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Who will join the 1st title club in 2012? (Congrats Martin Klizan)

Action Jackson
11-11-2011, 06:58 AM
Of course there will be a few surprise title winners. This year we had 10, lets see how many first time winners there will be next season.

2011 Winners


Kevin Anderson (RSA) Johannesburg Outdoor Hard
Ivan Dodig (CRO) Zagreb Indoor Hard
Milos Raonic (CAN) San Jose Indoor Hard
Pablo Andujar (ESP) Casablanca Clay
Ryan Sweeting (USA) Houston Clay
Andreas Seppi (ITA) Eastbourne Grass
Alex Dolgopolov (UKR) Umag Clay
Robin Haase (NED) Kitzbühel Clay
Florian Mayer (GER) Bucharest Clay
Janko Tipsarevic (SRB) Kuala Lumpur Indoor Hard



2012 Winners

Martin Klizan (SVK) St.Petersburg Indoor Hard

Lurking
11-11-2011, 07:20 AM
Loads of U23 guys.

Arkulari
11-11-2011, 07:42 AM
Giraldo and Tomic.

Luinir
11-11-2011, 07:55 AM
Giraldo.

Chase Visa
11-11-2011, 08:18 AM
Tomic - almost certain to. Despite his lack of motivation in small events.
Bogomolov - probably won't happen, he just isn't good enough.
Young - will probably win a mug American title like Atlanta or Delray Beach.
Dimitrov - I think he probably will. Step up now, please! :p
Starace - deserves one, but I doubt he will. Still, given Tipsy, Mayer and Seppi were able to win one this year, he still might.
Fognini - will probably win a mug clay court title like one of the South American tournaments, Casablanca, one of the July ones or Bucharest.
Falla - could go on a tear somewhere, but I'm not betting on it.
Harrison - see Young. However, he might win somewhere else, too.
Berlocq - :lol: He doesn't even win much ATP level matches, let alone go deep enough in a tournament.

Other possibilities:

Benneteau - surely he's gotta win sometime?
Giraldo - see what I said about Fognini.
Ramos - ditto.
Muller - has he won one? Might get one on a quick court.

My guess is that there'll be a random one though. I mean, who would've thought that Dodig, Raonic and Sweeting would've won ATP titles at the end of last year?

Sonja1989
11-11-2011, 12:51 PM
Tomic, Fognini, Dimitrov, Harrison and hopefully Starace wins one finally.

Luinir
11-11-2011, 01:03 PM
I think Raonic was exception this year. So, i don't think all of these young guns will win their first titles. (Tomic, Harrison and Dimitrov) Maybe one of them can win, but not two of three or all of them.

jcempire
11-11-2011, 01:08 PM
who knows?????

a breakout???

Donald, Ryan and Tomic????

Filo V.
11-11-2011, 01:42 PM
Dimitrov isn't winning a title in 2012.

Filo V.
11-11-2011, 01:46 PM
Benneteau, Fognini and Tomic have the best chances. Giraldo I think has a chance at Santiago again, maybe Acapulco if he's really hot in form. Tomic can win an event like Eastbourne and if he does better with his motivation at smaller events, he can win somewhere like Los Angeles. Benneteau will always have chances to win a title on all surfaces, his mental toughness is the big question for him. I think Fabio for sure gets at least one title. I think his best chances are the pre-French and post-Wimbledon clay events.

I wouldn't put it past Harrison to win a title, maybe at Delray Beach or LA, somewhere like that. I think the chances are below 50% but realistic.

The other men mentioned in this thread will not win a title, and some of them will never win a title.

Luinir
11-11-2011, 01:51 PM
As example, Falla or Berlocq will never win a one.

bjurra
11-11-2011, 02:48 PM
As example, Falla or Berlocq will never win a one.

If Ryan Sweeting can win a title, anyone can.

Action Jackson
11-11-2011, 03:01 PM
As example, Falla or Berlocq will never win a one.

Giraldo might win one, but worse guys than Falla and Berlocq have won titles.

Henry Chinaski
11-11-2011, 03:01 PM
In the other category...Gilles Muller.

Luinir
11-11-2011, 03:18 PM
Giraldo might win one, but worse guys than Falla and Berlocq have won titles.

Yeah, but i think they are too old to improve. They need to get really lucky to get one.

Action Jackson
11-11-2011, 03:35 PM
Yeah, but i think they are too old to improve. They need to get really lucky to get one.

Spadea won a title in his 30s. Berlocq could win a low level clay event.

abraxas21
11-11-2011, 03:38 PM
giraldo, tomic, harrison

giraldo is a huge choker, though. that might conspire against him

Filo V.
11-11-2011, 03:39 PM
We have to be talking about really low level for Berlocq to win a clay title. Like, Santiago where half the field isn't top 100. In any quality ATP event, he wouldn't make finals let alone win an event.

SVK
11-11-2011, 03:42 PM
Starace out of nowhere might finally win something...as for others, we will have probably some surprising winners (like Sweeting etc) from someone who is ranked outside TOP 100...hard to say an example right now, you never now who will rise suddenly throughout the seasson.

Luinir
11-11-2011, 03:46 PM
Spadea won a title in his 30s. Berlocq could win a low level clay event.

I really hope he does. I like him very much.

Filo V.
11-11-2011, 03:47 PM
Sweeting really got handed the title, more than actually winning it with good play. I think it's quite clear that was a fluke and it takes a lot of luck to win a title in those situations.

With that said, I like Berlocq too, it would be nice to see him winning a title. Also I want to see Poto winning a title. They've been around forever and deserve a payoff.

Aardvark
11-11-2011, 05:19 PM
Mannarino has a chance too

rubbERR
11-11-2011, 05:20 PM
Muger Olderer will join there 2012.

DYJBAA
11-11-2011, 05:31 PM
Wow more votes for Harrison than Young? It's Time I even the score.

Young is much higher ranked than Harrison FYI

Hian-GOAT
11-11-2011, 06:23 PM
I hope Potito, he has had some chances and he deserves clearly a title, at least one :hug:
I see Fognini ending the career as a virgin :shrug:

Henry Chinaski
11-11-2011, 06:58 PM
I really hope he does. I like him very much.

anyone who doesn't like him is an idiot or just hasn't watched him enough. Huge fighter in an era of pussies.

Las7
11-11-2011, 08:08 PM
Dimitrov will only win a title if he works on his backhand extensively over the winter break and stops mentally collapsing in matches he should be winning.

Start da Game
11-11-2011, 08:28 PM
young could be the first one next year if he can blend his tennis with some patience......there are ample opportunities in america in the early season after australian open with so many tiny mug events lined up......

tomic's turn will come a little later in the season......harrison will have to wait for an indefinite period......fognini is too inconsistent to win any title......dimitrov will have done exceedingly well if he reaches quarterfinals of 250 events, forget about titles......bogmolov jr. wins if he gets lucky somewhere......starace, falla and berlocq are not winning anything......

Sham Kay
11-11-2011, 08:31 PM
Jesus Federico Del Bonis. Pronounced "Heysus".

Start da Game
11-11-2011, 08:36 PM
Jesus Federico Del Bonis. Pronounced "Heysus".

i saw he was playing a match somewhere 2 days ago......it's always interesting to keep track of south american rising players......

Start da Game
11-11-2011, 08:39 PM
tipsarevic finally won a title last month, in fact two titles......well done......

mooncreek
11-11-2011, 08:57 PM
Of players not on the list, I'd add Gilles Muller.

Newport is a great spot for a first-timer. Dimitrov or Harrison (who won his doubles title there this year) could win that one.

That US Clay event would be a great spot for Bogo. If fricking Wayne Odesnik and Ryan Sweeting can win that, surely Bogo could.

Maybe Young can win a title. I'm still amazed he's already made the Bangkok final (neither a Mickey Mouse 250 or even in the United States).

I can see Giraldo or even Falla winning a 250 clay event - maybe in the South America swing or that lull after Wimbledon.

I can't see Fognini (what happened in Roland Garros will stay his career highlight), Starace, or Berlocq ever winning a title.

Pea
11-11-2011, 09:23 PM
Tomic is a sure bet, but I feel like Bogo can get a lucky run in those smaller American tourneys.

Action Jackson
12-23-2011, 06:08 AM
Young has a lot of support.

Chirag
12-23-2011, 11:38 AM
I say Dimitrov

tommyg6
12-23-2011, 02:21 PM
Vasek Pospisil will win one. He will win either win Newport or Los Angeles

Action Jackson
12-29-2011, 10:27 AM
Tomic is a sure bet, but I feel like Bogo can get a lucky run in those smaller American tourneys.

Lucky USTA can't ban Bogo from these events.

Gagsquet
12-29-2011, 11:18 AM
Tomic won't win one. Unreliable guy.

Helevorn
12-29-2011, 11:25 AM
Hopefully Fognini and Starace won't reach a final whatsoever (neither in Challengers, I hope). Probably Harrison and Tomic.

sports freak
12-29-2011, 01:54 PM
Fognini

misty1
12-29-2011, 02:14 PM
id say gilles muller has a shot at one

id like to see adrian mannarino, ricardas berankis and andi beck grab one as well

would love to see marsel somehow grab one

im kind fo surprised so many people here voted for girgor. Not that i dont think he cant but given how much hate he has on here im just surprised

madmax
12-29-2011, 02:24 PM
if someone like Sweeting can win ATP event, I see no reason why any moderately talented player can't win one either...when you have Johannesburg, Newport and Houston out there, titles are up for the taking

quenelle
12-29-2011, 08:54 PM
if someone like Sweeting can win ATP event, I see no reason why any moderately talented player can't win one either...when you have Johannesburg, Newport and Houston out there, titles are up for the taking

Johannesburg doesn't exist anymore though. They couldn't get enough sponsorship.

But I agree, any one of these guys could win if they get the right draw at the right time.

guyha4
12-29-2011, 08:57 PM
dimitrov and sela

Henry Chinaski
12-29-2011, 11:41 PM
I did an blog on the subject

http://shanktennis.com/2011/12/29/first-title-club-2012/

fran70
12-30-2011, 12:12 AM
I would mention Kubot. He has a good combination of experience and good tennis to win his first ATP title if he is in an inspired week. I like Berankis, Tomic, Giraldo and Harrison on that list too. Fognini, Istomin, Cuevas aswell.
I would like to see Starace winning his first ATP title too but....

Sonja1989
12-30-2011, 12:25 AM
Fran, I send you 10 000 of vcach if Kubot wins a title and this forum will really have enough from my support. :rolls: Anyway I very very very hope you will be right. :angel: :cheerleader: :bounce: But I don't believe to be honest.

VolandriFan
12-30-2011, 12:35 AM
Giraldo and Tomic are my picks.

nole_no1
12-30-2011, 01:49 AM
Tomic,Dimitrov,Young,Harrison,Berlocq all will join the club

Action Jackson
02-04-2012, 07:43 PM
Lacko in his 1st final can he do what Dodig did at Zagreb.

delpiero7
02-04-2012, 10:55 PM
Should be mentioned that poor old Benneteau missed out again in his 6th appearance in an ATP final when he lost to Nieminen in Sydney.

Looks like he's destined to forever be the bridesmaid, although I hope he manages to snag one somewhere - Paris Masters would be pretty good for many a reason.

Gillouthe best
02-04-2012, 11:01 PM
After seeing Berlocq level in Vina del Mar, I think he could snatch a MM clay title like Bucarest or Casablanca,

Now he is one set a piece with Chela at SF.

fran70
02-04-2012, 11:38 PM
After seeing Berlocq level in Vina del Mar, I think he could snatch a MM clay title like Bucarest or Casablanca,

Now he is one set a piece with Chela at SF.

His only chance is this week in Vina del Mar or never again

BroTree123
02-04-2012, 11:59 PM
Lacko IMO.

bouncer7
02-05-2012, 02:21 AM
LOL Mtf at its best. Guy with the least votes at pool so close to title and the guy with most votes could easily finish year without title LOL

NardDog
02-05-2012, 03:25 AM
http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/02/04/1226262/708036-bernard-tomic.jpg

FlameOn
02-05-2012, 03:27 AM
Hopefully Giraldo, Harrison, Grisha.

Looner
02-05-2012, 03:41 AM
http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/02/04/1226262/708036-bernard-tomic.jpg

You may well be right. I hear the competition in jail is not as high as on the ATP tour :o.

Sauletekis
02-05-2012, 03:51 AM
LOL Mtf at its best. Guy with the least votes at pool so close to title and the guy with most votes could easily finish year without title LOL

His only chance is this week in Vina del Mar or never again

You got your answer here. And Tomic will have many chances of having tittles this year, and he will take advantage on some of them.

Yolita
02-05-2012, 04:24 AM
Lacko and Berlocq could do it tomorrow. I haven't seen Berlocq play in Viña del Mar, but I saw Pico and he choked big time against Chardy: from 4-0 to 4-4 in the second. Eventually he pulled himself together and won. But if berlocq is on fire, he could take Pico down.

Ivo#1Fan
02-06-2012, 09:29 PM
Does Newport count as an ATP title? If so, that should probably ensure at least one unknown (Gooch maybe?) will pick up his first title.

Hewitt =Legend
02-06-2012, 11:54 PM
I wouldn't classify Gooch as an unknown mate.

Remember when he destroyed Nadal in Sydney?

leng jai
02-06-2012, 11:59 PM
I don't remember mate, but I'll never forgot his fiery orange locks.

Hewitt =Legend
02-07-2012, 12:04 AM
Made mince meat of him mate.

7-6, retired.

Some experts are saying that the long term side effects of this beatdown are still lingering in Rafito's head and is part of the reason of why he has lost 7 straight finals against NoleGoat...

leng jai
02-07-2012, 12:07 AM
Its more like Rafito has had impaired vision ever since that fiery set in 07.

Hewitt =Legend
02-07-2012, 12:18 AM
whatever the reason, I think the following equation is clear:

His Royal Redness > Rafito

Chase Visa
04-25-2012, 05:32 AM
Still no first-time winners....

Maybe someone can win Bucharest?

Topspindoctor
04-25-2012, 06:35 AM
Wow more votes for Harrison than Young? It's Time I even the score.

Young is much higher ranked than Harrison FYI

Thats because Harrison has slight talent, while Young is a weaponless clown.

StevoTG
04-25-2012, 12:19 PM
Does Newport count as an ATP title? If so, that should probably ensure at least one unknown (Gooch maybe?) will pick up his first title.

Newport will probably have a strong field this year, with players looking to prepare for the Olympics. I wouldn't be surprised if any of the seeds who fall in the first week at Wimbledon play Newport. Isner, Raonic and Hewitt are already down to play.

yesh222
04-25-2012, 12:52 PM
How did no one mention Nishikori yet in this thread?

Chase Visa
04-25-2012, 12:56 PM
How did no one mention Nishikori yet in this thread?

Because he's already won a title :p

lucyfur
04-28-2012, 09:35 PM
Will the Fog be next?

motorhead
04-28-2012, 09:39 PM
unlikely but I hope so

shotgun
04-28-2012, 10:12 PM
This season has been really poor in debut winners so far. At this point last year we already had five debut winners.

Let's hope Bucharest keeps its tradition of unlikely winners.

extremaduratenis
04-29-2012, 07:01 AM
I think Albert Ramos

Chase Visa
04-29-2012, 07:12 AM
lol, voting for Young and Dimitrov and ruling out Berlocq. At least I was smart enough to rule out Bogomolov :p

Dunno who has the best chance to win their maiden title who weren't mentioned - it looked like Benneteau for a while, but he's now hurt. Ramos probably.

Gillouthe best
04-29-2012, 07:44 AM
Bennetau could have won Bucharest, and Ramos had his chance in Casablanca, but I think he has another chance in Kitzbuhel/Gstaad. Same goes for Berlocq, I really hope he can win a title :yeah:

lucyfur
04-29-2012, 04:29 PM
It was not to be for the Fog.

Nagime
04-29-2012, 05:00 PM
Who is the titleless player with most finals? Would be Benneteau with his 0-6?

Chase Visa
07-22-2012, 01:24 PM
Well Muller is in the final at Atlanta, and LA looks a great opportunity for a first-time titlist.

Also, voting Young in the poll. Worst call ever. :facepalm:

BroTree123
07-22-2012, 01:27 PM
Tomug so high in the poll :facepalm:

Chase Visa
07-22-2012, 01:30 PM
Tomug so high in the poll :facepalm:

You do have to realise that this poll was taken at the end of 2011. It's not as bad as Young and Boggers votes lol.

motorhead
07-22-2012, 03:14 PM
so far we can say only Berlocq has had a realistic shot.

cutesteve22
07-22-2012, 06:21 PM
Paire Harrison Dimitrov have great chance

coluta
07-22-2012, 08:28 PM
Actually, Muller has the biggest change. :) One match away.

nole_no1
07-22-2012, 08:31 PM
Can you believe i voted for young? :rolls:

BroTree123
07-23-2012, 09:44 AM
You do have to realise that this poll was taken at the end of 2011. It's not as bad as Young and Boggers votes lol.

Don't feel bad. There is always a bit of Reed in our souls.

Action Jackson
09-22-2012, 04:31 PM
St. Petersburg delivers again.

Finally a first title winner either Klizan or Fognini.

Björki
09-22-2012, 04:35 PM
forza Fog :rocker2:

Chirag
09-22-2012, 04:35 PM
is this the first time we get a new titilist this year ?

Action Jackson
09-22-2012, 04:37 PM
Yes.

Litotes
09-22-2012, 05:44 PM
is this the first time we get a new titilist this year ?

Yes. We've had plenty of second-time winners previously, like Raonic, Nieminen, Andujar, Anderson, Haase, Seppi and Dolgopolov, but no first-timers until now.

Chase Visa
09-23-2012, 01:11 AM
About time, as one might say.

Loads of people (like me) predicted the Fog, but no-one in their right minds would've said Klizan.

Mark Lenders
09-23-2012, 02:11 AM
People actually thought that uber mugs like Berlocq, Falla, Bogomolov and Young were going to win a title :spit: :superlol:?

Hope it's Klizan tomorrow.

uxyzapenje
09-23-2012, 03:13 AM
Hope it's Klizan...

Action Jackson
09-23-2012, 02:20 PM
Klizan is the first new winner of the year what a dire year for debut winners but not for Klizan.

Chirag
09-23-2012, 02:22 PM
Klizan is the first new winner of the year what a dire year for debut winners but not for Klizan.

first winner coming in the indoor season is horrible :help: Is this the latest ever first time winner ? I cant think of any in the last 10 years

Action Jackson
09-23-2012, 02:27 PM
first winner coming in the indoor season is horrible :help: Is this the latest ever first time winner ? I cant think of any in the last 10 years

Been going since 2007. Lowest ever number was 5 and highest 11.

St Petersburg has had Troicki, Kuku and now Klizan as a title winner.

Chirag
09-23-2012, 02:29 PM
Been going since 2007. Lowest ever number was 5 and highest 11.

St Petersburg has had Troicki, Kuku and now Klizan as a title winner.

but is this is the longest we have waited in the tennis calender to have a first time winner .I am pretty sure we had a first time titalist in Monaco before the fall season of 2007

BroTree123
09-23-2012, 02:31 PM
Been going since 2007. Lowest ever number was 5 and highest 11.

St Petersburg has had Troicki, Kuku and now Klizan as a title winner.

Moscow had Troicki, not St. Petersburg.

Action Jackson
09-23-2012, 02:32 PM
Yes, it's the latest winner and Troicki winning any title is not good.

Freak3yman84
09-23-2012, 02:32 PM
I think this Slovakian guy Martin Klizan will be the first player to win his first title. It's a long shot, but I think he'll do it this year.

BroTree123
09-23-2012, 02:40 PM
Yes, it's the latest winner and Troicki winning any title is not good.

Actually, Gattuso is it's latest winner. You're on fire mate :hatoff:

Hell, Troicki winning any match in general is never good.

Litotes
09-23-2012, 02:46 PM
I think this Slovakian guy Martin Klizan will be the first player to win his first title. It's a long shot, but I think he'll do it this year.

A daring guess, you're never afraid to stick you're neck out - are you? ;)

By the way, is a short shot the opposite of a long shot?

Freak3yman84
09-23-2012, 02:48 PM
A daring guess, you're never afraid to stick you're neck out - are you? ;)

By the way, is a short shot the opposite of a long shot?

:lol: I'm a very wild guesser :p

:scratch: :shrug: I don't know. But people would look at you very oddly if you say that.

Action Jackson
09-23-2012, 02:53 PM
Actually, Gattuso is it's latest winner. You're on fire mate :hatoff:

Hell, Troicki winning any match in general is never good.

There has only been 1 winner this season, therefore it's the latest 1st title winner since this thread was started.

Look at all the previous winners. All of them were before the autumn indoor season.

Litotes
09-23-2012, 02:56 PM
:lol: I'm a very wild guesser :p

:scratch: :shrug: I don't know. But people would look at you very oddly if you say that.

That's OK. I'm used to odd looks. After all, my grandfather's name was Odd (yes, really) so it runs in the family.

Now that you're on a run, do you feel up to predicting the next 1st time winner? Or is this a little too soon to tell?

Freak3yman84
09-23-2012, 02:58 PM
That's OK. I'm used to odd looks. After all, my grandfather's name was Odd (yes, really) so it runs in the family.

Now that you're on a run, do you feel up to predicting the next 1st time winner? Or is this a little too soon to tell?

:lol: That's interesting!

Hmm... It might be a little too early to make another genius prediction like my last one, so ask me again in about 6 months time. If not then, then ask me again in about a year. Surely, I'll have an answer by then :p:p:p

Lurking
09-23-2012, 04:13 PM
first winner coming in the indoor season is horrible :help: Is this the latest ever first time winner ? I cant think of any in the last 10 years


Maiden winners year by year:

2012 - 1 at least
2011 - 10
2010 - 5
2009 - 5
2008 - 11
2007 - 5
2006 - 11
2005 - 8
2004 - 13
2003 - 9
2002 - 12
2001 - 10
2000 - 9
1999 - 16
1998 - 10
1997 - 12
1996 - 9
1995 - 18
1994 - 8
1993 - 10
1992 - 15
1991 - 17
1990 - 15
1989 - 11
1988 - 12
1987 - 12
1986 - 13
1985 - 17
1984 - 11
1983 - 11
1982 - 12
1981 - 16
1980 - 10


Worst generation of the open era.

BroTree123
09-23-2012, 04:14 PM
There has only been 1 winner this season, therefore it's the latest 1st title winner since this thread was started.

Look at all the previous winners. All of them were before the autumn indoor season.

Oh whoops, you mean't it in that context. My bad.

Speaking of which, not a great look for the rest of the tour.

Action Jackson
09-23-2012, 04:21 PM
Oh whoops, you mean't it in that context. My bad.

Speaking of which, not a great look for the rest of the tour.

It's a shit look for the tour. Hope next year is better.

tealeaves
09-23-2012, 04:36 PM
Martin Klizan is the first of the year :eek:? That's quite late

sexybeast
09-23-2012, 04:43 PM
I also dont think we will get anyone else for the rest of the year. Next year maybe Tomic and Goffin can get one.

Björki
09-23-2012, 04:44 PM
congrats Martin :yeah: after such a long match yesterday a bit surprised.