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Discussion about the London Olympics

Mr.Michael
11-12-2011, 10:29 PM
Maybe a few thoughts about the upcoming Olympics?

Is someone really gonna play singles, doubles and mixed? I can't imagine so. The schedule must be brutal. Only men's singles finals will be best of five?

How are the grass courts gonna be prepared after Wimbledon? I haven't really read anything about it.

I do have a feeling all the top players will be there. Maybe someone has to pull out at the last second, but I believe everyone is pretty interested.

I have to admit the qualification rules are a bit mysterious to me. Ok, in singles it obviously goes by the rankings(and four players from one country max), but the doubles and mixed are a question mark. So are the wild cards. I'm very interested to see if Massu and Gonzalez are gonna get something.

Still kind of think that the 1992 Olympics were the most interesting. There were some incredible doubles pairings.

Silvester
11-12-2011, 11:01 PM
Fed has plans to enter singles, doubles and mixed doubles however I don't think he'll end up playing mixed (with Hingis).

Topspindoctor
11-13-2011, 01:21 AM
2012 Olympics will be huge and I can't wait. Whoever takes the singles gold will be as good as a slam winner.

Roadmap
11-13-2011, 01:27 AM
I wonder what kind of grass they will use? Hopefully not the 'grass' they use at Wimbledon.

Sham Kay
11-13-2011, 01:27 AM
Expensive is the first and last thing that comes to mind.

I'm just glad it's at Wimbledon. Makes it seem like it's not part of the Olympics itself.

Roadmap
11-13-2011, 01:28 AM
They are playing at Wimbledon. Shit :facepalm:

Saberq
11-13-2011, 01:42 AM
I wonder what kind of grass they will use? Hopefully not the 'grass' they use at Wimbledon.

what do you mean?It's on Wimbledon

Roadmap
11-13-2011, 01:51 AM
They should play on some real grass courts.

Mr.Michael
11-13-2011, 02:03 AM
Olympic tennis has almost everytime been played on a hard court, which is very logical. The fact that they are playing this time on grass is pretty cool and special. Of course Wimbledon was the obvious site. And I'm pretty sure the All England Lawn Tennis Club would have never even considered a temporary hard court to be used.

At the 1908 Olympics there were six events. Men's singles and doubles outdoors + indoors and women singles outdoors + indoors.

Now they should do it the same way, just add the women's doubles outdoors/indoors and mixed doubles both outdoors + indoors. And all the events should be played in seven days.

In 1908 the outdoor events were held at Worple Road and the indoor events were held at Queen's club.

Clay Death
11-13-2011, 02:33 AM
this is not the best deal for murray.

they should have used the O2 arena. he is better on hard courts.

oh well. so the gold goes to one of following 3:

1. nole
2. fed
3. clay warrior

Mr.Michael
11-13-2011, 02:42 AM
Josiah Ritchie won three medals at the 1908 Olympics, including the singles gold outdoors. He was known as Ritchmug. If history repeats itself, we will have a surprising winner next summer.

abraxas21
11-13-2011, 02:45 AM
the olympics dont have enough pedigree in tennis. they're not that important

viruzzz
11-13-2011, 06:17 AM
the olympics dont have enough pedigree in tennis. they're not that important

True.
But I think Roger and Nole would be so motivated. Roger knows this is the last chance he has, and Nolevic needs to win something for his country after his awful Davis Cup moment.

MuzzahLovah
11-13-2011, 07:00 AM
But when are the Olympics? Last time, weren't they right after Wimbledon? Will it be Wimbledon then like a week, then the Olympics? They aren't merging them right?

GSMnadal
11-13-2011, 07:25 AM
I think the olympics are becoming more and more important. The players realize they probably only get 2 or 3 shots at it in their career, and that we are talking about the biggest sports event on the planet. Just look at the reactions from Rafa and Novak in the video below, or look at Federinka when they took the gold in doubles. The olympics is the first tournament you'd want to win after the 4 slams.

OPoKUbTojxU

Just a little teaser, now that was a fast hardcourt :inlove:

wally1
11-13-2011, 08:47 AM
this is not the best deal for murray.

they should have used the O2 arena. he is better on hard courts.

oh well. so the gold goes to one of following 3:

1. nole
2. fed
3. clay warriorNo room for the required number of courts in the O2, plus it's being used for gymnastics & basketball. Tennis was always going to be at Wimbledon anyways. For these Olympics they've tried to make as much use as they can of famous/landmark sites - Wimbledon, Lords Cricket Ground, Wembley, Horse Guards Parade, Hyde Park, Greenwich Park etc...

I'm just fed up I didn't get any tennis tickets.

wally1
11-13-2011, 08:53 AM
But when are the Olympics? Last time, weren't they right after Wimbledon? Will it be Wimbledon then like a week, then the Olympics? They aren't merging them right?Wimbledon mens final is on 8th July. Olympic tournament starts on 28th July (i.e. 3 weeks later).

Roamed
11-13-2011, 09:04 AM
I can't wait! I have a ticket to Center Court for Round 3 :D It's going to be fun that the grass season will be sort of stretched as a result.

xdrewitdajx
11-13-2011, 09:15 AM
the olympics dont have enough pedigree in tennis. they're not that important

everything has to start somewhere...

pesto
11-13-2011, 09:31 AM
I think this is the first time there feels like a buzz about Olympic tennis. Lots of players didn't want to go to Beijing mid-season.

Greenwich end of town will be quite busy enough, thanks, what with the horsey people in the park and the shooters at Woolwich, as well as the gynastics and basketball.

I don't think there was ever any chance they'd go elsewhere than Wimbledon. A lot more spectator room too. O2 has a bigger capacity than CC, but once you add in C1, 2, 3, that's a lot of seats on show courts, plus all the outer courts for earlier rounds.

Certinfy
11-13-2011, 09:37 AM
Perfect setting and I can't wait to go. :)

I assume a fair amount of player will just stay in London post Wimbledon for the Olympics? :confused:

n8
11-13-2011, 09:59 AM
OPoKUbTojxU


That was the real gold medal match. The winner of that was always going to be Blake or Gonzalez. At least Nole still got a medal.

n8
11-13-2011, 10:01 AM
Wimbledon mens final is on 8th July. Olympic tournament starts on 28th July (i.e. 3 weeks later).

The longest grass court season in a long time. :) It's good that top players won't have to play any mandatory tournaments in between.

fran70
11-13-2011, 10:02 AM
Agree. Wimbledon is the perfect place to hold the Olympic tennis.

I`m not so sure about the rules: They consider the rankings and a maximum of four players per country. 64 players draw in singles (56 direct acceptance + 8 WC) but not sure about the doubles draw (If I`m not wrong the draw is of 48 teams) . The defending champion (Nicolas Massu) deserves to receive one of those WC.

Looks like that these Olympic games are going to be the place where many players will end their careers.

BodyServe
11-13-2011, 11:00 AM
I wonder how they will refresh the courts? will they bring Halle's fake grass?

pesto
11-13-2011, 11:11 AM
Water, sun, Miracle-Gro, Flymo, roller...

Start da Game
11-13-2011, 11:22 AM
what history!

http://karenswhimsy.com/public-domain-images/ancient-olympics/images/ancient-olympics-4.jpg

http://sportsanddrugs.procon.org/files/sportsanddrugs/ancientgreeks.jpg

http://static.wix.com/media/3174bdbe8d71975223df919c23c9f1bf.wix_mp

http://www.historyking.com/images/Ancient-Olympics-Race-Track.jpg

http://cybertraveltips.com/images/Ancient-Greece-Olympics.jpg

Start da Game
11-13-2011, 11:23 AM
http://www.buzzle.com/img/articleImages/1514-0.jpg

http://www.lucid-minds.com/twitter/images3/24anc1.jpg

http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/olympics/thumbnails/torch2.gif

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_UgebAK5e-_c/Ssc47MAaFSI/AAAAAAAAAiM/m5FuWzWxvig/s320/nicolasmassuaig.jpg

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/olympics/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20070725/001aa018ff9c081144c102.jpg

http://www.halloffamememorabilia.com/images/products/p-284831-rafael-nadal-2008-spain-olympics-tennis-8x10-photograph-celebrating-aaa-11021.jpg

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00792/rafa_nadal_792134c.jpg

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/08/17/nadal2.jpg

n8
11-13-2011, 11:27 AM
Agree. Wimbledon is the perfect place to hold the Olympic tennis.

I`m not so sure about the rules: They consider the rankings and a maximum of four players per country. 64 players draw in singles (56 direct acceptance + 8 WC) but not sure about the doubles draw (If I`m not wrong the draw is of 48 teams) . The defending champion (Nicolas Massu) deserves to receive one of those WC.

Looks like that these Olympic games are going to be the place where many players will end their careers.

Massu isn't defending champion. He won singles and doubles in the '04 Olympics.

emotion
11-13-2011, 12:36 PM
gonzalez has got to get a wc. I rather think that since hewitt won wimbledon, him too. Haas is also someone who wont make cut off who has had good results. Newport's field being good for once might be a weird side effect

Mr.Michael
11-13-2011, 01:04 PM
The IOC will affect the wild cards and I believe they are called invitations and the ITF gives out "ITF places".

Arevalo(El Salvador) and Loglo(Togo) played in Beijing 2008.
In Athens 2004 there weren't many odd names. Maybe Ouhab(Algeria)was the closest.
Sydney 2000 featured Camacho(Bolivia), Savolt(Hungary)and Pognon(Benin).

I guess it's safe to say those guys were true mugs.

Start da Game
11-13-2011, 05:13 PM
what top class tennis last time on such a fast court,

OPoKUbTojxU

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nadal's 2008 level was out of this universe......when you play at that level again rafa?

fran70
11-13-2011, 06:42 PM
Massu isn't defending champion. He won singles and doubles in the '04 Olympics.

You are right. Sorry for the mistake ;)

octatennis
11-13-2011, 11:40 PM
so the surface is going to be clay after they play wimbledon.

Mr.Michael
11-13-2011, 11:54 PM
I guess the Olympic tournament takes 7 days? I'm really looking forward to the scheduling. And at the end of the week I hope someone is still involved in singles, doubles and mixed...I remember how insane the scheduling was when Massu won those two goldmedals in Athens.

Just had a horrible thought. What if it rains the first three days..? It's gonna be a catastrophe.

Saberq
11-13-2011, 11:56 PM
I guess the Olympic tournament takes 7 days? I'm really looking forward to the scheduling. And at the end of the week I hope someone is still involved in singles, doubles and mixed...I remember how insane the scheduling was when Massu won those two goldmedals in Athens.

Just had a horrible thought. What if it rains the first three days..? It's gonna be a catastrophe.

ROOF

Mr.Michael
11-14-2011, 12:08 AM
ROOF

Yes, for the first three days, that's really gonna help.:confused:

I guess nobody knows how the mixed teams gonna qualify? They just ask who wants to play?

The doubles are also a bit confusing. All the top 10 doubles players are allowed to pick their partner.

There might be great pairs. And possibly for the first time since the first world war someone is interested in mixed doubles.;)

Let's see:
Roddick/Serena
Hewitt/Stosur
Djokovic/Ivanovic
Federer/Hingis
Petzscher/Petkovic
Tursunov/Sharapova
Tsonga/Bartoli
Nalbandian/Dulko

Saberq
11-14-2011, 12:23 AM
Yes, for the first three days, that's really gonna help.:confused:

I guess nobody knows how the mixed teams gonna qualify? They just ask who wants to play?

The doubles are also a bit confusing. All the top 10 doubles players are allowed to pick their partner.

There might be great pairs. And possibly for the first time since the first world war someone is interested in mixed doubles.;)

Let's see:
Roddick/Serena
Hewitt/Stosur
Djokovic/Ivanovic
Federer/Hingis
Petzscher/Petkovic
Tursunov/Sharapova
Tsonga/Bartoli
Nalbandian/Dulko

you should relax it might be a nice weather

Roadmap
11-14-2011, 12:26 AM
you should relax it might be a nice weather

In Britain we can never be too confident of this :haha: If global warming takes place, Britain will be left out :rolleyes:

Roadmap
11-14-2011, 12:28 AM
I guess the Olympic tournament takes 7 days? I'm really looking forward to the scheduling. And at the end of the week I hope someone is still involved in singles, doubles and mixed...I remember how insane the scheduling was when Massu won those two goldmedals in Athens.

Just had a horrible thought. What if it rains the first three days..? It's gonna be a catastrophe.

This will most probably happen :facepalm:

Mr.Michael
11-14-2011, 12:28 AM
you should relax it might be a nice weather

London and the British summer. Don't hold your breath.

Slice Winner
11-14-2011, 12:37 AM
Will it actually take place over 7 days? That makes playing in 3 events a nightmare for those who might.

StevoTG
11-14-2011, 01:32 AM
It's gonna be huge, a once in a lifetime thing. I'm really excited about it. An actual grass court season, with two major titles to play for!

I personally hope Hewitt and Roddick, guys who have loved the grass courts but are now not in great shape, will be able to 'roll back the years', for want of a better term. I don't expect a surprise winner though. The three singles medals could well go to three of four from Federer, Djokovic, Nadal and Murray when you consider how consistent they are at making semi's and finals. Would like to be wrong about that.

As has already been mentioned, Newport could have a strong field as a result of the Olympics. Even a guy like Roddick, for example, if he went out early at Wimbledon, could ask for a WC to Newport.

Saberq
11-14-2011, 02:20 AM
In Britain we can never be too confident of this :haha: If global warming takes place, Britain will be left out :rolleyes:

Actually with the global warming British summers will be like in Greece today in 50 years.......anyway I was in London 3 years ago in June spent 3 days and all 3 were nice and sunny.....:D

tommyg6
11-14-2011, 02:24 AM
They should make it a 128 player draw.

Add countries like Switzerland, USA, Spain, France, Great Britain, Canada, Israel, Russia, Italy, Brasil, Colombia, Argentina, Chile, South Africa, Turkey, Finland, Czech Republic, Croatia, Germany, Sweden, Ukraine, Austria, Portugal, Romania, Poland, Japan, Australia, India, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Cyprus, Taipei, thats it.

Getta
11-14-2011, 02:33 AM
Actually with the global warming British summers will be like in Greece today in 50 years.......anyway I was in London 3 years ago in June spent 3 days and all 3 were nice and sunny.....:D

simply sweet, London is increasingly becoming a sunbathing hotspot for Europeans.

Mr.Michael
11-14-2011, 04:35 PM
Obviously some top 30 names will be missing. But I'm guessing it will be only two or three names. And injuries will propably be the only reason. Except for Dolgopolov, I guess he can't play, because he hasn't played DC.