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"Willy" Canas d. Haas 6-4 6-3

Bilbo
10-16-2004, 02:56 PM
Now go and win your 4th title this year :yeah:

Fedex
10-16-2004, 02:58 PM
Also Canas has won 22 of his past 24 matches :) :eek: Good job by Canas. Haas really self destructed in the 2nd set though. :banghead: :smash:

Domino
10-16-2004, 02:58 PM
Good job Guillermo, maybe you can push for a place in the MC if you keep this up.

Too bad Tommy, I was hoping he could get a third title this year to get his ranking higher for the AO.

Bilbo
10-16-2004, 03:00 PM
It's funny how everyone is talking about what a great comeback Haas has but no one is talking about Canas, he also had a long injury break and is eyeing his 4th title this year, incredible

jazz_girl
10-16-2004, 03:04 PM
Great Job Willy! :yeah: :bounce:

Fedex
10-16-2004, 03:09 PM
It's funny how everyone is talking about what a great comeback Haas has but no one is talking about Canas, he also had a long injury break and is eyeing his 4th title this year, incredible
Yes, Canas certainly deserves mention! But the 'pretty boys' Haas and Safin will always get more attention. ;)

Domino
10-16-2004, 03:16 PM
A win in Vienna will put Canas in about 12th position in the Race, and in prime position to make a push for the MC.

RPH
10-16-2004, 03:20 PM
Tommy :sad: :rolleyes:

Not the biggest fan of Canas cos of his game style but well done :)

maratski
10-16-2004, 03:20 PM
Yes, Canas certainly deserves mention! But the 'pretty boys' Haas and Safin will always get more attention. ;)

Haas ain't all that in my opinion. Canas has a nice game and a nice behind. That's something I didn't forget when he was injured ;)

Havok
10-16-2004, 03:22 PM
Haas.:(

Fedex
10-16-2004, 03:25 PM
Haas ain't all that in my opinion. Canas has a nice game and a nice behind. That's something I didn't forget when he was injured ;)
Well, while I certainly dont care what kind of 'behind he has ;), but gamestyles. And I love Haas' fluid all court game. It certainly was fluid today though :( So many unforced errors. At one point, Haas served and volleyed, he had an easy volley to the open court, but when Canas fell to get the 1st volley, Hass got distracted and volleyed into the net. :( That was just one of his SEVERAL errors in the match. :(

Bibir
10-16-2004, 03:46 PM
Yes, Canas certainly deserves mention! But the 'pretty boys' Haas and Safin will always get more attention. ;)

sad...but so true :drool: :drool: ;)

jazz_girl
10-16-2004, 03:53 PM
It's amazing what Cañas has been doing, if he wins tomorrow he'll be 15 in the ranking, if not 18!

Fedex
10-16-2004, 03:59 PM
And tie for 2nd with Roddick and Hewitt, in most titles won :eek:

Fedex
10-16-2004, 04:00 PM
It looks very much like Lopez will be his opponent in the final, and he's going to be tough for Canas.

justClaudia
10-16-2004, 05:08 PM
Great year! :clap2:

Hope he can win tomorow-no matter who he is facing- he surely deserves it!

jazz_girl
10-16-2004, 05:10 PM
Yes, he'll be facing Lopez tomorrow. He beat Sanguinetti by 6-3 6-3

TheBoiledEgg
10-16-2004, 05:11 PM
tommy :fiery: not clever
Canas played big pts better

Canas better beat "Girly Boy" tomorrow now after his semi win over "Pretty Boy"

Sjengster
10-16-2004, 06:09 PM
David Mercer and Frew McMillan are getting old. When Haas had game point at 3-3 in the second set, he came in on a big approach, Canas ripped the pass towards him and slipped over, and Haas just failed to make the difficult low volley go over the net, it dropped down on his side. Then David and Frew start saying to each other in astonishment, "Hang on a minute, it's game Haas, isn't it - haven't the players noticed? The umpire, any of the officials?" And then when Canas ended up breaking in that game, "That's simply extraordinary, when Haas had already won it." They need a visit to the optician's, because that volley definitely didn't make it into court.

As for the match itself, well, Marathon Man shows no signs of abaiting and is obviously full of confidence right now - at 2-3 in the second he was down three breakpoints, made a first serve on all of them and saved two outright with the serve, the other with a massive cross-court forehand which landed right on the sideline. As ever Haas failed to impress me by camping miles behind the baseline and trying to bash holes through one of the best defenders in the game instead of playing with some variety and intelligence for a change. You have to love the Canas fight and attitude; he shakes his head in disgust, Hewitt-style, at barely missing shots that other players would never even reach. His defensive lobs were superb, and who would have thought he'd be back in the Top 20 and closing in on a fourth title of the year?

It was revenge for the Vienna final back in 2001, so hopefully he can win the title this year - that was also the year he lost the Stuttgart final and he made up for it in 2004. Haircare Man will be dangerous with his serve, but I really can't imagine him being consistent and powerful enough off the ground to trouble Canas over five sets.

Fedex
10-16-2004, 06:14 PM
Haas could of certainly done better, by stepping into the baseline a little more, to take away Canas' time, rather than stand as far back as he did behind the baseline. He did hit some great forehands today, but his backhand was iffy, and he could've gone to the net alittle more. Thats just strategically speaking. All the unforced errors are what cost him big. I think the stats showed that he made 18 unforced errors in the 1st set. Would'nt suprise me.

Jogy
10-16-2004, 06:42 PM
So say it correct: Haas didn't plays bad and hit extraordinary winners against Canas and has sending him all over the court again and again. The difference was a few points in this match and that Canas shots landed exactly on the line when it mattered and that Tommys landed a few cm's out or that he couldn't convert that easy volley that Canas returned before slipping. That was indeed a big error :(

It was a good match of both player! Some people here always talk things bad. Don't know why :shrug:
(I agrees with Fedex, Tommys backhand was not good enough today)

I dont understands why some are even wondering that Haas makes so many unforced errors. It is his game and he has to risk shots hitting winners or else he is not Haas and he shouldn't start even playing and going on the court.
And not forget: Tommy has beaten Canas when it mattered (in the final 2001) ;) Was worth more and started a terrific indoor streak and Tommy already overachieved in this year return from what he had to endure with injury and I think another title in 2004 would be too much to ask. Canas has deserves it more that time.

So great to see Tommy back playing this way! He has a big future ahead if he stays healthy.
BTW: Canas made a good comeback, too! (Bilbo)

tangerine_dream
10-16-2004, 06:59 PM
Sucks that Tommy lost but he's still my comeback kid of the year. :)

Jogy
10-16-2004, 07:11 PM
Great year! :clap2:

Hope he can win tomorow-no matter who he is facing- he surely deserves it!
Lopez deserves the tournament too. For me it is always more entertaning if different players win some titles, so no need for me that Canas wins again when he already won 2 weeks ago.

Chloe le Bopper
10-16-2004, 07:12 PM
It's funny how everyone is talking about what a great comeback Haas has but no one is talking about Canas, he also had a long injury break and is eyeing his 4th title this year, incredible

Quite a few of us have been talking about Canas on here ;)

Chloe le Bopper
10-16-2004, 07:17 PM
Haas ain't all that in my opinion. Canas has a nice game and a nice behind. That's something I didn't forget when he was injured ;)

I'd never noticed before. I'll keep that in mind :yeah:

alfonsojose
10-16-2004, 07:18 PM
Cañas is the comeback player of the year so far. Haas has ;) three tournaments to do something and take that honour from Willy :yeah:

And imaging the face of Jim watching two Gauchos again on his stadium is :drool:

alfonsojose
10-16-2004, 07:19 PM
I'd never noticed before. I'll keep that in mind :yeah:
That's what happens when u can't take your eyes off of Tommy's butt. But who can blame u? :angel:

Chloe le Bopper
10-16-2004, 07:21 PM
Cañas is the comeback player of the year so far. Haas has ;) three tournaments to do something and take that honour from Willy :yeah:

And imaging the face of Jim watching two Gauchos again on his stadium is :drool:
I too go with Canas over Haas. Haas did start the year with no ranking, but Canas hasn't just comeback... he's probably going to have his best year end ranking ever and has an outside shot at Houston. He's comeback and seems to be every bit as good as before.

maratski
10-16-2004, 07:22 PM
Tommy's butt rules, but I remember sometimes watching Canas on tv during RG a few years back. :) At Rosmalen this year he stood in front of me for 5 minutes before getting a seat to watch Gisela Dulko. Those were 5 great minutes ;)

jazz_girl
10-16-2004, 07:28 PM
Tommy's butt rules, but I remember sometimes watching Canas on tv during RG a few years back. :) At Rosmalen this year he stood in front of me for 5 minutes before getting a seat to watch Gisela Dulko. Those were 5 great minutes ;)
:haha: :haha: :haha:

Chloe le Bopper
10-16-2004, 07:31 PM
Maratski's story reminds me a lot of Hurley's story about Calleri. Something like, during a rain delay he was standing near him under some tent and just looked at him the whole time, and what a wonderful half hour that was! Erm, I think that is how it went.

maratski
10-16-2004, 07:31 PM
He was standing on some stairs so nicely bent over a bit ;)

maratski
10-16-2004, 07:34 PM
Maratski's story reminds me a lot of Hurley's story about Calleri. Something like, during a rain delay he was standing near him under some tent and just looked at him the whole time, and what a wonderful half hour that was! Erm, I think that is how it went.

:lol:

Bilbo
10-16-2004, 07:43 PM
Sucks that Tommy lost but he's still my comeback kid of the year. :)

I wonder how you want to explain that.

There's no doubt Canas is the comeback player of the year 2004. Just look at his results.

justClaudia
10-16-2004, 10:14 PM
Lopez deserves the tournament too. For me it is always more entertaning if different players win some titles, so no need for me that Canas wins again when he already won 2 weeks ago.


Agree.

But still I'm cheering for Willy.
And still I think he totally deserves it..even though he won two weeks ago.
Makes no difference for me.He deserves.
Only my oppinion. ;)

Fedex
10-16-2004, 11:15 PM
I wonder how you want to explain that.

There's no doubt Canas is the comeback player of the year 2004. Just look at his results.
If you're expecting an explaination from her on what she posts, you can forget about it.

BaselineSmash
10-16-2004, 11:26 PM
David Mercer and Frew McMillan are getting old. When Haas had game point at 3-3 in the second set, he came in on a big approach, Canas ripped the pass towards him and slipped over, and Haas just failed to make the difficult low volley go over the net, it dropped down on his side. Then David and Frew start saying to each other in astonishment, "Hang on a minute, it's game Haas, isn't it - haven't the players noticed? The umpire, any of the officials?" And then when Canas ended up breaking in that game, "That's simply extraordinary, when Haas had already won it." They need a visit to the optician's, because that volley definitely didn't make it into court.

That was just annoyingly inept commentating. Although it was pretty hilarious to hear Mercer say "We're not senile yet, are we?" when both he and Frew were convincing each other that they were tuned in to what had happened in the game.

tangerine_dream
10-17-2004, 12:36 AM
I wonder how you want to explain that. There's no doubt Canas is the comeback player of the year 2004. Just look at his results.

I don't see a chasm between their results. Canas: 32-19 record, 3 singles titles, 1 semi, and 1 QF. Haas: 28-18 record, 2 singles titles, 3 QFs, and 1 doubles semi. Haas has crashed out in the first round of various tournaments six times this year; Canas has crashed out ten times. Considering that Haas was out the entire 2003 season due to injury, surgery, and other personal problems, his accomplishments this year are a bit more impressive to me than Canas'.

If you're expecting an explaination from her on what she posts, you can forget about it.

Ah, Fedex's hard-on for me grows bigger by the day. He must be up to two centimeters by now. Lucky me. :bolt:

Bilbo
10-17-2004, 12:38 AM
What are you doing when Willy wins his 4th title? Also he has won 25 of the last 27 matches. Haas can't compete with that.

tangerine_dream
10-17-2004, 12:45 AM
What are you doing when Willy wins his 4th title? Also he has won 25 of the last 27 matches. Haas can't compete with that.

Willy hasn't won his fourth title yet but if he does, well, good on him then. I still think that in comparison to the nightmare problems Haas had throughout 2003, Canas' accomplishments are not quite as impressive to me as what Haas has achieved this year. That's just my opinion.

TennisLurker
10-17-2004, 01:10 AM
canas played 4 tournaments last year chennai and australia (when he re injured himself) and didnt play again till costa do sauipe in september losing in the first round and shangai losing to philippoussis. he didnt play after that tournament during that year.

TennisLurker
10-17-2004, 01:12 AM
5,

I should have posted this

2003 IN REVIEW

The Argentine suffered another injury plagued season and missed eight months of actionàPlay was limited to five tournaments during yearàAfter reaching QF in Chennai (l. to Kucera) and 2nd RD at Australian Open (l. to countryman Coria), he underwent right hand surgery in New York on Mar. 14 to repair metacarpal ligament...Returned Sept. 10 in Brazil (l. to Spadea in 1st RD) and followed with 1st RD loss at Seoul ChallengeràIn next week, played last tournament of year in Shanghai and reached QF (d. A. Kim, d. Taino, l. to eventual champion Philippoussis).

jazz_girl
10-17-2004, 01:22 AM
I remember a recent interview with him in the Zabaleta tv show in which he said that he was sacred after the surgery cause there was a 30% chance that he couldn't play tennis again. It was a very risky surgery...

Marc Rosset is Tall
10-17-2004, 08:20 AM
Win that 4th title of the year Canas and this has been discussed the relative merits of Haas and Canas on the comeback thread.

Willy must win and not let the metrosexual of all metrosexuals win here in Vienna, and he will win.

Daniel
10-17-2004, 10:58 AM
congrats Canas :yeah:

Mrs. B
10-17-2004, 11:11 AM
Vamos!!!

Fedex
10-17-2004, 05:14 PM
Ah, Fedex's hard-on for me grows bigger by the day. He must be up to two centimeters by now. Lucky me. :bolt:
Ah, I see the prosaic propaganda is once again coming from you, tangerinus. A post as illiterate as this one deserves a bad rep. I will consider.