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How many good years do Roger, Nole and Rafa have left?

SetSampras
11-22-2011, 06:01 PM
In terms of being threats at the slams,YEC, Masters et. Could '12 be Roger's last hurrah? Maybe 2013 for Rafa. Depending on whether or not Nole can stay healthy maybe 2014?

Chris Kuerten
11-22-2011, 06:06 PM
I really believe Federer can be top 10 untill he's 35, 2016. It's more a matter of motivation.

Nadal 2013 or 2014 as the last year he can be relevant.

Djokovic has the magic egg, so I'm writing him down for 2016.

sexybeast
11-22-2011, 06:16 PM
Federer will probably outlast Nadal, Djokovic I dont know.

Federer might play until his late 30s like Agassi, Nadal should retire in 2,3 years. Djokovic might have injury problems ahead.

I cant see them beeing top 3 still in 2014 to tell the truth, Nadal should fall by then. Murray might outlast Djokovic and have his best time when Djokovic and Nadal have their fall from grace.

Thing is the young generation in this era sucks, I think there will soon be a transitional era with avarage players winning slams like in early 00s. Federer might still have his chanses with easy draws like Agassi had in Australia in his early 30s.

Silvester
11-22-2011, 06:57 PM
Federer will probably outlast Nadal, Djokovic I dont know.

Federer might play until his late 30s like Agassi, Nadal should retire in 2,3 years. Djokovic might have injury problems ahead.

I cant see them beeing top 3 still in 2014 to tell the truth, Nadal should fall by then. Murray might outlast Djokovic and have his best time when Djokovic and Nadal have their fall from grace.

Thing is the young generation in this era sucks, I think there will soon be a transitional era with avarage players winning slams like in early 00s. Federer might still have his chanses with easy draws like Agassi had in Australia in his early 30s.


THIS

where are the young 18,19yrs olds pushing for top 10 rankings like we used to have???

sexybeast
11-22-2011, 08:56 PM
THIS

where are the young 18,19yrs olds pushing for top 10 rankings like we used to have???

18, 19? We dont even have 22 year olds....

The next generation will be nothing compared to Nadal's or Federer's generation. I think it might be the lazy computer generation that didnt grow up playing outdoors coming up.

syc23
11-22-2011, 09:26 PM
Roger will probably play on for another 3-4 years and still be in contention for slams. Djokovic and Murray should outlast Nadal and will be splitting some slams in the next 5-6 years. Nadal? Not sure given that he looks lost since going 0-6 to Nole in 2011...

atennisfan
11-22-2011, 09:53 PM
18, 19? We dont even have 22 year olds....

The next generation will be nothing compared to Nadal's or Federer's generation. I think it might be the lazy computer generation that didnt grow up playing outdoors coming up.

Tennis is now so much more physical games. Even talented young players do not really get a chance until they fully developed their physicality.

atennisfan
11-22-2011, 09:54 PM
I think Roger will retire in 2013.

FedvsNole
11-22-2011, 09:57 PM
Have seen better movement from federer this year than last. His backhand has improved and the serve has gotten better although less aces. He has emphasized improving his return game which i can say has been much better since basel. End of the day federer is more and more of an offensive player and that alone will keep him knocking at the door easily till end of 2013 and notably injury free based on his playing style.


Wheras nadal and djoker rely much more on defensive tennis which is much more detrimental to their health and grinding long matches I see it actually getting easier for federer to defeat them over the next few years as their bodies will break down and they will lose the ability to defend like they are and they will be injury ridden like most tennis players. Federer's playing style saves his body whereas the other two destroy theirs.

Yilansan
11-22-2011, 10:02 PM
Nadal is done so is Djoker. Federer may still be a constant threat to GS upto 2014.

EliSter
11-22-2011, 10:05 PM
JesusFed will go into the the future time, find meds for longer life and revitalizing and he will own till 2030...where he will finally retire with 88 slams.

Salvy41
11-22-2011, 10:07 PM
Tennis is now so much more physical games. Even talented young players do not really get a chance until they fully developed their physicality.

Very good point.

Egreen
11-22-2011, 11:03 PM
In terms of being threats at the slams,YEC, Masters et. Could '12 be Roger's last hurrah? Maybe 2013 for Rafa. Depending on whether or not Nole can stay healthy maybe 2014?

Something like that...

Nole fan
11-22-2011, 11:09 PM
All the fed trolls at once. :lol:

JurajCrane
11-22-2011, 11:18 PM
This era of Federers, Nadals, Djokovics need a support in young guns. A reason is not to create a huge hole of nothing when they will consecutively slow down a little bit.

I hope, that young guns will make an impact in 2012, mainly Raonic, Tomic, Harrison, Stebe and Nishikori. But unfortunately, nowadays it is not only a question of talent, but also massive psysical ability.

Saberq
11-22-2011, 11:56 PM
This era of Federers, Nadals, Djokovics need a support in young guns. A reason is not to create a huge hole of nothing when they will consecutively slow down a little bit.

I hope, that young guns will make an impact in 2012, mainly Raonic, Tomic, Harrison, Stebe and Nishikori. But unfortunately, nowadays it is not only a question of talent, but also massive psysical ability.

None of them are good enough or will be good enough to beat them ...EVER

emotion
11-23-2011, 01:44 AM
Nadal is fading faster than Fed, no question. But Fed started fading first, so it's a question of whether Nadal gets worse than Federer before one retires. I rather think Federer will outlast him after last few months. Federer is at this point faster than Nadal

HKz
11-23-2011, 01:49 AM
Federer will probably outlast Nadal, Djokovic I dont know.

Federer might play until his late 30s like Agassi, Nadal should retire in 2,3 years. Djokovic might have injury problems ahead.

I cant see them beeing top 3 still in 2014 to tell the truth, Nadal should fall by then. Murray might outlast Djokovic and have his best time when Djokovic and Nadal have their fall from grace.

Thing is the young generation in this era sucks, I think there will soon be a transitional era with avarage players winning slams like in early 00s. Federer might still have his chanses with easy draws like Agassi had in Australia in his early 30s.

The one reason why there aren't youngsters at the top of the game anymore - physical ability.

Unless we have another Nadal-type youngster where they are an absolute physical beast early on, we won't see any real youngster being a threat. The sole reason why youngsters were a lot more successful in previous eras was because of less emphasis on physical abilities. Many aren't able to develop their physical strength until their 20s. I think many coaches are still lagging a little behind in that department, as many of these kids that come on the tour come as skinny oddly looking boys despite having great tennis talent. Physical strength as we know is becoming more and more important every year.

Chase Visa
11-23-2011, 05:17 AM
Federer can still be relevant until 2016 or whenever, but will he? He's pretty much achieved anything he's wanted in tennis.

Nadal won't win much outside of clay for the rest of his career I feel, and probably only has a couple of years left in him.

Djokovic I dunno about. He's just peaking right now unlike Federer and Nadal, he will probably remain relevant for a while. But he's also sorta injury-prone. I think he'll stay good till around 2016.

stewietennis
11-23-2011, 05:51 AM
Nadal will fade first – mid 2013 at the latest – he'll be out of the Top 5.

Roger will follow a year or so later. Novak will be a year after that.

Forehander
11-23-2011, 08:09 AM
All the fed trolls at once. :lol:

Can you for once stick to the topic?




Federer still have about 4-5 years I'd say. Djokovic about 3-4 years. Nadal about 2-4 years.

wee
11-23-2011, 08:26 AM
The epoch of Roger Federer may be over already, IMO.

nalbyfan
11-23-2011, 08:44 AM
All of them are always, sick or injured or exhausted...Nole is the younger but his body has cried since USO, not a good sign for the future? He's too skinny, he should take at least 5 kgs to regain strengt and energy

MaxPower
11-23-2011, 08:48 AM
Nadal will fade like Hewitt but at a much slower rate. I think he's already peaked and the peak was 2008. Maybe 2-3 more years in the very top (1-5) then 2-3 years around #5-20 and then I think he either retires or is out of the top20.

Federer probably only has 1-2 years left in #1-3 but I could see him stick around #3-10 maybe 3-4 more years. Then he might still be playing but not in the top10.

Djokovic might be peaking right now so should logically have the most time left. I could see him sticking around in the top5 for 5-6 more years.

BlueSwan
11-23-2011, 09:08 AM
Nadal has been written off during this part of the season just about EVERY year since around 2006. Yet he always bounces back. Even this season, where people have been talking about how much of a mug he is, he still won RG and only lost to Djokovic in the finals of 6 different tournaments, including Wimbledon and the US Open. Had Djokovic been less impressive, Rafa might very well have won three slams this year.

Don't write him off yet.

My best guess, however, is that both Federer and Nadal are past their prime, while Djokovic will probably remain on top in 2012. From then on I see other players starting to take over. Nothing last forever, not even the Fedal(-ovic) era.

With regards to Federer, he COULD probably stay in contention for a number of years yet, but I don't think he can keep up the motivation. It's basic psychology really. When you're used to achieving greatness, then less will not do. At the moment he feels he's still got a point to prove so he stays somewhat motivated. The moment a new generation starts taking over, I think Federer will call it a day. Probably in 2013. Agassi was a different story because he was very much a case of a promise unfulfilled after a career of ups and downs. He had a point to prove and the talent to do it and is an EXCEPTION to the general rule. Federer also has the talent, but soon won't feel like he has a point to prove anymore. Being a massive Fed-fan I would love to be proven wrong though.

Gandalf
11-23-2011, 09:21 AM
Federer will probably retire in 2013, unless he has a horrendous 2012 (which is unlikely) and retires at the end of the year. If he is still a factor at the Slams in 2013 (which I find unlikely) he will probably go on.

I think Nadal has still 3-4 good years left, he's had bad periods before and he has always come back, so I am not too worried.

Djokovic, I expect him to be demotivated and drop from number 1 next year and to return to the top in 2013-2014...but I don't think tennis is his all as it is for Nadal and Federer, I can see him retiring at 27-28 if he is satisfied with what he's achieved (which I think he already is) specially if he can sneak a French Open. If he doesn't get the gold medal next year maybe he will wait until 2016, but that would be the maximum.

sexybeast
11-23-2011, 09:58 AM
The one reason why there aren't youngsters at the top of the game anymore - physical ability.

Unless we have another Nadal-type youngster where they are an absolute physical beast early on, we won't see any real youngster being a threat. The sole reason why youngsters were a lot more successful in previous eras was because of less emphasis on physical abilities. Many aren't able to develop their physical strength until their 20s. I think many coaches are still lagging a little behind in that department, as many of these kids that come on the tour come as skinny oddly looking boys despite having great tennis talent. Physical strength as we know is becoming more and more important every year.

That is the optimistic explanation for why this younger generation is not having any breakthrough. However I have seen most of them and I doubt it is only the physical aspect that is stoping them, we have many players in their 30s still going strong like Ljubo, Stepanek, Fish, Meltzer and Federer ofcourse. I think we might be seeing a missing generation, like the one we had in 98-02, the ones born in the mid 70s, it was a generation with alot of avarage or good players but no one great, we had Johansson, Moya, Haas, Philippoussis and others who just werent up to the challenge of dethroning Sampras and Agassi. It was required to take a leap to the next young generation born in early 80s with Hewitt, Safin beeing first and Federer, Nalbandian and Roddick joining later to dethrone the old guard.

Forehander
11-23-2011, 10:02 AM
Nadal has been written off during this part of the season just about EVERY year since around 2006. Yet he always bounces back. Even this season, where people have been talking about how much of a mug he is, he still won RG and only lost to Djokovic in the finals of 6 different tournaments, including Wimbledon and the US Open. Had Djokovic been less impressive, Rafa might very well have won three slams this year.

Don't write him off yet.

My best guess, however, is that both Federer and Nadal are past their prime, while Djokovic will probably remain on top in 2012. From then on I see other players starting to take over. Nothing last forever, not even the Fedal(-ovic) era.

With regards to Federer, he COULD probably stay in contention for a number of years yet, but I don't think he can keep up the motivation. It's basic psychology really. When you're used to achieving greatness, then less will not do. At the moment he feels he's still got a point to prove so he stays somewhat motivated. The moment a new generation starts taking over, I think Federer will call it a day. Probably in 2013. Agassi was a different story because he was very much a case of a promise unfulfilled after a career of ups and downs. He had a point to prove and the talent to do it and is an EXCEPTION to the general rule. Federer also has the talent, but soon won't feel like he has a point to prove anymore. Being a massive Fed-fan I would love to be proven wrong though.

Knowing his legacy is threatened by Djokovic who is in red hot form will be his motivation for the next 2 years hopefully.

atennisfan
11-23-2011, 10:08 AM
I think once Fed feels he cannot contend to win GS, he'll retire immediately. Being good enough to be in the top 10 is not good enough for him. I think he'll do it in 2013 if not end of 2012.

I feel Nadal will still go on for a good 5 years more, even if his body breaks down now and then. Djokovic is still a mystery. Maybe when he runs out of his secret juice.

sexybeast
11-23-2011, 10:16 AM
Are all guys saying Federer will retire 2012/2013 serious? I mean you think Federer cant see the abyss that awaits the atp tour with the generation coming after this one and with Nadal declining fast and Djokovic with injury problems surely he will stick around while he is healthy and going deep in slams?

If he plays as long as Agassi he could easily play until 2017 when he is 36, he certanly reminds me more of Agassi than Sampras in how he is aging. Also cant you see how much he still enjoys playing tennis (not only winning titles), it doesnt look painful at all out there, not like Sampras who just played to win that last big title while he was going in pieces.

Shinoj
11-23-2011, 10:48 AM
Nadal has been exposed now. His moon balling is not working anymore. I saw the match with federer. And what Federer did was nothing special. He just took the ball on the rise and was a bit more attacking. In the past for some reason i saw Federer just waiting for an instant against Nadal and that was making all the difference. he is not doing it now. All the Top have worked him out now. Djokovic,Murray and now the man who mattered the most Federer.

Now its upto rest of the ATP players to follow the suit and remove the demon of Nadal and play him offensively. If they do it Nadal is gone; he is histroy and Most probably that will happen. But there is a slight chance and that chance fall on the Mugs of this Era like Mardy Fish,Berdych and co. If they choke again and again Nadal will have that confidence going.

sexybeast
11-23-2011, 10:56 AM
Nadal has been exposed now. His moon balling is not working anymore. I saw the match with federer. And what Federer did was nothing special. He just took the ball on the rise and was a bit more attacking. In the past for some reason i saw Federer just waiting for an instant against Nadal and that was making all the difference. he is not doing it now. All the Top have worked him out now. Djokovic,Murray and now the man who mattered the most Federer.

Now its upto rest of the ATP players to follow the suit and remove the demon of Nadal and play him offensively. If they do it Nadal is gone; he is histroy and Most probably that will happen. But there is a slight chance and that chance fall on the Mugs of this Era like Mardy Fish,Berdych and co. If they choke again and again Nadal will have that confidence going.

It is worth remembering that in surfaces were the ball bounce is irregular and the wind puts further effect on Nadal's topspin Federer cant play like he did yesterday.

Chase Visa
11-23-2011, 11:01 AM
People are getting over-excited about 1 game. Nadal will most likely fight back. If he doesn't, it's game over.

Shinoj
11-23-2011, 11:53 AM
It is worth remembering that in surfaces were the ball bounce is irregular and the wind puts further effect on Nadal's topspin Federer cant play like he did yesterday.

Which are the irregular surfaces? Are you referring to Clay? Actually Federer played Nadal the same way as yday in Madrid 09.And it was almost the same result.

sexybeast
11-23-2011, 12:03 PM
Which are the irregular surfaces? Are you referring to Clay? Actually Federer played Nadal the same way as yday in Madrid 09.And it was almost the same result.

He cant take the ball on the rise with his backhand on clay without some shanks, it is impossible with a onehanded backhand. Either you stay far back and hit mega swings like Gasquet which Federer cant do or you risk having shanks taking the ball on the rise. Against other opponents Federer usually slice alot when the ball gets high up on his backhand but I think this is dangerous stuff against Nadal on clay, even if he used the slice better than ever against Nadal yesterday.

Shinoj
11-23-2011, 12:14 PM
He cant take the ball on the rise with his backhand on clay without some shanks, it is impossible with a onehanded backhand. Either you stay far back and hit mega swings like Gasquet which Federer cant do or you risk having shanks taking the ball on the rise. Against other opponents Federer usually slice alot when the ball gets high up on his backhand but I think this is dangerous stuff against Nadal on clay, even if he used the slice better than ever against Nadal yesterday.

Madrid was a claycourt. And he played exactly the same way. And the Claycourts these days play more or less like hard courts. Quite consistent. I am positive on this.

And staying back is not his game. Hitting it on the rise like the way he played during 2004-2007

nalbyfan
11-23-2011, 12:16 PM
I think once Fed feels he cannot contend to win GS, he'll retire immediately. Being good enough to be in the top 10 is not good enough for him. I think he'll do it in 2013 if not end of 2012.

I feel Nadal will still go on for a good 5 years more, even if his body breaks down now and then. Djokovic is still a mystery. Maybe when he runs out of his secret juice.

So Rolex poseur should have retired for a long time...it's obvious that he's no more able to win a GS, except if Armanishakirafatbutt, Nole, Muzza, Kinder Bueno, Berdych and many more are all injured on the same time in all GS...

sexybeast
11-23-2011, 01:04 PM
Madrid was a claycourt. And he played exactly the same way. And the Claycourts these days play more or less like hard courts. Quite consistent. I am positive on this.

And staying back is not his game. Hitting it on the rise like the way he played during 2004-2007

Well, Nadal wasnt at his best in Madrid at all. Might be the only time I agree with Nadaltards, it doesnt really count for much. Federer played better in RG this year than he did in Madrid and definetly much better in Rome 2006 and Hamburg 2007.

Shinoj
11-23-2011, 01:21 PM
Well, Nadal wasnt at his best in Madrid at all. Might be the only time I agree with Nadaltards, it doesnt really count for much. Federer played better in RG this year than he did in Madrid and definetly much better in Rome 2006 and Hamburg 2007.

Yeah Nadal was a bit tired,people say but Federer was taking his chances from point 1 and he was all over Nadal. Quite clearly it was different from the way he approaches Nadal usually. To me it is a Prototype for Success of Federer against Nadal. That he should freeze and keep looking at it whenever he gets defeated. And he played exactly like that yday

And in RGs Federer plays like a defeated man from Set 1.

dodo
11-23-2011, 01:23 PM
Of course Nadal was not at his best in Madrid. Of course he was not at his best yesterday. So what? Federer's muggery has been abundant and well-documented throughout their rivalry. In the end, a win is a win, even if there are even more ridiculous circumstances (eg Nalby vs Roddick at that USO).

sexybeast
11-23-2011, 02:07 PM
Of course Nadal was not at his best in Madrid. Of course he was not at his best yesterday. So what? Federer's muggery has been abundant and well-documented throughout their rivalry. In the end, a win is a win, even if there are even more ridiculous circumstances (eg Nalby vs Roddick at that USO).

Nadal was not physicaly well in Madrid, he was clearly drained. Yesterday he was simply outplayed on his worst surface, maybe he was not his best but there was nothing he could do anyway. A healthy Nadal would beat Federer in Madrid 2009, but no Nadal would even win a set against Federer yesterday.

BroTree123
11-23-2011, 02:12 PM
Gotta feeling that Rafa will retire before Fed. Djoker...no idea. :S

sexybeast
11-23-2011, 02:18 PM
Nadal just doesnt enjoy playing tennis as much as Federer, it is too much hard job and all about winning for Nadal. Federer has that playful tennis on court and a connection with the audience, he seems to be in love with the recognition he gets from the audiance when he for example plays a beautiful shot. I dont think he wants to quit as long as he feels fit and healthy out there.

fsoica
11-23-2011, 02:34 PM
all that is written here will be history and forgotten after AO 2012, but will come back to life during 2012 indoors. Roger will win a slam in 2012 , though...

sexybeast
11-23-2011, 02:36 PM
all that is written here will be superseeded after AO 2012 , but will come back to life during 2012 indoors

You think Djokovic will be as good 2012 as 2011?

I doubt it. He still is the favorite for AO, that much is given.

Start da Game
11-23-2011, 04:26 PM
nadal - 2 more massive years, you never know if 2012 is going to be the biggest year in his career......don't worry about him, he can last till 2016 when he hits 30......fighters fight on no matter what......

i will leave the other two players for their fans to speak......

HKz
11-23-2011, 04:44 PM
Federer is the one questionable player in this argument IMO. His body is surely up for playing many years but no one really knows how long he'll want to keep it up. While he has been able to balance out life, family and tennis quite well, his kids are not going to get any easier for the time being, so who knows what may happen. However, like most people have noted, it certainly wouldn't be surprising to see him playing Agassi-like around his mid 30s. Unlike Agassi, Federer has a much more economical game to shorten points and subsequently games/matches, so it would be extremely interesting if he does stick around for a few years.

Nadal is also a huge question, I really didn't think he would able to hold out physically for so long. If you had asked me this question back in 2006/2007, I would of said somewhere around 2012 would be his last year. Then if you would have asked me back in 2008/2009, I would of said somewhere around 2011 could even be his last. However, now it seems like he won't burn out as quickly as I originally thought, but honestly, it would be very silly for anyone to think he could defy normal physical endurance no matter how much of a physical beast he is. History has shown that players like him just burn out. Sure they sit around for a few years and win a couple 250/500 events like Courier or Chang, but they are ultimately finished at the top of the game. I would say 2013 will actually be his last. It is coming around the corner, and might seem too early but the questionable losses outside of clay and the slams are starting to slightly rack up over the years, more quickly than Federer I think.

Djokovic is in a similar boat with Nadal merely because his game is also based around a physical game, but I have no idea how long he'll stay on the tour. He has yet to sustain any notable injury, so on the basis of becoming burnt out and/or injured too greatly, I don't know where he lies. He could very well continue up to 30 years old, but seeing what type of personality he has, I could also see him just randomly call it quits after racking up a couple more slam titles.

nadal - 2 more massive years, you never know if 2012 is going to be the biggest year in his career......don't worry about him, he can last till 2016 when he hits 30......fighters fight on no matter what......

i will leave the other two players for their fans to speak......

A complete utter fool as always. Still doesn't know how to properly structure his sentences either. Always the next year is the best year for these tards.

Nole fan
11-23-2011, 07:23 PM
Federer is the one questionable player in this argument IMO. His body is surely up for playing many years but no one really knows how long he'll want to keep it up. While he has been able to balance out life, family and tennis quite well, his kids are not going to get any easier for the time being, so who knows what may happen. However, like most people have noted, it certainly wouldn't be surprising to see him playing Agassi-like around his mid 30s. Unlike Agassi, Federer has a much more economical game to shorten points and subsequently games/matches, so it would be extremely interesting if he does stick around for a few years.

Nadal is also a huge question, I really didn't think he would able to hold out physically for so long. If you had asked me this question back in 2006/2007, I would of said somewhere around 2012 would be his last year. Then if you would have asked me back in 2008/2009, I would of said somewhere around 2011 could even be his last. However, now it seems like he won't burn out as quickly as I originally thought, but honestly, it would be very silly for anyone to think he could defy normal physical endurance no matter how much of a physical beast he is. History has shown that players like him just burn out. Sure they sit around for a few years and win a couple 250/500 events like Courier or Chang, but they are ultimately finished at the top of the game. I would say 2013 will actually be his last. It is coming around the corner, and might seem too early but the questionable losses outside of clay and the slams are starting to slightly rack up over the years, more quickly than Federer I think.

Djokovic is in a similar boat with Nadal merely because his game is also based around a physical game, but I have no idea how long he'll stay on the tour. He has yet to sustain any notable injury, so on the basis of becoming burnt out and/or injured too greatly, I don't know where he lies. He could very well continue up to 30 years old, but seeing what type of personality he has, I could also see him just randomly call it quits after racking up a couple more slam titles.



A complete utter fool as always. Still doesn't know how to properly structure his sentences either. Always the next year is the best year for these tards.

And on what do you base this assumption? Nole is super ambitious as a player, he surely will want to win as many as possible. :lol:

TBkeeper
11-23-2011, 07:31 PM
i prefer Federer over Nadal and Nadal over Djokovic BUT !
to be honest guys ... i think it is something like that :
Federer - 2013 (till the end) - after that retires .
Nadal - 2014 (till the end) - after that retires .
Djokovic - 2016 (till the end) - after that retires .
Murray is the mystery so i think for him it is something like that :
Murray - 2015 (till the end) - after that retires .
And because i am a fan of Davydenko :
Davydenko - 2012 (till the end) - after that retires along with Nalbandian , Hewitt and Roddick . (then i'll cry rivers of tears cause Federer's pigeons were my favourite players and for me after 2012 it'll be C'mon Federer , Vamos Nadal , Davay Novak . just cause of the good tennis !
P.S
The guys who are born in the '90s are mugs ..... i don't like their behavior about the little tournaments like ATP 250 and ATP 500 .....

Navratil
11-24-2011, 02:12 PM
I really believe Federer can be top 10 untill he's 35, 2016. It's more a matter of motivation.

Nadal 2013 or 2014 as the last year he can be relevant.

Djokovic has the magic egg, so I'm writing him down for 2016.

Agree. Federer could outlast Nadal and Djokovic if only he can motivate himself for another 5-7 years.

Saberq
11-24-2011, 02:21 PM
Agree. Federer could outlast Nadal and Djokovic if only he can motivate himself for another 5-7 years.

dont be stupid ....

Shinoj
11-24-2011, 02:40 PM
Roger can go one for another good 2 years. he has a easy and natural style of playing that doesnt take much toll on the body and he is smart these days regarding his scheduling. He is doing quite well on this regard

Its Nadull and Djokovic who has to worry. Apparently winning takes its toll on their bodies:lol:

Naudio Spanlatine
11-24-2011, 02:47 PM
They all have plenty of years left, and YES i said FED has plenty of years left too, i mean why not, fed can do what agassi did, and of course nole and rafa have plenty of years left as well, i mean why not, I LIKE ALL THREE OF THEM, so SURPRISE I DO LIKE FED TOO HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA:nerner: :nerner: :nerner:

HKz
11-24-2011, 04:38 PM
And on what do you base this assumption? Nole is super ambitious as a player, he surely will want to win as many as possible. :lol:

Sure, anyone wants to win more, but my comment is just as much of an assumption as your statement. There are plenty of great players who just burn out either mentally or physically after a couple years. We certainly don't know where Novak's head lies for the future, and in my opinion he lacks the very long term dedication. Most of this year would say otherwise, but it just seems he has these lapses where he could care less about tennis.

Start da Game
11-24-2011, 04:43 PM
nadal - 2 more massive years, you never know if 2012 is going to be the biggest year in his career......don't worry about him, he can last till 2016 when he hits 30......fighters fight on no matter what......

i will leave the other two players for their fans to speak......

this.....

Saberq
11-24-2011, 04:53 PM
nadal - 2 more massive years, you never know if 2012 is going to be the biggest year in his career......don't worry about him, he can last till 2016 when he hits 30......fighters fight on no matter what......

i will leave the other two players for their fans to speak......

I agree that Nadal can play for 5 more years on a great level....dont know if 2012 will be his biggest year I doubt that he would have to what win all 4 Slams but I think he can win 2 of them

Sophocles
11-24-2011, 05:03 PM
The good sign for Federer is that at the moment he seems to be moving well to wide balls on his forehand side. Of course I also said this after U.S.O. 2008 and A.O. 2010 and the movement went immediately afterwards.

Nole fan
11-24-2011, 05:22 PM
Sure, anyone wants to win more, but my comment is just as much of an assumption as your statement. There are plenty of great players who just burn out either mentally or physically after a couple years. We certainly don't know where Novak's head lies for the future, and in my opinion he lacks the very long term dedication. Most of this year would say otherwise, but it just seems he has these lapses where he could care less about tennis.

I very much doubt that someone can do what Novak has done this year and four years before without a total commitment to the sport. He's been a consistent number 3 since he got there, never going below that, and this year he just made the extra step to become nº1. I wouldn't say that he lacks long term dedication, it's completely absurd to assume that. :shrug:

Roadmap
11-24-2011, 07:11 PM
I agree that Nadal can play for 5 more years on a great level....dont know if 2012 will be his biggest year I doubt that he would have to what win all 4 Slams but I think he can win 2 of them

:spit: I don't agree. That is one of the funniest things I have ever read on this forum.

incognito
11-24-2011, 07:23 PM
Djokovic is IMHO extremely motivated and dedicated. What we've witnessed the last few matches has nothing to do with a lack of dedication or his body breaking down. It's simply a result of rustiness due to a longer than usual injury layoff combined with poor scheduling. Djokovic feeds off match rhythm, he's had none for months (he said himself that this was his longest break ever) and it's hard to get the groove back fast enough on these indoor courts. He'll stick around longer than most...

As for Federer, I think his main motivation right now is to keep a safe distance to Nadal in terms of GS titles and possibly add another one or two himself along the way, if possible. If Djokovic keeps dominating the field (and Nadal) next year, then Federer might be more inclined to call it a day himself...

As for Nadal, I think he's the most likely to retire before 30 and even if he doesn't, it will become increasingly harder for him to muscle his way through matches and therefore also to remain a GS contender...

SerenaFederer
11-24-2011, 07:31 PM
JesusFed will go into the the future time, find meds for longer life and revitalizing and he will own till 2030...where he will finally retire with 88 slams.

you see this happening too? nice to know i'm not the only one :angel:

sexybeast
11-24-2011, 08:49 PM
Agree. Federer could outlast Nadal and Djokovic if only he can motivate himself for another 5-7 years.
dont be stupid ....

I agree that Nadal can play for 5 more years on a great level....

:lol:

Shinoj
11-25-2011, 12:57 PM
I have huge doubts now over Djokovic's longevity. In the Presser after the match against Ferrer, he was looking quite flat out, de motivated, and was quite comfortable with the loss. Dont know what is it with these tennis players, they are paid like crazy, play the profession they love, have a great lifestyle, but look flat out burned out for no apparent reason. Something i can never understand.

Filo V.
11-25-2011, 01:06 PM
I think Nole and Rafa will be at the top of the game longer than people think, solely because they are just better overall players than the overwhelming majority of the field. But their physical brand of play, Murray too, will catch up to them, and obviously has already as we've seen this WTF. Playing that style of tennis over an entire season takes a tremendous physical and mental toll, and eventually their bodies will give out.

Lopez
11-25-2011, 01:10 PM
I'm honestly a bit scared for Nole at the moment, the off-season isn't really long and he looks spent and way off his game. At least last year he had positive results at the end.

Last year he also played Hopman Cup, we'll see if he does it this year...

Nadal and Federer I feel have only two more years at the top. If I had to pick one of them that had more, it would be Federer. He honestly seems to relish the challenges he now faces, while Nadal seems a lot more defeatist.