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London RR: Tsonga def. Nadal 7-6(2) 4-6 6-3

Action Jackson
11-24-2011, 10:58 PM
Win win all round. Not the greatest match but Tsonga's backhand smash and volleying were excellent. Lucky he had the insurance break in the 3rd and didn't need to serve it out.

Nadal can now go back to Spain and prepare for DC final.

castle007
11-24-2011, 10:58 PM
Hilarious ending. That last game pretty much sums up Nadal's game. Tsonga was clearly nervous, and instead of capitalizing on this, Nadal folds.

Good win for Tsonga though. He will play Ferrer in the SF.

venky91
11-24-2011, 10:58 PM
Nah nah nah nah...hey, hey, hey...goodbye...

alter ego
11-24-2011, 10:59 PM
Tsonga volleying like a goat, hitting the BH like a clown. The serve made the diffrence.

dodo
11-24-2011, 10:59 PM
huge muggery in the end.
but otherwise solid match. great net play by tsonga.

Roadmap
11-24-2011, 10:59 PM
The player with talent won.

SheepleBuster
11-24-2011, 10:59 PM
SO it will be Novak vs. Tsonga in final? Since Fed will have to face Novak in semis? :D No. I am picking Fed

rocketassist
11-24-2011, 10:59 PM
ALLEZZZZZZ! :rocker2:

Tennis won. :dance:

Johnny Groove
11-24-2011, 10:59 PM
Tsonga too good.

Rafa, go home and rest up for Davis Cup.

TMJordan
11-24-2011, 10:59 PM
LOL

You are so bad Nadal.

rubbERR
11-24-2011, 11:00 PM
Nadal in crappy form again... 2009 deja vu.

shiaben
11-24-2011, 11:00 PM
Now kill that pusher Ferrer in 2 sets.

RNW
11-24-2011, 11:00 PM
Tsonga was BY FAR the better player.
He could have break Nadal a thousand times but just win it in a tight three setter.
The last service game from Tsonga with 3 DF was very strange and bad.

The match overall was ok, but Tsonga did too many errors, otherwise he would have won easily in two.
On this surface, he is better than Nadal.

He hit winner 46 winners (45 errors)
nadal hit 14 winners (!), 24 errors.

Match time: 2:42

Tsonga in semis with chances to reach the final.

selyoink
11-24-2011, 11:00 PM
Tsonga taking out the trash. Nadull looking like a mug all week.

MaxPower
11-24-2011, 11:00 PM
14 winners vs 46 winners

3 net points won vs 27 net points won

Tennis won

helvet empire
11-24-2011, 11:00 PM
HAHAHA u suck nadalita!

asmazif
11-24-2011, 11:00 PM
:)

Managed to make a positive W/UE ratio in the end (46-45) :lol:

Good win Jo, would have been a pretty poor loss.

And this:

14 winners vs 46 winners

3 net points won vs 27 net points won

Tennis won

Hewitt =Legend
11-24-2011, 11:00 PM
Too good from Tsonga, some epic volleys in there as well. Nadal was never in this event, DC is more important to him.

tnosugar
11-24-2011, 11:01 PM
SO it will be Novak vs. Tsonga in final? Since Fed will have to face Novak in semis? :D No. I am picking Fed

Novak might easily lose to Tipsa tomorrow. He looks seriously spent. Nadal is in that place too. The season ended after that brutal showdown for them.

Lopez
11-24-2011, 11:01 PM
Good for the game :yeah:.

Tsonga has a chance against any of the players in the other group that can qualify and he can also beat Federer. A title contender surely.

Nadal got tight on his forehand in tough spots, has been like that in important matches throughout the year.

habibko
11-24-2011, 11:01 PM
not the ideal scenario I wanted but I'll still take it :yeah: always a joy to see this aggressive style of tennis beating passive ugly shit :rocker2:

SerenaFederer
11-24-2011, 11:01 PM
rafa :( let's get ready for next year....L-E-N-G-T-H is the name of the game

TheBoiledEgg
11-24-2011, 11:01 PM
Tennis won :D beating the moonball trash

Armless
11-24-2011, 11:01 PM
Tsonga's volleying was superb, felt so comfortable at the net today, that was the key of his success. Surely he should make the finals with this form, just a bit tight at the endings, good thing he got an extra break there. Much better from Nadal, but still not enough.

shadows
11-24-2011, 11:01 PM
I am sooooooo happy xD

My god I was getting nervous when Tsonga started going awol after the great first set.

dsand[sadsd

when he choked in the third @ 5-2 I almost had a heart attack.

Phew lol!!

Could even make the finals now, it's been a good year to be a Tsonga fan, and he's finishing up well.

helvet empire
11-24-2011, 11:02 PM
2-5 in sets this year, see you next year looooooooser!

syc23
11-24-2011, 11:02 PM
The player with talent won.

So is that why the Tsonga doesn't have 10 GS and a career golden slam at that then?

Rafito just looked jaded and probably looking forward to 2012 already.

Filo V.
11-24-2011, 11:03 PM
Tsonga was the considerably better player and had chances in all but a few of Nadal's service games throughout the match, so the result was sort of inevitable. I expected Tsonga in 3 and that's what happened. Tsonga was up and down but in general played well. Nadal was mostly mediocre throughout.

Tsonga was the better player this match and this week and deserves his spot in the semis.

Voo de Mar
11-24-2011, 11:03 PM
Very good match :bigclap: Tsonga was great at the net tonight.

Mechlan
11-24-2011, 11:04 PM
Nadal pretty crappy overall but fighting as always. Tsonga, some excellent volleys and high backhand smashes mixed with some boneheaded misses as always. Should never have let this go to 3, but good win for him anyway.

Ozone
11-24-2011, 11:04 PM
Nadal indoors :facepalm: Tsonga should have won in straights

madmax
11-24-2011, 11:04 PM
Talent beats moonballing....
As far as I'm concerned that's the logical outcome indoors

rubbERR
11-24-2011, 11:04 PM
People in MTF doesnt have any intelligence at all... almost everyone are stupid as fuck :lol:

Of course there are some exceptions

Puschkin
11-24-2011, 11:04 PM
I hope that Nalbandian has seen this.

doomsday
11-24-2011, 11:05 PM
glad Tsonga showed him the door see you in 2012 Nadull.

BigJohn
11-24-2011, 11:05 PM
THIS
IS
SPARTA

yuri27
11-24-2011, 11:05 PM
Tsonga's volleying was superb, felt so comfortable at the net today, that was the key of his success. Surely he should make the finals with this form, just a bit tight at the endings, good thing he got an extra break there. Much better from Nadal, but still not enough.

Tsonga needs to concentrate more on opponent's serve.
It's not normal he had to wait the third set to break an out of sort Nadal who is far from being a great server anyway.

timafi
11-24-2011, 11:05 PM
Jo you were the shit at the net:hatoff: :hatoff:

Commander Data
11-24-2011, 11:05 PM
Nadals game is in a sore state. It seems to me that his footwork is slowly deteriorating.

I start to feel sorry for the bull from Spain. his defense is mainly moonballing

fast_clay
11-24-2011, 11:06 PM
I hope that Nalbandian has seen this.

nadal is in deep shit

ZaZoo)
11-24-2011, 11:06 PM
Clownga :rocker2:

How many points will Rafito now lose? :D

Saberq
11-24-2011, 11:06 PM
SO it will be Novak vs. Tsonga in final? Since Fed will have to face Novak in semis? :D No. I am picking Fed

Novak is done for the season ....

Egreen
11-24-2011, 11:06 PM
Ali.:yeah:

TommyCZE
11-24-2011, 11:07 PM
Pusher out, good sign for tennis even on that slow surface.

castle007
11-24-2011, 11:07 PM
2-5 in sets this year, see you next year looooooooser!

Isn't he 3-6??

And Nadal a loser? lol Yes, indoors is his worst surface, but let's not get carried away.

green25814
11-24-2011, 11:07 PM
Great volleying from Stronga, you know he's in form when those stop-volleys are working. Other than that his groundstrokes were very hit and miss, but good overall.

Nadal played very well for the first two sets, then seemed to go missing in the third.

Leo
11-24-2011, 11:08 PM
That end was purely clownish from both men. 3 DFs from Tsonga in his attempt to serve it out and numerous FH errors from Nadal in his last service game. Thankfully Tsonga ended on a positive note with the crushed forehand crosscourt.

Overall, a good performance from Jo. His serving was beautiful throughout the first and third sets. His volleying was equally good. I think his net points won in the final set was something like 10/12. Meanwhile, this is truly the worst Nadal we have seen since end of '09/beginning '10. Will be interesting to see if he can recover in 2012 or continue losing to Djokovic, Federer, Tsonga, Murray, Ferrer.

StevoTG
11-24-2011, 11:08 PM
Tsonga coming to the net.. better wipe the drool off the floor here. That was so good to see! Congrats Joe!

Good luck next week Rafa.

Clay Death
11-24-2011, 11:08 PM
i dont think i have ever seen him play this poorly.

the slide continues.

there is a way out but he is too fucking stubborn and stupid to fix it: he has to go park his ass on clay and stay there for a few months. clay can fix his ground game, his consistency, and his confidence. that means more practice on clay and it also means saying no to any extra hard court acitivity (singles and doubles.

because at this current rate he will soon not be able win on any surface.

his infatuation with hard courts has ruined him as a player.

viruzzz
11-24-2011, 11:08 PM
Wow... Jo volleys were... perfect.

ImmzB
11-24-2011, 11:09 PM
Rafa!! :sad: :sad:

Congrats Tsonga who was great with the volleys today! :yeah:

MuzzahLovah
11-24-2011, 11:10 PM
Good. Hopefully Tsonga is joined by Berdych and Ferrer in the semis, and Djokovic takes a nap until Australia. And Nadal picks up golf.

Egreen
11-24-2011, 11:10 PM
i dont think i have ever seen him play this poorly.

the slide continues.

there is a way out but he is too fucking stubborn and stupid to fix it: he has to go park his ass on clay and stay there for a few months. clay can fix his ground game, his consistency, and his confidence. that means more practice on clay and it also means saying no to any extra hard court acitivity (singles and doubles.

because at this current rate he will soon not be able win on any surface.

his infatuation with hard courts has ruined him as a player.

First year without a title outside of clay since 2004. :eek: He is truly in decline.

Crazy Girl
11-24-2011, 11:10 PM
Nah nah nah nah...hey, hey, hey...goodbye...

:singer::singer::singer:

DDrago2
11-24-2011, 11:10 PM
Tsonga too good.

Rafa, go home and rest up for Davis Cup.

Rafa, eat a lot of suggar - it will make you feel better. Then writte your testament. And after that, go and play football!

Corey Feldman
11-24-2011, 11:12 PM
roasted in the Toast finals!

dedicated to SDG, Foxy, Topspindoctor and TheRafaelNadal

DDrago2
11-24-2011, 11:12 PM
Talent beats moonballing....
As far as I'm concerned that's the logical outcome indoors

Needs to be said again.

Crazy Girl
11-24-2011, 11:13 PM
i dont think i have ever seen him play this poorly.

the slide continues.


his infatuation with hard courts has ruined him as a player.


:scratch::scratch::scratch::shrug:

DDrago2
11-24-2011, 11:13 PM
roasted in the Toast finals!

dedicated to SDG, Foxy, Topspindoctor and TheRafaelNadal

and what's with Raffa=Fed Killa?

helvet empire
11-24-2011, 11:14 PM
and what's with Raffa=Fed Killa?

he's probably a double account of one of these trolls anyways

danieln1
11-24-2011, 11:15 PM
Tsonga eliminated Nadal from the tourney :bounce:

Should have been easier though, Rafa should learn from Tsonga how to play on the net

castle007
11-24-2011, 11:15 PM
i dont think i have ever seen him play this poorly.

the slide continues.

there is a way out but he is too fucking stubborn and stupid to fix it: he has to go park his ass on clay and stay there for a few months. clay can fix ground game, his consistency, and his confidence. that means more practice on clay and it also means saying no to any extra hard court acitivity (singles and doubles.

because at this current rate he will soon not be able win on any surface.

his infatuation with hard courts ruined him as a player.


Uhhhh.... you do realize that 2/3 of the tennis year is played on HCs, right? It is reality and Nadal knows it. He has to try to do well on it if he wants his number 1 ranking back. Now you want him to go back to the way he played pre 2008, back when he was chasing Federer? I only see that happening if he finally burns out. Who know when or if that will happen. Also, he played worse than this at then end of 2009, and came back on fire the next year. I am not sure if he will come back the same way next year. A healthy Djokovic seems to have his number, and Federer will play his heart out next in order to win a slam.

Commander Data
11-24-2011, 11:15 PM
i dont think i have ever seen him play this poorly.

the slide continues.

there is a way out but he is too fucking stubborn and stupid to fix it: he has to go park his ass on clay and stay there for a few months. clay can fix his ground game, his consistency, and his confidence. that means more practice on clay and it also means saying no to any extra hard court acitivity (singles and doubles.

because at this current rate he will soon not be able win on any surface.

his infatuation with hard courts has ruined him as a player.

agreed. He probably would need to to something drastic like that to turn things around. His footwork, attitude on court and confidence in his shoots are all at an all-time low. Things can quickly get ugly for Nadal if goes down further that road.

the endless running on HC will take its toll eventually. Nadal must be smart to delay that day.

Singularity
11-24-2011, 11:16 PM
i dont think i have ever seen him play this poorly.

the slide continues.

there is a way out but he is too fucking stubborn and stupid to fix it: he has to go park his ass on clay and stay there for a few months. clay can fix his ground game, his consistency, and his confidence. that means more practice on clay and it also means saying no to any extra hard court acitivity (singles and doubles.

because at this current rate he will soon not be able win on any surface.

his infatuation with hard courts has ruined him as a player.
How is this any different from the end of 2009? Nadal's always done poorly at the end of the season.

His ground game was great at the USO; his serve and return were lacking.

Geo
11-24-2011, 11:17 PM
:worship: good work, Tsonga. He probably should have won in straight sets, but that doesn't matter. Nadal should have been 0-3, but Fish was useless as usual this week.

Tsonga has a good chance at reaching the final IMO :shrug:

sylacauga
11-24-2011, 11:17 PM
Who won the coin toss?

simplet
11-24-2011, 11:18 PM
Lol hilarious quote by Tsonga before the match : "[Playing Nadal] it's like going hunting. If you miss the boar you better run fast".

Plenty of boar for everyone tonight, Tsonga is gonna feel like Obelix. After all it looks like he fell into the magic potion too eh

TheRafaelNadal
11-24-2011, 11:21 PM
Crappy tournament noone cares. DC is more important.

hisham70
11-24-2011, 11:22 PM
Please no Fed-Tsonga final again.

Corey Feldman
11-24-2011, 11:22 PM
Lol hilarious quote by Tsonga before the match : "[Playing Nadal] it's like going hunting. If you miss the boar you better run fast".

Plenty of boar for everyone tonight, Tsonga is gonna feel like Obelix. After all it looks like he fell into the magic potion too ehah ah

Pirata.
11-24-2011, 11:23 PM
Tout çà pour montrer que les Espagnols sont pas dopés , merci Rafa t'es un vrai champion ;-)

Translation of the (now deleted) @tsonga7 tweet: "All this to show that Spaniards are not doped. Thanks Rafa, you're a real champ."

:eek:

Gagsquet
11-24-2011, 11:24 PM
Better luck next time Rafa. Rest up until Monte-Carlo :kiss:

castle007
11-24-2011, 11:24 PM
:eek:


haha is that real?

shadows
11-24-2011, 11:25 PM
:eek:

:worship:

that's gold

Commander Data
11-24-2011, 11:25 PM
Who won the coin toss?

Good question!

Pirata.
11-24-2011, 11:26 PM
haha is that real?

Apparently--it was just posted to twitter and then deleted a moment later, but people on my timeline are still talking about it. Can't believe his PR people would be that stupid :stupid:

vojomocart
11-24-2011, 11:26 PM
Tsonga was so tired in the last set, it is strange how he managed to win this.
But all kudos to him, started S&V, not giving any rhytm to Rafa.....
Better player won!

rocketassist
11-24-2011, 11:27 PM
i dont think i have ever seen him play this poorly.

the slide continues.

there is a way out but he is too fucking stubborn and stupid to fix it: he has to go park his ass on clay and stay there for a few months. clay can fix his ground game, his consistency, and his confidence. that means more practice on clay and it also means saying no to any extra hard court acitivity (singles and doubles.

because at this current rate he will soon not be able win on any surface.

his infatuation with hard courts has ruined him as a player.

Both that and most of the hard courts being slower than ass have contributed. Especially the IW and Miami tournaments. They're ridiculously slow, and he's running an awful lot of mileage in those events, look how long his final with Djokovic was and how much it took out of them. Had that been a five setter they'd have been in hospital with two broken legs.

Not saying this cause of personal preference but he's got a choice of playing and going all the way in these slow-ass HCs and doing his joints in or skipping them unless they speed the courts up. He's won the US Open and Dubai on faster HCs.

Time Violation
11-24-2011, 11:29 PM
Lol hilarious quote by Tsonga before the match : "[Playing Nadal] it's like going hunting. If you miss the boar you better run fast".

Plenty of boar for everyone tonight, Tsonga is gonna feel like Obelix. After all it looks like he fell into the magic potion too eh

Did he really say that? :eek: :haha:

samanosuke
11-24-2011, 11:29 PM
fuck you nadal . I am still emotionally empty from your previous defeat and you have already lost the next match . Put yourself together man and stop stealing the Christmas from people

Corey Feldman
11-24-2011, 11:29 PM
Mugboar!

rocketassist
11-24-2011, 11:31 PM
Made up that the pro-active player won though, doesn't happen often at the top of the game.

Given the court speed, he did well to keep it going and to come in at the right times.

simplet
11-24-2011, 11:32 PM
Apparently--it was just posted to twitter and then deleted a moment later, but people on my timeline are still talking about it. Can't believe his PR people would be that stupid :stupid:

No way he had time to tweet that 10 minutes after the game, without even taking a shower. Would be hilarious though.

Egreen
11-24-2011, 11:35 PM
Tout çà pour montrer que les Espagnols sont pas dopés , merci Rafa t'es un vrai champion ;-)



:eek:

What will he say if Ferrer beats him? :lol:

solowyn
11-24-2011, 11:36 PM
I am sooooooo happy xD

My god I was getting nervous when Tsonga started going awol after the great first set.

dsand[sadsd

when he choked in the third @ 5-2 I almost had a heart attack.

Phew lol!!

Could even make the finals now, it's been a good year to be a Tsonga fan, and he's finishing up well.
Aww I'm not allowed to rep you :lol: :cheerleader:

Jo :yeah: Sweet control on the volleys tonight, badass stuff.

alter ego
11-24-2011, 11:38 PM
Lol hilarious quote by Tsonga before the match : "[Playing Nadal] it's like going hunting. If you miss the boar you better run fast".

Plenty of boar for everyone tonight, Tsonga is gonna feel like Obelix. After all it looks like he fell into the magic potion too eh

Just promoted Tsonga as my 3rd favourite player after that comment. :haha:

solowyn
11-24-2011, 11:39 PM
:eek:
:rolls: That is so awkward, omg.

tnosugar
11-24-2011, 11:45 PM
i dont think i have ever seen him play this poorly.

the slide continues.

there is a way out but he is too fucking stubborn and stupid to fix it: he has to go park his ass on clay and stay there for a few months. clay can fix his ground game, his consistency, and his confidence. that means more practice on clay and it also means saying no to any extra hard court acitivity (singles and doubles.

because at this current rate he will soon not be able win on any surface.

his infatuation with hard courts has ruined him as a player.

and made him the no. 1 as well. you have to play on all of them to have it all.

Sapeod
11-24-2011, 11:45 PM
Bye bye Nadull. Nice one, Tsonga, knocking out that cheater :yeah:

Rogieva
11-24-2011, 11:47 PM
Whats the situation now them...Who's in the semis?!

shadows
11-24-2011, 11:52 PM
Whats the situation now them...Who's in the semis?!

Fed plays Djokovic or Berdych
Tsonga plays Ferrer

(I think)

tnosugar
11-24-2011, 11:52 PM
agreed. He probably would need to to something drastic like that to turn things around. His footwork, attitude on court and confidence in his shoots are all at an all-time low. Things can quickly get ugly for Nadal if goes down further that road.

the endless running on HC will take its toll eventually. Nadal must be smart to delay that day.

but what does smart mean. he can't play at the net, he doesn't have a killer serve, he's so into his top-spin shots that he could never transition to some flat, penetrating Berdych style shots now. The season was just too long for both him and Novak. And he still has to perform at the DC final. That's ruthless.

Rogieva
11-24-2011, 11:53 PM
Fed plays Djokovic or Berdych
Tsonga plays Ferrer

(I think)

Thanks!

samanosuke
11-24-2011, 11:54 PM
Only thing that is saving Nadal from more destructions is his leftyness , and so bad match up for the majority of the guys because of that . Today, Tsonga would have humiliated him if there was no that natural lefty serve on Tsonga's BH . It was only thing that kept him on life . Vamos Spanish Karlović

Kworb
11-24-2011, 11:57 PM
Whats the situation now them...Who's in the semis?!

If Tipsarevic and Berdych both win, then SFs:
Federer vs. Ferrer, Tsonga vs. Berdych

If Berdych loses, then SFs:
Federer vs. Djokovic, Tsonga vs. Ferrer

If Berdych wins in two sets, then SFs:
Federer vs. Berdych, Tsonga vs. Ferrer

If Berdych wins in three sets and Djokovic wins in three sets, then SFs:
Federer vs. Berdych, Tsonga vs. Ferrer

If Berdych wins in three sets and Djokovic wins in two sets, then SFs:
Federer vs. Djokovic, Tsonga vs. Ferrer

solowyn
11-25-2011, 12:03 AM
Rafa's presser:

"I had less passion for the game those past weeks because I'm more tired. I didn't do anything special tonight, 3rd set was a disaster.."

"I trained well but I am not in the right mind to compete right now."

:sadface:

samanosuke
11-25-2011, 12:04 AM
SDG cooling his head somewhere like he usually does after nadal's defeat . doesn't want to say anything hastily till the head is still hot

helvet empire
11-25-2011, 12:05 AM
Rafa's presser:

"J'ai moins de passion pour le tennis. Je suis fatigué. Je me suis bien entrainé, ms je ne suis pas en forme pour faire concurrence"

"I have less passion for tennis [since USO]. I am much more tired. I trained well but I am not in the right mind to compete right now."

:sadface:

retirement announcement after davis cup loss?:devil::devil::devil::worship:

Corey Feldman
11-25-2011, 12:09 AM
Toni Nadal "i will be surprised if Rafa hasnt retired in 4 months time"

tektonac
11-25-2011, 12:11 AM
nadal clearly out of form, congrats to tsonga for the SF.

Certinfy
11-25-2011, 12:30 AM
Nadal wasn't good from the beginning really but he played well enough to keep competitive.

As for Tsonga, as a whole what a performance! :worship: Absolutely loved it! :)

Topspindoctor
11-25-2011, 12:38 AM
Nadal losing to Clownga is pathetic, he played at like 15%. Let's hope he just forgets this year and comes back with batteries fully charged in 2012.

the graduate
11-25-2011, 12:58 AM
Nadal needs to take a long break to retool his game because he has lost a step and players now know how to beat him....
Tsonga will win a slam before he retires....possibly Wimbledon:worship:

rocketassist
11-25-2011, 12:59 AM
This match adds weight to the claim Tsonga really screwed up that Wimbledon SF.

Orka_n
11-25-2011, 01:29 AM
Couldn't watch it but congrats Jo. Nadal really is a non-factor indoors.

JanKowalski
11-25-2011, 02:44 AM
Toni Nadal "i will be surprised if Rafa hasnt retired in 4 months time"

WTF?

thrust
11-25-2011, 02:51 AM
but what does smart mean. he can't play at the net, he doesn't have a killer serve, he's so into his top-spin shots that he could never transition to some flat, penetrating Berdych style shots now. The season was just too long for both him and Novak. And he still has to perform at the DC final. That's ruthless.

Rafa doesn't have to play DC, Spain can win without him.

PiggyGotRoasted
11-25-2011, 02:58 AM
:eek:
I knew it was a tank, there is now way such a big hitter like nadal on his best surface could lose to tsonga a baseline grinder.

fast_clay
11-25-2011, 03:17 AM
i dont think i have ever seen him play this poorly.

the slide continues.

there is a way out but he is too fucking stubborn and stupid to fix it: he has to go park his ass on clay and stay there for a few months. clay can fix his ground game, his consistency, and his confidence. that means more practice on clay and it also means saying no to any extra hard court acitivity (singles and doubles.

because at this current rate he will soon not be able win on any surface.

his infatuation with hard courts has ruined him as a player.

moving to the clay won't help him...

look at who is waiting...

this picture of Uber Fit Dave was taken only some hours back...

it is safe to say that whenever Dave's triple chin goes missing that Nadal is in deep shit

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/patma2003/davenalby.jpg

tektonac
11-25-2011, 03:19 AM
slimbandian :lol:

SetSampras
11-25-2011, 03:41 AM
Not surprised considering Nadal's level and form at this tournament. didn't watch the match but Im surprised it even went 3 set. What happened? Rafa uncharacteristically choke the 1st set away?

tripwires
11-25-2011, 03:54 AM
Dave :hearts:

I know WTF isn't over yet but I can't wait for the DC final!

Back to the match: unsurprising results and unsurprising to hear that Tsonga served 3 DFs at 5-2 third set. :lol: Will try to catch the replay.

shiaben
11-25-2011, 04:00 AM
Tsonga always makes it a mountain for himself to climb. Matches that should be 6-3 6-3 end up turning into this mess. Typical Tsonga, at least the man did not choke.

SelvenluvJo
11-25-2011, 04:20 AM
Jo :wonderful: :goodluck: :armed:

Mountaindewslave
11-25-2011, 05:11 AM
Nadal did not play well at all... quite bad. the only reason he had a chance in the second was because Tsonga suddenly went brainless again. Tsonga definitely deserved this match, but he himself is not playing all that well and is unlikely to have success in the SF's.

Good luck to Nadal in Spain for Davis CUp and hopefully a rejuvinated and entirely different player than the past few months shows up in 2012!

MuzzahLovah
11-25-2011, 07:14 AM
Toni Nadal "i will be surprised if Rafa hasnt retired in 4 months time"

Source?

abraxas21
11-25-2011, 07:17 AM
better player won

solowyn
11-25-2011, 07:22 AM
Source?
Lol.

nole_no1
11-25-2011, 07:42 AM
I'm surprised Nadal took a set

Ben.
11-25-2011, 08:06 AM
Expected result. You can tell because this is only page 8 :lol:

I don't really have anything to say about Rafa that I haven't already. It might be the end for him or it might be the thing that makes him look hard at his game and schedule, finally. Even then though, you have to think 2012 is the last year he can be really competitive, he has just played so much grinding tennis at this point. It has been a phenomenal seven years but it has clearly caught up with him, though later than everyone expected. With the courts designed to protect the top players, in other words slowed right down, then this kind of steep decline could be what to expect to happen to others in the future.

Kat_YYZ
11-25-2011, 08:10 AM
Expected result. You can tell because this is only page 8 :lol:

I don't really have anything to say about Rafa that I haven't already. It might be the end for him or it might be the thing that makes him look hard at his game and schedule, finally. Even then though, you have to think 2012 is the last year he can be really competitive, he has just played so much grinding tennis at this point. It has been a phenomenal seven years but it has clearly caught up with him, though later than everyone expected. With the courts designed to protect the top players, in other words slowed right down, then this kind of steep decline could be what to expect to happen to others in the future.

It wasn't. scissor-happy mods :(

Time Violation
11-25-2011, 10:49 AM
Source?

:lol:

yuri27
11-25-2011, 12:24 PM
Tsonga always makes it a mountain for himself to climb. Matches that should be 6-3 6-3 end up turning into this mess. Typical Tsonga, at least the man did not choke.

That's what happens when you don't have a ROS.

nalbyfan
11-25-2011, 01:22 PM
Even clown Kinder Bueno can beat Armanifatbutt...now, everybody can see how overrated this Spanish guy is

Commander Data
11-25-2011, 01:24 PM
but what does smart mean. he can't play at the net, he doesn't have a killer serve, he's so into his top-spin shots that he could never transition to some flat, penetrating Berdych style shots now. The season was just too long for both him and Novak. And he still has to perform at the DC final. That's ruthless.

Well, I do not know, but it is obvious that his style needs huge amounts of mental and physical power. So I would say extremely well scheduling combined with some mental balance to recover as much as possible in between Slams. Maybe take a month off around X-mas or something. Nadal always claims he goes back to training immediately when not playing, I don0t think that is sustainable unless he wants to retire soon...

A better serve would help too...

Rafa's presser:

"I had less passion for the game those past weeks because I'm more tired. I didn't do anything special tonight, 3rd set was a disaster.."

"I trained well but I am not in the right mind to compete right now."

:sadface:

see above.

MariaV
11-25-2011, 01:25 PM
Win win all round. Not the greatest match but Tsonga's backhand smash and volleying were excellent. Lucky he had the insurance break in the 3rd and didn't need to serve it out.

Nadal can now go back to Spain and prepare for DC final.

Spain will still spank Argentina! :ras: :D

MariaV
11-25-2011, 01:28 PM
Well, I do not know, but it is obvious that his style needs huge amounts of mental and physical power. So I would say extremely well scheduling combined with some mental balance to recover as much as possible in between Slams. Maybe take a month off around X-mas or something. Nadal always claims he goes back to training immediately when not playing, I don0t think that is sustainable unless he wants to retire soon...

A better serve would help too...


The serve was truly atrocious but maybe it has to do with the alledged shoulder injury before WTF. :o
His early retirement would be greeted by all his hatas though, no? :p :D

Sunset of Age
11-25-2011, 02:15 PM
Expected result, considering the surface and the current form of both.

Tsonga showed some amazing tennis at times, his volleys and netplay in general were just awesome. Some of those volleys got me reaching for my jaw on the floor a couple of floors below my own. Splendid aggressive HC tennis indeed. :eek: :worship:
Those who claim that he still made too many UEs should realize that this comes naturally with his game style - awesome winners when his shots work, UEs when they don't, and not much in between of that. A deserved victory for Jo-Willie.

The match would have been over in straights if it weren't for Rafa's relentless fighting - to me it was obvious that he really tried to give it his all, but his current form just doesn't allow for much more than he actually managed. His serve especially let him down all too often and I was actually surprised that Tsonga couldn't manage to take more chances at Rafa's notably weak (second) serve. Still, all kudos for putting up a good fight, and now rest up for the DC final, Rafa! :hug:

Oh and never write off a great champion - again. We'll have to see how Rafa will be doing in the upcoming season again, but I think a break and some well-deserved rest might do him wonders. It's all too understandable that the guy is tired right now (more even so mentally imho) after all these long years on the top of the game, but it's too early to write him off. We've yet to see whether Djokovic will be able to maintain his ultra-high level of most of the 2011 season and should he falter I bet Rafa will try and do everything to overtake him again. At least I hope so. :)

lilygotsilly
11-25-2011, 04:02 PM
i dont think i have ever seen him play this poorly.

the slide continues.

there is a way out but he is too fucking stubborn and stupid to fix it: he has to go park his ass on clay and stay there for a few months. clay can fix his ground game, his consistency, and his confidence. that means more practice on clay and it also means saying no to any extra hard court acitivity (singles and doubles.

because at this current rate he will soon not be able win on any surface.

his infatuation with hard courts has ruined him as a player.

Great observation! He's pushed himself so far out of his comfort zone that now it seems he's forgotten how to play his bread and butter.

Fed said the slower courts this year in Paris and London actually helped give him more time on the backhand. Also , he was able to hit the running fh better - he has slowed down on that shot recently - but the slower courts give him a chance to still hit a nice shot off that side.

Nadal always says he lacks faster courts and everyone laughs - but I wonder if the slower court thing actually helped Fed in some way and hurt Nadal's new hard court aggression as he doesnt get the same pace now.

But in the end - we could talk forever - but its pretty simple - Nadal has a damaged mind and body -for more reasons than Novak. Anyone seeing him play even back in 2005 could guess this would come pretty early for him.

lilygotsilly
11-25-2011, 04:04 PM
moving to the clay won't help him...

look at who is waiting...

this picture of Uber Fit Dave was taken only some hours back...

it is safe to say that whenever Dave's triple chin goes missing that Nadal is in deep shit

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/patma2003/davenalby.jpg

Great Pic - thanks

Wow, it looks like Nalby is finally laying off the boozin and whorin -- Are we to expect a big 2012??

StevoTG
11-25-2011, 04:26 PM
Great Pic - thanks

Wow, it looks like Nalby is finally laying off the boozin and whorin -- Are we to expect a big 2012??

Well, if Argentina win then he'll possibly party 'til the new year.

Hian-GOAT
11-25-2011, 04:29 PM
:inlove: God exists :inlove:

STUHL
11-25-2011, 04:35 PM
Tennis won, clearly! :)

Corey Feldman
11-25-2011, 04:45 PM
:inlove: God exists :inlove:and he beat nadal 6-3 6-0 already this week

rocketassist
11-25-2011, 05:10 PM
Expected result. You can tell because this is only page 8 :lol:

I don't really have anything to say about Rafa that I haven't already. It might be the end for him or it might be the thing that makes him look hard at his game and schedule, finally. Even then though, you have to think 2012 is the last year he can be really competitive, he has just played so much grinding tennis at this point. It has been a phenomenal seven years but it has clearly caught up with him, though later than everyone expected. With the courts designed to protect the top players, in other words slowed right down, then this kind of steep decline could be what to expect to happen to others in the future.

Yep. Short term success without lasting longevity.

Start da Game
11-25-2011, 08:05 PM
congrats to action jackson......

ChampionshipPoints
11-25-2011, 08:36 PM
Good win by Jo. Hopefully he'll keep improving next year.

AllezUSA
11-25-2011, 08:55 PM
Yep. Short term success without lasting longevity.

Congrats to Jo-Willy for refusing to bow down to the dirt-rat Spaniards and their "avant-garde" training techniques!

Crazy Girl
11-25-2011, 09:13 PM
Better luck next time Rafa. Rest up until Monte-Carlo :kiss:

:spit::spit:

Crazy Girl
11-25-2011, 09:19 PM
slimbandian :lol:


ahahahahahhaah YES!!!!! :lol::lol:
very happy for my third favourite player!!!
SLIMBANDIAN!!!! GO DAVID!!!

Guy Haines
11-25-2011, 09:20 PM
:spit::spit:

Monte Carlo is less laughable than Estoril. :angel:

RogerFedererNo1
11-25-2011, 09:31 PM
Monte Carlo is less laughable than Estoril. :angel:

The tournament Federer has won most often is Wimbledon, not Estoril :wavey:

Guy Haines
11-25-2011, 09:44 PM
Yes, yes. But he had his spell where Estoril was what he could cling to.

Guy Haines
11-25-2011, 09:52 PM
Ugh, snore, yes just like this year Nadal won RG. Split hairs much?

Kat_YYZ
11-26-2011, 02:58 AM
Nadal fans: "Rafa didn't care at all about this tournament" :shrug:
(actual photo from the match below)
http://tennis.com/galleries/gallery/News/201111241626591794813-p2@stats.com.jpg
Tsonga fans: Haters gonna hate! :lol:
http://tennis.com/galleries/gallery/News/201111241737634244888-p2@stats.com.jpg

guga2120
11-26-2011, 03:00 AM
Nadal fans: "Rafa didn't care at all about this tournament" :shrug:
(actual photo from the match below)


Rafa would do that in a playstation match.