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WWW London RR: Federer against Nadal

Poetik
11-20-2011, 10:29 PM
Match without clear favourite, possible three sets for Rafael:confused:

Pirata.
11-20-2011, 10:30 PM
Roger in three if he doesn't choke and takes advantage of Rafa's lack of play.

nole_no1
11-20-2011, 10:30 PM
Federer should kick his ass in 2 if Nadal will play as he did today

_Chaz
11-20-2011, 10:30 PM
If Federer doesn't beat this Nadal, then yes, he should retire.

abraxas21
11-20-2011, 10:30 PM
turkey time

Johnny Groove
11-20-2011, 10:31 PM
Roger should slap himself if he loses against this Nadal.

henke007
11-20-2011, 10:31 PM
Roger in str8s

castle007
11-20-2011, 10:31 PM
Federer has never lost to Nadal at this tournament. He should be the favorite based on their recent forms and matches. But you never know!

Ben.
11-20-2011, 10:32 PM
Federer will avoid turkeydom comfortably. Rafa has no game right now.

rubbERR
11-20-2011, 10:32 PM
Nadal should not lose to Federer, he takes it two easy sets.

viruzzz
11-20-2011, 10:33 PM
Even playing like today, Roger will win.

Jaz
11-20-2011, 10:33 PM
Rafa in 3, surface is slow and bouncy.

shiaben
11-20-2011, 10:33 PM
Rafa, moonball him to death in two sets, I want to see the laws of tennis, defied! (Realistically it should be Federer 6-4 6-4 or at least 6-4, 6-7, 6-2).

LinkMage
11-20-2011, 10:33 PM
Fed to bend over again against Nadull when he should destroy the moonballer in straights. :o

abraxas21
11-20-2011, 10:33 PM
Roger should slap himself if he loses against this Nadal.

nadal sucked tonight but then again federer also sucked v. tsonga. i watched both matches.

given the match-up and level of play of both players, i'm sure pocahontas will routine olderer.

Alley-oop
11-20-2011, 10:34 PM
Rafa in 2

Rogieva
11-20-2011, 10:34 PM
From what ive seen today, Roger in 2

MuzzahLovah
11-20-2011, 10:34 PM
Fish appeared to me in much better form than Tsonga, so I guess this is good news for Rafa against Fed?

Mechlan
11-20-2011, 10:35 PM
Expecting Federer to come through, Nadal didn't look great out there. That said, they play the game on the day, and Nadal will undoubtedly play better and of course the match up brings out the worst in Federer.

DrJules
11-20-2011, 10:35 PM
The match up issue.

Have feeling that Nadal might win.

SheepleBuster
11-20-2011, 10:35 PM
Fed to bend over again against Nadull when he should destroy the moonballer in straights. :o

Amen. This match up has never been about who's the more talented or better player. It's about man who is mentally so weak against this other dude. Federer might win in 3 but I have Rafa in 2. I don't give a fuck. I want Rafa to get double bageled by Novak in the semis.

Filo V.
11-20-2011, 10:39 PM
These courts are slow, which helps Nadal in this match-up. However, the bounce is low and that helps Federer tremendously. Rafa does not have the confidence of 2010, and he looked out of shape, sluggish, slow and without spark tonight.

Without serious improvement from Nadal, Federer wins.

romismak
11-20-2011, 10:42 PM
Roger should serve good and play agressive and can´t loose this. Nadal on return again nothing, far behind baseline, in rallies passive, waiting for erorrs like Wozniacki. From BH moonballing all the time, can´t hit one good BH- i mean blast from BH, Roger should play to his BH and go to net pretty often and will beat him.

abraxas21
11-20-2011, 10:43 PM
bendoverer should be a nickname

Borntofight
11-20-2011, 10:46 PM
Nadull won't stand a chance even if Fedclown shows up.

Il Primo Uomo
11-20-2011, 10:46 PM
Rafa's tiny ass peen's gona slide so good in Rogie's downlow booty. Some lube may come in handy.

Rafa in 3 (Homeboy is rusty)

GSMnadal
11-20-2011, 10:47 PM
Today:

http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/007/cache/wild-turkey_765_600x450.jpg

After this match:

http://www.enterprisemobilitymatters.com/.a/6a00e008d27b938834012875e0aaae970c-800wi

DO it in 2 please Rafael!

Certinfy
11-20-2011, 10:47 PM
Afternoon or evening?

Some tickets left and I can get a ticket if it's for the evening even though I don't like either, haha!

alter ego
11-20-2011, 10:49 PM
Today:

http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/007/cache/wild-turkey_765_600x450.jpg

After this match:

http://www.enterprisemobilitymatters.com/.a/6a00e008d27b938834012875e0aaae970c-800wi

DO it in 2 please Rafael!

Are you sure you want to post this pictures? really really sure?

!VamosRafa!
11-20-2011, 10:50 PM
Federer 6-3 6-4.

Slice Winner
11-20-2011, 10:50 PM
Match without clear favourite, possible three sets for Rafael:confused:

After today's debacle against Fish, are you kidding?
Roger didn't play well, but Nadal was bad beyond belief. :o

GSMnadal
11-20-2011, 10:51 PM
Are you sure you want to post this pictures? really really sure?

Rafa isn't losing to his pidgeon.

viruzzz
11-20-2011, 10:51 PM
Today:

After this match:


DO it in 2 please Rafael!



Look! A MTF Troll!
I thought they were all hiding in their asses after the Nole-Season.

Orka_n
11-20-2011, 10:52 PM
I think Federer in 2, actually.

alter ego
11-20-2011, 10:53 PM
Rafa isn't losing to his pidgeon.

:rolleyes:
You know I'm going to bump this thread 2 days from now and make fun of you, right?

SetSampras
11-20-2011, 10:54 PM
Watching this surface and the moonball madness today , can't bet against Nadal. Fed goes down in 3. His backhand is going to be exploited big time here

GSMnadal
11-20-2011, 10:54 PM
:rolleyes:
You know I'm going to bump this thread 2 days from now and make fun of you, right?

Go right ahead, I'll make the same deal with you. I think I can handle it if it would happen.

alter ego
11-20-2011, 10:55 PM
Go right ahead, I'll make the same deal with you. I think I can handle it if it would happen.

Deal :devil:

Sunset of Age
11-20-2011, 10:56 PM
Judging on what I witnessed today, this will be a massive, ugly errorfest from both sides, and considering the obvious 'I-shit-in-my-pants-whenever-I-see-Thee-across-the-net'-factor from Federer's side, I'd say Nadal in three. :)

Unless either of the two manages to cut out the sloppiness, which I'm unfortunately not counting on.

StG-Toss coin-dependent, this one. ;)

arm
11-20-2011, 10:58 PM
This:

Never underestimate Fed's ability to lose to Nadal.

(From the WTF groups thread)

:lol: :shrug:

NID
11-20-2011, 11:09 PM
Stefan Humblerer in two.

Naudio Spanlatine
11-20-2011, 11:23 PM
to make matters worst he'll definitely lose to fed the way he played today:facepalm: :facepalm: :sobbing: :sobbing: :sobbing:

Arakasi
11-20-2011, 11:23 PM
I'm going to be there :D Hopefully it's a good match and Federer comes out on top.

Naudio Spanlatine
11-20-2011, 11:27 PM
a fedal match wont be a good match its gonna be blow out city and yall know it, the rafa fans and haters know, everyone else knows it:sad:

Certinfy
11-20-2011, 11:30 PM
Just got a ticket :woohoo:

I hate Federer vs Nadal matches, but whatever.

Arakasi
11-20-2011, 11:36 PM
Just got a ticket :woohoo:

I hate Federer vs Nadal matches, but whatever.

I checked the evening session before the schedule was released and there were plenty of seats available. Just checked again 5 minutes later after they announced it was going to be Federer-Nadal and they're all gone :lol:

I'm glad I bought mine in advance. Good job getting one in time!

Certinfy
11-20-2011, 11:37 PM
I checked the evening session before the schedule was released and there were plenty of seats available. Just checked again 5 minutes later after they announced it was going to be Federer-Nadal and they're all gone :lol:

I'm glad I bought mine in advance. Good job getting one in time!
Haha! :lol: I had to try like 20 times just to get a ticket, thank God I finally did though. :)

:yeah: Good thing you did. Problem is the lottery of what match you're going to get though, I mean if you got Tsonga vs Fish... :unsure:

Naudio Spanlatine
11-20-2011, 11:37 PM
yall waste the money, it wont be a good match trust me, its not the fedal that we saw last year ppl

Arakasi
11-20-2011, 11:42 PM
Haha! :lol: I had to try like 20 times just to get a ticket, thank God I finally did though. :)

:yeah: Good thing you did. Problem is the lottery of what match you're going to get though, I mean if you got Tsonga vs Fish... :unsure:

I know! :o

I was counting on them leaving the big boys for the evening session but even so I've been refreshing the schedule page like mad for the last hour just to make sure ;)

If I hear anyone shout "mugs" in the crowd I'll know assume it's you :p

Certinfy
11-20-2011, 11:46 PM
I know! :o

I was counting on them leaving the big boys for the evening session but even so I've been refreshing the schedule page like mad for the last hour just to make sure ;)

If I hear anyone shout "mugs" in the crowd I'll know assume it's you :p
Can't blame you. :lol: But from previous history who knows what they would do. I mean last year they had Murray vs Federer during the day, but thankfully I had a ticket for that in advance anyway while the night crowd got Soderling vs Ferrer. :o

:lol: Will definitely be me. Got tickets to Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday evenings now though, I'm going to be absolutely dead in Uni the next days :help: :tape:

Sham Kay
11-20-2011, 11:49 PM
Fed will have to wait for the orange season for his turkey.. Fed, 4 and 4 and outta there.

Arakasi
11-20-2011, 11:50 PM
Got tickets to Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday evenings now though, I'm going to be absolutely dead in Uni the next days :help: :tape:

Ditto to both parts. I have 9am lectures on Wednesday and Thursday to make it worse. The things I do for tennis :rolls:

Knowing my luck Nadal is going to come out and moonball Federer to death in a shankfest.

Certinfy
11-20-2011, 11:55 PM
Ditto to both parts. I have 9am lectures on Wednesday and Thursday to make it worse. The things I do for tennis :rolls:

Knowing my luck Nadal is going to come out and moonball Federer to death in a shankfest.
Same here :hug: We're crazy. :o

If I hear anyone crying in the crowd during the match I know it's you then :p

Mae
11-20-2011, 11:56 PM
Ditto to both parts. I have 9am lectures on Wednesday and Thursday to make it worse. The things I do for tennis :rolls:

Knowing my luck Nadal is going to come out and moonball Federer to death in a shankfest.

No way. Rafa is ill and just barely defeated Mardy Fish.

Arakasi
11-20-2011, 11:59 PM
No way. Rafa is ill and just barely defeated Mardy Fish.

Then Federer's one hander will prove to be just the right tonic.

In all seriousness, Federer should win after the way they both played today but the quote below cannot be stressed enough.

Never underestimate Fed's ability to lose to Nadal.

AlterBridge
11-21-2011, 12:02 AM
Pretty sure Nadal in 2.

zlaja777
11-21-2011, 12:08 AM
Fed has to win this one for many reasons. 2 sets.

Saberq
11-21-2011, 12:30 AM
how is Rafa ill?

Naudio Spanlatine
11-21-2011, 12:32 AM
he had to go to the restroom because his stomach was sick, so be thankful that your nole is at least doing fine at the moment

Saberq
11-21-2011, 01:22 AM
wtf is happening to Rafa he is sick all the time

Chirag
11-21-2011, 01:30 AM
Nadal to win in 2 sets

Naudio Spanlatine
11-21-2011, 01:32 AM
he was not sick all the time, he jus had a stomach flu in this match thats all

v-money
11-21-2011, 01:42 AM
how is Rafa ill?

Explosive diarrhea...

moon language
11-21-2011, 01:52 AM
If the bounce is the same as last year (dead, low bounce) then Federer's backhand won't be abused by Nadal the way it normally is so I would pick Federer.

coonster14
11-21-2011, 01:58 AM
Roger wins. Dunno if it's 2 sets or 3 sets, but Roger to prevail in the end.

MuzzahLovah
11-21-2011, 02:00 AM
Yep, if Rafa takes some peptobismal and stops shitting all over the court, I think it's curtains for humblerer. Otherwise, were going to end up with a hot steaming mess tomorrow, with Fed shanking and Nadal moonballing into another tiebreak decider.

Mimi
11-21-2011, 02:42 AM
no way rafa is going to win in this indoor surface and with Roger returning to king roger's mode :ras:

Arkulari
11-21-2011, 04:11 AM
Rafa in three I think.

Clay Death
11-21-2011, 04:21 AM
mimi is right.

fed comes in with 2 straight titles.

clay warrior still playing poorly on hard courts. nothing seems to be working. the serve is shit and the return is even worse.

and he keeps running around his backhand like he is terrified or something.

Raferminator
11-21-2011, 04:36 AM
If Muger's on the Court and Rafa goes "beep beep".
Muger must step aside or he might end up in a heap.
Spartan Warrior, Rafa runs on the court all day.
Even Muger Frauderer can't make him change his ways.

Poor Rafa, the Fedtards are after you.
Muger Frauderer, if Rafa crushes you you're through.
Vamos Rafa, the Fedtards are after you.
Muger Frauderer, if Rafa crushes you you're through.

That Muger Frauderer is really a crazy clown,
When will he learn he never can mow Rafa down?
Poor little Rafa never bothers anyone,
Winning slams his way of having fuuuuunnnnn! :)

Rafa in 3 sets, only because he is in the worst form since this time in 2009.

Mechlan
11-21-2011, 04:42 AM
and he keeps running around his backhand like he is terrified or something.

In his defense, the backhand was pretty shit today. I would run around it if I was hitting it like that and had a forehand like his.

coonster14
11-21-2011, 05:05 AM
If Muger's on the Court and Rafa goes "beep beep".
Muger must step aside or he might end up in a heap.
Spartan Warrior, Rafa runs on the court all day.
Even Muger Frauderer can't make him change his ways.

Poor Rafa, the Fedtards are after you.
Muger Frauderer, if Rafa crushes you you're through.
Vamos Rafa, the Fedtards are after you.
Muger Frauderer, if Rafa crushes you you're through.

That Muger Frauderer is really a crazy clown,
When will he learn he never can mow Rafa down?
Poor little Rafa never bothers anyone,
Winning slams his way of having fuuuuunnnnn! :)

Rafa in 3 sets, only because he is in the worst form since this time in 2009.

Where do you come up with this stuff? Classic :haha:

iriraz
11-21-2011, 05:26 AM
Both guys haven`t played that well yesterday but Nadal`s serve has been way off.Serving under 100 mph consistenly won`t be enough against Federer.
Federer is more likely to have lots of easy service games while Nadal will have plenty of games where he will struggle holding.Also how Nadal will recover after the first match will be important otherwise Federer will win it in straight sets.
I would prefer having a Federer win and a Tsonga win and then have a showdown between Nadal and Tsonga for the semifinal spot

MuzzahLovah
11-21-2011, 06:05 AM
Wow. I've come to an epiphany. I don't like Nadal's game, his tactics, his uncle, and I don't find him attractive- but Federer is an extraordinary douchebag. At first I thought he just had a thing with Djokovic, but actually, he's just a kunt in general. I'll never root for Fed against Nadal again- I don't know what I was thinking.

I do help Nadal actually beats him on this stage for the first time.

Topspindoctor
11-21-2011, 06:07 AM
Nadal to beat 2 old mugs consecutively :rocker2:

Imperfect Angel
11-21-2011, 06:12 AM
Nadal probably will fight to win in 3. Unless JesusFed shows up.

Tennis-Life
11-21-2011, 07:13 AM
Nadal to beat 2 old mugs consecutively :rocker2:

:smash:

cardio
11-21-2011, 08:28 AM
Both guys haven`t played that well yesterday but Nadal`s serve has been way off.Serving under 100 mph consistenly won`t be enough against Federer.
Federer is more likely to have lots of easy service games while Nadal will have plenty of games where he will struggle holding.Also how Nadal will recover after the first match will be important otherwise Federer will win it in straight sets.
I would prefer having a Federer win and a Tsonga win and then have a showdown between Nadal and Tsonga for the semifinal spot

It is most likely scenario. If Nadal really has some virus - and he looked like dead man walking in 3rd set - one day for recovery is not enough, especially if you have to recover from 3-hour tennis match also.His WTA serve is serious liability, Fish couldnt properly attack it, but Fed sure as hell will. Right now I think most likely semifinalists will be Fed and Tsonga.

I even think Nadal ,who knows best what problems he has with his health and his game, may already think more about Davis Cup final than dream about WTF trophy. He cant afford to go all out here , he has to be fresh and at least in average form in Sevilla Dec. 2nd.

mikkemus23
11-21-2011, 08:31 AM
Roger should win this. Easy. But the thing about match up is a concern. A third set will benefit Nadal.

Sonja1989
11-21-2011, 08:34 AM
After Nadal's yesterday performance, Federer should win this match in two. :hysteric:

nadalwon2012
11-21-2011, 08:50 AM
If Nadal wins this match it will be the greatest upset in the history of the Fedal rivalry. Federer leads 4-0 indoors, and is striking the ball with frighteningly reckless gay abandon. If Nadal wins this match it will be the most emphatic victory he's ever had over Federer, given that it is indoors and given that people are declaring Federer the favorite to win this event.

Chris Kuerten
11-21-2011, 09:00 AM
You better win this, Federer. Although he's probably shaking like a little girl already :o.

Tennis-Life
11-21-2011, 09:03 AM
7-5, 6-4 Federer :cool:

Saberq
11-21-2011, 10:11 AM
If Nadal wins this match it will be the greatest upset in the history of the Fedal rivalry. Federer leads 4-0 indoors, and is striking the ball with frighteningly reckless gay abandon. If Nadal wins this match it will be the most emphatic victory he's ever had over Federer, given that it is indoors and given that people are declaring Federer the favorite to win this event.

you are right it will be more important than Wimbledon 2008 final....:rocker:

Jaz
11-21-2011, 10:22 AM
Are Federer fans deluded?

The surface is slow as shit. Nadal is going to win this easily.

Saberq
11-21-2011, 10:33 AM
Are Federer fans deluded?

The surface is slow as shit. Nadal is going to win this easily.

you also think it's slow...because last night it was like clay

Fed_Ds
11-21-2011, 11:11 AM
If Nadal wins this match it will be the greatest upset in the history of the Fedal rivalry. Federer leads 4-0 indoors, and is striking the ball with frighteningly reckless gay abandon. If Nadal wins this match it will be the most emphatic victory he's ever had over Federer, given that it is indoors and given that people are declaring Federer the favorite to win this event.

:confused:

madmax
11-21-2011, 11:20 AM
Fed owns Nadull indoors, no? He leads the H2H here 4-0, no? GOAT to embarrass moonballer again with some bakery goods involved in a process

Sophocles
11-21-2011, 11:35 AM
An in-form Federer should be beating an out-of-sorts Nadal handily on an indoor court, as their history at this event suggests. That said, never underestimate Roger's ability to lose to Nadal, not least because Nadal's topspin seems to be kicking up higher than it did on this court last year. That is usually the decisive factor in this match-up.

arm
11-21-2011, 11:55 AM
If Nadal wins this match it will be the greatest upset in the history of the Fedal rivalry. Federer leads 4-0 indoors, and is striking the ball with frighteningly reckless gay abandon. If Nadal wins this match it will be the most emphatic victory he's ever had over Federer, given that it is indoors and given that people are declaring Federer the favorite to win this event.

::confused: lets see....

Wimbledon 2008? Even better.... AO 2009?

nadalwon2012
11-21-2011, 02:34 PM
::confused: lets see....

Wimbledon 2008? Even better.... AO 2009?

Those were outdoors, hence no surprise. Especially Wimbledon 2008, considering Nadal all but won Wimbledon 2007, so it was almost expected that Nadal win 2008 Wimbledon as his improvement on grass was continual. Indoors, Federer is undefeated vs Nadal. Even on outdoor hardcourt, Nadal leads comfortably. Indoors, so far its been impossible for Nadal to beat Federer. It would be a freakish dagger to the heart of Federer if Nadal were to win. Indoors is Federer's only refuge.

Foxy
11-21-2011, 03:04 PM
It all depends on Nadal's bad stomach. Nothing depends on the Mugestro.

MalwareDie
11-21-2011, 03:12 PM
I expect a typical match from these two. Nadal in 3, as Federer is playing worse compared to last year at this tournament.

manadrainer
11-21-2011, 03:27 PM
It all depends on Nadal's bad stomach. Nothing depends on the Mugestro.

Do you Rafa fans need excuses in advance?

Foxy
11-21-2011, 03:29 PM
Do you Rafa fans need excuses in advance?

You can't call black to the white, can you, mate?

Crazy Girl
11-21-2011, 04:21 PM
i go with my ROGI BOY...
:sport::sport::sport:

JurajCrane
11-21-2011, 04:25 PM
It all depends on Nadal's bad stomach. Nothing depends on the Mugestro.

Yes. You have to have very sad and regrettable life, little boy :wavey:

Sapeod
11-21-2011, 04:27 PM
Hopefully, Roger does what Mardy would've done if he was healthy and thrashes the pig.

Commander Data
11-21-2011, 04:33 PM
Despite his talent to clown it up Fed should beat Obelix in 3 here.

Crazy Girl
11-21-2011, 04:34 PM
Fed beats Obelix in 3.



obelix!!!

:spit::spit:

Roger the Dodger
11-21-2011, 05:00 PM
Difficult to predict. If Dullzilla sits on his head, then Roger cannot do much besides turning into Shankerror and Neterror. But if he takes it to Nadal, then the indoor conditions will do the rest for him. 3-0 vs Dullzilla on indoors.

Silvester
11-21-2011, 05:10 PM
depends which mode Fed is in..he had a pretty tough time with Tsonga.

Start da Game
11-21-2011, 05:12 PM
Judging on what I witnessed today, this will be a massive, ugly errorfest from both sides, and considering the obvious 'I-shit-in-my-pants-whenever-I-see-Thee-across-the-net'-factor from Federer's side, I'd say Nadal in three. :)

Unless either of the two manages to cut out the sloppiness, which I'm unfortunately not counting on.

StG-Toss coin-dependent, this one. ;)

concurred, good post......the result of this match could very well come down to who takes the toss and elects to serve......if nadal decides to donate the toss advantage, i can't assure a win......

this is the only match i am looking forward to in the world toast finals......anybody can take the world toast title, no botheration if nadal doesn't win......

EliSter
11-21-2011, 05:13 PM
Fedull fans cocky as always...tho im affraid Nadal have no chance here if he plays like last night.

Start da Game
11-21-2011, 05:22 PM
Difficult to predict. If Dullzilla sits on his head, then Roger cannot do much besides turning into Shankerror and Neterror. But if he takes it to Nadal, then the indoor conditions will do the rest for him. 3-0 vs Dullzilla on indoors.

that 3-0 stat has close to zero meaning......in a homogenized era, you execute your own workload......there is no scope of your opponent reducing some of your load by executing a different game and shortening points......all that means you are basically toast by the time of world toast finals because you have executed your stuff all by yourself......8 toasts contesting in an indoor tournament always benefits the one with better serve and very cunning with scheduling......

Foxy
11-21-2011, 05:43 PM
Yes. You have to have very sad and regrettable life, little boy :wavey:

Who cares since yours obviously is even more so.
Vamos!

Roger the Dodger
11-21-2011, 05:50 PM
that 3-0 stat has close to zero meaning......in a homogenized era, you execute your own workload......there is no scope of your opponent reducing some of your load by executing a different game and shortening points......all that means you are basically toast by the time of world toast finals because you have executed your stuff all by yourself......8 toasts contesting in an indoor tournament always benefits the one with better serve and very cunning with scheduling......

Eh? Stop getting all nervous before the match. I'm pretty sure Roger will wear the pink dress at the party and you'll have the last laugh.

Toast, what toast? There's only one guy getting toasted and its not piggy. :rolleyes:

GOAT = Fed
11-21-2011, 05:52 PM
Roger in 3. Also depends which Roger and which Rafa turns up.

Just like heaven
11-21-2011, 05:56 PM
I hope Rafa plays better than yesterday.

GOAT = Fed
11-21-2011, 06:02 PM
If Muger's on the Court and Rafa goes "beep beep".
Muger must step aside or he might end up in a heap.
Spartan Warrior, Rafa runs on the court all day.
Even Muger Frauderer can't make him change his ways.

Poor Rafa, the Fedtards are after you.
Muger Frauderer, if Rafa crushes you you're through.
Vamos Rafa, the Fedtards are after you.
Muger Frauderer, if Rafa crushes you you're through.

That Muger Frauderer is really a crazy clown,
When will he learn he never can mow Rafa down?
Poor little Rafa never bothers anyone,
Winning slams his way of having fuuuuunnnnn! :)

Rafa in 3 sets, only because he is in the worst form since this time in 2009.

:facepalm:

Start da Game
11-21-2011, 06:16 PM
Eh? Stop getting all nervous before the match. I'm pretty sure Roger will wear the pink dress at the party and you'll have the last laugh.

Toast, what toast? There's only one guy getting toasted and its not piggy. :rolleyes:

eight toasts
http://thetennistimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/world-tour-finals-tennis-2011.jpg

SerenaFederer
11-21-2011, 07:01 PM
Judging on what I witnessed today, this will be a massive, ugly errorfest from both sides, and considering the obvious 'I-shit-in-my-pants-whenever-I-see-Thee-across-the-net'-factor from Federer's side, I'd say Nadal in three. :)

Unless either of the two manages to cut out the sloppiness, which I'm unfortunately not counting on.

StG-Toss coin-dependent, this one. ;)

basically :o

Foxy
11-22-2011, 09:08 AM
Rogie, if you are reading this... If you lose to a bad stomach Rafa on his worst surface, while you are still having a positive H2H record off clay, you are really bad. The pressure is all on you. What are you going to do? Tick-tack...

Roadmap
11-22-2011, 09:16 AM
I just can't see Nadull's level of 'form' beating Federer here but there is always a Fed brainfart in the offing to hand piglet an unlikely and undeserved success. This years tournament has been shit, on a shit surface and will probably get even shittier (I am not mocking Nadal's stomach issues) tonight. :(

Tennis-Life
11-22-2011, 09:57 AM
I just can't see Nadull's level of 'form' beating Federer here but there is always a Fed brainfart in the offing to hand piglet an unlikely and undeserved success. This years tournament has been shit, on a shit surface and will probably get even shittier (I am not mocking Nadal's stomach issues) tonight. :(

This..

Hope Roger will do it quick in less than 60 minutes :sport:

Gagsquet
11-22-2011, 10:04 AM
What a great opportunity to improve the H2H for Fed :drool:

Saberq
11-22-2011, 10:38 AM
Rogie, if you are reading this... If you lose to a bad stomach Rafa on his worst surface, while you are still having a positive H2H record off clay, you are really bad. The pressure is all on you. What are you going to do? Tick-tack...

this guy is such a pathetic Rafatard ...I guess we wont see him when Fed beats Nadal today

gidooo
11-22-2011, 11:04 AM
Fed in 2. (70-80 min)

abollo
11-22-2011, 11:15 AM
Did Rafa withdraw?
On Aljazeera sport they just said that he was training on got our after 10 mins and would withdraw
Any confirmation?

Daniel
11-22-2011, 11:52 AM
Roger in 2 sets. Will teach Nadal a lesson

Just like heaven
11-22-2011, 11:57 AM
Did Rafa withdraw?
On Aljazeera sport they just said that he was training on got our after 10 mins and would withdraw
Any confirmation?

Maybe they were talking about Murray? :confused:

abollo
11-22-2011, 12:48 PM
Maybe they were talking about Murray? :confused:

No about Rafa. They said he practiced yesterday for 10 minutes and then stopped. I don't think this is true :confused:

Just like heaven
11-22-2011, 12:55 PM
No about Rafa. They said he practiced yesterday for 10 minutes and then stopped. I don't think this is true :confused:

Rafa only hit some balls with Toni for 20 minutes yesterday, but he said the stomach feels better and he'll be ready for the match.

GOAT = Fed
11-22-2011, 01:28 PM
Wells it's not like Rafa needs a lot of practice against Federer :p

the game plan has ben set years ago.

tektonac
11-22-2011, 02:27 PM
unhealthy dose of spin is awaiting to be served to the goat.

Foxy
11-22-2011, 02:34 PM
this guy is such a pathetic Rafatard ...I guess we wont see him when Fed beats Nadal today

Be sure you will see me and I will say: "Rafa has a bad stomach you know..." ;) So it does not count as a legitimate win. ;)

Seriously, anyone in the house with news what is going on there with Rafa? What is the deal with the practice sessions?

Sophocles
11-22-2011, 03:52 PM
If the ball's bouncing high then Nadull will win unless Roger plays a blinder.

Start da Game
11-22-2011, 04:28 PM
expecting a good match......toss will be vital.....no need to donate toss advantage if nadal is the one who wins the toss......if nadal serves first and does moderately good returning, he will win this comfortably......

Roger the Dodger
11-22-2011, 04:49 PM
expecting a good match......toss will be vital.....no need to donate toss advantage if nadal is the one who wins the toss......if nadal serves first and does moderately good returning, he will win this comfortably......

Only you would think toss is really vital in tennis, esp in this match up. what do think they're playing, cricket?

Saberq
11-22-2011, 04:53 PM
Be sure you will see me and I will say: "Rafa has a bad stomach you know..." ;) So it does not count as a legitimate win. ;)

Seriously, anyone in the house with news what is going on there with Rafa? What is the deal with the practice sessions?

yeah of course he is injured and stuff ;)

anyway he practiced for 10 minutes today....

philosophicalarf
11-22-2011, 04:56 PM
Rafa in 3, surface is slow and bouncy.

That only really helps when Nadal is at full power. Even with the matchup, I can't see how the Nadal that played in the first match has much chance.

If he's fit though, and the match is tight, usually Nadal wins.

Start da Game
11-22-2011, 05:02 PM
Only you would think toss is really vital in tennis, esp in this match up. what do think they're playing, cricket?

who said that cricket is completely toss oriented? unless the wicket becomes a rank turner in the second, that notion's entirely wrong......also there's sufficient time in a cricket match to make up for any toss related mistakes......there's very little time in a tennis match to make up for any disastrous decisions at the net......why would i want to put myself in 4-5, 5-6 situations if i am a clown server and if the match is on a hardcourt under roof?

Roger the Dodger
11-22-2011, 05:12 PM
who said that cricket is completely toss oriented? unless the wicket becomes a rank turner in the second, that notion's entirely wrong......also there's sufficient time in a cricket match to make up for any toss related mistakes......there's very little time in a tennis match to make up for any disastrous decisions at the net......why would i want to put myself in 4-5, 5-6 situations if i am a clown server and if the match is on a hardcourt under roof?

Hul-lo? Cricket depends much on the weather, on the pitch (whether it is fast, medium or slow), on whether the ball will favour the batting or the fielding side first. The length of an innings (3 &1/2 hrs) becomes a decider even more so. Haven't you seen how the right decision to bowl first in weather conditions that help the bowling side totally wreck the batting side with overall team score below hundred runs. Cricket is very toss-oriented. Often a bad decision will screw your hopes for good. Check your own Ganguly's history with bad toss decisions.

Tennis, all said and done is a game of points. If you play your points well, hold your own serve, even if you lost the toss and are at the receiving end, you can hold your own and win the set. Even if you lose the set, there's always the chance that you'll serve first the next set. Toss is hardly crucial. How you play the point is.

EliSter
11-22-2011, 05:30 PM
Only you would think toss is really vital in tennis, esp in this match up. what do think they're playing, cricket?

Its sometimes rly important mentaly who is serving first...u always have lead in the set if regulary hold...and at 5-4 or 6-5 presure is big on the other side...not saying sdg is completly right but it can be influencial in matches where one of the guys is mentaly unstable against other...like Fed against Nadal :o

Roger the Dodger
11-22-2011, 05:38 PM
Its sometimes rly important mentaly who is serving first...u always have lead in the set if regulary hold...and at 5-4 or 6-5 presure is big on the other side...not saying sdg is completly right but it can be influencial in matches where one of the guys is mentaly unstable against other...like Fed against Nadal :o

I'd still say its instrumental in certain match ups, like you've quoted, but, tennis still happens over sets and there's plenty of rhythm changes that happen, so it can't be 'vital' so as to effect the outcome. That really has to do with how each player plays his own points and holds.

Start da Game
11-22-2011, 05:43 PM
Hul-lo? Cricket depends much on the weather, on the pitch (whether it is fast, medium or slow), on whether the ball will favour the batting or the fielding side first. The length of an innings (3 &1/2 hrs) becomes a decider even more so. Haven't you seen how the right decision to bowl first in weather conditions that help the bowling side totally wreck the batting side with overall team score below hundred runs. Cricket is very toss-oriented. Often a bad decision will screw your hopes for good. Check your own Ganguly's history with bad toss decisions.

Tennis, all said and done is a game of points. If you play your points well, hold your own serve, even if you lost the toss and are at the receiving end, you can hold your own and win the set. Even if you lose the set, there's always the chance that you'll serve first the next set. Toss is hardly crucial. How you play the point is.

cricket is a complex sport involving too many external variables and teams take advantage on one thing or another batting first or second......it's not right to blame failures on toss for that reason......for example the dew factor kicks in for the team batting second particularly if they have lost the toss on a batsmen friendly wicket in day night encounters......there are plenty of things to take advantage and move on in a cricket match because a cricket match gives you time to settle in and do well irrespective of the toss......

i agree that utterly bowler friendly conditions can sometimes prove fatal to teams batting first but again you see that only like 5% of the time, not always......so cricket is not as toss oriented as it seems to be......

the recent SA-aus first test begged for some application at the wicket, both teams failed initially but south africans eventually picked it up in the second innings......people think it's completely because of bowler friendly conditions but truth remains that saffers just outplayed the aussies......

ganguly's decisions were alright some of the times, just that he din't have great bowlers to backup his decisions......i am sure you are speaking about that world cup final which our bowlers clowned it up big time......

i don't mean to say toss is important all the time in tennis either but it can play a considerable amount of part in big slam finals and semis at server friendly fast slams like wimbledon and us open......in a big final, a good server serving ahead can runaway with the match before you even realize what's happening......a weak server has to begin serving no matter what......and especially if the opponent is somebody who doesn't like serving behind, it is that much more vital.....

SetSampras
11-22-2011, 05:51 PM
Looking at this surface, I actually like Rafa's chances today. the ball has been kicking up alot more then in the past. Im sure Roger is not pleased to already be seeing Nadal under these conditions. Im sure he much rather would have waited until the finals and if Rafa would have been able to get there.

Fujee
11-22-2011, 06:03 PM
Roger in 3 I hope. Kinda used to the dissapointment of this match up so I don't mind if Roger loses this one.

dodo
11-22-2011, 07:04 PM
Looking at this surface, I actually like Rafa's chances today. the ball has been kicking up alot more then in the past. Im sure Roger is not pleased to already be seeing Nadal under these conditions. Im sure he much rather would have waited until the finals and if Rafa would have been able to get there.
yeah, surface is pretty nasty for Fed.
but catching nadal with no match practice is the best thing possible for Fed. 95% of their matches have been finals, meaning all the times Rafa has been in good form (same does not apply for Federer). when he was rusty, he has lost to some scrub in round 3.

@Sweet Cleopatra
11-22-2011, 07:10 PM
Is Rafa really sick? :sad: Get well soon Rafa, the most important thing is your health :hug:

alter ego
11-22-2011, 08:25 PM
Today:

http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/007/cache/wild-turkey_765_600x450.jpg

After this match:

http://www.enterprisemobilitymatters.com/.a/6a00e008d27b938834012875e0aaae970c-800wi

DO it in 2 please Rafael!

Are you sure you want to post this pictures? really really sure?

Rafa isn't losing to his pidgeon.

:rolleyes:
You know I'm going to bump this thread 2 days from now and make fun of you, right?

Go right ahead, I'll make the same deal with you. I think I can handle it if it would happen.

Deal :devil:

:wavey:
Please don't cry... oh wait, I changed my mind, please do. :haha:

GSMnadal
11-22-2011, 08:27 PM
:wavey:
Please don't cry... oh wait, I changed my mind, please do. :haha:

haha :lol:

Deal is a deal, congrats

_Chaz
11-22-2011, 08:28 PM
If Federer doesn't beat this Nadal, then yes, he should retire.

:wavey:

I love to read all these posts of these Nadaltards now :D

Corey Feldman
11-22-2011, 08:28 PM
Nadal to beat 2 old mugs consecutively :rocker2::lol:

how about next time "Nadal to win 4 games"

:sport:

alter ego
11-22-2011, 08:29 PM
haha :lol:

Deal is a deal, congrats

Nice to see you're fair play. :hatoff:

Chase Visa
11-22-2011, 08:34 PM
:lol:

how about next time "Nadal to win 4 games"

:sport:

:lol:

dodo
11-22-2011, 09:15 PM
expecting a good match......toss will be vital.....no need to donate toss advantage if nadal is the one who wins the toss......if nadal serves first and does moderately good returning, he will win this comfortably......

shame about the toss