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WTF RR: Djokovic 'beats' Berdych 3-6 6-3 7-6(3)

Lleyton_
11-21-2011, 10:10 PM
Bye choker :bigwave:

nsidhan
11-21-2011, 10:10 PM
Chokefest from Berdman in the last set after having MP at 5-4 3rd set.

Good fight from Nole.

Bilbo
11-21-2011, 10:10 PM
good for the game

the short-teethed czech will never be a champion

venky91
11-21-2011, 10:10 PM
http://i54.tinypic.com/303jl3k.jpg

ZaZoo)
11-21-2011, 10:10 PM
Nole saving MP like a boss! :cool:

Goonergal
11-21-2011, 10:11 PM
Berdych :facepalm:

scarecrows
11-21-2011, 10:11 PM
disgusting way to choke a match

shadows
11-21-2011, 10:11 PM
Oh Tomas.

Played inspired tennis at times, but as usual failed to come through when it mattered (repeatedly)

emotion
11-21-2011, 10:11 PM
Berdych :lol: Epic choking

Mountaindewslave
11-21-2011, 10:11 PM
better player loses, what a shame. BErdych played much much better than NOvak this match, unfortunately he hit some wild smash and totally missed on the one MP he had. was ahead in the third set with a break at one point and more break chances. REally really a shame, Djokovic did not win this as much as Berdych gave this away

Geo
11-21-2011, 10:11 PM
Berdych :o That forehand really broke down on match point and in the tiebreak :shrug:


Even when they don't play well, Nadal and Djokovic can almost always count on the chokes of their opponents :lol:

LinkMage
11-21-2011, 10:11 PM
Nice one, Birdshit.
Gifted the TB to Djokovic by hitting like 5 easy forehands out. :stupid:

Yet another lucky win for Faker. :rolleyes:

Allegretto
11-21-2011, 10:11 PM
Epic choke from Berdshit.

shiaben
11-21-2011, 10:11 PM
Great. Now Mugray may have a chance to advance.

BIGMARAT
11-21-2011, 10:12 PM
no one choked.
Berdych was the better player in the first set.
but Novak showed himself when it matters.

Time Violation
11-21-2011, 10:12 PM
Awful start from Nole, but played much better later on. Was a bit out of gas towards the end of the third, however his serve kept him alive, who would've said so :D Tomas was atrocious in the TB, but he has only himself to blame :shrug:

henke007
11-21-2011, 10:12 PM
Tomas played the best tennis that he can produce just to choke the Tb like that hoorendous misstakes. Nole was really mental strong offcourse but damn he is not even near his form from earlier and the serve is a joke again.

MIMIC
11-21-2011, 10:12 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51B4QZB2Z0L._SL500_.jpg

Djoker :rocker2: :yeah:

madmax
11-21-2011, 10:12 PM
some strong era stuff right there:zzz:
Faker does a "Nadull" and survives yet another big hitter with his excellent counterpunching skills:bowdown: What spartan

tektonac
11-21-2011, 10:12 PM
super-rusty nole beats in form berdych. not bad at all.

SetSampras
11-21-2011, 10:12 PM
Im speechless. The fact that a PRO TENNIS PLAYER can miss that many easy put away shots. Forget you BErdych.

I use to support the mug kind of .

Hell one shot he was right at the net and blasts the ball 30 feet out

Lopez
11-21-2011, 10:13 PM
Parts of the match were great, parts were not.

Djokovic clearly out of confidence, not going for his shots at all. Berdych got tight in tough spots, what else is new like AJ would say :D.

Nice to see Djokovic fighting for the win. He really wanted it.

Despite the level, it was still the best match in the tournament thus far. Maybe Nadal Fish was better drama, but this was better quality (still not good though...)

syc23
11-21-2011, 10:13 PM
Tomas :facepalm:

JolánGagó
11-21-2011, 10:13 PM
Pathetic TB, expected choke. Djoko did nothing himself.

nole_no1
11-21-2011, 10:13 PM
HELL YES :rocker2:

Berdych played extremely well sometimes, but choked unbelievable in some other parts of the game.Nole started slowly, struggled again with the serve but he got the win and that's all that matters :yeah:
Though he must raise his game if he wants more from this tournament

NID
11-21-2011, 10:14 PM
Parts of the match were great, parts were not.

Djokovic clearly out of confidence, not going for his shots at all. Berdych got tight in tough spots, what else is new like AJ would say :D.

Nice to see Djokovic fighting for the win. He really wanted it.

Despite the level, it was still the best match in the tournament thus far. Maybe Nadal Fish was better drama, but this was better quality (still not good though...)

+1

TheBoiledEgg
11-21-2011, 10:14 PM
complete choke job Birdshit :o
Fh went to pieces at clutch times

tangerine_dream
11-21-2011, 10:14 PM
:lol: Murray is fucked.

janko05
11-21-2011, 10:14 PM
Tomas played the best tennis that he can produce just to choke the Tb like that hoorendous misstakes. Nole was really mental strong offcourse but damn he is not even near his form from earlier and the serve is a joke again.

spot on

nole_no1
11-21-2011, 10:14 PM
I see Nole winning the group here and if Berdych will continue to play like he did today and judging by Murray's shape he should also qualify

MIMIC
11-21-2011, 10:14 PM
super-rusty nole beats in form berdych. not bad at all.

That's the scary part. Novak was FAR off from his multiple slam-winning form and faced a surprisingly sharp Berdych and the match still never felt over.

Certinfy
11-21-2011, 10:14 PM
Once a choker, always a choker.

I'm surprising not that sad or angry at this loss.

Oh well.

SheepleBuster
11-21-2011, 10:14 PM
ahahahaha. Berdych played great on points that did not matter

Bilbo
11-21-2011, 10:15 PM
super-rusty nole beats in form berdych. not bad at all.

berdych only won 1 title in 2 and a half years. it's not like he's a top player. he should be satisfied playing at the WTF.

janko05
11-21-2011, 10:15 PM
Pathetic TB, expected choke. Djoko did nothing himself.

he didn't want to interfere :)

Jafooli
11-21-2011, 10:15 PM
World Choke Finals.

william_renshaw
11-21-2011, 10:15 PM
Few nicknames in tennis are more appropriate than "Birdshit" PMSL at the predictable meltdown under pressure.

Djokovic won this match because of mental superiority more than anything tactical.

Certinfy
11-21-2011, 10:17 PM
Tsonga, Fish and Berdych. 3 of the biggest chokes of the year come within 2 days. :worship:

vojomocart
11-21-2011, 10:17 PM
I feel sorry for Berdych.....
How many times he missed shots that 5 year old would make....

Time Violation
11-21-2011, 10:17 PM
Tomas played the best tennis that he can produce just to choke the Tb like that hoorendous misstakes. Nole was really mental strong offcourse but damn he is not even near his form from earlier and the serve is a joke again.

Wrong, serve was quite good actually, kept him alive repeatedly in crucial times :)

legolandbridge
11-21-2011, 10:17 PM
Tough loss for Berdych. Had Djoker on the ropes :boxing: one break up in the third only to serve up two double faults (at 4-2), then had match point rallying with Novak, and blows the tie-break with some bad forehead errors. Still he had some great patches of pounding the ball. :kiss::kiss:

Arkulari
11-21-2011, 10:17 PM
Tsonga, Fish and Berdych. 3 of the biggest chokes of the year come within 2 days. :worship:

Tsonga didn't have a match point, did he? ;)

Gotta give it to Berdych, it takes a big deal of skill to choke like that :lol:

MaxPower
11-21-2011, 10:17 PM
Berdych choked it and he knows it. Not only the MP but that awful game to in the 3rd when he was a break up. The development in the 3rd was very similar to the Fish vs Nadal match. You knew if it went to TB he would be screwed. And no surprise. It's a shame so few players have that extra clutchfactor in the 3rd set to keep ripping accurate shots but instead start to think too much and then when they finally get back to their game the timing is gone.

Berdych had the talent and the game to win but the mental factor cost him the game

nole_no1
11-21-2011, 10:18 PM
Tsonga, Fish and Berdych. 3 of the biggest chokes of the year come within 2 days. :worship:

Tsonga didn't really choke it tbh because he wasn't really in a favorable position of winning that match in any moment
Berdych and Fish both missed some great chances in the deciding set and then collapsed in the TB

Saberq
11-21-2011, 10:18 PM
Tsonga, Fish and Berdych. 3 of the biggest chokes of the year come within 2 days. :worship:

come to think of it all 3 players choked the match away .......sorry for you man but I am glad for Nole ....this is why he is the world number 1...winning when you should lose

Corey Feldman
11-21-2011, 10:18 PM
predictable old Tomas :yeah:
even in this tournament Nole and Nadal get all the gifts they need :lol:

Tsonga, Fish and Berdych. 3 of the biggest chokes of the year come within 2 days. :worship:Tsonga didnt choke v Fed at all, he was never in the lead... not even close to be compared with Fish and Berdy

Why So Serious?
11-21-2011, 10:18 PM
Berdych should've won this match, The Djoker with his tricks..

Voo de Mar
11-21-2011, 10:18 PM
Djokovic has the best ratio of m.p matches among active players who played at least 10 matches of this kind: 8-2... Berdych 5-6.

janko05
11-21-2011, 10:19 PM
Few nicknames in tennis are more appropriate than "Birdshit" PMSL at the predictable meltdown under pressure.

Djokovic won this match because of mental superiority more than anything tactical.

tactical my arse...he was just there waiting to see what happens

nsidhan
11-21-2011, 10:19 PM
Few nicknames in tennis are more appropriate than "Birdshit" PMSL at the predictable meltdown under pressure.

Djokovic won this match because of mental superiority more than anything tactical.

WORD!

Saberq
11-21-2011, 10:19 PM
Also dedicated to GSM Nadal .....Vamos

arm
11-21-2011, 10:19 PM
Wrong, serve was quite good actually, kept him alive repeatedly in crucial times :)

And screwed him over a few times too. :lol:

Lopez
11-21-2011, 10:19 PM
Dedicated to GSMNadal and other Rafatards who want Nole to lose so that Rafa wouldn't have to lose to him for the seventh time this season :D

Mountaindewslave
11-21-2011, 10:19 PM
Once a choker, always a choker.

I'm surprising not that sad or angry at this loss.

Oh well.

I am and I am shocked that you do not care at all that your favorite player lost. I am a fan of his yet nowhere near as big of one as you, and you don't feel dissapointed but I do? strange.

Tomas played a really good match besides the tie break and a few points here and there and you are totally discrediting him by not being dissapointed! He played good and he should have won this match, I'd expect some more feelings from his biggest fan.

Mountaindewslave
11-21-2011, 10:20 PM
Dedicated to GSMNadal and other Rafatards who want Nole to lose so that Rafa wouldn't have to lose to him for the seventh time this season :D

honestly if Djokovic does not approve his chances of beating Nadal are relatively low

nole_no1
11-21-2011, 10:20 PM
Djokovic won this because of his fighting spirit and because of his bigger desire of winning

Saberq
11-21-2011, 10:20 PM
predictable old Tomas :yeah:
even in this tournament Nole and Nadal get all the gifts they need :lol:

Tsonga didnt choke v Fed at all, he was never in the lead... not even close to be compared with Fish and Berdy

Tsonga missed an easy volley then a double fault in the last game ....wtf? it was also a choke to a lesser extent.....

solowyn
11-21-2011, 10:20 PM
Dedicated to GSMNadal and other Rafatards who want Nole to lose so that Rafa wouldn't have to lose to him for the seventh time this season :D
:yeah:

Mr.Michael
11-21-2011, 10:21 PM
Really bad shots from Berdych at the latter stages.

Is it just me or was there a bit of a tension during the handshake? Berdych didn't look all that pleased. Well he obviously lost, but they didn't feel that friendly anyways.

Arkulari
11-21-2011, 10:22 PM
Really bad shots from Berdych at the latter stages.

Is it just me or was there a bit of a tension during the handshake? Berdych didn't look all that pleased. Well he obviously lost, but they didn't feel that friendly anyways.

When are Berdych's handshakes not cold? :lol: win or lose he seems to have that perpetual bitch please look

tektonac
11-21-2011, 10:23 PM
predictable old Tomas :yeah:
even in this tournament Nole and Nadal get all the gifts they need :lol:

Tsonga didnt choke v Fed at all, he was never in the lead... not even close to be compared with Fish and Berdy

when you have BIG cojones people usually die to gift you.

Certinfy
11-21-2011, 10:23 PM
I am and I am shocked that you do not care at all that your favorite player lost. I am a fan of his yet nowhere near as big of one as you, and you don't feel dissapointed but I do? strange.

Tomas played a really good match besides the tie break and a few points here and there and you are totally discrediting him by not being dissapointed! He played good and he should have won this match, I'd expect some more feelings from his biggest fan.
I've gone through it too much before. I cried non stop after his AO 2009 and Toronto 2010 matches against Federer and I don't want to cry all night and be depressed all day tomorrow, I'm just used to it now. At the end of the day this is what being a Berdych fan is all about.

SetSampras
11-21-2011, 10:23 PM
Im speechless. The fact that a PRO TENNIS PLAYER can miss that many easy put away shots. Forget you BErdych.

I use to support the mug kind of .

Hell one shot he was right at the net and blasts the ball 30 feet out

!VamosRafa!
11-21-2011, 10:23 PM
Choking trash :o

Bilbo
11-21-2011, 10:24 PM
Really bad shots from Berdych at the latter stages.

Is it just me or was there a bit of a tension during the handshake? Berdych didn't look all that pleased. Well he obviously lost, but they didn't feel that friendly anyways.

berdych has never been the most friendly player

Lopez
11-21-2011, 10:25 PM
I've gone through it too much before. I cried non stop after his AO 2009 and Toronto 2010 matches against Federer and I don't want to cry all night and be depressed all day tomorrow, I'm just used to it now. At the end of the day this is what being a Berdych fan is all about.

Good for you if you don't take it so seriously any more...

Saberq
11-21-2011, 10:26 PM
Choking trash :o

he learned from Fish :wavey:

cardio
11-21-2011, 10:26 PM
Tsonga didn't have a match point, did he? ;)

Gotta give it to Berdych, it takes a big deal of skill to choke like that :lol:

Tsonga didnt have anything, no matchpoints, no break leads in 3rd, didnt have even breakpoints in 3rd. But Berdych was really close and some stupid errors ruined his chance to beat # 1 and to earn some nice points, loads of money and probable SF spot in WTF ( last one is still possible though for both Tsonga and Berdman)

janko05
11-21-2011, 10:26 PM
Djokovic has the best ratio of m.p matches among active players who played at least 10 matches of this kind: 8-2... Berdych 5-6.

thanks Voo...nice to know

Vida
11-21-2011, 10:26 PM
nole winning with his C game :zzz:

a choke-like performance from berdych.

Saberq
11-21-2011, 10:28 PM
I dont know what you guys expect ....these kind of players always choke against top players

janko05
11-21-2011, 10:28 PM
I've gone through it too much before. I cried non stop after his AO 2009 and Toronto 2010 matches against Federer and I don't want to cry all night and be depressed all day tomorrow, I'm just used to it now. At the end of the day this is what being a Berdych fan is all about.

:hug:

Corey Feldman
11-21-2011, 10:28 PM
Tsonga was 4-5 and under pressure, i have more sympathy to lose a match this way than prats like Fish and Berdy tonight who both break in the third sets then get broke back right away with awful tennis and then play pathetic tie breaks

story of their life, least Tsonga showed cojones to take Fed out many times including from 0-2 at Wimbledon

Super Djoker
11-21-2011, 10:29 PM
Sounded like a toughie but this is the creme de la creme! Still Coming out TOP DOG!

philosophicalarf
11-21-2011, 10:30 PM
no one choked.
Berdych was the better player in the first set.
but Novak showed himself when it matters.

3rd set Berdy breaks for *4-2, then throws in two doublefaults and two poor errors to give it straight back.

Matchpoint, Berdych mistimes a forehand so badly it hits the bottom of the net ..... even if it hadn't, would have been metres wide of the doubles alley.

Tiebreak, Berdych falls apart.


Yes, that's called choking.

Nole fan
11-21-2011, 10:30 PM
Tsonga was 4-5 and under pressure, i have more sympathy to lose a match this way than prats like Fish and Berdy tonight who both break in the third sets then get broke back right away with awful tennis and then play pathetic tie breaks

story of their life, least Tsonga showed cojones to take Fed out many times including from 0-2 at Wimbledon

Is that the part of the season when you start being cocky again? :lol:

Saberq
11-21-2011, 10:30 PM
Tsonga was 4-5 and under pressure, i have more sympathy to lose a match this way than prats like Fish and Berdy tonight who both break in the third sets then get broke back right away with awful tennis and then play pathetic tie breaks

story of their life, least Tsonga showed cojones to take Fed out many times including from 0-2 at Wimbledon

and Berdych beat Nole in Wimbledon 2010 what's your point....you know as well as I do that this is expected and it will happen again

doomsday
11-21-2011, 10:30 PM
I've gone through it too much before. I cried non stop after his AO 2009 and Toronto 2010 matches against Federer and I don't want to cry all night and be depressed all day tomorrow, I'm just used to it now. At the end of the day this is what being a Berdych fan is all about.

He will stop choking eventually. Be patient.

BodyServe
11-21-2011, 10:31 PM
Serving 46% 1st serve indoor when you are 1m96 is just pathetic.

Alex999
11-21-2011, 10:31 PM
Some people just don't understand. This is what separate Djokovic, Nadal and Fed from the rest of the field. They are mentally much stronger. Yes, Djokovic played too safe. Yes, Berdych got tight when it mattered. You may not like it but it is what it is. It ain't over till it's over. Someone said that Berdych had played better some points that didn't really matter and I couldn't agree more. Why do you think Djokovic is managing to win so many close matches?

Sure, I know too well how the MTF crowd will react. Berdych will be called all kinda names, choker, mental midget etc. MTF is so predictable ;). I personally think Tomas played very well but not well enough to beat Djokovic. When you are aggressive you are also prone to make more UE.

Mountaindewslave
11-21-2011, 10:31 PM
I've gone through it too much before. I cried non stop after his AO 2009 and Toronto 2010 matches against Federer and I don't want to cry all night and be depressed all day tomorrow, I'm just used to it now. At the end of the day this is what being a Berdych fan is all about.

yeah I can definitely understand not getting that upset but I personally am very dissapointed because Tomas is such a great player and cool headed person and he SO had this match.

he is in good form though, maybe he will beat Ferrer and Muray/possible replacement and make it to SF's. definitely good chance.

Clay Death
11-21-2011, 10:32 PM
berdych needed this one for his confidence.

he had it. it was right there but he couldnt close the sale.

TommyCZE
11-21-2011, 10:33 PM
Tough loss, Tomas should have won it. He choked after he got the break serving 2 doubles, he had a chance on MP, miss-timed a FH. The errors in the breaker were terrible, but its not choking, because he was always behind in the TB. He had the MP in his mind, made silly FH, but its not choking, he wasnt leading or approaching the win.:sad:

Mountaindewslave
11-21-2011, 10:33 PM
the worst part is the tennis channel commentators were horribly jinxing Tomas the whole time saying that Djokovic certainly was going to win. like come on seriously

Saberq
11-21-2011, 10:33 PM
yeah I can definitely understand not getting that upset but I personally am very dissapointed because Tomas is such a great player and cool headed person and he SO had this match.

he is in good form though, maybe he will beat Ferrer and Muray/possible replacement and make it to SF's. definitely good chance.

you cant win a close match when you are a mental midget ...ask Fish

Ben.
11-21-2011, 10:33 PM
Berdych missing too many final balls tonight. Came back to haunt him at the end, the one at 3-1 in the TB was just a disgrace. Terrible service game at 4-2, outstandingly good service game at 5-5. Both deserve a mention. Then there was that wildy miss timed shot on MP :help:

Certinfy
11-21-2011, 10:33 PM
Good for you if you don't take it so seriously any more...
Well it helps that it's in a RR format. But yeah I've pretty much accepted all of it now. I mean if you asked me this time 2 years ago if I was happy being a fan and despite him being ranked like 20 and doing nothing 'big' the whole year I would have said yes. Did I ever think he would make a GS SF and Final after 2009? Hell no! But he proved me wrong last year and gave me a few of the best sporting weeks I've ever experience of my life.

The way I look at it now is that yes my favourite player isn't a Nadal, Federer or Djokovic, and I don't expect him to win all the time, but that's what makes it more fun. Every time he gets a big win it just feels better and great. I quite enjoy going through all the emotions with him anyway, just makes it more fun than being happy all the time.

Nole fan
11-21-2011, 10:34 PM
the worst part is the tennis channel commentators were horribly jinxing Tomas the whole time saying that Djokovic certainly was going to win. like come on seriously

I'm sure that itched a hell of a lot. :lol:

arm
11-21-2011, 10:34 PM
When are Berdych's handshakes not cold? :lol: win or lose he seems to have that perpetual bitch please look

Specially now that he was the one with hotter girlfriend. :shrug:

doomsday
11-21-2011, 10:36 PM
Tough loss, Tomas should have won it. He choked after he got the break serving 2 doubles, he had a chance on MP, miss-timed a FH. The errors in the breaker were terrible, but its not choking, because he was always behind in the TB. He had the MP in his mind, made silly FH, but its not choking, he wasnt leading or approaching the win.:sad:

When you have mpoint that means that you're approaching the win. Berdych choked and Novak knows it.

Voo de Mar
11-21-2011, 10:37 PM
thanks Voo...nice to know

Troicki - on the other Serbian side - is the worst with 1-9 :wavey:

Saberq
11-21-2011, 10:39 PM
When you have mpoint that means that you're approaching the win. Berdych choked and Novak knows it.

that's why Novak didnt celebrate at all ...he knew he got away with one

Riosreigned
11-21-2011, 10:40 PM
Djokovic showing unbeatable qualities again. He subliminally strangled Berd at the end with them.

Saberq
11-21-2011, 10:40 PM
Djokovic has the best ratio of m.p matches among active players who played at least 10 matches of this kind: 8-2... Berdych 5-6.

what is this stat about?

Voo de Mar
11-21-2011, 10:41 PM
what is this stat about?

About matches won/loss after saving/wasting a match point.

NID
11-21-2011, 10:42 PM
This was an escape act.

Steelq
11-21-2011, 10:42 PM
I've gone through it too much before. I cried non stop after his AO 2009 and Toronto 2010 matches against Federer and I don't want to cry all night and be depressed all day tomorrow, I'm just used to it now. At the end of the day this is what being a Berdych fan is all about.

Crying over a tennis match,are you serious?Don't think even his mother or girlfriend are doing that.

Djokovic out of form,but so is everybody else in this tournament,no idea who's going to win it now.

paseo
11-21-2011, 10:42 PM
honestly if Djokovic does not approve his chances of beating Nadal are relatively low

I'm sorry man, Djokovic was not good today, but Nadal was utter crap yesterday. If Nadal played like that even against this Djokovic, there would be bagels.

On Topic :
I don't really like Berdych, but I feel kind of sad for him. He was so eager to blast a FH on that match point, that he did it even when the shot's not on. It was too low. He should've waited for a better chance. He wasn't under pressure at all, cause Djokovic was just putting the ball back and waiting for an error. Too bad. Oh well..:D

Bring on the next match!

Certinfy
11-21-2011, 10:43 PM
Crying over a tennis match,are you serious?Don't think even his mother or girlfriend are doing that.

Djokovic out of form,but so is everybody else in this tournament,no idea who's going to win it now.
When it's Tomas choking to Roger big time I go through every emotion possible!

janko05
11-21-2011, 10:43 PM
Troicki - on the other Serbian side - is the worst with 1-9 :wavey:

no need to remind me about that:sadface:

Saberq
11-21-2011, 10:45 PM
Nole you legend ...nice ...now time for Tom Brady to make me happy

Saberq
11-21-2011, 10:50 PM
About matches won/loss after saving/wasting a match point.

how can it be a same stat for wasting and saving a match point

timafi
11-21-2011, 10:52 PM
Berdych you choking sob

Voo de Mar
11-21-2011, 10:53 PM
how can it be a same stat for wasting and saving a match point

It's simple, when I say 8-2 it means he won 8 matches saving MP and lost 2 wasting MP.

sicko
11-21-2011, 10:55 PM
how can it be a same stat for wasting and saving a match point

because that's just how you define it.

so where do Nadal and Fed rank? and what's the all-time record?

Saberq
11-21-2011, 10:58 PM
It's simple, when I say 8-2 it means he won 8 matches saving MP and lost 2 wasting MP.

o thanks....he won 8 after saving ? WOW

Voo de Mar
11-21-2011, 10:58 PM
because that's just how you define it.

so where do Nadal and Fed rank?

(.642) 9-5 Rafael Nadal
(.478) 11-12 Roger Federer


and what's the all-time record?

I'd love to know but don't have a database good enough to say it, very likely Nicolas Lapentti with amazing 16-2 (.888).

Moose Limb
11-21-2011, 10:59 PM
A very nice, fun, and competitive match by both Novak and Tomas. I felt for Tomas after the loss. Novak gutted this one out, doubtless. Tomas just lost his focus. Ah well.

Voo de Mar
11-21-2011, 11:01 PM
o thanks....he won 8 after saving ? WOW

yes, check it out


Garcia-Lopez 3-6 3-6 7-6(5) 7-6(3) 6-4 - 3 mp
Chela 6-3 5-7 7-6(2) - 2 mp
Serra 5-7 7-5 6-1 - 5 mp
Stepanek 6-7(4) 7-5 6-2 - 3 mp
Kohlschreiber 6-3 2-6 7-6(3) - 3 mp
Federer 5-7 6-1 5-7 6-2 7-5 - 2 mp
Federer 6-7(7) 4-6 6-3 6-2 7-5 - 2 mp
Berdych 3-6 6-3 7-6(3) - 1 mp

Nole fan
11-21-2011, 11:01 PM
When it's Tomas choking to Roger big time I go through every emotion possible!

Beedych still has chances to make it through. Murray is a goner, he may not be playing at all, and Berdych can hit through Ferrer. :shrug:

Saberq
11-21-2011, 11:03 PM
Niceee ....part about Fed is the best LOL

sicko
11-21-2011, 11:06 PM
I'd love to know but don't have a database good enough to say it, very likely Nicolas Lapentti with amazing 16-2 (.888).

thx. 16-2 is indeed amazing.

stewietennis
11-21-2011, 11:06 PM
The first three letters of this thread is appropriate

Voo de Mar
11-21-2011, 11:07 PM
Here you can check the m.p. record of the best active players (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=11234829&postcount=183)

sicko
11-21-2011, 11:08 PM
Niceee ....part about Fed is the best LOL

yeah, and also if you know where 2 of his 12 losses came from. :lol:

janko05
11-21-2011, 11:08 PM
yes, check it out


Garcia-Lopez 3-6 3-6 7-6(5) 7-6(3) 6-4 - 3 mp
Chela 6-3 5-7 7-6(2) - 2 mp
Serra 5-7 7-5 6-1 - 5 mp
Stepanek 6-7(4) 7-5 6-2 - 3 mp
Kohlschreiber 6-3 2-6 7-6(3) - 3 mp
Federer 5-7 6-1 5-7 6-2 7-5 - 2 mp
Federer 6-7(7) 4-6 6-3 6-2 7-5 - 2 mp
Berdych 3-6 6-3 7-6(3) - 1 mp


that match with Stepanek in Basel was two years ago,right...cause I'm sure he saved some MP's vs Wawrinka later on?

Voo de Mar
11-21-2011, 11:11 PM
that match with Stepanek in Basel was two years ago,right...cause I'm sure he saved some MP's vs Wawrinka later on?

No, against Wawrinka was two points away in the 2nd set tie-break.

AlterBridge
11-21-2011, 11:12 PM
Top 4 defeating everyone else with ease - people whining "weak era", now we got 3 super close matches and 1 upset and it's even more weak era?!...

Talking about the match - lots of ue's but still best quality so far. One thing that made me happy - Nole showing desire to win again. Didn't see him showing any signs of it since Wimbeldon. And when Djokovic really wants to win he is fun to watch. Pretty sure he will play with more authority against Ferrer. He usually likes to push against agressive players and vice versa against pushers. And about Berdych, well he played very well most of the match. If murray out for good Berdych should go to semis, and there he would be huge threat, not that much for Federer, but for Nadal...

Saberq
11-21-2011, 11:13 PM
yeah, and also if you know where 2 of his 12 losses came from. :lol:

shame 10 was a nice round number for Fed...oh well :cool:

janko05
11-21-2011, 11:14 PM
No, against Wawrinka was two points away in the 2nd set tie-break.

it was close or similar to that as I can recall

MIMIC
11-21-2011, 11:14 PM
I've gone through it too much before. I cried non stop after his AO 2009 and Toronto 2010 matches against Federer and I don't want to cry all night and be depressed all day tomorrow, I'm just used to it now. At the end of the day this is what being a Berdych fan is all about.

:sad:

Well he DID beat both Fed and Novak at Wimbledon :yeah: So he isn't completely useless :)

hiperborejac
11-21-2011, 11:17 PM
Best match so far, great intensity first 2 sets. Novak entered badly losing 4:0 with many UEs, then playing great till end of 2nd set. Then lost his 1st serve % in 2nd part of 3rd set and sharpness in shots, Berdich really should close it out but choked. Novak should have less problems against Ferrer and if Thomas keep playing like this he'll destroy Murray especially if he's having leg injury.

Mountaindewslave
11-21-2011, 11:20 PM
I'm sorry man, Djokovic was not good today, but Nadal was utter crap yesterday. If Nadal played like that even against this Djokovic, there would be bagels.

On Topic :
I don't really like Berdych, but I feel kind of sad for him. He was so eager to blast a FH on that match point, that he did it even when the shot's not on. It was too low. He should've waited for a better chance. He wasn't under pressure at all, cause Djokovic was just putting the ball back and waiting for an error. Too bad. Oh well..:D

Bring on the next match!

they both are playing pretty badly, but NO WAY would Djokovic be able to blow Nadal out currently. it's sad for sure for Berdych :sad: but what doesn't kill you make's you stronger.

if Novak and Nadal meet in the SF's I have a good feeling for Rafael

Saberq
11-21-2011, 11:21 PM
Top 4 defeating everyone else with ease - people whining "weak era", now we got 3 super close matches and 1 upset and it's even more weak era?!...

Talking about the match - lots of ue's but still best quality so far. One thing that made me happy - Nole showing desire to win again. Didn't see him showing any signs of it since Wimbeldon. And when Djokovic really wants to win he is fun to watch. Pretty sure he will play with more authority against Ferrer. He usually likes to push against agressive players and vice versa against pushers. And about Berdych, well he played very well most of the match. If murray out for good Berdych should go to semis, and there he would be huge threat, not that much for Federer, but for Nadal...


not even when he won the US Open????

Saberq
11-21-2011, 11:22 PM
they both are playing pretty badly, but NO WAY would Djokovic be able to blow Nadal out currently. it's sad for sure for Berdych :sad: but what doesn't kill you make's you stronger.

if Novak and Nadal meet in the SF's I have a good feeling for Rafael

dont worry Novak will play better ;)

janko05
11-21-2011, 11:26 PM
[QUOTE=if Novak and Nadal meet in the SF's I have a good feeling for Rafael[/QUOTE]

then again, you've always had those kind of feelings :)

hosay
11-21-2011, 11:31 PM
Berdych is just a ball basher who can't hit consistently. It happened in Wimbledon 2010 and will happen forever. Ball bashers usually come with errors, players like tsonga berdych soderling and del potro. The elite(Federer, Nadal & Djokovic) know they don't need to do so much and wait for their errors.

freeandlonely
11-21-2011, 11:32 PM
http://youtu.be/IvTT29cavKo

MuzzahLovah
11-21-2011, 11:32 PM
:facepalm: Berdych :sad:
I had to leave before the match finished, but Berdych had just broken and held convincingly and I really thought he'd pull it out. But seeing how Murray has the the hip thing, Berdy will probably still qualify.

tennizen
11-21-2011, 11:46 PM
Top 4 defeating everyone else with ease - people whining "weak era", now we got 3 super close matches and 1 upset and it's even more weak era?!...

Talking about the match - lots of ue's but still best quality so far. One thing that made me happy - Nole showing desire to win again. Didn't see him showing any signs of it since Wimbeldon. And when Djokovic really wants to win he is fun to watch. Pretty sure he will play with more authority against Ferrer. He usually likes to push against agressive players and vice versa against pushers. And about Berdych, well he played very well most of the match. If murray out for good Berdych should go to semis, and there he would be huge threat, not that much for Federer, but for Nadal...

Quality post but fear not. We will corrupt you soon enough.

MuzzahLovah
11-21-2011, 11:48 PM
the worst part is the tennis channel commentators were horribly jinxing Tomas the whole time saying that Djokovic certainly was going to win. like come on seriously

I usually have to mute the commentators when the match is close. They are horrible jinxes yet they don't seem any better at making predictions than your average MTF member.

cocrcici
11-21-2011, 11:49 PM
http://i.imgur.com/ega5j.gif

Fujee
11-21-2011, 11:50 PM
Hilarious Berdie brainfart

v-money
11-21-2011, 11:57 PM
The third set was really good tennis. Berdych hit some amazing forehands to go up a break but then had one of his worst service games with 2 df's and got broken right back. I thought he would choke at this point but he held pretty comfortably until the tiebreak.

Obviously he had a chance being up a break and he did have a match point, but I thought Djokovic played pretty good defense on that MP, even though the point ended with a Berdych error. In the tiebreak Berdych was really bad and missed a couple sitters (also missed a few before the tiebreak). He has to be better at closing a point from a winning position, and maybe come to net more. I'm not sure if he choked, but he could have done better on those critical points.

Djokovic seemed healthy but rusty. He was pretty defensive, but it worked out for him, as Berdych really shot himself in the foot with all those wild errors.

MuzzahLovah
11-21-2011, 11:59 PM
Well it helps that it's in a RR format. But yeah I've pretty much accepted all of it now. I mean if you asked me this time 2 years ago if I was happy being a fan and despite him being ranked like 20 and doing nothing 'big' the whole year I would have said yes. Did I ever think he would make a GS SF and Final after 2009? Hell no! But he proved me wrong last year and gave me a few of the best sporting weeks I've ever experience of my life.

The way I look at it now is that yes my favourite player isn't a Nadal, Federer or Djokovic, and I don't expect him to win all the time, but that's what makes it more fun. Every time he gets a big win it just feels better and great. I quite enjoy going through all the emotions with him anyway, just makes it more fun than being happy all the time.

Yeah, I get that. At least Berdych doesn't get Murray level hate, so all you see are birdshit here and there. Everytime Murray wins or loses I see walls of comments talking about slams or Federer or Nadal and generally irrelevant hate. Berdy likable enough and nice to watch when he's on, I don't think I can handle being a full time fan of another mentally iffy player.

Orka_n
11-22-2011, 12:21 AM
Another choke. :facepalm: Tennis is in a terrible state right now.

Kat_YYZ
11-22-2011, 12:21 AM
they both are playing pretty badly, but NO WAY would Djokovic be able to blow Nadal out currently. it's sad for sure for Berdych :sad: but what doesn't kill you make's you stronger.

if Novak and Nadal meet in the SF's I have a good feeling for Rafael

Current Nadal barely scraped past Fish. What is so impressive about Nadal, such as he is at this moment? (Don't say "he's a champion; he'll raise his game, bla bla... all that is now true of Djokovic as well.)

rafa_maniac
11-22-2011, 12:27 AM
I'm surprised Nadal's MP saving-losing record isn't better. Who are the five losses to? Davydenko at Doha last year, I think there was one against Lopez back in 03 or something. Um... ? With the saving I can recall:

vs Federer in Rome 06
vs Almagro in Paris 09
vs Moya in Chennai 08
vs Nalbandian in IW 09
vs Benneteu in Cinci 10
vs Djokovic in Madrid 09
vs Youzhny in Aus Open 05
vs Troicki in Tokyo 10

Capuccino
11-22-2011, 12:37 AM
Nole played really bad today. Seems like he's out of confidence.:sadface:

Voo de Mar
11-22-2011, 12:48 AM
I'm surprised Nadal's MP saving-losing record isn't better. Who are the five losses to?

Lapentti, Calleri, Ferrer and Berdych (first three seasons)... Davydenko (another six seasons).

moon language
11-22-2011, 12:53 AM
I feel bad for Berdych. That simple forehand into the wide open court that he missed long in the tiebreak was embarrassing.

emotion
11-22-2011, 12:56 AM
In addition to that one, there was the one where he took his eye off the ball when he heard something- Djokovic falling, thus opening any shot- and missing

nsidhan
11-22-2011, 01:18 AM
Birdman actually played some stellar tennis to get to match point. Showed that hard flat hitting is the way to go to beating Djokovic. But played with his bird brain when he had MP and in the tie-breaker.

Corey Feldman
11-22-2011, 01:33 AM
and Berdych beat Nole in Wimbledon 2010 what's your point....you know as well as I do that this is expected and it will happen againno one ever chokes against Fed, its Fed who does the choking lol

Florida
11-22-2011, 01:43 AM
Birdshit really played shity when it mattered. Good luck birdshit in the future matches. Nole just proved he can win when he plays badl. Ugly win, but that is what champions do, they refuse to loose.

Saberq
11-22-2011, 01:45 AM
no one ever chokes against Fed, its Fed who does the choking lol

Djokovic 2007 US Open final ...5-4 40-0 his serve

habibko
11-22-2011, 01:48 AM
http://i39.tinypic.com/15wxpok.png

KoOlMaNsEaN
11-22-2011, 02:01 AM
It's amazing that after more than 2 hours of play, it all came down to Tomas' lack of a forehand. :timebomb:

Kat_YYZ
11-22-2011, 02:53 AM
Djokovic 2007 US Open final ...5-4 40-0 his serve

oh come on, Novak lost in straight sets there.

Better examples of people "choking" against Fed are Berdych being up two sets in AO 2009, Haas at the French Open 2009, and Falla in Wimbledon 2010. :cool:

Yolita
11-22-2011, 02:58 AM
It's curious that there is a thread about Roger beating Tsonga and one about Rafa beating Fish, but this is the only one with the words 'beats' in quotation marks. Tsonga and Fish both choked against Roger and Rafa. So what's new? There are Top 10 players and Top 5 players. Tsonga, Fish and Berdych are Top 10, not Top 5. There's a reason for that. :)

And the #1 players save MPs, like Djokovic and the Bryan brothers did today. They're #1, there's a reason for that. :devil:

v-money
11-22-2011, 03:01 AM
http://i39.tinypic.com/15wxpok.png

:sadface:

Mountaindewslave
11-22-2011, 03:26 AM
I usually have to mute the commentators when the match is close. They are horrible jinxes yet they don't seem any better at making predictions than your average MTF member.

honestly i totally agree, they seem about equally as informed as random people who post on here, at least the commentators on TENNIS CHANNEL in USA. i might have to try turning down the volume but i really do like to hear the ballstriking. they should add an option so that I can turn off their frustrating voices, esspecially when they are saying repeatedly "I have a feeling Tomas can't win this match", we get it after the first 20 times you said that, despite the match being VERY close. :o

Mountaindewslave
11-22-2011, 03:28 AM
http://i39.tinypic.com/15wxpok.png

he was upset about the match result and I can't blame him, that face seems totally appropriate given the fact that he had the whole thing in his hands and practically gave it away for free

Mountaindewslave
11-22-2011, 03:30 AM
Current Nadal barely scraped past Fish. What is so impressive about Nadal, such as he is at this moment? (Don't say "he's a champion; he'll raise his game, bla bla... all that is now true of Djokovic as well.)

Djokovic's performance was no more impressive than Nadal's, what I'm saying is that if both stay at current poor forms then Nadal has a great chance to beat him. preferably they both improve drastically though.

Mountaindewslave
11-22-2011, 03:33 AM
It's amazing that after more than 2 hours of play, it all came down to Tomas' lack of a forehand. :timebomb:

are you being sarcastic or am I just confused? Tomas's forehand was amazing in the match and is the reason he had chances to win the whole thing. he did screw up some forehands toward the end of the match, but I think the problem was more in his head than his forehand. obviously :rolleyes: i think you must have been joking

betowiec
11-22-2011, 03:42 AM
never in doubt NOLE

Kat_YYZ
11-22-2011, 03:43 AM
he was upset about the match result and I can't blame him, that face seems totally appropriate given the fact that he had the whole thing in his hands and practically gave it away for free

yeah, he has all night and all day tomorrow to make that face; he doesn't have to do it to the opponent for the 3 seconds of the handshake. :p

dabeast
11-22-2011, 04:56 AM
http://i54.tinypic.com/303jl3k.jpg

come on man you got the best gifs :haha:

Birdy :wavey:

Björki
11-22-2011, 05:06 AM
Nole :yeah:

TBkeeper
11-22-2011, 05:27 AM
no one ever chokes against Fed, its Fed who does the choking lol

No...Davydenko chokes against Federer ! if you don't agree it then see it yourself it is truly that way !

Topspindoctor
11-22-2011, 06:16 AM
This Berdshit is an utter mug. I guess in Czech republic it's the females who have the mental strength and fortitude :haha:

Shinoj
11-22-2011, 06:24 AM
Berdych is just there for the ATP goodlife, nothing else. Its clear.

DrJules
11-22-2011, 06:50 AM
This extract from a match commentary thread captures why Berdych does not achieve what he should when serving at 4-2 after breaking:

"A double fault to open Berdych's service game, followed by a tight backhand and it's 0-30. Djokovic shanks a forehand wide, though it was difficult. Another double fault and it's two break back points! An unforced error into the net and that's why Berdych doesn't win tournaments."

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/tennis/livematch/492904.html

The game in the mind is often ignored and certainly was decisive in this match.

abraxas21
11-22-2011, 06:52 AM
berdy is the ultimate mug

should retire

vojomocart
11-22-2011, 07:04 AM
I am sure that the song Czech players "performed" after win in qualies vs Montenegro, should be played for Berdych.
So Radek Drulak (Tomas Berdych ) nema curaka........ :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfX-ygxA5Xg

v-money
11-22-2011, 07:15 AM
I am sure that the song Czech players "performed" after win in qualies vs Montenegro, should be played for Berdych.
So Radek Drulak (Tomas Berdych ) nema curaka........ :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfX-ygxA5Xg

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused:

I used the maximum number of confused faces this site will allow. Hope that explains what I think after reading that post and watching that video.

Jaz
11-22-2011, 07:19 AM
strong era

Synesthetic
11-22-2011, 08:00 AM
Berdych in the TB:

1. FH into the net
2. inside-out FH wide
3. inside-in FH long
4. hits FH sitter right up at the net long
5. crosscourt FH wide

Maybe he was trying to make a forehand error in every possible way?

vojomocart
11-22-2011, 08:37 AM
:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused:

I used the maximum number of confused faces this site will allow. Hope that explains what I think after reading that post and watching that video.

:)

It wasn't meant to mean anything against Berdych, little bit of joke.
But I don't really understand what the hell football players needed to "perform" such a horrible thing.
I think all of them will be fined for their misconduct 100.000 $.:

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/czech-fa-fines-players-1m-for-wild-euro-celebration/103327/

zeleni
11-22-2011, 09:04 AM
What a champ Nole is...

Nole fan
11-22-2011, 09:08 AM
It's curious that there is a thread about Roger beating Tsonga and one about Rafa beating Fish, but this is the only one with the words 'beats' in quotation marks. Tsonga and Fish both choked against Roger and Rafa. So what's new? There are Top 10 players and Top 5 players. Tsonga, Fish and Berdych are Top 10, not Top 5. There's a reason for that. :)

And the #1 players save MPs, like Djokovic and the Bryan brothers did today. They're #1, there's a reason for that. :devil:

No surprise here. The OP is one of the biggest Fedtards and Nole haters here. :rolleyes:

bad gambler
11-22-2011, 09:26 AM
This Djokovic is good

MariaV
11-22-2011, 09:47 AM
they both are playing pretty badly, but NO WAY would Djokovic be able to blow Nadal out currently. it's sad for sure for Berdych :sad: but what doesn't kill you make's you stronger.

if Novak and Nadal meet in the SF's I have a good feeling for Rafael

Naah, Rafael will find the way to get blown off the court and make it 0-7. :D :D

he was upset about the match result and I can't blame him, that face seems totally appropriate given the fact that he had the whole thing in his hands and practically gave it away for free

Yep that face was quite appropriate.

FlameOn
11-22-2011, 09:53 AM
Tomas :facepalm:. Good thing it's round robin and a chance to redeem himself. Nice to see Nole winning again though :).

Gagsquet
11-22-2011, 10:02 AM
Berdych cried in the locker room. Never in doubt.

leng jai
11-22-2011, 10:13 AM
No surprise here. The OP is one of the biggest Fedtards and Nole haters here. :rolleyes:

Not everything has to do with tardism here. There are tons of match threads with similar titles after a clear choke and this instance is pretty valid.

Sham Kay
11-22-2011, 11:18 AM
I liked the match point. You could almost feel Big Berds pain as he laid that humongous egg while aiming nowhere near the court.

Art(e)mio
11-22-2011, 11:32 AM
Tomas, WTF???
4-2 lead in the final set + MP :tape:
The UEs in TB by Tom's side were way too ridiculous.
I hate when Joker escape from matches like this, without doing anything special.

Rafa#Uno:-)
11-22-2011, 12:12 PM
3rd set Berdy breaks for *4-2, then throws in two doublefaults and two poor errors to give it straight back.

Matchpoint, Berdych mistimes a forehand so badly it hits the bottom of the net ..... even if it hadn't, would have been metres wide of the doubles alley.

Tiebreak, Berdych falls apart.


Yes, that's called choking.

yes his forehand is great when it works....but his margin is so
small.....and he knows that.....he should learn a more safe forehand too to rely on...and mix it up with that killer forehand...
he just get nervous and shaky.....its a mental emotional thing :wavey:

the worst was the easy ball at the net....at 1 3.....that one can everybody not miss....its just nerves,cramps and shaky.....

this is :bolt: what he wanted to do....

Shirogane
11-22-2011, 02:53 PM
I hope Berdych forgets that match very quickly. :o

GSMnadal
11-22-2011, 06:12 PM
Fell asleep watching this last night... shame Berdych chocked, but have to say, was surprised when I saw he came so close. He was going nowhere at the end of the third set (when I dozed off)

Oh well, he should still make the semi's

Vida
11-22-2011, 06:49 PM
indeed, berdych had no reason to choke this one, it was up for grabs. its almost as if he decided he's better off tanking the damn thing.

DrJules
11-22-2011, 06:59 PM
Overall hard to avoid the comment:

http://www.nrainsights.org/images/BirdBrain.jpg

william_renshaw
11-09-2012, 03:07 PM
Overall hard to avoid the comment:

http://www.nrainsights.org/images/BirdBrain.jpg

LOL