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French tennis this year

yuri27
11-09-2011, 09:52 PM
Epic fail.
Is there a tennis country which have underachieved more than them in the last 30 years, considering their ressources and their huge number players??? I don't think so...
Unbelievably poor especially when you see that France excel in some other sports which are far less practiced than tennis in France.

Stronga23
11-09-2011, 09:55 PM
Tsonga did step it up and I would look for him to make a serious run at a GS Title. All the rest of the Frenchman is a wait and see because they are so unpredictable.

misty1
11-09-2011, 09:56 PM
there's been some good and some bad

the good: jo taking out federer and making the semis at wimbledon, gilles winning an atp 500 tournament..which sadly is the biggest title any of them have won in a while, gael and jo breaking into the top 10, all 3 of gael, jo and gilles winning titles this year, julien having a bit of a revival during the back end of the season, michael dominating the doubles circuit with zemonjic since montreal

yuri27
11-09-2011, 09:59 PM
Tsonga did step it up and I would look for him to make a serious run at a GS Title. All the rest of the Frenchman is a wait and see because they are so unpredictable.

Don't make laugh.
Tsonga will NEVER win a GS with Djoker,Nadal,Federer and Murray around, not to mention some other players who will get better or step up (Soderling,Del Potro,Tomic,possibly Nishikori and Dimitrov).
You can't win a GS without a backhand,not in modern tennis anyway.

misty1
11-09-2011, 10:03 PM
Don't make laugh.
Tsonga will NEVER win a GS with Djoker,Nadal,Federer and Murray around, not to mention some other players who will get better or step up (Soderling,Del Potro,Tomic,possibly Nishikori and Dimitrov).
You can't win a GS without a backhand,not in modern tennis anyway.

tsonga could definately win a slam. If he gets a little help and some of those players you mentioned are upset along the way. In fact he's the only 1 of the main 4 frenchmen with slam winning potential

v-money
11-09-2011, 10:04 PM
Not a particularly great year, but Tsonga and Simon did stay heathy and improve their rankings.

Any good Frenchmen coming up? Can Paire or Ruffin be any better than the current bunch?

yuri27
11-09-2011, 10:05 PM
tsonga could definately win a slam. If he gets a little help and some of those players you mentioned are upset along the way. In fact he's the only 1 of the main 4 frenchmen with slam winning potential

That will not happen, mark my words.
It could have happened in the 90's when the surfaces were overall faster but not now.
The guy played the best tennis of his life in AO2008 and at Wimbledon 2011 and yet,it wasn't enough to win the whole thing,against a far younger player than him (Djoker).
He is not going to get better at 27.

Not a particularly great year, but Tsonga and Simon did stay heathy and improve their rankings.

Any good Frenchmen coming up? Can Paire or Ruffin be any better than the current bunch?

They look even worse and (much)less promising than the previous bunch.....which augures well lol!

misty1
11-09-2011, 10:05 PM
what ever happened to giani mina? werent great things expected of him?

DrJules
11-09-2011, 10:07 PM
There certinly does seem a conversion issue.

France has a much larger pool of top 100 players than either Switzerland, Serbia or Britain, but France is winning far less significant titles (GS, YE, MS) than even Britain now Murray is starting to win more often with 2 MS this year.

TennisOnWood
11-09-2011, 10:09 PM
what ever happened to giani mina? werent great things expected of him?

Nothing.. poor year

Naudio Spanlatine
11-09-2011, 10:09 PM
tsonga did very well this year:shrug:

the women on the other hand:unsure:

yuri27
11-09-2011, 10:09 PM
There certinly does seem a conversion issue.

France has a much larger pool of top 100 players than either Switzerland, Serbia or Britain, but France is winning far less significant titles (GS, YE, MS) than even Britain now Murray is starting to win more often with 2 MS this year.

I think that Murray alone has won more significant titles than all the french players combined for the last 30 years........and he has not even won a GS yet!:eek:

pesto
11-09-2011, 10:10 PM
4 men in the YE top 20 sounds astoundingly good from a British standpoint, I have to say.

misty1
11-09-2011, 10:11 PM
it really depends on how you look at and define a good year because as i pointed out there are alot of positives to take from this year for french tennis.

but if you only count success as winning a grand slam or masters then its disappointing

yuri27
11-09-2011, 10:13 PM
tsonga did very well this year:shrug:


Best title he won: an ATP 250!
For a former GS finalist and a MS winner, he indeed did very well.....oh wait.

misty1
11-09-2011, 10:16 PM
Best title he won: an ATP 250!
For a former GS finalist and a MS winner, he indeed did very well.....oh wait.

but it could be seen as good for him in the way that he managed to stay healthy, made deep runs in the final 2 grand slams of the year and yeah he only won a couple of 250's but its better than nothing

Naudio Spanlatine
11-09-2011, 10:17 PM
Best title he won: an ATP 250!
For a former GS finalist and a MS winner, he indeed did very well.....oh wait.

he made it to three quarterfinal of the slams this year, what wrong with his performance i dont get it, at least hes getting better results

i dunno why are you trippin right now

DrJules
11-09-2011, 10:19 PM
4 men in the YE top 20 sounds astoundingly good from a British standpoint, I have to say.

Still take Murray over having 4 in top 20.

yuri27
11-09-2011, 10:21 PM
Still take Murray over having 4 in top 20.

Yeah especially considering Murray is worth all the french players combined for the last 30 years,at least in term of results.......and as i said, he is not even a GS winner.
And then, people are asking why i'm bashing french tennis........:rolleyes:

AllezUSA
11-10-2011, 02:32 AM
Yeah especially considering Murray is worth all the french players combined for the last 30 years,at least in term of results.......and as i said, he is not even a GS winner.
And then, people are asking why i'm bashing french tennis........:rolleyes:

No one's asking, we all just assume you're either clueless or your elevator doesn't go up to the top floor (ie, you're a few fries short of a Happy Meal).

rocketassist
11-10-2011, 03:07 AM
Tsonga has beaten all of the top 4 in GS events. It's not his fault if the slam surfaces are all too samey and slow for his game to be able to win one.

Djokovic beating him on the green Wimbledon clay was a travesty.

abraxas21
11-10-2011, 04:57 AM
Tsonga has beaten all of the top 4 in GS events. It's not his fault if the slam surfaces are all too samey and slow for his game to be able to win one.

Djokovic beating him on the green Wimbledon clay was a travesty.

this

fast_clay
11-10-2011, 05:05 AM
Djokovic beating him on the green Wimbledon clay was a travesty.

yes.

MuzzahLovah
11-10-2011, 05:26 AM
Hey- not so bad. Look American tennis. Feel better. Tsonga has as good a chance as GS as all all the Americans combined (Fish and Isner have a small chance, the rest have none).

yuri27
11-10-2011, 07:51 AM
Tsonga has beaten all of the top 4 in GS events. It's not his fault if the slam surfaces are all too samey and slow for his game to be able to win one.

Djokovic beating him on the green Wimbledon clay was a travesty.

But it's entirely his fault if he has a crap BH and a shit return game.