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2012 final top 10, how do you see it?

Riosreigned
11-16-2011, 12:58 AM
This year's top 10 - I just can't figure out who is likely to drop out next year and who will replace.

Djokovic
Nadal
Murray
Federer
Ferrer
Tsonga
Berdych
Fish
Tipsarevic
Almagro

Ok, I guess Tips and Almagro will fade, maybe Fish too. To name 3 replacements...go with Delpo, Dolgo and Isner. I see the top four staying the same though. Would like to hear other people's opinions of the new top 10 for next year.

Also wonder if a top 10 remained exactly the same for any two years in a row, with the exact same top 10 players but not necessarily the same sequential order.

Pirata.
11-16-2011, 02:00 AM
Berdych, Tipsarevic and Almagro

Fish probably. Tsonga and Ferrer will probably be somewhere nearby. Expect to see Soderling and Delpo make comebacks. I expect Isner or one of the young guys to maybe step up. Gasquet maybe, but he, like Cilic, chokes at important moments.

Chase Visa
11-16-2011, 04:35 AM
Djokovic
Murray
Nadal
Federer
Tsonga
Del Potro
Ferrer
Soderling
Tipsarevic
Berdych

BlueSwan
11-16-2011, 05:40 AM
Djokovic
Murray
Nadal
Federer
Tsonga
Del Potro
Ferrer
Soderling
Tipsarevic
Berdych
Mine is not far off:

1. Djokovic
2. Nadal
3. Murray
4. Federer
5. Tsonga
6. Ferrer
7. Del Potro
8. Berdych
9. Söderling
10. Dolgopolov

Topspindoctor
11-16-2011, 05:54 AM
1) Nadal
2) Djokovic
3) Olderer
4) Ferrer
5) Berdych
6) Clownga
7) Soderling
8) Dolgopolov
9) Nishikori
10) Del Potro

Roamed
11-16-2011, 06:44 AM
1) Djokovic (after much switching during the year)
2) Nadal
3) Murray
4) Fedex
5) Tsonga
6) Del Potro
7) Soderling
8) Berdych
9) Monfils
10) Nishikori (or another young gun)

nole_no1
11-16-2011, 06:47 AM
1.Djokovic
2.Murray
3.Nadal
4.Federer
5.Soderling
6.Del Potro
7.Ferrer
8.Tsonga
9.Tipsarevic
10.Dolgopolov

Time Violation
11-16-2011, 06:57 AM
Ok, I guess Tips and Almagro will fade, maybe Fish too. To name 3 replacements...go with Delpo, Dolgo and Isner. I see the top four staying the same though. Would like to hear other people's opinions of the new top 10 for next year.

Also wonder if a top 10 remained exactly the same for any two years in a row, with the exact same top 10 players but not necessarily the same sequential order.

If healthy, Fish should stay. Delpo and Soderling should return (also if healthy), Monfils perhaps. Others have a chance only if somebody gets sick/injured.

LawrenceOfTennis
11-16-2011, 08:07 AM
Nadal
Djokovic
Federer
Murray
Tsonga
Ferrer
Berdych
Fish
Soderling
Del Potro

Time Violation
11-16-2011, 08:19 AM
Nadal
Djokovic
Federer
Murray
Tsonga
Ferrer
Berdych
Fish
Soderling
Del Potro

Btw, if that happens, average age of the top 10 will be 27.3 :D

merryploughbhoy
11-16-2011, 08:33 AM
1.Djokovic
2.Murray
3.Federer/Nadal
4.Nadal/Federer
5.Tsonga
6.Del Potro
7.Soderling
8.Berdych
9.Ferrer
10.Isner/Monfils

shiaben
11-16-2011, 08:49 AM
1. Djokovic
2. Nadal
3. Murray
4. Federer
5. Tsonga
6. Ferrer
7. Del Potro
8. Berdych
9. Soderling
10. Fish

darkman.021
11-16-2011, 08:55 AM
1.Djokovic
2.Nadal
3.Murray
4.Federer
5.Soderling
6.Del Potro
7.Berdych
8.Tsonga
9.Cilic
10.Nishikori

romismak
11-16-2011, 10:16 AM
I think 90% agree that Delpo and Soderling - healthy both are safe bet to be top 10- both guys have potential to be top 5 too. Also Tipsy and Almagro are most likely going to fall out from top 10- they simply won´t have such good seasons and if they even will, Delpo,Soderling simply are much better and can get much more points to ranking. Big 4, Tsonga, Berdych i think are if not injured also safe bet to be top 10. Ferrer and Fish are question. Ferrer will defend a lot of points and is not the youngest, Fish too. I think they can be little worse next year and this could mean that other can go higher than them. Even Ferrer who is 5th, can imagine that Tsonga, Berdych, Delpo, Soderling all can go past him - that would mean 9th and imagine someone unexpected to make good run and he could finish 11th for example. Also Monfils have potential to be top 10 finally to end of the year. Dolgo-Isner can´t imagine them - one is more reliable on serve and can´t get points on clay and another is simply too inconsistent and should change service motion- i think Dolgo can´t be top 10 with his FS in 40s%, but if Almagro, Tipsy and Melzer were top 10 Dolgo and Isner have chance too.

decrepitude
11-16-2011, 10:23 AM
Lol that topspindoctor thinks Murray will not be in the top 10. Wishful thinking methinks (barring serious injury).

Puschkin
11-16-2011, 10:32 AM
Monfils missed 4 (!) ATP 1000 events this year, if he - for once- could have a complete season, he is a serious candidate for the Top Ten. And of course, I can see my boy there too, together with Dolgopolov, they will replace Fish, Almagro and Tispsarevic.

merryploughbhoy
11-16-2011, 11:11 AM
Lol that topspindoctor thinks Murray will not be in the top 10. Wishful thinking methinks (barring serious injury).

Don't worry about him, he's just a wind up merchant... Murray may well end up finishing 2nd if Nadal does'nt equal his results of this year and Murray wins a slam.

Chase Visa
11-16-2011, 11:16 AM
Lol that topspindoctor thinks Murray will not be in the top 10. Wishful thinking methinks (barring serious injury).

He's a long term anti-Murray troll. Just ignore him.

Chris Kuerten
11-16-2011, 11:21 AM
1. Djokovic
2. Federer
3. Del Potro
4. Murray
5. Nadal
6. Söderling
7. Berdych
8. Tipsarevic
9. Tsonga
10. Monfils

TennisOnWood
11-16-2011, 11:27 AM
Really don't care cause it will be same bloody Top 4 for 5th consecutive year

henke007
11-16-2011, 12:05 PM
One thing is sure Fixarevic, Almugro, Fish won't stay when much of their fluke points drop.. Also depends if Soda can compete at 100%. Delpo will for sure go back to 5th or 6th place.

Gagsquet
11-16-2011, 12:41 PM
I predict:

Djokovic
Nadal
Murray
Federer
Del Potro
Tsonga
Berdych
Gasquet
Soderling
Ferrer (tied with Monfils)

Jankotipsaurus
11-16-2011, 01:05 PM
This year's top 10 - I just can't figure out who is likely to drop out next year and who will replace.

Djokovic
Nadal
Murray
Federer
Ferrer
Tsonga
Berdych
Fish
Tipsarevic
Almagro

Ok, I guess Tips and Almagro will fade, maybe Fish too. To name 3 replacements...go with Delpo, Dolgo and Isner. I see the top four staying the same though. Would like to hear other people's opinions of the new top 10 for next year.

Also wonder if a top 10 remained exactly the same for any two years in a row, with the exact same top 10 players but not necessarily the same sequential order.

this is not final top10 positions :facepalm:

what if delpo wins or almagro in DC

Riosreigned
11-16-2011, 01:14 PM
A few observations about people's lists (thanks BTW):

It's almost unanimous that Fish is projected to face next year.

No one includes Roddick to return to top 10.

How about Tomic making a big move to top 10?

Nishikori was a surprise to see mentioned but a pretty astute pick.

Everyone expects Delpo and Soderling to bounce back strong.

How about Troicki? Imagine Serbia having three in the top 10.

emotion
11-16-2011, 01:19 PM
Djokovic
Murray
Nadal
Federer
Tsonga
Soderling
Ferrer
Almagro
Tipsarevic
Berdych

Monfils/Gonzalez/Hewitt if he plays full season, Troicki if choking ends, Isner/Gasquet if very lucky,

Riosreigned
11-16-2011, 01:24 PM
Would like to see Hewitt back in the mix but he might be a long shot to make top 50 next year.

Time Violation
11-16-2011, 01:25 PM
A few observations about people's lists (thanks BTW):

It's almost unanimous that Fish is projected to face next year.

No one includes Roddick to return to top 10.

How about Tomic making a big move to top 10?

Nishikori was a surprise to see mentioned but a pretty astute pick.

Everyone expects Delpo and Soderling to bounce back strong.

How about Troicki? Imagine Serbia having three in the top 10.

Roddick is done with top 10 most likely, Tomic, Nishikori, no way, unless they really pull something out of the hat, Troicki, has some chance, but would have to sort out atrocious court/mental attitude.

TBkeeper
11-16-2011, 01:26 PM
idk but very weak top 10-30 players ! MUG era

Riosreigned
11-16-2011, 01:58 PM
idk but very weak top 10-30 players ! MUG era

No way dude. No such thing as a weak era, those guys all earned every point they got to achieve ATP top 30 ranking. It's folly to discredit them.

Pidzoja
11-16-2011, 02:00 PM
Djokovic
Nadal
Murray
Federer
Tipsarevic
Del Potro
Ferrer
Tsonga
Raonic
Berdych

helvet empire
11-16-2011, 02:16 PM
Djokovic
Murray
Federer
Nadal
Del Potro
Tsonga
Soderling
Ferrer
Berdych
Dolgopolov

Gagsquet
11-16-2011, 02:30 PM
Basically, a full fit 2012 season of Gasquet= top 10 guarantee.

yesh222
11-16-2011, 02:34 PM
I think Tipsy and Almagro fall out. Delpo and Soderling replace them. I can't see anyone else falling out, though someone like Raonic or Isner probably comes from behind and overtakes whoever would be #10 (probably Fish or Ferrer).

GOAT = Fed
11-16-2011, 03:10 PM
IMO-

Djokovic
Nadal
Murray
Federer
Ferrer
Tsonga
Berdych
Fish-Monfils
Tipsarevic- Soderling
Almagro - Del Potro

Fish is a tough one. He's been downhill because of a few niggles, so I'm sure how his season will pan out next year tbh.

Almagro will definitely be out of the top 10 I think, unless he has another great Clay court season.

Certinfy
11-16-2011, 03:23 PM
Djokovic
Murray
Nadal
Federer
Soderling
Berdych
Tsonga
Del Potro
Monfils
Gasquet

Hesse
11-16-2011, 03:28 PM
Djoković
Murray
Nadal
Federer
Tipsarević
Monfils
Gasquet
Raonić
Del Potro
Nishikori

Everko
11-16-2011, 04:05 PM
Djoković
Murray
Nadal
Federer
Tipsarević
Monfils
Gasquet
Raonić
Del Potro
Nishikori

:o Roanic has as much chance of being top 10 than a sun baked lizard

JanKowalski
11-16-2011, 04:08 PM
So, nobody is saying Fed will fall out of top4? :devil: (I'm not saying he will, it's just curious for MTF standards)

MuzzahLovah
11-16-2011, 05:23 PM
So, nobody is saying Fed will fall out of top4? :devil: (I'm not saying he will, it's just curious for MTF standards)

Actually I was just about to. Depending on whether Nadal repeats at RG, he may fall to 3 as well.

Certinfy
11-16-2011, 05:48 PM
Most likely not. But I can see Federer being quite a distant 4th placed man from both 3rd and 5th though.

Sham Kay
11-16-2011, 05:50 PM
New top ten players may be:

Dolgopolov
Cilic (think he'll improve)
Raonic

Poirot123
11-16-2011, 07:23 PM
So, nobody is saying Fed will fall out of top4? :devil: (I'm not saying he will, it's just curious for MTF standards)

Don't see it at the moment although all the guys in the top 10 give him trouble these days. I think he'll give it one last big push next year, possibly picking up one more slam, and then post US Open 2012, will begin to slow down and start slipping down the rankings as he skips more and more tournaments.

Mountaindewslave
11-16-2011, 07:28 PM
Nadal
Murray
Djokovic
Federer
Del Potro
Berdych
Ferrer
Soderling
Dolgopolov (maybe a bit hopeful)
Roddick

LawrenceOfTennis
11-16-2011, 07:28 PM
New top ten players may be:

Dolgopolov
Cilic (think he'll improve)
Raonic

Dolgopolov has no mental for a consistent top 10 spot. Raonic can defientely surprise everybody and rush into top 10 by the year-end although he has loads of points to defend in the first two months of 2012.

viruzzz
11-16-2011, 07:43 PM
1. Federer
2. Roddick
3. Hewitt
4. Safin
5. Henman
6. Agassi
7. Haas
8. Nalbandian
9. Tomic
10. Dimitrov

LawrenceOfTennis
11-16-2011, 07:44 PM
1. Federer
2. Roddick
3. Hewitt
4. Safin
5. Henman
6. Agassi
7. Haas
8. Nalbandian
9. Tomic
10. Dimitrov

:worship: Add Delpo and it would be fucking awesome.

come2papa
11-16-2011, 07:51 PM
Djokovic
Murray
Federer
Nadal
Tsonga
del Potro
Ferrer
Troicki
Berdych
Tipsarevic

viruzzz
11-16-2011, 07:54 PM
:worship: Add Delpo and it would be fucking awesome.

Delpo would be top 10 until September, when he chokes vs Tomic because "He likes the australian vibe".
He then realises the guy is Croatian and retires until 2013, when he would triple bagel Tomic in the AO final.

Time Violation
11-16-2011, 07:55 PM
So, nobody is saying Fed will fall out of top4? :devil: (I'm not saying he will, it's just curious for MTF standards)

Only if he gets injured/gets some big fitness issue. Otherwise more likely to go up than down.

LawrenceOfTennis
11-16-2011, 07:56 PM
Delpo would be top 10 until September, when he chokes vs Tomic because "He likes the australian vibe".
He then realises the guy is Croatian and retires until 2013, when he would triple bagel Tomic in the AO final.

:lol:
cant decide whether you like him or not

Riosreigned
11-16-2011, 08:31 PM
Djokovic
Murray
Federer
Nadal
Tsonga
del Potro
Ferrer
Troicki
Berdych
Tipsarevic

Sure you want to leave out Bozoljac and Zimonjic? : )

CelesteBlanca
11-17-2011, 06:48 AM
in random order:

Djokovic,Nadal,Murray,Federer,del Potro,Tsonga,Ferrer,Soderling,Berdych,Cilic

ogre
11-17-2011, 09:54 AM
Djokovic
Nadal
Murray
Federer
Tsonga
Soderling
Del Potro
Raonic
Tomic
Dolgopolov

Actually ...it would surprise me if there is no Federer. I cannot see why he would stay if he is to end as No4...if not headed back to no1, there is no point.

henke007
11-17-2011, 09:59 AM
If Tsonga is nr 5 before Delpo and Soda that would mean that they are injured and can't play the clay season in full force..

This should be the top 10 with reservation for Soda

Djokovic
Nadal
Federer
Murray
Delpo
Soda
Tsonga
Ferrer
Berdych
Monfils

ApproachShot
11-17-2011, 11:16 AM
1. Nadal
2. Djokovic
3. Murray
4. Federer
5. Tsonga
6. Ferrer
7. Soderling
8. Del Potro
9. Berdych
10. Monfils

leng jai
11-17-2011, 11:21 AM
1. Federer
2. Roddick
3. Hewitt
4. Safin
5. Henman
6. Agassi
7. Haas
8. Nalbandian
9. Tomic
10. Dimitrov

Why so low for Haas and Safin?

Time Violation
11-17-2011, 11:28 AM
Why so low for Haas and Safin?

They need some time to shake off the rust

Riosreigned
11-17-2011, 03:08 PM
Muster has about shaken off all his rust and is now ready to regain his ranking

romismak
11-17-2011, 10:12 PM
I agree with majority of rankings. In no order just in top 10 - Most people write Big 4 and another ,,big 4,, - Delpo, Soderling, Tsonga, Berdych - guys with big serve, attacking game, power game.

Than should be there Ferrer - has already enough ammount of points for good seeding in next season, should have his QF-part of draw, that means can´t be eliminated by better players sooner than QF and get-defend enough points to stay top 10, very consistent guy,- definetely lower, he simply is not 5 best guy when others are healthy too, but should stay in top 10 pretty comfortably. I think this 9 players were wrote by more than half of people here.

Last player to make top 10 complete:
Fish - will be again older- and just can´t see him having better season, can stay in top 10, but probably will drop outside top 10
Almagro- Most likely will be outside top 10
Tipsarevic- Most likely outside just like Almagro
Who has chance to be top 10 - Isner, Dolgopolov, Gasquet, Cilic, Monfils, others maybe
From this group of guys only Monfils i think has what it takes to be in top 10 if all are fit. He has biggest potential, can play on all surfaces, but he need finally 1 year to play without injury.

Guys like Cilic, Gasquet can be good but rather solid top 20- top 15 than top 10. Isner- Dolgopolov- can be top 15, but no way can get more points than those 9 guys plus Monfils if healthy. Isner is too reliable on serve and can´t get points on clay, Dolgo is too inconsistent and his FS% is horrible, if he wannts to climb up in ranking needs higher FS%.

And last thing Almagro is not top 10 yet- to finish year in top 10. Delpo still has 2 DC matches and has his chances. It will be very difficult to beat Nadal or Ferrer on clay in ESP, but he need only 1 win - against Ferrer probably to be 10th and replace Almagro.

Egreen
11-18-2011, 03:10 PM
Djokovic(1 slam and multiple masters on HC and clay)
Murray(1 slam and multiple masters on HC)
Nadal(1 slam and 1 master)
Federer(1 slam)
Tsonga
Del Potro
Berdych
Soderling
Ferrer
Monfils

AncicCilic
11-18-2011, 07:40 PM
1. Nadal
2. Murray
3. Djokovic
4. Federer
5. Tsonga
6. Ferrer
7. Del Potro
8. Soderling
9. Berdych
10. Cilic

Other potential top 10 - Gasquet, Fish, Monfils, Dolgopolov. Can't see anyone else really.

uxyzapenje
05-25-2012, 02:19 AM
Well i was thinking that curent TOP12-15 players look so far ahead in terms of points that I do see some1 rushing on the top of the rankings any time soon. Anyways, i was thinking that the TOP10 at the end of the year would look something like:

1. Djokovic
2. Nadal
3. Federer
4. Murray
5. Del Potro
6. Berdych
7. Ferrer
8. Tsonga
9. Tipsrevic
10. Isner

In other words, almost the same, unless someone goes and injures himself.

Ferrer and Tsonga may change places, so could Berdych and Delpo, also Isner and Tipsarevic.

Only guys I see breaking this TOP10 are Raonic and Simon. I thought Nishikori could do something big big he just injured himself, so that becomes unlikely (unless he goes to SF in USO or something). I don't see Almagro getting back in the TOP10.

What are your thoughts?

rocketassist
05-25-2012, 02:26 AM
1 Jonathan Morgan
2 Xristos
3 Brian Baker
4 Carlos Berlocq
5 Alex Bogdanovic
6 The Gooch
7 Novak Djokovic
8 Rafael Nadal
9 Roger Federer
10 Andy Murray

Freak3yman84
05-25-2012, 02:30 AM
1.Chuck Norris
2.Carlos Berlocq
3.Robert Dee
4.Fabio Fognini
5.Gilles Simon
6.Fabrice Santoro
7.Pete Sampras
8.E.T.
9.Cookie Monster
10.Me

Alex999
05-25-2012, 02:30 AM
1 Jonathan Morgan
2 Xristos
3 Brian Baker
4 Carlos Berlocq
5 Alex Bogdanovic
6 The Gooch
7 Novak Djokovic
8 Rafael Nadal
9 Roger Federer
10 Andy Murray

disagree with your list ... Xristos #1, other than that, it looks pretty good :worship:

Mountaindewslave
05-25-2012, 07:37 AM
disagree with your list ... Xristos #1, other than that, it looks pretty good :worship:

i second that

JurajCrane
05-25-2012, 07:40 AM
In fact I can see Federer and Nadal fighting for Nr.1 spot. Djokovic will end 3rd imo.

Then 4.Murray, 5.Berdych, 6.Del Potro (I hope), 7. Isner (I hope), 8. Ferrer.

TigerTim
05-25-2012, 08:02 AM
1. Murray
2. Berdych
3. Federer
4. Djokovic
5. Fish
6. Nadal
7. Monflis
8. Tomic
9. Verdasco
10. Tsonga

Bayyyy
06-10-2012, 03:22 AM
Okay, it's the middle of the year now so what do you the top 10 will look like at the end of the year.
Mine are:
1. Nadal
2. Djokovic
3. Murray
4. Federer
5. Del Potro
6. Berdych
7. Tsonga
8. Ferrer
9. Simon
10. Isner

156mphserve
06-10-2012, 03:26 AM
1. Djokovic
2. Nadal
3. Tsonga
4. Federer
5. Ferrer
6. Murray
7. Del Potro
8. Berdych
9. Raonic
10. Baker

Mark Lenders
06-10-2012, 03:30 AM
1.Djokovic
2.Nadal
3.Federer
4.Murray
5.Del Potro
6.Tsonga
7.Berdych
8.Ferrer
9.Tipsarevic
10.Almagro

BroTree123
06-10-2012, 03:32 AM
1. Nadal
2. Djokovic
3. Federer
4. Tsonga
5. Murray
6. Berdych
7. Ferrer
8. Del Potro
9. Tipsarevic
10. Raonic

Freak3yman84
06-10-2012, 03:34 AM
1.Djokovic
2.Nadal
3.Federer
4.Murray
5.Tsonga
6.Berdych
7.Ferrer
8.Del Potro
9.Isner
10.Tipsarevic

Mark Lenders
06-10-2012, 03:34 AM
1. Nadal
2. Djokovic
3. Federer
4. Tsonga
5. Murray
6. Berdych
7. Ferrer
8. Del Potro
9. Tipsarevic
10. Raonic

Just a few days ago you were so pessimistic about Jo. Now you're probably too optimistic...

BroTree123
06-10-2012, 03:35 AM
Just a few days ago you were so pessimistic about Jo. Now you're probably too optimistic...

Perhaps. But I was suggesting a faster downfall for Murray than a potential downfall for Tsonga.

Mark Lenders
06-10-2012, 03:37 AM
Perhaps. But I was suggesting a faster downfall for Murray than a potential downfall for Tsonga.

Let's hope you're right about Murray's downfall :D He has been ranked too hight for too long.

156mphserve
06-10-2012, 03:38 AM
Well Tsonga is 9th in the Race, so to get to 4th he's got some work to do. Good thing Grass is coming. Meet your new Wimbledon Champion. Jo Wilfried Tsonga

Mark Lenders
06-10-2012, 03:40 AM
Well Tsonga is 9th in the Race, so to get to 4th he's got some work to do. Good thing Grass is coming. Meet your new Wimbledon Champion. Jo Wilfried Tsonga

This would be the best thing to happen in tennis for years. No one deserves a maiden Slam more than Jo, such an awesomely entertaining player.

BroTree123
06-10-2012, 03:41 AM
Let's hope you're right about Murray's downfall :D He has been ranked too hight for too long.

He's got shitloads to defend from now (bar the Rogers Cup), and then he's got that perfect Asian swing where he has like 1750 points to defend. Tsonga, although perhaps scarred for life, can at least still take some advantage here.

Don't get me wrong, I want Tsonga to win a slam but I'm just intermingling with reality here.

Mark Lenders
06-10-2012, 03:43 AM
He's got shitloads to defend from now (bar the Rogers Cup), and then he's got that perfect Asian swing where he has like 1750 points to defend. Tsonga, although perhaps scarred for life, can at least still take some advantage here.

Yeah, but he will also plenty of easy draws as per usual to rack up the points. I expect him to lose #4, but to Del Potro next year, which will be followed by a slide down the rankings.

Jo is awesome but consistency isn't his forte. Would love to see him do it, but just can't. Can more easily see him win a Slam than being consistent enough to be ranked in the top 4.

uxyzapenje
06-10-2012, 03:44 AM
I had the same thread 2 weaks ago and the mods deleted it :facepalm:
Any way:
1. Djokovic
2. Nadal
3. Federer
4. Murray
5. Del Potro
6. Berdych
7. Tsonga
8. Ferrer
9. Tipsarevic
10. Isner

BauerAlmeida
06-10-2012, 03:45 AM
1-Djokovic
2-Nadal
3-Federer
4-Del Potro
5-Berdych
6-Murray
7-Tsonga
8-Ferrer
9-Isner
10-Tipsarevic

156mphserve
06-10-2012, 03:46 AM
Yeah Murray hasn't done much this year, and will have to defend points to keep number 4, but the same goes for Tsonga except worse, 8 other players have more points than him this year. Like I said Good thing Grass is coming. As of now Ferrer would be the one to take Murray's number 4 if Murray can't defend his points, but Berdych and Delpo are pretty close too

Topspindoctor
06-10-2012, 03:48 AM
1) Nadal
2) Djokovic
3) Federer
4) Berdych
5) Tsonga
6) Ferrer
7) Del Potro
8) Raonic
9) Isner
10)Tipsarevic

J99
06-10-2012, 03:48 AM
Just so I'm clear, is this for the race or the entry?

BroTree123
06-10-2012, 03:49 AM
Yeah, but he will also plenty of easy draws as per usual to rack up the points. I expect him to lose #4, but to Del Potro next year, which will be followed by a slide down the rankings.

Jo is awesome but consistency isn't his forte. Would love to see him do it, but just can't. Can more easily see him win a Slam than being consistent enough to be ranked in the top 4.

True. It's the beauty of being ranked so high :o. Cakedraws galore.

Well first of all, it's a question of Tsonga is able to recover from the loss (you know what I'm talking about). Otherwise, overall, there isn't much to say about him right now. Same here but it seems so unlikely. Not to mention the top 3, although not playing all that great IMO, are still too damn strong for him (ie. consistency wise).

uxyzapenje
06-10-2012, 03:50 AM
Just so I'm clear, is this for the race or the entry?

Who cares? It's for the end of the year, so it's the same, no?

BauerAlmeida
06-10-2012, 03:50 AM
Just so I'm clear, is this for the race or the entry?

Aren't both the same at the end of the year?:confused:

uxyzapenje
06-10-2012, 03:51 AM
1) Nadal
2) Djokovic
3) Federer
4) Berdych
5) Tsonga
6) Ferrer
7) Del Potro
8) Raonic
9) Isner
10)Tipsarevic

Pl tell me your master plan how to get Mugray out of the TOP10. I can't see it happen, but i would love it

Mark Lenders
06-10-2012, 03:53 AM
True. It's the beauty of being ranked so high :o. Cakedraws galore.

Well first of all, it's a question of Tsonga is able to recover from the loss (you know what I'm talking about). Otherwise, overall, there isn't much to say about him right now. Same here but it seems so unlikely. Not to mention the top 3, although not playing all that great IMO, are still too damn strong for him (ie. consistency wise).

Well, let's hope he bounces back by taking Queens next week :D Let's keep positive. He really should sweep through the weak field, Mugray is the toughest opponent ffs.

Pl tell me your master plan how to get Mugray out of the TOP10. I can't see it happen, but i would love it

I believe you speak for every real tennis fan in the world :D

BroTree123
06-10-2012, 03:53 AM
Pl tell me your master plan how to get Mugray out of the TOP10. I can't see it happen, but i would love it

Same here.

Well, let's hope he bounces back by taking Queens next week :D Let's keep positive. He really should sweep through the weak field, Mugray is the toughest opponent ffs.

Given his last match, every match will be tough for Tsonga regardless of the surface, but he should just take it one match at a time. I'm not expecting him to win the whole thing, but we'll see where he goes from there.

Bayyyy
06-10-2012, 06:26 AM
Is everyone on MTF Murray haters because I am sick of it, Andy has been number 4 for 4 years now and that's because he is consistent and deserves to be there.

156mphserve
06-10-2012, 07:04 AM
nope, he droppedf to #4 for a while. Luckily for him Delpo and Soda got injured or he would probably be 5th or 6th

Moozza
06-10-2012, 09:25 AM
Is everyone on MTF Murray haters because I am sick of it, Andy has been number 4 for 4 years now and that's because he is consistent and deserves to be there.

This.

Andy is being so underrated on here right now. People need to get it into their heads that Murray is the 4th best player in the world by a long, long way. He will be in the top 4 for a while yet, no doubt. On the otherthand, why is Tsonga being so overrated all of a sudden? Lots of people tipping him for wimbeldon etc.

Chase Visa
06-10-2012, 09:30 AM
1. Djokovic
2. Federer
3. Nadal

Top 3 could be in any order, depends on what happens in the next two slams. Can't see any of them dropping out.

4. Murray

He's been in the Top 4 for a long time, there's no reason why he won't drop out now. Particularly given he'll still be mostly consistent and win some Masters, whereas the Berdych/Tsonga types probably won't.

5. Tsonga
6. Berdych
7. Ferrer
8. Del Potro

These four are a long way ahead of the rest of the pack, but none of them are consistent enough to make the Top 4, nor will their seedings help.

9. Tipsarevic
10. Almagro

Raonic's my next alternate, but these guys have picked up enough points already to keep them ahead of the pack.

J99
06-10-2012, 10:13 AM
Who cares? It's for the end of the year, so it's the same, no?

No it's not the same.

Asadinator
06-10-2012, 10:17 AM
This.

Andy is being so underrated on here right now. People need to get it into their heads that Murray is the 4th best player in the world by a long, long way. He will be in the top 4 for a while yet, no doubt. On the otherthand, why is Tsonga being so overrated all of a sudden? Lots of people tipping him for wimbeldon etc.

Maybe because he beat Fed in Wimbledon, something Murray will never be able to do.

Moozza
06-10-2012, 10:22 AM
Maybe because he beat Fed in Wimbledon, something Murray will never be able to do.

So based on one match?

And possibly the reason that Murray has not been able to do that is because he has never played Federer at Wimbeldon?

Allez
06-10-2012, 10:24 AM
1. Nadal
2. Djokovic
3. Murray
4. Federer
5. Berdych
6. Tsonga
7. Ferrer
8. Del Potro
9. Isner
10. Tipsarevic

J99
06-10-2012, 10:25 AM
This.

Andy is being so underrated on here right now. People need to get it into their heads that Murray is the 4th best player in the world by a long, long way. He will be in the top 4 for a while yet, no doubt. On the otherthand, why is Tsonga being so overrated all of a sudden? Lots of people tipping him for wimbeldon etc.

Hmm, maybe it has to do with his RG performace, but I could be wrong. :shrug:

Moozza
06-10-2012, 10:32 AM
Hmm, maybe it has to do with his RG performace, but I could be wrong. :shrug:

Tsonga was nothing different from his usual in RG. His match against Djokovic showed what he is capable of, but everyone already knew that. He is far too inconsistent and can't maintain that level of performance for a whole tournament. He struggled in the early rounds at RG and is just as capable of going out in R3 or something as he is at knocking out a big gun.

TigerTim
06-10-2012, 11:01 AM
Murray will stay top 4. His winning percent on grass is top 10 of all time, not bad for a so called 'mug on grass', I can see him winning Queens and Olympics. He is solid at Wimbledon, Good on the hard running up to and including the USO, Murray's game suits the faster hard courts. Furthermore he often sweeps the so called Asian swing and has few points to defend indoors were I could see him doing well.

70-68
06-10-2012, 11:14 AM
Can any of the ballbashertards explain what has Tsonga or Berdych done in the last 12 months, or even in 2012, that would put them ahead of Murray? I'm really curious.

buzz
06-10-2012, 11:25 AM
This.

Andy is being so underrated on here right now. People need to get it into their heads that Murray is the 4th best player in the world by a long, long way. He will be in the top 4 for a while yet, no doubt. On the otherthand, why is Tsonga being so overrated all of a sudden? Lots of people tipping him for wimbeldon etc.

Tsonga was nothing different from his usual in RG. His match against Djokovic showed what he is capable of, but everyone already knew that. He is far too inconsistent and can't maintain that level of performance for a whole tournament. He struggled in the early rounds at RG and is just as capable of going out in R3 or something as he is at knocking out a big gun.

You are answering your own question. Murray is consistently losing at GS against top3 players and mostly beating the rest. Tsonga can go on a run and once in a while beat some top3 guys so thats why I think he has more chance to win the whole thing. If I have to put money on one of those guys reaching the semi I would chose Murray.

Allez
06-10-2012, 11:26 AM
Fed has a lot of points to defend post USO.

Federer in 2
06-10-2012, 11:29 AM
Murray will improve his position in 2012? :haha:

1.Djokovic
2.Federer/Nadal
3.Federer/Nadal
4.Murray
5.Ferrer
6.Tsonga
7.Berdych
8.Del Potro
9.Tipsarevic
10.Almagro

Jafooli
06-10-2012, 11:39 AM
Let's hope you're right about Murray's downfall :D He has been ranked too hight for too long.

Well does that not tell you something?

Maybe he's been ranked at 4 for so long because, you know, he is the 4th best player?

Backhand_Maestro
06-10-2012, 12:09 PM
Murray will improve his position in 2012? :haha:

1.Djokovic
2.Federer/Nadal
3.Federer/Nadal
4.Murray
5.Ferrer
6.Tsonga
7.Berdych
8.Del Potro
9.Tipsarevic
10.Almagro

Federer is waning, badly

Moozza
06-10-2012, 12:11 PM
Can any of the ballbashertards explain what has Tsonga or Berdych done in the last 12 months, or even in 2012, that would put them ahead of Murray? I'm really curious.

I think there are two reasons that people are putting Berdych and Tsonga ahead of Murray, both of them wrong/invalid.

The first is just simply their dislike of Murray. He has alot of haters on here who let their feeling cloud their judgement, this makes what they think worthless.

There is also the people who are reading too much into Murrays clay season. Last year aside, where he got alot of luck with draws, it has been a normal clay season for him.

Chase Visa
06-10-2012, 12:47 PM
Well does that not tell you something?

Maybe he's been ranked at 4 for so long because, you know, he is the 4th best player?

Yeah, amazing isn't it?

J99
06-10-2012, 07:02 PM
Tsonga was nothing different from his usual in RG. His match against Djokovic showed what he is capable of, but everyone already knew that. He is far too inconsistent and can't maintain that level of performance for a whole tournament. He struggled in the early rounds at RG and is just as capable of going out in R3 or something as he is at knocking out a big gun.

Yeah, but you gotta understand that he did this on clay, his worst surface, to the best player in the world, if that's not impressive, I don't know what is, it seems he will be ready for either Wimby or the Olympics to win one of them.

156mphserve
06-10-2012, 07:45 PM
Can any of the ballbashertards explain what has Tsonga or Berdych done in the last 12 months, or even in 2012, that would put them ahead of Murray? I'm really curious.

I can help you with the Berdych part

http://live-tennis.eu/race

I think there are two reasons that people are putting Berdych and Tsonga ahead of Murray, both of them wrong/invalid.

This thread is about guessing, nothing is wrong until the year ends and we know the answer

JanKowalski
11-09-2012, 07:06 PM
Noone was even close.

Looner
11-09-2012, 07:07 PM
GOAT defying expectations again :bowdown:.

JanKowalski
11-09-2012, 07:09 PM
1. Djokovic
2. Federer
3. Del Potro
4. Murray
5. Nadal
6. Söderling
7. Berdych
8. Tipsarevic
9. Tsonga
10. Monfils

I think only this post predicted the top 2 correctly + Murray above Nadal.