrer has no business in a SF here. Too bad Nole and Rafa and Murray didn't show up and just went through the motions. Shitty WTF this year. Last year was miles better

SS tryimg to diminish a Federer achievement? Colour me surprised.

Ferrer really is a disgraceful little man. Why couldn't he play against Federer like he did against Djokovic? Federer wasn't even playing well today.

Hahaha. Whiner.

alfonsojose
11-26-2011, 06:29 PM
Even Pusherer can beat Ferrer. Not a good pratice for tomorrow :(

r3d_d3v1l_
11-26-2011, 06:34 PM
I disagree that Murray's talent is bigger than those of Rafa and Novak ....just because Murray uses more variety and has a gentler touch doesnt mean he has more talent...In my opinion talent is reflected in ball striking and in that area Novak and Nadal are much better and more talented than him....

Murray is a mental mindget with a unreliable forehand and somewhat inconsistent serve. Add the physical superiority of Novak and Rafa and there´s the reason why the Scotch is behind in GS count. But in the end, he is still more talented than both, that´s for sure.


As for the match, i actually thought Federer had a problem with his back or something, because his movement was really crap (reminded me of Wimbledon 2010). He´s in the final, which is great, but he needs to step up the game if he faces a hot Berdych/Tsonga.

About Ferrer, i love the man but he totally collapses when facing a big name of the game. I think he respects too much Federer/Nadal and ends up choking, when he is on the upper hand of the match. I have no doubt that he would blast all those second serves at 5-4 if he was facing Fish or Tsonga, but it was Federer, so he decided to fire ue´s from all over the place, when he only needed to put the ball on Federer´s backhand.

It´s a shame, because he had one hell of a year.

shiaben
11-26-2011, 06:40 PM
lol at the people who thought this would be "tough" and go to 3 sets.

NID, Federer taking out the trash.

GOAT = Fed
11-26-2011, 07:03 PM
The GOAT is on the rampage. He wants this title and a perfect ending to the season.

Talent is ball striking? No, talent is the ability to and various types of tactical play along with solid groundstrokes, volleys etc. Talent is just everything and Murray has more than them. Murray is better at volleying and slicing than Nadal and Djokovic. He is just as good off the ground and his serve is better. He also has far more variety and can do much more than they can. In terms of talent, Murray utterly obliterates the current top 2.

I agree. Talent is not about ball striking, but exactly what Murray does (When on top of his game and not 20 feet behind baseline): variety and tactical play.

Sebrq is seeming to suggest ball-bashing is talent? :confused:

Saberq
11-26-2011, 07:06 PM
I agree. Talent is not about ball striking, but exactly what Murray does (When on top of his game and not 20 feet behind baseline): variety and tactical play.

Sebrq is seeming to suggest ball-bashing is talent? :confused:

It's Saberq my friend and tell me is Novak or Nadal a ball basher?I am talking about clean hitting the ball

GOAT = Fed
11-26-2011, 07:09 PM
It's Saberq my friend and tell me is Novak or Nadal a ball basher?I am talking about clean hitting the ball

Sorry that was a typo :o

Erm not really, but the way your post was written it sounded like that. I apologise if I mistook your post ;)

I think Murray strikes the ball alright, there's no problem with that, especially on the backhand side. He just needs to learn how to hit the forehand down the line, I think he has improved in that department since the US Open. Next year I think is the make or break year for him I think.

habibko
11-26-2011, 07:45 PM
so much for Murray's asian swing efforts to claim #3.. should get his priorities right :o

highlights

-AH29Nvnxso

nobama
11-26-2011, 07:57 PM
Love the crowd reaction after the announcer mentions that it's his 100th career final. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4PknW5MpJk

Saberq
11-26-2011, 08:06 PM
Sorry that was a typo :o

Erm not really, but the way your post was written it sounded like that. I apologise if I mistook your post ;)

I think Murray strikes the ball alright, there's no problem with that, especially on the backhand side. He just needs to learn how to hit the forehand down the line, I think he has improved in that department since the US Open. Next year I think is the make or break year for him I think.

true..if he doesnt win a Slam next year he never will......oh wait 2013 is his year and he will win all 4 Slams LOL :devil:

TheRafaelNadal
11-26-2011, 08:18 PM
John isner

Henry Chinaski
11-26-2011, 08:25 PM
thanks for the stats people.

GOAT = Fed
11-26-2011, 08:37 PM
true..if he doesnt win a Slam next year he never will......oh wait 2013 is his year and he will win all 4 Slams LOL :devil:

:haha:

Don't you worry, Murray will be getting calender slams at the age of 40 :devil:

Arkulari
11-26-2011, 08:53 PM
The match-up issue here is huge, specially in indoor hard.

Roger didn't play well but Pics is an uncomfortable opponent for anyone not playing their best, sadly the result was NID.

This level won't cut it out against either Tsonga or Berdych, so I think Roger has to focus a lot tomorrow.

Pics :hug: :hug: you did well again :) now win DC :D

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvaagnpgr01qfzaz9o1_250.gif

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvaagnpgr01qfzaz9o4_250.gif

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvaagnpgr01qfzaz9o6_250.gif

Dorkerer :hearts: :hearts:

Crazy Girl
11-26-2011, 09:35 PM
DELIGHTED, DELIGHETED,
OH ALL PEOPLE OF THE PLANET HEARTH!!!!

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/b9/fullj.072d3500aa88f19db48984052eea81bf/072d3500aa88f19db48984052eea81bf-getty-507441885.jpg

(for me this pic is clearly - ????? - a fake)
isn't human.

Crazy Girl
11-26-2011, 09:37 PM
what's going on...
for the love of god, with our Rogi?
(flu? or what else??)

rest for tomorrow rogi....

Crazy Girl
11-26-2011, 09:40 PM
Good match... :o



what's in your avatar?
rafito with colitis??
again pasta with salmon??:p:p:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Crazy Girl
11-26-2011, 09:43 PM
Ok... Fed broke so many records this last 3 months, maybe it's time for another one tomorrow :D

hoping so...:cool::cool::cool:

Crazy Girl
11-26-2011, 09:47 PM
Is Roger number 3 now ?
:crazy::crazy::crazy:

Crazy Girl
11-26-2011, 09:49 PM
Yet again, Fed faces a tired Berdych or Tsonga for the title. Cakewalkerer strikes again. You know the tournament is a joke when his toughest match was against Fish.
eh???:confused::confused:

Crazy Girl
11-26-2011, 09:51 PM
:banana:

ahahah
ahahhaah
ahahhaahahahah
BAGELICIOUS!!!!

AHAH
AHAHAH
AHAHHAHA
:hug::hug::hug: :smooch:

Crazy Girl
11-26-2011, 09:54 PM
How pathetic, to celebrate another's injury? Old bones may win the Golden slam next year, but he's still a classless ****. How could anyone be a fan of such a petty, obsessive fool? :o

ah ah...who knows, Muzzah..
maybe the entire world is getting sick!!??

Crazy Girl
11-26-2011, 10:05 PM
Ferrer really is a disgraceful little man. Why couldn't he play against Federer like he did against Djokovic? Federer wasn't even playing well today.RIGHT!
the fine (or the bad) of tennis is just this.
clearly the game of roger doesn't work good for David.
tennis is a mistery...
and in this it's
his beauty.

LOVE TENNIS :worship::worship:

Crazy Girl
11-26-2011, 10:07 PM
congrats Goderer

100th Final for Madre Teresa


:lol: :lol: :lol:
MIKEY!!!!! you're a myth!!

GODERER!!! MADRE TERESA!!! ahahahahah :lol:

samanosuke
11-26-2011, 10:09 PM
always nice to see Crazy Girl on fire :spit: . Be happy tonight cause I have feeling we'll be fucked tomorrow

Crazy Girl
11-26-2011, 10:11 PM
always nice to see Crazy Girl on fire :spit: . Be happy tonight cause I have feeling we'll be fucked tomorrow
samano!!!:wavey::wavey:my friend!!!

If would be ROGER to fuck me....;);):o:o:o

I would agree...........:eek::devil:

Crazy Girl
11-26-2011, 10:14 PM
DAVID!!! :hug:::hug:

for you...
little big man!

samanosuke
11-26-2011, 10:16 PM
samano!!!:wavey::wavey:my friend!!!

If would be ROGER to fuck me....;);):o:o:o

I would agree...........:eek::devil:

the problem is that Rog we'll also be fucked

Corey Feldman
11-26-2011, 10:17 PM
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/b9/fullj.072d3500aa88f19db48984052eea81bf/072d3500aa88f19db48984052eea81bf-getty-507441885.jpg

pure ballet and grace

beautiful

Crazy Girl
11-26-2011, 10:18 PM
YES MIKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAVE YOU SEEN???
Seems like a PHOTOSHOP!!!!

Crazy Girl
11-26-2011, 10:22 PM
the problem is that Rog we'll also be fucked

ahahahahah a tennis orgy!!!:devil:

no no...
com'on samano!!!
think POSITIVE!!!
LIKE ME!!!
:wavey:
(i hope tomorrow roger shall be again in shape)

Corey Feldman
11-26-2011, 10:29 PM
Crazy girl :kiss:

you dont want Roger's 69 he made for you to last longer? only 1 week with it? :devil:

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
11-26-2011, 10:31 PM
lendl played 9 finals in a row

incredible sir- incredible

fed- well done daddy- now win the 6th and seperate yourself from connors and pete

MIMIC
11-26-2011, 10:49 PM
SS tryimg to diminish a Federer achievement? Colour me surprised.


Fed fans getting a taste of their own medicine? :scratch:

Kat_YYZ
11-26-2011, 10:54 PM
Crazy girl :kiss:

you dont want Roger's 69 he made for you to last longer? only 1 week with it? :devil:

our fearless Crazy Girl will think of something sexy to do with a "70" -- I'm sure of it. :devil:

Crazy Girl
11-26-2011, 11:13 PM
our fearless Crazy Girl will think of something sexy to do with a "70" -- I'm sure of it. :devil:

ahahahahahahahahhahahahaha
no katy!!!

with the n° 70, i have no ideas!!:o:o:(:(

:hug::hug:

Naudio Spanlatine
11-26-2011, 11:17 PM
Crazygirl:haha: :hug:

fed:ras:

Crazy Girl
11-26-2011, 11:17 PM
Crazy girl :kiss:

you dont want Roger's 69 he made for you to last longer? only 1 week with it? :devil:

ahahahhaah a 69 for an entire week...
is enough! (you know...)
my lips are on fire.
:devil::devil:

(ok....I will change my sig! No problems!)

Crazy Girl
11-26-2011, 11:20 PM
Crazygirl:haha: :hug:

fed:ras:

:hug:

I like that :ras: for rogi...it's funny!!!

Naudio Spanlatine
11-26-2011, 11:24 PM
:hug:

I like that :ras: for rogi...it's funny!!!

i mostly do that for fed, i like to pretend i hate him even tho i dont:cool: :lol:

Mateya
11-26-2011, 11:59 PM
What a sucky match. :tape:

Goderer was nowhere to be seen today. Ferrer making a lot of errors for his standards.
Better 2nd set from Serverer...David fought hard but couldn't hold his serve in the beginning of the set and then had no chance as Roger was really serving great.

Goderer or Deaderer, I think he'll clinch another WTF title tommorrow as he owns Clownga indoors.
:wavey:



I like that :ras: for rogi...it's funny!!!
Imagine what he could do to you with that tongue. :angel:

Crazy Girl
11-27-2011, 12:04 AM
What a sucky match. :tape: Goderer was nowhere to be seen today. Ferrer making a lot of errors for his standards. Better 2nd set from Serverer...David fought hard but couldn't hold his serve in the beginning of the set and then had no chance as Roger was really serving great. Goderer or Deaderer, I think he'll clinch another WTF title tommorrow as he owns Clownga indoors. :wavey:





Imagine what he could do to you with that tongue. :angel:


:devil::devil::devil:You're teasing Crazy Girl...(you know...) :drool::drool::kiss::kiss::hearts::hearts:

Naudio Spanlatine
11-27-2011, 12:05 AM
omg plz dont say that to crazygirl, she has that username for a reason:o:facepalm:

crazygirl:kiss:

Crazy Girl
11-27-2011, 12:09 AM
have you seen the calf of rogi in that pic???

:drool::drool::drool:

(I guess I've some problems...)

Naudio Spanlatine
11-27-2011, 12:29 AM
have you seen the calf of rogi in that pic???

:drool::drool::drool:

(I guess I've some problems...)

oh yes ive seen his calves, jus like ive seen his hairy chest and his tight ass......oh god help me:facepalm:

:secret:i think you do, too much rogi porn

Topspindoctor
11-27-2011, 12:33 AM
Most NID match of the year. Olderer could allow Mirka to play for set and a half and he'd still win comfortably.

dabeast
11-27-2011, 06:09 AM
This is what being a fan of Murray does to you :

How pathetic, to celebrate another's injury? Old bones may win the Golden slam next year, but he's still a classless ****. How could anyone be a fan of such a petty, obsessive fool? :o

btw, how could anyone stand to look at your avatar :o hideous beyond belief

*Jean*
11-27-2011, 11:22 AM
David :tape:

Ben.
11-27-2011, 01:02 PM
Ferrer had his chances in the first set, should really have broken Fed at 5-5 I think it was. Sadly the errors started to flow every deuce, especially on the BH. To be fair I was expecting them against Murray, then Djokovic. Great tournament for David though, I'm sure he will be a bit dissapointed as he really could have done even better but he would have gladly taken this before it started.

Egreen
11-27-2011, 01:23 PM
Ferrer has nothing to hurt Federer.

BroTree123
11-27-2011, 01:28 PM
This is what being a fan of Murray does to you :



btw, how could anyone stand to look at your avatar :o hideous beyond belief

That is so fucking good :lol:. :hatoff:.

Crazy Girl
11-28-2011, 10:38 PM
oh yes ive seen his calves, jus like ive seen his hairy chest and his tight ass......oh god help me:facepalm:

:secret:i think you do, too much rogi porn:secret: yes!! :secret:

:spit::spit: