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Luinir
11-11-2011, 08:47 AM
Djokovic withdraws.

Luinir
11-11-2011, 08:48 AM
Dear fans and friends, sadly i have to inform you that i have withdrawn from the further tournament. I have pushed myself to the limit by playing, and after the match yesterday my shoulder got worse. For this reason, i have to put my health first and withdraw even though my urges as a professional player are making me want to play until the last drop of energy. I am very sorry for all of you who bought tickets and wanted to come to watch me play. My season has been long and tiring, i played all of my matches at my highest level, and now my body is aching for recovery. Hoping for your understanding and support,
Love
Nole

Pirata.
11-11-2011, 08:54 AM
He tried so hard to tank for Viktor's sake :sad:

leng jai
11-11-2011, 08:56 AM
Smart move. Beat some gimps to make his year W/L better than withdraw as soon as hes against a decent player.

green25814
11-11-2011, 09:01 AM
Jeez, what a dick. Don't play the tournament to begin with if you're genuinely injured.

Typical Nole.

shadows
11-11-2011, 09:01 AM
lol @ Djokovic ducking Tsonga.

alter ego
11-11-2011, 09:04 AM
Boooooooo

Aenea
11-11-2011, 09:04 AM
Jeez, what a dick. Don't play the tournament to begin with if you're genuinely injured.

Typical Nole.

Ditto.

@luinir: Can you provide a link to that message. Where did you get it?

Pirata.
11-11-2011, 09:06 AM
Ditto.

@luinir: Can you provide a link to that message. Where did you get it?

It's on his twitter page
http://twitter.com/DjokerNole

Tennis-Life
11-11-2011, 09:07 AM
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/11112011/58/djokovic-pulls-paris-masters.html

I think Djokovic made the right decision before WTF

madmax
11-11-2011, 09:07 AM
Fakervic at his best again:bowdown:
What a gracious and respectable superstar he is - this is a stuff even spartans would be proud of

Ad Wim
11-11-2011, 09:11 AM
Expected. He shouldn't have played in the first place.

Sallydaisy
11-11-2011, 09:14 AM
Troicki will be so pleased about this.

TennisOnWood
11-11-2011, 09:14 AM
Expected. He shouldn't have played in the first place.

And to miss that money stupid ATP wanted to donor him?? No way

SloKid
11-11-2011, 09:15 AM
Expected. He shouldn't have played in the first place.
$imp£€ r€a$on for why h€ p£ay€d, w€ a££ know it.

Orka_n
11-11-2011, 09:16 AM
lol. Expected stuff and it only makes Troicki's uselessness in the last match even more embarrassing.

Ouragan
11-11-2011, 09:16 AM
This Tsonga is good, who else beats the world N.1 without losing a set?

simplet
11-11-2011, 09:16 AM
Too good this Tsonga.

Won the psychological war with his terrifying trash talking last night, he really is Mohammed Ali.

Aenea
11-11-2011, 09:18 AM
It's on his twitter page
http://twitter.com/DjokerNole

thank you :)

$imp£€ r€a$on for why h€ p£ay€d, w€ a££ know it.

:lol:

Ouragan
11-11-2011, 09:19 AM
$imp£€ r€a$on for wh¥ h€ p£ay€d, w€ a££ know it.
Fixed it.

MaxPower
11-11-2011, 09:19 AM
well we all knew he came for the money. Guess the serbian hiearchy system still forced him to beat Troicki. On the minus side he might not get a christmas card from Viktor now

Deivid23
11-11-2011, 09:23 AM
Hopefully this will make Troicki´s self confidence sink and he gets the fuck out of the top 100 asap

sicko
11-11-2011, 09:23 AM
And there goes the SF streak. So I guess now Nole has no major streak left? (besides GS)

bjurra
11-11-2011, 09:24 AM
well we all knew he came for the money. Guess the serbian hiearchy system still forced him to beat Troicki. On the minus side he might not get a christmas card from Viktor now

He tried to lose at first but he then saw how shit Viktor was and decided Viktor wasn't worthy of a QF place.

bjurra
11-11-2011, 09:25 AM
Hopefully this will make Troicki´s self confidence sink and he gets the fuck out of the top 100 asap

Lol...Unfortunately, I think Viktor is immune to letting his confidence sink too much, regardless how crap he is.

SloKid
11-11-2011, 09:28 AM
Fixed it.
:hatoff:

DanaKz
11-11-2011, 09:30 AM
Hopefully this will make Troicki´s self confidence sink and he gets the fuck out of the top 100 asap

:superlol:

MariaV
11-11-2011, 09:31 AM
Yeah way to treat your mate. :rolleyes:
But of course if Viktor wasn't so shit Nole would not have won. :tape:

coonster14
11-11-2011, 09:33 AM
Expected... Next. Nole, rest up for the WTF and let's see what happens with him there, would be great to see him win that to cap off an incredible season (although post US Open has been a lot of time off with injuries)

Him and his decision to play that Davis Cup match against Delpo when he should have been resting - dumbest decision he's made all year. :help:

Super Djoker
11-11-2011, 09:38 AM
Might aswell skip the tour finals! So frustrating Djokovic keeps getting injury,s! Or rather the same damn one!

rickcastle
11-11-2011, 09:38 AM
He shouldn't have played the tournament in the first place, lbr I think he really did it for the cash, there was nothing else to gain by pushing yourself when there are bigger and better things to achieve on the horizon. In the end, this is a smart move but the smarter move is to not have joined this tournament at all and avoid further aggravation to his body.

iriraz
11-11-2011, 09:44 AM
Surely if he doesn`t improve his shoulder condition by middle of next week it will be pointless going to London.He struggled in his matches against Malisse,Nishikori or Troicki last 2 weeks,it will be impossible to compete against the likes of Federer,Murray,Tsonga or even Ferrer like this.

Luinir
11-11-2011, 09:45 AM
Surely if he doesn`t improve his shoulder condition by middle of next week it will be pointless going to London.He struggled in his matches against Malisse,Nishikori or Troicki last 2 weeks,it will be impossible to compete against the likes of Federer,Murray,Tsonga or even Ferrer like this.

Even Nadal can have a chance. :p

iriraz
11-11-2011, 09:54 AM
Even Nadal can have a chance. :p

They are in different groups and both guys will have a tough time getting through to the semis for them to meet

Luinir
11-11-2011, 09:55 AM
I think Nadal will be in semis easily. He really cannot lose to likes of Tsonga, Berdych, Ferrer or Fish on this slow surface.

Art(e)mio
11-11-2011, 09:59 AM
Money, money, money
Always sunny,
In the rich men world!

iriraz
11-11-2011, 10:02 AM
I think Nadal will be in semis easily. He really cannot lose to likes of Tsonga, Berdych, Ferrer or Fish on this slow surface.

U know how the group stage works.One bad loss to either Federer or Murray and even with 2 wins it could be close to get through.2 years ago Murray with 2 wins didn`t make it to the semis by 1 or 2 game difference vs Del Potro.

Luinir
11-11-2011, 10:03 AM
But it's rare. Plus it's not like that Nadal has no chance against Fed or Murray.

scoutreporter
11-11-2011, 10:04 AM
what a bunch of idiots on these forums... Mainly Nadal/federer fans , or nole haters... I just thhink its pathetic to hate a player, who is a rival for your idol, in this case, Nole haters... It does not make sence to me. I am Nole fan, but i don't hate Nadal or Roger, in fact, i cheer for nadal most of the times when he is not playing nole. As for federer, i just don't like him, and I did not like him even before Nole turned pro. he is too arrogant for my liking, just like hes pathetic fans...

Sri
11-11-2011, 10:06 AM
Do I get points for accurate prediction?

Tsonga to remind Novak of his career threatening, chronic shoulder injury.

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=11483696&postcount=4

bjurra
11-11-2011, 10:07 AM
Only Dick here is you, and your parents... Cousins shouldn't have children together...

It was definitely a legitimate opinion even though I personally sympathize with Nole being unable to turn down a huge pile of cash.

bjurra
11-11-2011, 10:10 AM
what a bunch of idiots on these forums... Mainly Nadal/federer fans , or nole haters... I just thhink its pathetic to hate a player, who is a rival for your idol, in this case, Nole haters... It does not make sence to me. I am Nole fan, but i don't hate Nadal or Roger, in fact, i cheer for nadal most of the times when he is not playing nole. As for federer, i just don't like him, and I did not like him even before Nole turned pro. he is too arrogant for my liking, just like hes pathetic fans...

Blablabla. How old are you? 13?

Puschkin
11-11-2011, 10:11 AM
How much luck for Tsonga, the most easy draw to be imagined and then this.

Nole fan
11-11-2011, 10:11 AM
You people are so disgraceful! :facepalm:
Thanks god I'm not going to be around anymore to listen to any of your pathetic nonesense.

Nole sweetheart take care, you are and always will be nº1 champ. :hug:
Clownga will breath with relief now. Hope Muzza wins this.

Sri
11-11-2011, 10:16 AM
You people are so disgraceful! :facepalm:
Thanks god I'm not going to be around anymore to listen to any of your pathetic nonesense.

Nole sweetheart take care, you are and always will be nº1 champ. :hug:
Clownga will breath with relief now. Hope Muzza wins this.
:lol: SpartaNole FTW!

Shinoj
11-11-2011, 10:22 AM
Honestly an idiotic decision to participate in Paris.

Sri
11-11-2011, 10:23 AM
Honestly an idiotic decision to participate in Paris.
And by extension, idiotic to continue playing when you're about to lose. :o

bjurra
11-11-2011, 10:24 AM
Honestly an idiotic decision to participate in Paris.

Blame the stupid ATP bonus money.

paseo
11-11-2011, 10:25 AM
What a mug, this Troicki.

Sri
11-11-2011, 10:26 AM
Blame the stupid ATP bonus money.
Obviously a Federer conspiracy to keep Novak injured! http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQmNKIBCwrnKHujwPRolpXhTHQ-DJwFxR9rn64atlJO2mV42_V4uh1lIxNp

Shinoj
11-11-2011, 10:27 AM
Blame the stupid ATP bonus money.

What money does Novak require. He could feed half of Serbia as of now.

TennisOnWood
11-11-2011, 10:29 AM
Blame the stupid ATP bonus money.

Money for playing MANDATORY Premium ATP events.. crazy world

Aenea
11-11-2011, 10:30 AM
What money does Novak require. He could feed half of Serbia as of now.

the more you have the more you want. there are no greedier people than the reach ones.

bjurra
11-11-2011, 10:36 AM
Money for playing MANDATORY Premium ATP events.. crazy world

They are not mandatory for injured players. Anyway, I was referring to the bonus players get if they play 8 or 9 of the 1000 events.

Sophocles
11-11-2011, 10:36 AM
Just rehabilitate that shoulder you twat. I want more Nadull beatings next year.

TennisOnWood
11-11-2011, 10:38 AM
They are not mandatory for injured players. Anyway, I was referring to the bonus players get if they play 8 or 9 of the 1000 events.

I know.. but they are still 9 of 14 biggest tournaments in the season.. and you will get this amount of money for playing them if you are World number 1. Just no sence

bjurra
11-11-2011, 10:38 AM
What money does Novak require. He could feed half of Serbia as of now.

Turning down 1.6 million USD to step on court in Bercy would be a waste even for Nole.

Kat_YYZ
11-11-2011, 10:39 AM
wow, viktor must really hate him :lol:
maybe now Nadal is kicking himself for not playing here :lol:

Aenea
11-11-2011, 10:40 AM
They are not mandatory for injured players. Anyway, I was referring to the bonus players get if they play 8 or 9 of the 1000 events.

they are mandatory even for injured players otherwise top players wouldn't get a zero pointer to their rankings if they didn't show up. If injured they should at least show up at the event and do some promotion to avoid the zero pointer. But for that 2mil bonus they must play AFAIK

bjurra
11-11-2011, 10:40 AM
wow, viktor must really hate him :lol:

Viktor should hate himself. Intensely.

bjurra
11-11-2011, 10:42 AM
they are mandatory even for injured players otherwise top players wouldn't get a zero pointer to their rankings if they didn't show up. If injured they should at least show up at the event and do some promotion to avoid the zero pointer. But for that 2mil bonus they must play AFAIK

What kind of logic is that? So Olympics are mandatory as well because you get 0 points if you dont play? :confused:

Aenea
11-11-2011, 10:44 AM
What kind of logic is that? So Olympics are mandatory as well because you get 0 points if you dont play? :confused:

ATP logic. Those are the rules for top players :shrug:
You don't get a zero pointer if you don't play Olympics :confused: Who said that?

zero pointer =/= zero points

Kat_YYZ
11-11-2011, 10:53 AM
I know.. but they are still 9 of 14 biggest tournaments in the season.. and you will get this amount of money for playing them if you are World number 1. Just no sence

Actually, in the 500 and 250 tournaments the big names are usually paid appearance fees just for coming. The appearance fees are often more than what they could earn even by winning. However, the 1000 series tournaments are prohibited from giving appearance fees. So this is like a loophole to give a bonus where it would otherwise not be allowed. Wall Street does it all the time :p

bjurra
11-11-2011, 10:53 AM
ATP logic. Those are the rules for top players :shrug:
You don't get a zero pointer if you don't play Olympics :confused: Who said that?

zero pointer =/= zero points

Zero points equals zero points. Even in the ATP world.

timafi
11-11-2011, 11:01 AM
the Paris organizers are a bunch of idiots.Had they given Novak another half a million he would have been running all over the court like a damn rat.Then again he does need the $$$$$$$$$$ to go shopping for xmas at Harrods:tape:

doomsday
11-11-2011, 11:05 AM
He wasn't going to beat Tsonga anyway.

BodyServe
11-11-2011, 11:05 AM
That's where a LL rule should be implemented but tennis is a very archaic sport so i don't expect it to happen.

Asadinator
11-11-2011, 11:08 AM
Disgraceful stuff from Djokovic, especially when he's #1.

Chris Kuerten
11-11-2011, 11:14 AM
Troicki :facepalm:

Mae
11-11-2011, 11:17 AM
Maybe after playing and winning so much he is just tired at the end of the season :shrug: And if you remember Nole has had a history of being ill and hurt a lot in the past. I though he had gotten over that.

bjurra
11-11-2011, 11:18 AM
That's where a LL rule should be implemented but tennis is a very archaic sport so i don't expect it to happen.

We don't want to see Troicki.

Orka_n
11-11-2011, 11:21 AM
That's where a LL rule should be implemented but tennis is a very archaic sport so i don't expect it to happen.No. There are no guys who deserve a QF spot handed to them just like that. You lose, you're out.

bjurra
11-11-2011, 11:24 AM
I think Orka n and I are on the same page here...

Sham Kay
11-11-2011, 11:24 AM
If I had a penny for everytime Djokovic pulled out of a tournament, I would be a poor man. If I had a penny for everytime someone complained about it, I'd have a Swiss bank account.

yuri27
11-11-2011, 11:28 AM
He wasn't going to beat Tsonga anyway.

On this slow surface?? i have my doubts.

Sham Kay
11-11-2011, 11:36 AM
He tried to lose at first but he then saw how shit Viktor was and decided Viktor wasn't worthy of a QF place.
Yessir. Tsonga broke as much sweat today as he would have done had Troicki made the QF. In fact I commend Noles effort today comparatively.

Certinfy
11-11-2011, 11:39 AM
Looks like it's going to be another final for Jo in Paris :D

Saberq
11-11-2011, 11:40 AM
Better than to retire mid match...anyway I hope Fed wins Paris for the 1st time......

simplet
11-11-2011, 11:46 AM
Better than to retire mid match...anyway I hope Fed wins Paris for the 1st time......

Except maybe for those guys who paid full price for a night session pass eh? They do get to see Isner vs Ferrer though, they're going to have their money's worth with these two charisma titans.

asmazif
11-11-2011, 11:46 AM
And there goes the SF streak. So I guess now Nole has no major streak left? (besides GS)

Don't forget about the almighty QF streak!

;)

good move nole

take it all jo :D

Sonja1989
11-11-2011, 11:48 AM
Disgusting.. he should have withdrew before the tournament or really play if he wish. It was the worst possibility. Fucked up against someone, sorry but I'm really pissed now due to that LL place what someone missed because of Djoko's undecidability.

Anyway, I'm really hope he will be perfect for London. Get well soon Novak!! :hug: :hug:

GSMnadal
11-11-2011, 11:50 AM
Disgusting way to keep your win/loss record high and an awful role model for young tennis players.

If you're injured, and I'm tending to believe Novak this time, you shouldn't play. Okay, due to the bonus he would've been an idiot not to participate. So a 60% fit Djokovic still knew he would beat mugs like Troicki, so he played. But when he has to play a tough opponent to whom he might lose, he forfeits. Really, is that what you want the kids to learn? If you fear you might lose to just throw in the towel because otherwise your precious stats won't be as impressive? Pathetic.

And I don't buy that his injury has worsened in the past couple of days. If you're going to play through your injury woes, at least man up and fight until someone is able to beat you fair and square. He would've gained so much more respect that way, despite having an extra loss, than with a cheap trick like this.

Nole fan
11-11-2011, 11:52 AM
Disgraceful stuff from Djokovic, especially when he's #1.

Really? why? because he didn't play to not risk further injury? better that than retire against Clownga, no? Man, stupidness in this forum is reaching new heights. :facepalm:

Sham Kay
11-11-2011, 11:53 AM
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01339/CEN_DjokovicNote_0_1339854a.jpg

Saberq
11-11-2011, 11:56 AM
Disgusting way to keep your win/loss record high and an awful role model for young tennis players.

If you're injured, and I'm tending to believe Novak this time, you shouldn't play. Okay, due to the bonus he would've been an idiot not to participate. So a 60% fit Djokovic still knew he would beat mugs like Troicki, so he played. But when he has to play a tough opponent to whom he might lose, he forfeits. Really, is that what you want the kids to learn? If you fear you might lose to just throw in the towel because otherwise your precious stats won't be as impressive? Pathetic.

And I don't buy that his injury has worsened in the past couple of days. If you're going to play through your injury woes, at least man up and fight until someone is able to beat you fair and square. He would've gained so much more respect that way, despite having an extra loss, than with a cheap trick like this.

it still counts as a loss fangirl

ZaZoo)
11-11-2011, 11:58 AM
Nole tried to tank to Troicki, not surprising. :shrug:

Luinir
11-11-2011, 11:58 AM
Disgusting way to keep your win/loss record high and an awful role model for young tennis players.

If you're injured, and I'm tending to believe Novak this time, you shouldn't play. Okay, due to the bonus he would've been an idiot not to participate. So a 60% fit Djokovic still knew he would beat mugs like Troicki, so he played. But when he has to play a tough opponent to whom he might lose, he forfeits. Really, is that what you want the kids to learn? If you fear you might lose to just throw in the towel because otherwise your precious stats won't be as impressive? Pathetic.

And I don't buy that his injury has worsened in the past couple of days. If you're going to play through your injury woes, at least man up and fight until someone is able to beat you fair and square. He would've gained so much more respect that way, despite having an extra loss, than with a cheap trick like this.

This.

Nole fan
11-11-2011, 12:00 PM
Disgusting way to keep your win/loss record high and an awful role model for young tennis players.

If you're injured, and I'm tending to believe Novak this time, you shouldn't play. Okay, due to the bonus he would've been an idiot not to participate. So a 60% fit Djokovic still knew he would beat mugs like Troicki, so he played. But when he has to play a tough opponent to whom he might lose, he forfeits. Really, is that what you want the kids to learn? If you fear you might lose to just throw in the towel because otherwise your precious stats won't be as impressive? Pathetic.

And I don't buy that his injury has worsened in the past couple of days. If you're going to play through your injury woes, at least man up and fight until someone is able to beat you fair and square. He would've gained so much more respect that way, despite having an extra loss, than with a cheap trick like this.

Oh god. :facepalm:

Novak can never win with you lot, can't he? Damn him is he plays, damn him is he doesn't. Damn him if he retires, damn him if he withdraws. Make up your fucking mind people! :rolleyes:

Luinir
11-11-2011, 12:01 PM
Oh god. :facepalm:

Novak can never win with you lot, can't he? Damn him is he plays, damn him is he doesn't. Damn him if he retires, damn him if he withdraws. Make up your fucking mind people! :rolleyes:

He is making another point there but you don't want to take it probably.

ZaZoo)
11-11-2011, 12:01 PM
Disgusting way to keep your win/loss record high and an awful role model for young tennis players.

If you're injured, and I'm tending to believe Novak this time, you shouldn't play. Okay, due to the bonus he would've been an idiot not to participate. So a 60% fit Djokovic still knew he would beat mugs like Troicki, so he played. But when he has to play a tough opponent to whom he might lose, he forfeits. Really, is that what you want the kids to learn? If you fear you might lose to just throw in the towel because otherwise your precious stats won't be as impressive? Pathetic.

And I don't buy that his injury has worsened in the past couple of days. If you're going to play through your injury woes, at least man up and fight until someone is able to beat you fair and square. He would've gained so much more respect that way, despite having an extra loss, than with a cheap trick like this.

Then why was Rafito playing RG 2009 and USO 2009 if he was hurting? No, he went deep and then when he got beat he started making excuses about his knee hurting him, why did he participate? Is that what he want kids to learn?

See what I did there? Stop hating and respect those athletes. :wavey:

Time Violation
11-11-2011, 12:02 PM
Really, is that what you want the kids to learn?

Lol, this all is just a game, an entertainment. Let's not pretend these guys are saving lives or saving the planet, because they sure are not. :)

http://othersideofscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/think_of_the_children.jpg

Sri
11-11-2011, 12:02 PM
Oh god. :facepalm:

Novak can never win with you lot, can't he? Damn him is he plays, damn him is he doesn't. Damn him if he retires, damn him if he withdraws. Make up your fucking mind people! :rolleyes:
He'd be respected more if he didn't have a history of retiring to avoid beat downs.

pesto
11-11-2011, 12:04 PM
How does it work wrt points for Jo, if he loses in the semis.

Does he get semi-final points, despite not hitting a ball in the quarter-final?

Luinir
11-11-2011, 12:05 PM
Then why was Rafito playing RG 2009 and USO 2009 if he was hurting? No, he went deep and then when he got beat he started making excuses about his knee hurting him, why did he participate? Is that what he want kids to learn?

See what I did there? Stop hating and respect those athletes. :wavey:

At least Rafa didn't retired at the middle of the tournament. Hopefully this fact helps to you. :wavey:

Luinir
11-11-2011, 12:06 PM
How does it work wrt points for Jo, if he loses in the semis.

Does he get semi-final points, despite not hitting a ball in the quarter-final?

Yes, he gets.

ZaZoo)
11-11-2011, 12:06 PM
At least Rafa didn't retired at the middle of the tournament. Hopefully this fact helps to you. :wavey:

Yes, because Nole actually have an injury.

GSMnadal
11-11-2011, 12:07 PM
Oh god. :facepalm:

Novak can never win with you lot, can't he? Damn him is he plays, damn him is he doesn't. Damn him if he retires, damn him if he withdraws. Make up your fucking mind people! :rolleyes:

Why damn him if he plays? I think everyone would've done that if there's just a free cheque of one million waiting with your name on it. But if you decide to play through your injuries, which he did and did pretty well, at least go all the way and complete the tournament until you're defeated.

If he just did it for the money, he could've given up after his first match, but he didn't do that. He knew he could beat his lapdog as well so he stuck around. Which meant he could obviously play just fine with his injury, and that he only withdrew because he was afraid of losing to Tsonga.

delboy
11-11-2011, 12:09 PM
lol Troicki

GSMnadal
11-11-2011, 12:09 PM
Lol, this all is just a game, an entertainment. Let's not pretend these guys are saving lives or saving the planet, because they sure are not. :)

http://othersideofscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/think_of_the_children.jpg

Still, they're rolemodels and young future pro's are copying their favourites thinking it's ok to pull stuff like this.

Sham Kay
11-11-2011, 12:09 PM
Walkover wins count as regular wins. Of course he'll get the full points. But it makes me wonder why W/O's go missing in the records in terms of the yearly win/loss record.

It might be lucky/unlucky but it's a match that was supposed to happen, and considering everyone gives a massive toss about win/loss records and other historical records, it's odd that a match confirmed to have ended and a winner decided (regardless of whether they stepped out on court) isn't recorded properly.

doomsday
11-11-2011, 12:12 PM
On this slow surface?? i have my doubts.

With this form i think he was well aware of his chances.

Kat_YYZ
11-11-2011, 12:14 PM
Why damn him if he plays? I think everyone would've done that if there's just a free cheque of one million waiting with your name on it. But if you decide to play through your injuries, which he did and did pretty well, at least go all the way and complete the tournament until you're defeated.

If he just did it for the money, he could've given up after his first match, but he didn't do that. He knew he could beat his lapdog as well so he stuck around. Which meant he could obviously play just fine with his injury, and that he only withdrew because he was afraid of losing to Tsonga.
maybe he really tried to give it to Viktor, but there is only so much you can do on court, in front of all those witnesses, before you will be fined for not giving your best effort/fixing by the ATP and have that very ugly mark on your record. :shrug: Not his fault Vik is hopeless :p

rhinooooo
11-11-2011, 12:15 PM
Usually I'd complain about him wasting a spot playing injured. But Nole did his job - he beat VIktor. Good on ya son. Rest up Serbia's rose... we love you

MuzzahLovah
11-11-2011, 12:16 PM
Ouch Troicki. First the DC slap and now this. I guess Djoko was right though, even at 50% he's still better than healthy Troicki. But damn- dick move.

Voo de Mar
11-11-2011, 12:17 PM
Expected :( I think Djokovic would play today if Seppi defeated Tsonga.

Forehander
11-11-2011, 12:17 PM
lol part of his symptom must be Anthrax :lol:

Nole fan
11-11-2011, 12:18 PM
At least Rafa didn't retired at the middle of the tournament. Hopefully this fact helps to you. :wavey:

I never thought I'd see the day when rafatards would get mugger than fedtards. :facepalm:

pesto
11-11-2011, 12:20 PM
Thanks for confirming Tsonga's points. I thought that was the case, but wasn't 100% certain.

I just looked up Fed's W-L record against Blake (the only player he's given a W/O, I think?), and ATP have it at 10-1, and the 1 is a regular victory for Blake. They list the W/O, but don't count it in the H2H stats. It's all a bit ambiguous to me.

Voo de Mar
11-11-2011, 12:21 PM
BTW, Troicki is amazing losing 10 of the last 12 games with indifferent D'Joke who barely tries :inlove:

Wolbo
11-11-2011, 12:24 PM
This is as pathetic as it was expected. He may be the no.1 but he's not a champion.

Luinir
11-11-2011, 12:24 PM
I never thought I'd see the day when rafatards would get mugger than fedtards. :facepalm:

Last time Rafa gave W/O was 2004 Estoril. Djokovic doing "W/O" and "retire" from left and right. So, for sure i will bitch about it as Rafa fan. Fed fans will too.

arm
11-11-2011, 12:25 PM
You guys don't get it :lol: he played on wednesday and th tuesday because he knew I was there and that it would have been very disappointing not to see him. But today I fly home, he is off duty.

Seriously, her tried to tank so hard yesterday. :rolls:

Nole fan
11-11-2011, 12:25 PM
Walkover wins count as regular wins. Of course he'll get the full points. But it makes me wonder why W/O's go missing in the records in terms of the yearly win/loss record.

It might be lucky/unlucky but it's a match that was supposed to happen, and considering everyone gives a massive toss about win/loss records and other historical records, it's odd that a match confirmed to have ended and a winner decided (regardless of whether they stepped out on court) isn't recorded properly.

Walkovers are neither official wins nor official losses.
A withdrawal does not count as a loss, or a victory for the other player. It becomes like a bye. If he had retired on the other hand after the match already started, then that would have affected the win/loss records.

Nole fan
11-11-2011, 12:27 PM
This is as pathetic as it was expected. He may be the no.1 but he's not a champion.

Oh really? explain that logic to me smartass. :lol:

Luinir
11-11-2011, 12:28 PM
Plus, Rafa's only questionably retiring was against Murray at AO 2010. Other than that, when he retired he was really in bad sitaution. (like in 2008 Paris against Davy, he lost the first set 1-6, retired and didn't played WTF then) Or his retirement against Guccione in 2007. It was 5-6 in the first set, i think. Plus, in 2006 or 2007 he retired against Lleyton at Queen's when it was one-set all. Federer never did it as we know. (just gave a W/O to Blake in Paris) But Djokovic was doing this thing even in slams until this year. When he knows he cannot win, he is not even trying. Go on and lose like a real men at least. That's what i am talking about. It's not like that he did it for a time or two times, it's a lot...

GSMnadal
11-11-2011, 12:32 PM
Then why was Rafito playing RG 2009 and USO 2009 if he was hurting? No, he went deep and then when he got beat he started making excuses about his knee hurting him, why did he participate? Is that what he want kids to learn?

See what I did there? Stop hating and respect those athletes. :wavey:

RG 09, USO 09, AO 11, Rafa showed that he's not willing to give in, and even if you're injured, that the opponent still has to give everything in order to beat him. That you must go down fighting, even when wounded, not giving up until the final point has been lost. Great example to kids and I think Djokovic can still learn a thing or two from that as well.

He didn't make up excuses, he just stated the facts that he wasn't a 100% fit. He never said that those were the only reasons he lost.

pesto
11-11-2011, 12:32 PM
How many times has he retired or given W/O in his career? How does that compare with, say, Nads or Murray who are similar age?

We all know that Fed has an outstanding record in this respect, but how does Djoko compare to other players?

Nole fan
11-11-2011, 12:34 PM
Plus, Rafa's only questionably retiring was against Murray at AO 2010. Other than that, when he retired he was really in bad sitaution. (like in 2008 Paris against Davy, he lost the first set 1-6, retired and didn't played WTF then) Or his retirement against Guccione in 2007. It was 5-6 in the first set, i think. Plus, in 2006 or 2007 he retired against Lleyton at Queen's when it was one-set all. Federer never did it as we know. (just gave a W/O to Blake in Paris) But Djokovic was doing this thing even in slams until this year. When he knows he cannot win, he is not even trying. Go on and lose like a real men at least. That's what i am talking about. It's not like that he did it for a time or two times, it's a lot...

I thought he went and lost like a real man against Nikhishori. :confused:

Luinir
11-11-2011, 12:35 PM
So he could do the same in here.

abraxas21
11-11-2011, 12:37 PM
Too good this Tsonga.

Won the psychological war with his terrifying trash talking last night, he really is Mohammed Ali.

:lol:

GSMnadal
11-11-2011, 12:37 PM
I fully understand he doesn't want to risk further injury, but then again, why oh why did he play against Trocki and not against Tsonga? It just doesn't add up unless it's gotten a lot worse in that one match, which is highly doubtful

Luinir
11-11-2011, 12:38 PM
RG 09, USO 09, AO 11, Rafa showed that he's not willing to give in, and even if you're injured, that the opponent still has to give everything in order to beat him. That you must go down fighting, even when wounded, not giving up until the final point has been lost. Great example to kids and I think Djokovic can still learn a thing or two from that as well.

He didn't make up excuses, he just stated the facts that he wasn't a 100% fit. He never said that those were the only reasons he lost.

Yes. He said that "Ferrer played great match, all credit to him etc." multiple times in the press conference after the match. Plus when it's asked to him about that DelPo match (USO 2009) he said "i think probably he would beat me even i wouldn't be injured, he was playing great tennis".

Time Violation
11-11-2011, 12:39 PM
Still, they're rolemodels and young future pro's are copying their favourites thinking it's ok to pull stuff like this.

Well, if they can copy winning 3 slams and 5 masters in a year, while losing only handful of matches and beating world #1 to a pulp in the process, I think those young future pros are going to be just fine :lol:

e476
11-11-2011, 12:40 PM
It was a wise strategic decision for Djokovic to play in Paris and then withdraw. Who in their right mind would throw away $1.6 million in bonus prize money if they just played one more match in Paris M1000? Of course, he wasn't going to win the tourney because of his injury, so might as well withdraw before Tsonga gives him a brutal workout.

Luinir
11-11-2011, 12:40 PM
Well, if they can copy winning 3 slams and 5 masters in a year, while losing only handful of matches and beating world #1 to a pulp in the process, I think those young future pros are going to be just fine :lol:

No, they are going to be annoying like Nole then.

NikolaBGD
11-11-2011, 12:42 PM
RG 09, USO 09, AO 11, Rafa showed that he's not willing to give in, and even if you're injured, that the opponent still has to give everything in order to beat him. That you must go down fighting, even when wounded, not giving up until the final point has been lost. Great example to kids and I think Djokovic can still learn a thing or two from that as well.

He didn't make up excuses, he just stated the facts that he wasn't a 100% fit. He never said that those were the only reasons he lost.

Most deluded poster here:worship:

Let me ask you something, where is your Rafa on this tournament, what is his injury?! He dont plays in Paris because he dont like that tournament...

Another day with haters in full forse... when Novak wins, opponents are pathetic, when he lose, it's a begining of the end, fluke streak, when he quits, he is a faker, when he stands on a court and eat baggel, he is a faker, when he pull out from the tournament, he is a faker...

Get a life, I am really worry for some people here, god knows what are their problems:(

GSMnadal
11-11-2011, 12:43 PM
Well, if they can copy winning 3 slams and 5 masters in a year, while losing only handful of matches and beating world #1 to a pulp in the process, I think those young future pros are going to be just fine :lol:

Curious to see if you'd still be fine with it if they all just give up before the match when they see that they're not the favourite for the match. Imagine you've bought expensive tickets, some even with flight tickets/hotel costs, to see your favourite in action, and he just decides he doesn't want to play because he might lose.

Luinir
11-11-2011, 12:44 PM
Most deluded posters here:worship:

Let me ask you something, where is your Rafa on this tournament, what is his injury?! He dont plays in Paris because he dont like that tournament...

Another day with haters in full forse... when Novak wins, opponents are pathetic, when he lose, it's a begining of the end, fluke streak, when he quits, he is a faker, when he stands on a court and eat baggel, he is a faker, when he pull out from the tournament, he is a faker...

Geat a life, I am really worry for some people here, god knows what are their problems:(

Be sure that if Rafa would be here, he wouldn't quit after two matches. You are mostly right about bolded part, though.

GSMnadal
11-11-2011, 12:47 PM
Most deluded poster here:worship:

Let me ask you something, where is your Rafa on this tournament, what is his injury?! He dont plays in Paris because he dont like that tournament...

Another day with haters in full forse... when Novak wins, opponents are pathetic, when he lose, it's a begining of the end, fluke streak, when he quits, he is a faker, when he stands on a court and eat baggel, he is a faker, when he pull out from the tournament, he is a faker...

Geat a life, I am really worry for some people here, god knows what are their problems:(

Well, looks like we can only come to one conclusion from this...

Not participating in a tournament is a whole different thing than withdrawing, just so you know.

sicko
11-11-2011, 12:50 PM
Nole too went down fighting hard against the Japanese SuperMario.

Kat_YYZ
11-11-2011, 12:50 PM
I fully understand he doesn't want to risk further injury, but then again, why oh why did he play against Trocki and not against Tsonga? It just doesn't add up unless it's gotten a lot worse in that one match, which is highly doubtful

you are just saying all this because you don't even believe he is injured. Hindsight is 20/20 but when you're in the middle of a situation, it's not that easy to know what the right thing to do is.

If you felt fine in practice and then the next day the pain starts 15 minutes into the match, and you're like "what the fuck?" and "how I am supposed to last to the end (even to take a loss 'like a man') if it's this bad in only 15 minutes?" Or you feel fine one day and go to bed and wake up the next day in agony, and all you did was sleep. Anyone who's had an injury (doesn't have to be an athlete) or an illness knows what it's like to make a miscalculation. "Oh I'm not that bad, I can go to work today" and then by the time you get there you are so badly off, you just stay for 1 hour and go back home (and everyone wonders why you even came in the first place if you're so sick/hurt... but that's not how it felt to you when you made the decision).

NikolaBGD
11-11-2011, 12:51 PM
Be sure that if Rafa would be here, he wouldn't quit after two matches. You are mostly right about bolded part, though.

Nobody here knows real condition of his shoulder, we can only guessing that... I had similar injury, it's so unpredictable when it strikes you that you can't play, and when it's not that serious...real cure is to rest several monthts, but Novak chasing best season ever, he try everything, but sometimes shoulder is danger obstacle... it was in Cincy, now it is...

Rafa maybe wouldn't quit, but he would standing on the court and waits inevitable, like against Murray or Youzhny...like Novak against Nishikori...

You want another match like that today in Paris?! I preffer not...

sicko
11-11-2011, 12:52 PM
Well, looks like we can only come to one conclusion from this...

Not participating in a tournament is a whole different thing than withdrawing, just so you know.

If it wasn't for the $$$$$$$ Nole wouldn't have participated. end of.

AllezUSA
11-11-2011, 12:54 PM
What a punk move by Nole. Tsonga was injured the last time
they played and still gave him a clean win, he couldve had the
cajones to do the same.

GSMnadal
11-11-2011, 12:56 PM
What a punk move by Nole. Tsonga was injured the last time
they played and still gave him a clean win, he couldve had the
cajones to do the same.

Ehm, Tsonga retired the last time, not exactly a clean win. But he at least showed up.

NikolaBGD
11-11-2011, 12:57 PM
This story about $$$$ is another nonsense...

He earns milions of dollars each month, from sponsors, smaller tournaments just to show up...

Till now he was ordinary faker, now he is greedy faker :D

Luinir
11-11-2011, 01:00 PM
He's one annoying greedy faker actually. :p

NikolaBGD
11-11-2011, 01:01 PM
What a punk move by Nole. Tsonga was injured the last time
they played and still gave him a clean win, he couldve had the
cajones to do the same.

What a clean win?!

He retired on 3-0 in second set... :o

He couldn't waits just 3 more games like Novak against Kei...he could, but didn't want that...

What a hippocrates you are:eek::worship:

sicko
11-11-2011, 01:01 PM
This story about $$$$ is another nonsense...

He earns milions of dollars each month, from sponsors, smaller tournaments just to show up...

Till now he was ordinary faker, now he is greedy faker :D

don't be delusional. the $$$ played their part. it's nothing to be ashamed of.

NikolaBGD
11-11-2011, 01:05 PM
don't be delusional. the $$$ played their part. it's nothing to be ashamed of.

Maybe smaller part... but he wanted to try to win 6th Masters this year...that is mainly reason...when he saw that it can't be possible, he pulled out...

Not a big deal, Tsonga now have a open door to the finals.

Trash talks before the match... just wait another GS match Ali, you'll see that aura:wavey:

Guga_fan
11-11-2011, 01:08 PM
Strange hate in this thread. Anyway, Djokovic made the right choice, should've done the same at Cincinnati.

Spain07
11-11-2011, 01:11 PM
Strange hate in this thread. Anyway, Djokovic made the right choice, should've done the same at Cincinnati.

This.

incognito
11-11-2011, 01:13 PM
So he could do the same in here.
Yeah, especially since his performance in the 3rd set against Nishikori was so well received by the media, what a great idea :)
Unless he spilled his guts against Tsonga, he would have been criticized...

That's not to say, though, that Tsonga would have won 100%. Tsonga has been lackluster as of late and this is after all a better surface for Djokovic than Basel where he almost reached the final in this condition.

zlaja777
11-11-2011, 01:20 PM
What a punk move by Nole. Tsonga was injured the last time
they played and still gave him a clean win, he couldve had the
cajones to do the same.

:timebomb:

Rodre Fegassi
11-11-2011, 01:21 PM
Holy cow.

Djokovic's injuries better not mean he can never get back to Djoker 2.0 or we will just go back to seeing Nadal mopping up every Grand Slam he enters.

tennizen
11-11-2011, 01:22 PM
http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/lgo/lowres/lgon19l.jpg

zlaja777
11-11-2011, 01:23 PM
Plus, Rafa's only questionably retiring was against Murray at AO 2010. Other than that, when he retired he was really in bad sitaution. (like in 2008 Paris against Davy, he lost the first set 1-6, retired and didn't played WTF then) Or his retirement against Guccione in 2007. It was 5-6 in the first set, i think. Plus, in 2006 or 2007 he retired against Lleyton at Queen's when it was one-set all. Federer never did it as we know. (just gave a W/O to Blake in Paris) But Djokovic was doing this thing even in slams until this year. When he knows he cannot win, he is not even trying. Go on and lose like a real men at least. That's what i am talking about. It's not like that he did it for a time or two times, it's a lot...

Grow up, kid.

Time Violation
11-11-2011, 01:28 PM
Curious to see if you'd still be fine with it if they all just give up before the match when they see that they're not the favourite for the match. Imagine you've bought expensive tickets, some even with flight tickets/hotel costs, to see your favourite in action, and he just decides he doesn't want to play because he might lose.

Lol, was Novak the favorite at the clay tournaments this year? Was he the favorite at Wimbledon? Did he give up? Or did he routine certain player(s)? ;)

Btw, if I had money for the expensive tickets + flight tickets + hotel costs, I sure wouldn't be spending my time on the MTF :D

Luinir
11-11-2011, 01:30 PM
Grow up, kid.

Make your statement, not these childish things.

Ben.
11-11-2011, 01:30 PM
If his shoulder is as bad as we are lead to believe then he should never have played here. His statement after Basel was pretty outrageous, something about it being agonising to serve all week but he hoped he would recover for Paris..... in two days time! Something doesn't add up there. An injury of convenience. If this was Seppi, he plays, we all know it.

Vida
11-11-2011, 01:33 PM
get well soon nole :hug:

zlaja777
11-11-2011, 01:44 PM
Make your statement, not these childish things.

Arguing with you would be a complete and fundamental waste fo time. There.

tennizen
11-11-2011, 01:45 PM
Plus, Rafa's only questionably retiring was against Murray at AO 2010. Other than that, when he retired he was really in bad sitaution. (like in 2008 Paris against Davy, he lost the first set 1-6, retired and didn't played WTF then) Or his retirement against Guccione in 2007. It was 5-6 in the first set, i think. Plus, in 2006 or 2007 he retired against Lleyton at Queen's when it was one-set all. Federer never did it as we know. (just gave a W/O to Blake in Paris) But Djokovic was doing this thing even in slams until this year. When he knows he cannot win, he is not even trying. Go on and lose like a real men at least. That's what i am talking about. It's not like that he did it for a time or two times, it's a lot...

That depends a lot on who is questioning.

ZaZoo)
11-11-2011, 01:48 PM
you must go down fighting, even when wounded

No you don't, that's really stupid thinking.

nole_no1
11-11-2011, 01:53 PM
Good decision

Get well untill WTF Nole

Luinir
11-11-2011, 01:56 PM
Arguing with you would be a complete and fundamental waste fo time. There.

Don't make those unnnecessary posts then.

Aenea
11-11-2011, 01:56 PM
No you don't, that's really stupid thinking.
yes, I agree, no one benefits from that - fans get to see an injured player suffering on court, the player himself risking a lot of worsening his injury etc but in this case I agree with the quote below. If Nole had a genuine injury he shouldn't have played Bercy in the first place.

If his shoulder is as bad as we are lead to believe then he should never have played here. His statement after Basel was pretty outrageous, something about it being agonising to serve all week but he hoped he would recover for Paris..... in two days time! Something doesn't add up there. An injury of convenience. If this was Seppi, he plays, we all know it.

misty1
11-11-2011, 01:56 PM
never even should have been here

nole_no1
11-11-2011, 01:59 PM
lol and WTF is wrong with some of you?

"He is injured but he should've showed up"? Are you fucking kidding me?
Show up for what? to be double bagled without being even able to run for the ball so you are pleased?
He walkover and now you're "he should've showed up"... if he would've showed up but then retiring after few games you would've said "hah of course Djokovic retires when losing"
Let the hate away and stop thinking ffs

Corey Feldman
11-11-2011, 02:01 PM
As long as he's alright for London Cup

:hug: McNoleo, he should never have tried to be the hero in D C v Del Pot, ever since then he's paid for it and could easily missed Basel

rocketassist
11-11-2011, 02:05 PM
Wi$e move by Nol£?

get well soon nole :hug:

I love how this is all you have to say on the subject :haha:

Sombrerero loco
11-11-2011, 02:07 PM
he should have skipped this event

incognito
11-11-2011, 02:09 PM
If his shoulder is as bad as we are lead to believe then he should never have played here. His statement after Basel was pretty outrageous, something about it being agonising to serve all week but he hoped he would recover for Paris..... in two days time! Something doesn't add up there. An injury of convenience. If this was Seppi, he plays, we all know it.
Seppi probably could have beaten him, if Djokovic played like in the first two sets against Troicki. Tsonga OTOH probably wouldn't have beaten him if he played like in the third set against Troicki. So it's pure speculation, Tsonga in his current form isn't an insurmountable obstacle even for an injured Novak, I think that Baghdatis in Basel was a tougher task...

As for his injury, the only thing that doesn't add upp is your knowledge of the issue. You obviously don't know the nature of the injury...

Dini
11-11-2011, 02:15 PM
You guys don't get it :lol: he played on wednesday and th tuesday because he knew I was there and that it would have been very disappointing not to see him. But today I fly home, he is off duty.

Seriously, her tried to tank so hard yesterday. :rolls:

That is too cute for words. :lol:

v-money
11-11-2011, 02:19 PM
Good decision to get Troicki out of this tournament and then retire. Kill two birds with one stone.

He'll surely play WTF.

atennisfan
11-11-2011, 02:21 PM
He tried so hard to tank for Viktor's sake :sad:

Troicki did look too happy for someone who had just lost a match.
I guess taking a set from his master was beyond orgasmic for him.

Vida
11-11-2011, 02:28 PM
troicki match was much like monfils match at cincinnati, in respect to tanking attempt that failed.

Sofonda Cox
11-11-2011, 02:28 PM
Will the ATP ever fine this pathetic excuse for a tennis player?

Filo V.
11-11-2011, 02:32 PM
1) His hunger for millions cost him his health here.

2) His new style of play was always and will continue to lead to injuries.

3) Hopefully he's alright for London, but he can't be classified as the favorite.

abraxas21
11-11-2011, 02:35 PM
troicki should be permabanned from competitive tennis

Naudio Spanlatine
11-11-2011, 02:41 PM
Jo:devil: :devil: :devil:

nole, rest up for WTF:hug: :hug: :hug:

martinatreue
11-11-2011, 02:41 PM
I am thinking that his shoulder was not that sore at the beginning of the tournament but is now hurting worse. Wise decision to withdraw especially after this Punk Tsonga had the "cojones" to trash talk him when he knows that Nole is injured. Wow, how brave to trash talk a guy when you know he is at 50%. :rolleyes:

atennisfan
11-11-2011, 02:43 PM
Jeez, what a dick. Don't play the tournament to begin with if you're genuinely injured.

Typical Nole.


The difference is USD 1.6 millions.

But it is quite embarrassing for the world's #1 to keep tanking, wo and injured

incognito
11-11-2011, 02:51 PM
1) His hunger for millions cost him his health here.

2) His new style of play was always and will continue to lead to injuries.

3) Hopefully he's alright for London, but he can't be classified as the favorite.
He badly needed some match-practice going into WTF, especially given how little he's played since the USO. He knows best whether he's playing within the limitations of his injury and I trust that he wouldn't do anything too risky in that regard. He will have some time to rest his shoulder, a week's rest was enough prior to the USO and hopefully it will be enough here for the WTF as well.

Filo V.
11-11-2011, 02:55 PM
I agree he needed match-practice before WTF, it's smart of him to tank these matches and withdraw with his injury worsening, but at the same time, if you're not 100% and can't really put in a performance then you shouldn't play. Even taking risk limitations, there is a major risk involved. With that said, as long as he's ready for WTF, then these matches will have be beneficial in knocking off some of the rust.

Rafa = Fed Killa
11-11-2011, 02:56 PM
Intellegent withdrawal

Get some practive against low level players while at 10%

For someone like Tsonga, Nole would need to be around 50% which he wasn't so why risk further injury.

To win Paris, Nole would need to be around 70% which he isn't close to.

Never give hope to the weak by facing them when injured. A mistake Nadal made a few times and Nole made in Basel.

MIMIC
11-11-2011, 03:05 PM
Haha, that's right Nole. Keep them haters mad! :yeah: After snatching titles from their favs left and right, you've earned their venom :cool:

Hian-GOAT
11-11-2011, 03:13 PM
Tipsarevic fans complaining about this justified retirement of Nole :sobbing: MTF at his peak :hysteric:

swebright
11-11-2011, 03:21 PM
As expected. I am not surprised that he would do that for 1.6 millions.

I don't think he cares for year-end event. He should have just quit playing all tournaments and rest up for the rest of the season since USO.

zeleni
11-11-2011, 03:23 PM
Lets see what happened in last few months.

Giocovich gets injured.

If he retires (Cincinnati), he is disgrace.
If he asks for medical time-out (New York), he is disgrace.
If he tanks (Basel), he is disgrace.
If he withdraws (Paris), he is disgrace.

Blind breed of haters (who cant compose coherent accusation) have been exposed.:cool:

Lopez
11-11-2011, 03:35 PM
1) His hunger for millions cost him his health here.

2) His new style of play was always and will continue to lead to injuries.

3) Hopefully he's alright for London, but he can't be classified as the favorite.

Yeah, running around like that he'll surely aggravate the shoulder big time :p

ballbasher101
11-11-2011, 03:36 PM
Money oh money you make the world go round. Djoker was handing the win to Troicki but he still managed to lose :haha:. I hate calling players mugs but Troicki deserves that label.

Mountaindewslave
11-11-2011, 03:37 PM
Jeez, what a dick. Don't play the tournament to begin with if you're genuinely injured.

Typical Nole.

agreed, it is rather pathetic. I do respect a player W/O ahead of a match rather than in the midst of one, but all the same it is rather insulting to Tsonga. Djokovic thought his supposedly 'injured' level was good enough to beat to other players but decides to opt out as soon as he is about to face a pretty good player who is likely to beat him? I doubt the extent of the injury, but even if it is as bad as Djokovic says, it definitely is not classy to just wait to time when you are going to W/O.

not cool at all. maybe next season he can have zero losses if he just W/O ahead of any match he expects to lose. Tsonga deserves better. W/O's like this, in the middle of a tournament should count as a loss, it's a shame

Saberq
11-11-2011, 03:41 PM
agreed, it is rather pathetic. I do respect a player W/O ahead of a match rather than in the midst of one, but all the same it is rather insulting to Tsonga. Djokovic thought his supposedly 'injured' level was good enough to beat to other players but decides to opt out as soon as he is about to face a pretty good player who is likely to beat him? I doubt the extent of the injury, but even if it is as bad as Djokovic says, it definitely is not classy to just wait to time when you are going to W/O.

not cool at all. maybe next season he can have zero losses if he just W/O ahead of any match he expects to lose. Tsonga deserves better. W/O's like this, in the middle of a tournament should count as a loss, it's a shame

Tsonga deserves shit from Novak...if this was Nadal you wouldn't be complaining huh?

Mountaindewslave
11-11-2011, 03:44 PM
Disgusting way to keep your win/loss record high and an awful role model for young tennis players.

If you're injured, and I'm tending to believe Novak this time, you shouldn't play. Okay, due to the bonus he would've been an idiot not to participate. So a 60% fit Djokovic still knew he would beat mugs like Troicki, so he played. But when he has to play a tough opponent to whom he might lose, he forfeits. Really, is that what you want the kids to learn? If you fear you might lose to just throw in the towel because otherwise your precious stats won't be as impressive? Pathetic.

And I don't buy that his injury has worsened in the past couple of days. If you're going to play through your injury woes, at least man up and fight until someone is able to beat you fair and square. He would've gained so much more respect that way, despite having an extra loss, than with a cheap trick like this.

this is 100% correct. beautifully said, it sets a horrible model for younger players, something a #1 should not do....

Egreen
11-11-2011, 03:44 PM
His new style of play was always and will continue to lead to injuries.


Ditto.

Mountaindewslave
11-11-2011, 03:47 PM
Tsonga deserves shit from Novak...if this was Nadal you wouldn't be complaining huh?

it's funny you Djokovic worshipper's repeatedly reply to me that "if it were Nadal you would not feel the same way?" and every time I reply that if and when Nadal does the same thing I do not respect it either. Nadal's retirement when loss was certain midway through the third set in Australia in 2010 was very very embarassing and unacceptable too.

but just because I don't respect some of Nadal's choices has nothing to do with Djokovic and does not make him playing when he knows he will win vs. W/O when he finally comes across a great player ok. it's just disrespectful to the game.

should not have played Paris at all, and is clowning around as a #1 with all of these back and forths with whether or not he is healthy enough to play..... flip flopping, whatever you want to call it.

Saberq
11-11-2011, 03:49 PM
it's funny you Djokovic worshipper's repeatedly reply to me that "if it were Nadal you would not feel the same way?" and every time I reply that if and when Nadal does the same thing I do not respect it either. Nadal's retirement when loss was certain midway through the third set in Australia in 2010 was very very embarassing and unacceptable too.

but just because I don't respect some of Nadal's choices has nothing to do with Djokovic and does not make him playing when he knows he will win vs. W/O when he finally comes across a great player ok. it's just disrespectful to the game.

should not have played Paris at all, and is clowning around as a #1 with all of these back and forths with whether or not he is healthy enough to play..... flip flopping, whatever you want to call it.

he shouldn't have played Paris I agree but if his shoulder is hurt why play against Tsonga what's the point?Lose 6-2 6-1?Give me a break ...time to rest for 10 days ....

Mountaindewslave
11-11-2011, 03:52 PM
he shouldn't have played Paris I agree but if his shoulder is hurt why play against Tsonga what's the point?Lose 6-2 6-1?Give me a break ...time to rest for 10 days ....

I mean I understand why he played the matches he did. Prize money and some free wins against mugs like Troicki who struggle to hit the ball onto the court.

BUT is that ok? playing just for money and to get some free wins? not really the best way to rep yourself as #1 player in the world huh

Vida
11-11-2011, 03:55 PM
I mean I understand why he played the matches he did. Prize money and some free wins against mugs like Troicki who struggle to hit the ball onto the court.

BUT is that ok? playing just for money and to get some free wins? not really the best way to rep yourself as #1 player in the world huh

whats wrong with it? blame the system.

Saberq
11-11-2011, 03:57 PM
I mean I understand why he played the matches he did. Prize money and some free wins against mugs like Troicki who struggle to hit the ball onto the court.

BUT is that ok? playing just for money and to get some free wins? not really the best way to rep yourself as #1 player in the world huh

honestly no it's not it was a stupid and greedy decision from him if that is indeed the case

tennisfan856
11-11-2011, 03:59 PM
this was the tournament that i was most looking forward to after last year's performances....and it has to be the biggest letdown all year. I hope london will redeem this.

Lopez
11-11-2011, 04:00 PM
Loving the new tard wars :worship:

Rafatards used to love Nole as well, wonder what's happened :scratch:

:p

Nole fan
11-11-2011, 04:01 PM
I fully understand he doesn't want to risk further injury, but then again, why oh why did he play against Trocki and not against Tsonga? It just doesn't add up unless it's gotten a lot worse in that one match, which is highly doubtful

Well if you believe him that's exactly what happened.

Novak Djokovic
Dear fans and friends, sadly i have to inform you that i have withdrawn from the further tournament. I have pushed myself to the limit by playing, and after the match yesterday my shoulder got worse. For this reason, i have to put my health first and withdraw even though my urges as a professional player are making me want to play until the last drop of energy.

Johnny Groove
11-11-2011, 04:02 PM
Disgusting way to keep your win/loss record high and an awful role model for young tennis players.

If you're injured, and I'm tending to believe Novak this time, you shouldn't play. Okay, due to the bonus he would've been an idiot not to participate. So a 60% fit Djokovic still knew he would beat mugs like Troicki, so he played. But when he has to play a tough opponent to whom he might lose, he forfeits. Really, is that what you want the kids to learn? If you fear you might lose to just throw in the towel because otherwise your precious stats won't be as impressive? Pathetic.

And I don't buy that his injury has worsened in the past couple of days. If you're going to play through your injury woes, at least man up and fight until someone is able to beat you fair and square. He would've gained so much more respect that way, despite having an extra loss, than with a cheap trick like this.

Exactly.

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01339/CEN_DjokovicNote_0_1339854a.jpg

:lol:

Then why was Rafito playing RG 2009 and USO 2009 if he was hurting? No, he went deep and then when he got beat he started making excuses about his knee hurting him, why did he participate? Is that what he want kids to learn?

See what I did there? Stop hating and respect those athletes. :wavey:

At least Nadal played through the match and took his losses at RG 2009 and USO 2009.

He'd be respected more if he didn't have a history of retiring to avoid beat downs.

Yup.

Why damn him if he plays? I think everyone would've done that if there's just a free cheque of one million waiting with your name on it. But if you decide to play through your injuries, which he did and did pretty well, at least go all the way and complete the tournament until you're defeated.

If he just did it for the money, he could've given up after his first match, but he didn't do that. He knew he could beat his lapdog as well so he stuck around. Which meant he could obviously play just fine with his injury, and that he only withdrew because he was afraid of losing to Tsonga.

If Seppi had won, I guarantee Djokovic would have played.

Walkover wins count as regular wins. Of course he'll get the full points. But it makes me wonder why W/O's go missing in the records in terms of the yearly win/loss record.

It might be lucky/unlucky but it's a match that was supposed to happen, and considering everyone gives a massive toss about win/loss records and other historical records, it's odd that a match confirmed to have ended and a winner decided (regardless of whether they stepped out on court) isn't recorded properly.

Yeah the ATP's W/O rules are really muggy.

RG 09, USO 09, AO 11, Rafa showed that he's not willing to give in, and even if you're injured, that the opponent still has to give everything in order to beat him. That you must go down fighting, even when wounded, not giving up until the final point has been lost. Great example to kids and I think Djokovic can still learn a thing or two from that as well.

He didn't make up excuses, he just stated the facts that he wasn't a 100% fit. He never said that those were the only reasons he lost.

Don't forget Rotterdam 09.

How many times has he retired or given W/O in his career? How does that compare with, say, Nads or Murray who are similar age?

We all know that Fed has an outstanding record in this respect, but how does Djoko compare to other players?

I made another thread on this :wavey:

I thought he went and lost like a real man against Nikhishori. :confused:

Yes he did.

This story about $$$$ is another nonsense...

He earns milions of dollars each month, from sponsors, smaller tournaments just to show up...

Till now he was ordinary faker, now he is greedy faker :D

:lol:

Johnny Groove
11-11-2011, 04:03 PM
Loving the new tard wars :worship:

Rafatards used to love Nole as well, wonder what's happened :scratch:

:p

Well before, Djokovic was beating Federer and helping Nadal get to #1 in the first place.

Now that Djokvoic is beating Nadal and the Djokotards are becoming unbearable, we Rafatards are now anti-Nole and more pro-Fed, at least I am :lol:

Nole fan
11-11-2011, 04:05 PM
you are just saying all this because you don't even believe he is injured. Hindsight is 20/20 but when you're in the middle of a situation, it's not that easy to know what the right thing to do is.

If you felt fine in practice and then the next day the pain starts 15 minutes into the match, and you're like "what the fuck?" and "how I am supposed to last to the end (even to take a loss 'like a man') if it's this bad in only 15 minutes?" Or you feel fine one day and go to bed and wake up the next day in agony, and all you did was sleep. Anyone who's had an injury (doesn't have to be an athlete) or an illness knows what it's like to make a miscalculation. "Oh I'm not that bad, I can go to work today" and then by the time you get there you are so badly off, you just stay for 1 hour and go back home (and everyone wonders why you even came in the first place if you're so sick/hurt... but that's not how it felt to you when you made the decision).

Finally someone who speaks common sense. Bravo. :bigclap:

Roadmap
11-11-2011, 04:06 PM
Djokovic has an opportunity for three retirements at the WTF.

Nole fan
11-11-2011, 04:11 PM
Don't make those unnnecessary posts then.

Because your posts are so necessary. :lol:

Nole fan
11-11-2011, 04:15 PM
As long as he's alright for London Cup

:hug: McNoleo, he should never have tried to be the hero in D C v Del Pot, ever since then he's paid for it and could easily missed Basel

Hey Mickey, you are beeing so nice lately with Nole, what's wrong with you? :p
Maybe you want him healthy to be spanked by Federer in WTF?

Nole fan
11-11-2011, 04:18 PM
He badly needed some match-practice going into WTF, especially given how little he's played since the USO. He knows best whether he's playing within the limitations of his injury and I trust that he wouldn't do anything too risky in that regard. He will have some time to rest his shoulder, a week's rest was enough prior to the USO and hopefully it will be enough here for the WTF as well.

Don't think these guys take the time to read what Nole says, they prefer to judge bollocks. :o

guga2120
11-11-2011, 04:18 PM
What is Nole even doing at these tournaments? Poor guy. Don't expect much of anything of him in London.

It looks like the swiss clown is going to finally win the Paris master series. Novak is injured, and Murray sucks.

Corey Feldman
11-11-2011, 04:19 PM
Hey Mickey, you are beeing so nice lately with Nole, what's wrong with you? :p
Maybe you want him healthy to be spanked by Federer in WTF?

No i want him to keep killing Nadal + i'm sucking up to you

Sapeod
11-11-2011, 04:21 PM
Expected. Can't handle the fact that he'll be defeated by Tsonga, so he withdraws :rolleyes:

Lopez
11-11-2011, 04:26 PM
Well before, Djokovic was beating Federer and helping Nadal get to #1 in the first place.

Now that Djokvoic is beating Nadal and the Djokotards are becoming unbearable, we Rafatards are now anti-Nole and more pro-Fed, at least I am :lol:

The question was rhetorical ;). I think it's obvious :p

Foxy
11-11-2011, 04:31 PM
Djokovic has an opportunity for three retirements at the WTF.

Can you retire in the first match and play the second or third? What are the rules?

Nole fan
11-11-2011, 04:34 PM
this is 100% correct. beautifully said, it sets a horrible model for younger players, something a #1 should not do....

You're by your own right the worst rafatard in this forum. Making points for ACC this year? You're doing good son.

Nole fan
11-11-2011, 04:36 PM
No i want him to keep killing Nadal + i'm sucking up to you

Well keep doing that, i like you this way. :hearts:

Johnny Groove
11-11-2011, 04:41 PM
You're by your own right the worst rafatard in this forum. Making points for ACC this year? You're doing good son.

You are doing a better job than he is.

NID
11-11-2011, 04:42 PM
ACT I
Djokovic retires.
"He should have toughed it out, not quit like a wuss!"

ACT II
Djokovic plays until the end, gets bagelled in the third.
"Disgraceful, faking injury, clearly outplayed. If you are hurt, do not play!"

ACT III
Djokovic decides not to play, gives a w/o.
"Disgraceful, scared, faking, should have played and would have lost for sure!"

Carry on!

Roadmap
11-11-2011, 04:46 PM
Can you retire in the first match and play the second or third? What are the rules?

I am actually not sure. It is not knockout however so I assume it could be a possibility. Djokovic certainly has the desire, determination and consistency to pull something like this off :worship:

Nole fan
11-11-2011, 04:54 PM
You are doing a better job than he is.

You used to be a reasonable poster, but you're becoming such a tard lately. It's sad really. :sad:

Nole fan
11-11-2011, 04:55 PM
I am actually not sure. It is not knockout however so I assume it could be a possibility. Djokovic certainly has the desire, determination and consistency to pull something like this off :worship:

No, of course not. Once you walkover you're out.

jmjhb
11-11-2011, 04:59 PM
Coming from Nole fan, being called a 'tard' is actually a compliment :lol:

I thought she and her rabid fangirlism was leaving the forum?

Roger the Dodger
11-11-2011, 05:01 PM
We should toss a coin over the possibilities of Novak not participating in WTF.

Might be a wise decision.

rickcastle
11-11-2011, 05:01 PM
You used to be a reasonable poster, but you're becoming such a tard lately. It's sad really. :sad:

:haha: :haha: High priestess of the Djokovic cult calling people out on their tardism.

Sapeod
11-11-2011, 05:05 PM
You used to be a reasonable poster, but you're becoming such a tard lately. It's sad really. :sad:
You can't really call anyone else a tard :tape:

Nole fan
11-11-2011, 05:07 PM
Coming from Nole fan, being called a 'tard' is actually a compliment :lol:

I thought she and her rabid fangirlism was leaving the forum?

You'll miss me when I'm gone. :p

Johnny Groove
11-11-2011, 05:12 PM
Coming from Nole fan, being called a 'tard' is actually a compliment :lol:

I thought she and her rabid fangirlism was leaving the forum?

:haha: :haha: High priestess of the Djokovic cult calling people out on their tardism.

You can't really call anyone else a tard :tape:

I was going to say something, but the above 3 posters covered it, Nole Fan.

Corey Feldman
11-11-2011, 05:13 PM
stop picking on her you bunch of neanderthals

tangerine_dream
11-11-2011, 05:16 PM
15 pages for a walkover...a match that never happened...not one ball was struck. In other words, there is absolutely nothing to discuss. This Nole is pretty good.

Nole Rules
11-11-2011, 05:19 PM
15 pages for a walkover...a match that never happened...not one ball was struck. In other words, there is absolutely nothing to discuss. This Nole is pretty good.

:worship:

Nole fan
11-11-2011, 05:19 PM
stop picking on her you bunch of neanderthals

Don't worry my knight in white armour, I have thicker skin than all those macho boys combined. I can kick ass. :mad:

Nole fan
11-11-2011, 05:20 PM
15 pages for a walkover...a match that never happened...not one ball was struck. In other words, there is absolutely nothing to discuss. This Nole is pretty good.

As usual, Tangy owning everybody in this thread with one single post. :worship:

Henry Chinaski
11-11-2011, 05:24 PM
15 pages for a walkover...a match that never happened...not one ball was struck. In other words, there is absolutely nothing to discuss. This Nole is pretty good.

haven't read anything except quickly skimming the last page. I just came to say exactly this.

mental, even by mtf standards.

heya
11-11-2011, 05:46 PM
mostly agitated fed fans who are 21 year olds or 50 year old men.

nsidhan
11-11-2011, 06:03 PM
I guess Serbia made the right assessment during the Davis Cup. Nole at 60% is better than Troicki :D.

paseo
11-11-2011, 06:04 PM
What a clown, this Troicki.

tektonac
11-11-2011, 06:23 PM
What a clown, this Troicki.

you should've learned that in troicki vs murray at the FO 2011, so this is _not_ news at all.


Nole's first serious tournament after USO is A0 2012, so there are no expectations from his fans. He did his hard miles already and deserves to slack off a bit.

teacherling
11-11-2011, 06:37 PM
well we all knew he came for the money. Guess the serbian hiearchy system still forced him to beat Troicki. On the minus side he might not get a christmas card from Viktor now

how about the Swiss and Spanish tennis hierarchy? E.g. Nadal vs X spanish player and Federer vs Wawrinka, as already mentioned. Not good looking, sure, but no big exception either. Unfortunate for us, spectators and fans though.

Vida
11-11-2011, 06:47 PM
real pity here is that novak's semifinal streak is over. anybody know how it stands?

Geo
11-11-2011, 06:49 PM
So stupid. All of us knew Djokovic shouldn't have bothered playing Paris :o :tape: He should have saved himself for the WTF :shrug: Now he'll probably play 1-2 matches there and pull out as well...

MatchFederer
11-11-2011, 07:18 PM
stop picking on her you bunch of neanderthals

LOL. Dude, shut the FUCK up.



Too funny!

Saberq
11-11-2011, 07:28 PM
real pity here is that novak's semifinal streak is over. anybody know how it stands?

15 ...

Noleta
11-11-2011, 07:36 PM
Wow.....16 pages for a w/o?:eek::spit::lol:

star
11-11-2011, 07:39 PM
Wow.....16 pages for a w/o?:eek::spit::lol:

You need to up your post count per page. :hug: It’s only 6 pages for me. :p

Vida
11-11-2011, 07:41 PM
15 ...

I meant in history :facepalm: ;)

Noleta
11-11-2011, 07:43 PM
You need to up your post count per page. :hug: It’s only 6 pages for me. :p

Good or bad thing?:p

The person i feel sorry for here,is Viktor:o:spit:

Hope this teach Nole a lesson next time,never risk things,when you're not 100% fit,even if it means he'll miss DC.:rolleyes::(Fool.

hisham70
11-11-2011, 07:46 PM
This is why people should not be comparing Nole with Federer.

Matt01
11-11-2011, 07:50 PM
This is why people should not be comparing Nole with Federer.


True. Federer would have lost this match while Djokvic would have won if he wasn't injured so badly. No comparison ;)

Noleta
11-11-2011, 07:51 PM
This is why people should not be comparing Nole with Federer.

Don't like the comparison shit,each player is different.

Topspindoctor
11-11-2011, 11:28 PM
Jeez, what a dick. Don't play the tournament to begin with if you're genuinely injured.

Typical Nole.

He got a lot of money to play in Paris. :shrug:

dabeast
11-12-2011, 02:56 AM
Disgraceful stuff from Djokovic, especially when he's #1.

yeah, "I could have finished the match but what's the point? I can't win against a player like Murray Tsonga". Great attitude :o

Shinoj
11-12-2011, 03:19 AM
BTW The thread title is wrong. Nobody defeated Djokovic. He just Walked over.:lol:

GSMnadal
11-12-2011, 05:09 AM
No you don't, that's really stupid thinking.

Stupid thinking? That's how every (professional) athlete should think.

GSMnadal
11-12-2011, 05:18 AM
you are just saying all this because you don't even believe he is injured. Hindsight is 20/20 but when you're in the middle of a situation, it's not that easy to know what the right thing to do is.

If you felt fine in practice and then the next day the pain starts 15 minutes into the match, and you're like "what the fuck?" and "how I am supposed to last to the end (even to take a loss 'like a man') if it's this bad in only 15 minutes?" Or you feel fine one day and go to bed and wake up the next day in agony, and all you did was sleep. Anyone who's had an injury (doesn't have to be an athlete) or an illness knows what it's like to make a miscalculation. "Oh I'm not that bad, I can go to work today" and then by the time you get there you are so badly off, you just stay for 1 hour and go back home (and everyone wonders why you even came in the first place if you're so sick/hurt... but that's not how it felt to you when you made the decision).

This could be the case, I just don't think it is.

Well if you believe him that's exactly what happened.

I don't believe him, that's just the textbook message for letting the fans down easy and saving face.

Just like Rafa's whole 'difficult decision', 'great event', 'most beautiful city', 'hopefully try to win it one day' crap when he said he wasn't going to play Paris.

It's the tennis equivalent of breaking up with someone by saying 'it's not you, it's me. Let's remain friends.'

001
11-12-2011, 12:40 PM
I cannot believe how big haters you are! If you have the true love for the game which brought so many good moments to all of us, you would not treat the players like that. I am seriously questioning your moral. To be so full of hate towards the guy who did so much for the game this year. EVERY SINGLE f**king match he played 100% and won them this year. He aint a robot guys! Of course his body is going to ache at the end of the year. He went out on court to play for Davis Cup under pressure of his team and Serbian people - because he didnt want to let them down, and now he is paying for it. Yet, you are all still here to spit on him and make him a loser instead of a great winner as he is. And i wonder wheather you all quit your job and go home when you have some health problems???? I heard it's called a sick leave. Hmm, sportsman dont get that do they? They are just pure gladiators. If they dont die in front of you to prove you that they are hurt - you will call they fakers. WHY DO YOU ALL WORK? For money or for pure pleasure? ANd dont bullshit you being saints and always making right choices! At least your lives r private and there is noone but yourselves and family who question your right or wrong decisions.

THis guy has only 24 years! He earned all his money with hard work. OF Course he deserved his year end bonus! Nobody should deny that. But cruel tennis rules do not allow tennis players to be humans or to feel human. Every week new tournament in a different country/continent. ALL YEAR ROUND!! Matches last for at least 1h, and sometimes up to 4h. AND THEY ARE ALL ALONE ON THE COURT. With 1min break. If you forgot that he won every single tournament this year and beat every single guy that there is.... then please stop watching tennis. It is not for you. Go bet on soccer or whatever.

ANd yes. ALl the kids should look up to this guy. He is REAL. He came from nowhere and nothing and believed so much in himself when noone did. NOONE. And he proved that with hard work, sacrifices and strong belief - even though your health is not on your side - YOU can achieve great things.

Wouldn't you want your kids to be hard workers, and when the life dont give them easy pass to keep on fighting? Oh no. You would want your kids to look up to RF - flawless guy, with no emotion, or symphathy towards any other player when he loses... Because you want your kids to be Gods like him? Well good luck. Your kids will probably end up thinking they are a big failure because they will never be as perfect as RF. Oh, i'm sorry. Did I forget to mention that it is all a MARKETING??

Now hate me. Oh, and don;t forget to mention how many times he retired or whatever you find convincing enough. I dont give a shit.

GSMnadal
11-12-2011, 12:47 PM
I cannot believe how big haters you are! If you have the true love for the game which brought so many good moments to all of us, you would not treat the players like that. I am seriously questioning your moral. To be so full of hate towards the guy who did so much for the game this year. EVERY SINGLE f**king match he played 100% and won them this year. He aint a robot guys! Of course his body is going to ache at the end of the year. He went out on court to play for Davis Cup under pressure of his team and Serbian people - because he didnt want to let them down, and now he is paying for it. Yet, you are all still here to spit on him and make him a loser instead of a great winner as he is. And i wonder wheather you all quit your job and go home when you have some health problems???? I heard it's called a sick leave. Hmm, sportsman dont get that do they? They are just pure gladiators. If they dont die in front of you to prove you that they are hurt - you will call they fakers. WHY DO YOU ALL WORK? For money or for pure pleasure? ANd dont bullshit you being saints and always making right choices! At least your lives r private and there is noone but yourselves and family who question your right or wrong decisions.

THis guy has only 24 years! He earned all his money with hard work. OF Course he deserved his year end bonus! Nobody should deny that. But cruel tennis rules do not allow tennis players to be humans or to feel human. Every week new tournament in a different country/continent. ALL YEAR ROUND!! Matches last for at least 1h, and sometimes up to 4h. AND THEY ARE ALL ALONE ON THE COURT. With 1min break. If you forgot that he won every single tournament this year and beat every single guy that there is.... then please stop watching tennis. It is not for you. Go bet on soccer or whatever.

ANd yes. ALl the kids should look up to this guy. He is REAL. He came from nowhere and nothing and believed so much in himself when noone did. NOONE. And he proved that with hard work, sacrifices and strong belief - even though your health is not on your side - YOU can achieve great things.

Wouldn't you want your kids to be hard workers, and when the life dont give them easy pass to keep on fighting? Oh no. You would want your kids to look up to RF - flawless guy, with no emotion, or symphathy towards any other player when he loses... Because you want your kids to be Gods like him? Well good luck. Your kids will probably end up thinking they are a big failure because they will never be as perfect as RF. Oh, i'm sorry. Did I forget to mention that it is all a MARKETING??

Now hate me. Oh, and don;t forget to mention how many times he retired or whatever you find convincing enough. I dont give a shit.

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/77168_o.gif

scarecrows
11-12-2011, 12:56 PM
Thanks god I'm not going to be around anymore to listen to any of your pathetic nonesense.


good news

ZaZoo)
11-12-2011, 02:05 PM
Stupid thinking? That's how every (professional) athlete should think.

No they shouldn't, otherwise they would aggravate their injury which is plain dumb.