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US freezes UNESCO funds for recognizing Palestine

abraxas21
10-31-2011, 11:40 PM
http://www.jpost.com/VideoArticles/Video/Article.aspx?id=243912

US :facepalm:
Barack Obama :facepalm:
AIPAC :facepalm:
Israel :facepalm:
Germany :facepalm:
Netherlands :facepalm:
Canada :facepalm:
Zionists around the world :facepalm:

Black Adam
10-31-2011, 11:54 PM
It's not Obama but a law signed into effect in the early 90's.

Gagsquet
10-31-2011, 11:57 PM
Proud to be French.

Sapeod
11-01-2011, 12:00 AM
It's not a surprise countries like Israel, Germany and the US didn't accept and voted against this.

peribsen
11-01-2011, 12:36 AM
Well, it's not exactly on topic perhaps, but close enough.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/10/30/moshe-dayan-s-widow-ruth-zionist-dream-has-run-its-course.html

Israel is in dire straits when no less than Moshe Dayan's widow has this to say about its present state. Not that I'm really an admirer of the sort of world Moshe Dyana helped to build, but yet.

Excerpt:

In reference to the current prime minister’s conservative stance, Dayan takes pains to make herself clear. “I reject Netanyahu’s policy; it is a recipe for disaster. He is unwilling to address the issue. It’s a bunker mentality. We had the Oslo accords, which established Palestinian control over certain areas in the West Bank and Gaza, while other areas remained under mixed control. The accords established the Palestinian Authority and police force, but nothing has changed. The number of settlements has increased from 60 to 200, military checkpoints are everywhere, and freedom of movement is virtually nonexistent. Violence is still the only spoken language. I don’t try to instill optimism in my Palestinian friends. Out of courtesy, I tell them that I hope something will change. But I don’t speak about peace anymore; I don’t have the courage. I’m friends with so many Arabs. My soulmate is Raymonda Tawil, Arafat’s mother-in-law. This government does not represent my values. It’s gone so far. Both sides think they are freedom fighters.”
(..)
When I provoke her with the question of whether the security measures are justified by terrorism, she interrupts me and says: “Oh, please, nothing will stop terrorism except dialogue. [Yitz-hak] Rabin could have achieved peace. He fought terrorism as if there were no negotiations, and negotiated as if there was no terrorism.”(..)

BigJohn
11-01-2011, 01:06 AM
Shame on us. Apologies.

Filo V.
11-01-2011, 01:29 AM
Well a whole new can of worms has just been opened. That's pretty much what I feel on this subject.

shiaben
11-01-2011, 02:03 AM
These big Western nations wash their hands with Palestine's blood, pretty sad.

Mjau!
11-01-2011, 04:04 AM
Sweden :facepalm: I'm embarrassed :o

JolánGagó
11-01-2011, 10:25 AM
A logical and sensitive decision.

fast_clay
11-01-2011, 11:43 AM
isreal's had long enough to broker deals while standing on higher ground... for so long the upper hand afforded to them...

vucina
11-01-2011, 11:47 AM
Serbia :o

buddyholly
11-01-2011, 12:01 PM
UNESCO, like the rest of the UN, is just a gentlemen's club for misusing the US money. Hopefully that money will now be put to better use. Doctors Without Borders maybe.
As for UNESCO, let the other countries step up and contribute more, if they like. Oh wait, what would be the point of contributing if you are only interested in receiving? Even the title of this thread shows what this is all about - US money.

Getta
11-01-2011, 12:13 PM
107 countries in favour, 14 voted against and 47 abstained.

against

1. Australia
2. Canada
3. Czech Republic
4. Germany
5. Israel
6. Lithuania
7. the Netherlands
8. Palau
9. Panama
10. Samoa
11. Solomon Islands
12. Sweden
13. US
14. Vanuatu

EU countries in favour

1. Austria
2. Belgium
3. Cyprus
4. Greece
5. Ireland
6. Finland
7. France
8. Luxembourg
9. Malta
10. Slovenia
11. Spain


source: http://egyptianchronicles.blogspot.com/2011/10/breaking-news-palestine-gets-seat-in.html

swisht4u
11-01-2011, 12:58 PM
I hope palestine gets the 9th vote for statehood.
They can then take Israel to court for war crimes, Israel is worried about this.
israel would be more accountable for their actions also.

However it looks like Bosnia serbs have been bought off.

The leader of the Bosnian Serbs and president of their mini-state, Milorad Dodik, said after the meeting that the Serb representatives in the central institutions are against the possibility of Bosnia voting at the Security Council for the Palestinian bid.

He added that he now expects Bosnian Serbs and Israel to strengthen economic ties and work on tourism and agriculture.



What's this guy talking about tourism and agriculture? Not the smartest leadership over there. :rolleyes:

JolánGagó
11-01-2011, 12:59 PM
Spain :facepalm:

emotion
11-01-2011, 01:43 PM
America sucks

vucina
11-01-2011, 01:50 PM
I hope palestine gets the 9th vote for statehood.
They can then take Israel to court for war crimes, Israel is worried about this.
israel would be more accountable for their actions also.

However it looks like Bosnia serbs have been bought off.



What's this guy talking about tourism and agriculture? Not the smartest leadership over there. :rolleyes:
On the contrary, he is the smartest Serb politician atm. Why on earth would Bosnian Serbs vote for another jihadist stronghold? We were in war with such people 15 years ago. Israelis on the other hand, offer economic and political support.
Serbia's politicians are morons who will vote for Fatah's statehood bid, though.

peribsen
11-01-2011, 02:00 PM
Spaniards who are sorry Spain voted in favour of Palestine :facepalm:

Countries voting against, after 53 years of occupation :facepalm:

Netanyahu and the many Israelis who support him :facepalm:

People who still believe the present Israeli administration wants peace or justice, at any time, under any conditions but their own :facepalm:

Getta
11-01-2011, 02:15 PM
On the contrary, he is the smartest Serb politician atm. Why on earth would Bosnian Serbs vote for another jihadist stronghold? We were in war with such people 15 years ago. Israelis on the other hand, offer economic and political support.

valid and justifiable application of orthodox principles

Aloimeh
11-01-2011, 02:17 PM
I hope palestine gets the 9th vote for statehood.
They can then take Israel to court for war crimes, Israel is worried about this.
israel would be more accountable for their actions also.

However it looks like Bosnia serbs have been bought off.



What's this guy talking about tourism and agriculture? Not the smartest leadership over there. :rolleyes:

I'm happy the Bosnian Serbs didn't fold to Muslims pressure. Although it's no consideration Israel deserves (after arming enemies of the Serbs in the 1990s) the alternative of supporting the Muslims would be hypocrisy and cheap revenge at its worst. Hopefully Israel will come to its senses and realize that it made mistakes in that regard.

/derail

Aloimeh
11-01-2011, 02:18 PM
valid and justifiable application of orthodox principles

Are Greek generally pro-Palestinian, and if so, why?

buddyholly
11-01-2011, 02:20 PM
I wouldn't want a state whose chosen leader declares Bin Laden was a hero for his deeds. Someone who said that Bin Laden's attempts to kill me were heroic.

Why should I encourage people who have already said they would rejoice at my death in a terrorist attack?

vucina
11-01-2011, 02:22 PM
valid and justifiable application of orthodox principles

I don't care about christian principles. Turn the other cheek is not my thing.

buddyholly
11-01-2011, 02:23 PM
Why is everyone suddenly posting images of the Jules Rimet cup? Brazil is 3 years away.

vucina
11-01-2011, 02:28 PM
I'm happy the Bosnian Serbs didn't fold to Muslims pressure. Although it's no consideration Israel deserves (after arming enemies of the Serbs in the 1990s) the alternative of supporting the Muslims would be hypocrisy and cheap revenge at its worst. Hopefully Israel will come to its senses and realize that it made mistakes in that regard.

/derail

What are you on about? Israel was criticized heavily for being neutral during the '90. They never condemned the Serbs and they don't recognize Kosovo today. Which is more than fer from their side, considering Serbia recognized Palestine and keeps their "ambassador" in Belgrade.
I know they killed your god, but be more objective.

Getta
11-01-2011, 02:34 PM
Are Greek generally pro-Palestinian, and if so, why?

my stance does not necessarily negate my philosemitism. actually, i've always been a philosemite, and Jews will always have a place in my heart.

the process of sub-groupification of Greeks seems infinite. :D

peribsen
11-01-2011, 03:24 PM
I wouldn't want a state whose chosen leader declares Bin Laden was a hero for his deeds. Someone who said that Bin Laden's attempts to kill me were heroic.

What on earth has this to do with the issue at hand? Or are you implying a whole nation is terrorist?

Why should I encourage people who have already said they would rejoice at my death in a terrorist attack?

Maybe you should read what an ardent antisemite like Moshe Dayan's widow says about the present state of affairs in Israeli politics, I gave the link somewhare in the first page of this thread.

Getta
11-01-2011, 03:48 PM
Maybe you should read what an ardent antisemite like Moshe Dayan's widow says about the present state of affairs in Israeli politics, I gave the link somewhare in the first page of this thread.

you lost me there.

is she an anti-semite? or, she's just a non-zionist?

Pirata.
11-01-2011, 03:50 PM
8. Palau
10. Samoa
11. Solomon Islands
14. Vanuatu

wtf :lol:

buddyholly
11-01-2011, 03:50 PM
Ardent antisemites are best left unread.

Maybe a little Freudian slip there.

buddyholly
11-01-2011, 03:52 PM
What on earth has this to do with the issue at hand? Or are you implying a whole nation is terrorist?





Everything to do with the issue at hand. The ''nation'' elected a terrorist-favouring leadership.

Getta
11-01-2011, 03:52 PM
or, is it just mean sarcasm? :p


i wasn't able to sleep at all last night, and when i haven't slept during the night no good can come to me the day

peribsen
11-01-2011, 04:02 PM
you lost me there.

is she an anti-semite? or, she's just a non-zionist?

Sarcasm

Anyway, for Buddyholly anyone dearing to digress from the official position of the Israeli government is an ardent antisemite, so poor Mrs. Dayan must qualify as one.

fast_clay
11-01-2011, 04:07 PM
wtf :lol:

yep :facepalm: my bet is that in return for dark money they learned how to bend over for uncle sam from big bro australia, the redneck of the south...

abraxas21
12-16-2012, 02:57 AM
Everything to do with the issue at hand. The ''nation'' elected a terrorist-favouring leadership.

nevermind the fact that the palestinian nation is much bigger than the people who live as prisoners of a concentration camp in gaza, it's baffling how ready you are to imply that hamas is terrorist while the israeli regime is merely defending itself.

between hamas terrorism and the IDF terrorism, I'll have my chances with hamas anyday.

abraxas21
12-16-2012, 03:02 AM
a bit late but still worth mentioning.

Israel to build 3,000 settler homes after UN vote The Palestinians have said settlement building must cease before peace talks

Israel has authorised the construction of 3,000 more housing units in occupied East Jerusalem and the West Bank, according to Israeli officials.

It is also speeding up the processing of 1,000 planning permissions.

The decision comes a day after a vote at the UN General Assembly upgraded the Palestinians' status at the UN to that of non-member observer state.

The US said the expansion plan was counterproductive and would make it harder to resume peace talks.

"We reiterate our longstanding opposition to settlements and East Jerusalem construction and announcements," White House spokesman Tommy Vietor said.

Earlier Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas called for an end to settlement building and a return to peace talks.

An Israeli official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said some of the new units would be built between Jerusalem and the settlement of Maaleh Adumim.

Plans to build settlements in the area, known as E1, are strongly opposed by Palestinians, who say the development will cut the West Bank in two, preventing the creation of a contiguous Palestinian state.

Keep reading here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20552391

It's clear to see that Israel isn't interested at all in peace or the development of a two-state solution. As a rogue stealing nation, it just wants more land. The Palestinians are just an inconvenience for them.

buddyholly
12-16-2012, 03:21 AM
nevermind the fact that the palestinian nation is much bigger than the people who live as prisoners of a concentration camp in gaza, it's baffling how ready you are to imply that hamas is terrorist while the israeli regime is merely defending itself.

between hamas terrorism and the IDF terrorism, I'll have my chances with hamas anyday.

Hamas has rejoiced over 9/11. What is baffling about not recognizing people who would dance in the streets if they killed me - or you? The Stockholm syndrome is clearly alive and well.

buddyholly
12-16-2012, 03:23 AM
It's clear to see that Israel isn't interested at all in peace or the development of a two-state solution. . How can there be a two-state solution if Hamas does not recognise Israel? What two states does Hamas have in mind?

Maybe it is time for Hamas to recognise that the West Bank was lost in a war. Israel was playing for keeps.

Kowchi
12-16-2012, 04:01 AM
This conflict has been around forever.

All of it is over RELIGION and LAND. Utter BS. If you ask me. It boils down to people's "Honor". There is 0 understanding or humility, between either nations.

Peace negotiations need to happen ASAP. Aka Israel/Palestine need to convene in an Improved Camp David Accords. (Do your research if you don't know what this is.) So many mistakes were made in the first meeting. The next peace accords need to be better planned and both sides need to be forced to a decision.