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The fate of planet Earth

2003
10-31-2011, 11:43 AM
Do you think the Earth will last forever?

When the sun turns into a big bright red giant do you think it will swallow up the earth?

Obviously it could melt and evaporate all the oceans etc, but the planet might survive, even if most of us dont.

Colonising other planets is an idea, but it would only save us, not our planet.

Do you think our planet is on borrowed time, or it will last forever?

Will a commet eventually get it if nothing else does?

JolánGagó
10-31-2011, 12:29 PM
Science has already answered that.

Chase Visa
10-31-2011, 12:38 PM
\_/. Won't happen for billions of years.

tennizen
10-31-2011, 12:44 PM
I just hope your mustache, preserved in museums up to that point, will be floating in outer space, unharmed and unchanged from its pristine form.

Bilbo
10-31-2011, 12:46 PM
the earth will be completely destroyed after a few billions of years. however, you sound like humans will still exist at this point. humans won't exist anymore when this is happening.

hope this helps.

Time Violation
10-31-2011, 01:32 PM
Do you think the Earth will last forever?

When the sun turns into a big bright red giant do you think it will swallow up the earth?

Obviously it could melt and evaporate all the oceans etc, but the planet might survive, even if most of us dont.

Colonising other planets is an idea, but it would only save us, not our planet.

Do you think our planet is on borrowed time, or it will last forever?

Will a commet eventually get it if nothing else does?

If nature is allowed to run its course, they yes, the Sun will swallow the Earth and that will be it, I don't think anything useful will remain.

However, a civilization few billions years old should be advanced enough to do something about it, long before that happens :)

Johnny Groove
10-31-2011, 02:51 PM
We will surely have colonized other planets by the time the sun swallows the Earth. The real question is what the ultimate fate of the universe is.

Time Violation
10-31-2011, 02:56 PM
We will surely have colonized other planets by the time the sun swallows the Earth. The real question is what the ultimate fate of the universe is.

_hmXrHvmwOM

Snowwy
10-31-2011, 03:02 PM
Do you think the Earth will last forever?

When the sun turns into a big bright red giant do you think it will swallow up the earth?

Obviously it could melt and evaporate all the oceans etc, but the planet might survive, even if most of us dont.

Colonising other planets is an idea, but it would only save us, not our planet.

Do you think our planet is on borrowed time, or it will last forever?

Will a commet eventually get it if nothing else does?

A better question is, what will the fate of the universe be? I don't know, there are some interesting possibilities for that question.

Harmless
10-31-2011, 07:27 PM
This is, by far, the worst thing I've ever written on this forum, but my opinion about this matter is exactly the same as Bilbo's. :questionssanity:

scoobs
10-31-2011, 07:30 PM
We will surely have colonized other planets by the time the sun swallows the Earth. The real question is what the ultimate fate of the universe is.
If we haven't destroyed ourselves and the planet before then, yes.

Gagsquet
10-31-2011, 07:38 PM
I don't think we will colonize others planets. Others habitable planets are too distant.

safin-rules-no.1
10-31-2011, 07:41 PM
If we haven't destroyed ourselves and the planet before then, yes.

Part of me wishes we do, so we don't have a chance to exploit and destroy other planets.

JolánGagó
10-31-2011, 07:48 PM
Mankind days are numbered.

In a few decades machines are taking over, whipe us from the face of the planet and engage in interplanetarian conquest.

Sunset of Age
10-31-2011, 07:58 PM
It's even questionable whether planet Earth will even be able to survive its current severe infection with homo sapiens...

Corey Feldman
10-31-2011, 08:05 PM
earth will be swallowed by a black hole in December next year

so lose your virginity while you can

safin-rules-no.1
10-31-2011, 08:23 PM
earth will be swallowed by a black hole in December next year

so lose your virginity while you can

My arse is on the verge of prolapse so it could be my black hole the earth falls into. Everyone will lose their virginity at once :hearts:

Time Violation
10-31-2011, 08:24 PM
Part of me wishes we do, so we don't have a chance to exploit and destroy other planets.

Still, you aren't going to commit suicide to help saving the planet, right? ;)

I don't think we will colonize others planets. Others habitable planets are too distant.

Too distant for this technology, but probably not so for a better technology. America, Australia and some other places used to be too distant as well, not nearly as much today.

It's even questionable whether planet Earth will even be able to survive its current severe infection with homo sapiens...

I'm sure this planet has survived far worse things in the past. Compared with huge asteriods collisions, super volcanoes and what not, human activity is probably not even junior league.

safin-rules-no.1
10-31-2011, 08:27 PM
Still, you aren't going to commit suicide to help saving the planet, right? ;)



Are you wishing death on me?

Time Violation
10-31-2011, 08:48 PM
Are you wishing death on me?

Nope, just noticing a touch of hypocrisy. Everybody lamenting on the human race destructive influence, yet nobody in their right mind would want to see himself and/or his friends wiped off the face of the Earth. What would be so good about uninhabited Earth anyway? There are already gazillion uninhabited planets all over the universe. :)

abraxas21
10-31-2011, 09:04 PM
This is, by far, the worst thing I've ever written on this forum, but my opinion about this matter is exactly the same as Bilbo's. :questionssanity:

exactly what i was thinking

abraxas21
10-31-2011, 09:37 PM
carlin was a prick but he makes some interesting points here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw

Sunset of Age
10-31-2011, 09:55 PM
I'm sure this planet has survived far worse things in the past. Compared with huge asteriods collisions, super volcanoes and what not, human activity is probably not even junior league.

Those 'incidents' where there when Earth was still in the process of development, and unless you happen to follow the Aloimeh-Line-of-Believing, those happened long before the homo sapiens-infection started off. ;)

Judging on diverse scientific data - even though I realize that there still is a lot of discussion about those and the final word on it isn't yet said - I do fear that the human population might well be speeding up planet Earth's downfall (at least when it comes to environmental factors) and unless something is finally seriously achieved in terms of turning around overpopulation (birth control and education of women!), (over)consumption, downgrading polution and CO2-emission, to name just a few things... uhm. :tape:

JolánGagó
10-31-2011, 10:02 PM
Those 'incidents' where there when Earth was still in the process of development, and unless you happen to follow the Aloimeh-Line-of-Believing, those happened long before the homo sapiens-infection started off. ;)

Judging on diverse scientific data - even though I realize that there still is a lot of discussion about those and the final word on it isn't yet said - I do fear that the human population might well be speeding up planet Earth's downfall (at least when it comes to environmental factors) and unless something is finally seriously achieved in terms of turning around overpopulation (birth control and education of women!), (over)consumption, downgrading polution and CO2-emission, to name just a few things... uhm. :tape:

But man alone cannot destroy the planet. We are destroying the planet's environment and, eventually, may well whipe us ourselves and most of the fauna and flora but the planet will for sure survive us until destroyed by some cosmic event like a collision or, and this is sure to happen, the sun melts the Earth.

Sunset of Age
10-31-2011, 10:07 PM
But man alone cannot destroy the planet. We are destroying the planet's environment and, eventually, may well whipe us ourselves and most of the fauna and flora but the planet will for sure survive us until destroyed by some cosmic event like a collision or, and this is sure to happen, the sun melts the Earth.

Yep.
I just wanted to point out that it's too 'early' to already start speculating about a 'cosmic disaster' some billions of years ahead of time, while our own species is already doing such a 'wonderful' job of (self?-)destruction in our current era. :o

Time Violation
10-31-2011, 10:08 PM
Those 'incidents' where there when Earth was still in the process of development, and unless you happen to follow the Aloimeh-Line-of-Believing, those happened long before the homo sapiens-infection started off. ;)

Well, that is my point. There were devastating things though no humans were involved. Entire animal/plant species were getting extinct, again, with no human "infection". Btw, I don't think I'm going to miss some dinosaur chasing me in the street when I have to go to work :p

Judging on diverse scientific data - even though I realize that there still is a lot of discussion about those and the final word on it isn't yet said - I do fear that the human population might well be speeding up planet Earth's downfall (at least when it comes to environmental factors) and unless something is finally seriously achieved in terms of turning around overpopulation (birth control and education of women!), (over)consumption, downgrading polution and CO2-emission, to name just a few things... uhm. :tape:

Unless humans blow Earth up to smithereens, not sure what downfall is that? South Pole for example wasn't always frozen; if it melts somewhat, is that its downfall or return to one of the previous states? :)

Sunset of Age
10-31-2011, 10:15 PM
Well, that is my point. There were devastating things though no humans were involved. Entire animal/plant species were getting extinct, again, with no human "infection". Btw, I don't think I'm going to miss some dinosaur chasing me in the street when I have to go to work :p

:spit: :lol: Mosquitos at night in one's bedroom are bad enough. ;)
The ONLY animal that I enjoy killing once in a while - unless that particular Mosquito's name happens to be Juan Carlos Ferrero, in that case he'd be most welcome. :p

Unless humans blow Earth up to smithereens, not sure what downfall is that? South Pole for example wasn't always frozen; if it melts somewhat, is that its downfall or return to one of the previous states? :)

Yeah, I know. It's all still a matter of speculation, and as the final word on all of it by proper scientists hasn't yet been said (and I'm pretty sure it never will), we'll just have to hope for PTB making the proper decisions for that matter. Which is questionable just the same.

BTW, I don't want to come across as an Al Gore-adaptee, I follow those kind of statements just as critically as the guys who think that there's 'nothing wrong whatsoever'. I just happen to think that it wouldn't hurt our planet - and all of its inhabitants, whether humans, animals, plants or bacteria - if we'd just show a bit more respect to nature and not always let the powers of economics prevail. If I've worded that correctly, which I doubt. :o

2003
10-31-2011, 11:26 PM
But man alone cannot destroy the planet. We are destroying the planet's environment and, eventually, may well whipe us ourselves and most of the fauna and flora but the planet will for sure survive us until destroyed by some cosmic event like a collision or, and this is sure to happen, the sun melts the Earth.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-sun-will-eventually-engulf-earth-maybe

Nothings seems 100% sure

Topspindoctor
11-03-2011, 01:38 AM
the earth will be completely destroyed after a few billions of years. however, you sound like humans will still exist at this point. humans won't exist anymore when this is happening.

hope this helps.

Humans will be lucky to exist for 1000 more years. We are a cancer of this planet, it will be much better off when another Great Dying happens and after that, the planet is populated by brainless animals.

Seingeist
11-03-2011, 02:03 AM
Humans will be lucky to exist for 1000 more years. We are a cancer of this planet, it will be much better off when another Great Dying happens and after that, the planet is populated by brainless animals.

Taejin, you can add Topspindoctor here to your list of hypocrites.

Pirata.
11-03-2011, 02:10 AM
Btw, I don't think I'm going to miss some dinosaur chasing me in the street when I have to go to work :p

:haha:

Sometimes I think I'd like to be immortal just to see what happens after, like 100 years from now, 1,000 years from now and so on. To see if humanity implodes upon itself or if machines take over, or another galactic species invades. It's just interesting to think about. We argue over clowns and mugs every day on MTF but will in matter in another 100 years? What will become of MTF 10 years from now? 15? 20? 50?

Death scares the shit out of me mostly because it means the definitive end, that you can never come back to see what happens. Sucks :sad:

buddyholly
11-03-2011, 02:14 AM
When earth is gone, what will God do to pass the time?

Pirata.
11-03-2011, 02:18 AM
play tennis :shrug:

buddyholly
11-03-2011, 02:20 AM
Who with?

Pirata.
11-03-2011, 02:27 AM
Jesus :shrug:

Or Satan. I'm sure they could work something out.

out_here_grindin
11-03-2011, 02:34 AM
I imagine heaven would still be intact. Who needs earth when you have the paradise?

Topspindoctor
11-03-2011, 04:56 AM
Taejin, you can add Topspindoctor here to your list of hypocrites.

I am a hypocrite, I admit it. I enjoy easy lifestyle where with minimal amount of work I can eat, sleep, have access to internet and enjoy what I do and I would not change anything. However, I can still see that humans have caused nothing but trouble on this planet. Overpopulation, pollution, wars, ridiculous ideals, which prompted more wars... I am a selfish bastard who doesn't care much about anything, yet I can admit this world would be better off without people :shrug:

Mjau!
11-03-2011, 04:59 AM
I'm a good person! I tried to give my own blood for the benefit of another person the other day. :)

Aloimeh
11-03-2011, 05:14 AM
This earth won't last much longer. I give it a few decades, tops.

The earth is accelerating towards destruction by total conflagration.

Time Violation
11-03-2011, 07:29 AM
This earth won't last much longer. I give it a few decades, tops.

The earth is accelerating towards destruction by total conflagration.

Sure :lol: If I'm still around then, I think I'll bump this thread in a few decades just for lulz :cool:

Aloimeh
11-03-2011, 02:47 PM
Sure :lol: If I'm still around then, I think I'll bump this thread in a few decades just for lulz :cool:

Just you go on believing that.

If you can't see what's going on around the world, you must be blind.

Do read a bit of Otkrovenje. It pays to be mentally ready when the sh!t hits the fan.

buddyholly
11-03-2011, 02:54 PM
Just you go on believing that.

If you can't see what's going on around the world, you must be blind.

Do read a bit of Otkrovenje. It pays to be mentally ready when the sh!t hits the fan.

Compared to just about any other time in history, things are great. Is it you that is blind? Mankind has never had it so good.

Seingeist
11-03-2011, 09:32 PM
This earth won't last much longer. I give it a few decades, tops.

The earth is accelerating towards destruction by total conflagration.

Are you referring to an artificial or natural conflagration?

Time Violation
11-03-2011, 10:09 PM
Just you go on believing that.

If you can't see what's going on around the world, you must be blind.

Do read a bit of Otkrovenje. It pays to be mentally ready when the sh!t hits the fan.

Lol, you are the one who is blind, if you think you can predict the end of the world. Is Harold Camping a good friend of yours? He must be :lol: I recommend both you and your buddy Camping refer to Matthew 24:36 :wavey:

Corey Feldman
11-03-2011, 11:22 PM
Moronholly could start an arguement with his own echo in the swiss Mountains

Aloimeh
11-04-2011, 02:51 AM
Are you referring to an artificial or natural conflagration?

I am talking about God's judgment.

Aloimeh
11-04-2011, 02:52 AM
Lol, you are the one who is blind, if you think you can predict the end of the world. Is Harold Camping a good friend of yours? He must be :lol: I recommend both you and your buddy Camping refer to Matthew 24:36 :wavey:

Luke 17:

26And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

27They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

28Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

29But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

30Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

31In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.

32Remember Lot's wife.

33Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

Sunset of Age
11-04-2011, 02:54 AM
Luke 17:

Sure. vamos. :facepalm:

Aloimeh
11-04-2011, 03:00 AM
Sure. vamos. :facepalm:

Oh, right, you're from the Netherlands, that explains everything. :rolleyes:

Seingeist
11-04-2011, 03:09 AM
I am talking about God's judgment.

OK. I wasn't sure if you were making reference to global warming or to a global war, etc. Of course, neither of those latter items would be mutually exclusive with God's judgment.

I tend to shy away from eschatological predictions because most of the relevant Biblical passages are highly ambiguous. This is what makes it possible for imbeciles like Jack Van Impe to read news headlines every week and offer strained doomsday interpretations of them through various verses.

Sunset of Age
11-04-2011, 03:17 AM
Oh, right, you're from the Netherlands, that explains everything. :rolleyes:

Oh, so it does?
Tells me enough about you being highly prejudiced, and as such that I cannot take you in any way seriously anymore - if I ever did.

Nothing new, I've know that all too well ever since we've had a discussion about the Epstein/Barr viral infection ("mono") not that long ago - you 'believed' that such an infection never reoccurs, whereas science says quite the opposite.
In other words: :bigwave:

If I may say one thing in this entire discussion, it it this:
I FEEL PITY for ALL OF your future PATIENTS whom you will ever meet as a doctor, as you seem to be totally fuelled by your silly 'beliefs', in stead of having an open mind, and judge on what is the best for your patients to undergo treatment.
Rather disgusting, if I may say so.

out_here_grindin
11-04-2011, 03:26 AM
Ignore Matthew 24:36 but do listen to Luke. Making a collage out of the bible verses you want in order to fit your beliefs. Who do you think you are? Martin Luther?

Seingeist
11-04-2011, 03:34 AM
I FEEL PITY for ALL OF your future PATIENTS whom you will ever meet as a doctor, as you seem to be totally fuelled by your silly 'beliefs', in stead of having an open mind, and judge on what is the best for your patients to undergo treatment.
Rather disgusting, if I may say so.

And I suppose that this is the type of comment and thinking that one might expect from an "open-minded" person?

Sunset of Age
11-04-2011, 03:38 AM
And I suppose that this is the type of comment and thinking that one might expect from an "open-minded" person?

Yes, exactly that.

:wavey:

Aloimeh
11-04-2011, 03:42 AM
Oh, so it does?
Tells me enough about you being highly prejudiced, and as such that I cannot take you in any way seriously anymore - if I ever did.

Nothing new, I've know that all too well ever since we've had a discussion about the Epstein/Barr viral infection ("mono") not that long ago - you 'believed' that such an infection never reoccurs, whereas science says quite the opposite. In other words: :bigwave:

If I may say one thing in this entiire discussion, it it this:
I FEEL PITY for ALL OF your future PATIENTS whom you will ever meet as a doctor, as you seem to be totally fuelled by your silly 'beliefs', in stead of having an open mind, and judge on what is the best for your patients to undergo treatment.
Rather disgusting, if I may say so.

Wow, hurt that much? I've never seen you so angry before. And just because I said "Netherlands, makes sense"? OK.
Moving on: I'm not prejudiced against Dutch people. I have a deep respect for all their great historical accomplishments: Erasmus and the Textus Receptus, the Dutch painters, scientists, etc. Strong work ethic, historically strong committed Protestant Christians.

What I don't respect is the laissez faire attitude of the past several decades which has been a breeding ground for 'shrooms, drugs, prostitutes, and "hate speech" laws vis-a-vis Wilders et. al.

And that's why I said I wasn't surprised at your dismissal of my post, because it seems to me that most of the Netherlands today is very much a post-Christian society. It's also a post-God society.

EBV virus? You have a good memory. All herpesviruses can re-activate. They cannot reinfect. EBV is known to have links to lupus, perhaps MS, but also to nasopharyngeal carcinoma, Burkitt's lymphoma, etc. But I've never heard of a person getting "mono" several times in their lives, unless of course once it was an EBV infection and the second time it was a CMV infection, which is something different altogether.

So yes, I do affirm my earlier statements that Federer was BS-ing, and we've seen from the US Open 2011 that he doesn't shy away from dirty tricks, especially when it comes to Djokovic.

As for my future patients, excuse me but you have no idea what my bedside manner is like. The way I discourse with you - a (as far as I know) fit, healthy woman looking to bash Christianity and theism - on a tennis forum, is completely different from the way I would deal with an ill patient dealing with debilitating illness, fighting for their life, or merely inconvenienced by an infection. And I have no idea why the way I state my opinions on social issues would have anything to do with bedside manner at all.

Aloimeh
11-04-2011, 03:45 AM
Ignore Matthew 24:36 but do listen to Luke. Making a collage out of the bible verses you want in order to fit your beliefs. Who do you think you are? Martin Luther?

Who said I was ignoring it? We don't know the hour.

I would never say the earth is absolutely going to end at a particular date. Or even in a particular decade, year, century, or millennium. We simply don't know.

On the other hand, we can see the certain pre-conditions for the Tribulation are coming about that had not been true 10 or 30 or 100 years ago. For example, the regathering of Israel (the nation) to Palestine. The Temple Mount is once again in Jewish hands. Then there's the Internet and the communication age, which enables virtually instantaneous transmission of information. Highly relevant to prophecies in Revelation. Then there's a worldwide (literally this time, not just Rome or the Middle East, but the entire world) economic crisis, which is affecting all the major current and historical centers of power (from China to the New World, from the Middle East to Europe and Russia). Then there's all these revolutions in the Middle East, which soften the area to the penetration of new ideologies and political forces.

Sunset of Age
11-04-2011, 03:46 AM
Ignore Matthew 24:36 but do listen to Luke. Making a collage out of the bible verses you want in order to fit your beliefs. Who do you think you are? Martin Luther?

Sorry, I've read them all.

And I disgard all of it as being total nonsense. Allow me my opinion - I personally see nothing wrong with all of us just rotting away and bringing back our cells back to Planet Earth once we die, nothing more, nothing less - and I will accept yours.

Just don't give me this garbage that I am 'evil' because of me being a Dutchie, or even worse - because I am an atheist.

Aloimeh
11-04-2011, 04:09 AM
OK. I wasn't sure if you were making reference to global warming or to a global war, etc. Of course, neither of those latter items would be mutually exclusive with God's judgment.

I tend to shy away from eschatological predictions because most of the relevant Biblical passages are highly ambiguous. This is what makes it possible for imbeciles like Jack Van Impe to read news headlines every week and offer strained doomsday interpretations of them through various verses.

I think Revelation can be analyzed and that it's not necessarily even the hardest book of the Bible. Earlier this year I led a Bible study on it, and I prepared myself by listening to old recorded sermons on it (about 40 in all). There's a Serbian pastor called Simo Ralevic who made over 150 sermons just on Revelation. I wish there was a way for me to translate them all so English speakers would have access to his sermons as well.

out_here_grindin
11-04-2011, 04:11 AM
Sorry, I've read them all.

And I disgard all of it as being total nonsense. Allow me my opinion - I personally see nothing wrong with all of us just rotting away and bringing back our cells back to Planet Earth once we die, nothing more, nothing less - and I will accept yours.

Just don't give me this garbage that I am 'evil' because of me being a Dutchie, or even worse - because I am an atheist.

my post was not directed to you

Seingeist
11-04-2011, 04:11 AM
Just don't give me this garbage that I am 'evil' because of me being a Dutchie, or even worse - because I am an atheist.

Would that be at all akin to the sort of "garbage" that you gave Aloimeh about being "highly prejudiced," "not to be taken seriously," having "silly beliefs," "close-minded," suggesting that he's unfit to be a doctor, and "rather disgusting?" (and all of that just in the last few posts!)

And when he simply laments the moral/political turn that the Netherlands as a culture has taken, you bristle and tell others to stop spewing garbage?

Your conspicuous hypocrisy undermines you, Sunset.

Aloimeh
11-04-2011, 04:15 AM
my post was not directed to you

I see some of the mutual gnashing of teeth has had a head start on this thread. You can wait until the smell of brimstone fills your nose, you know.

Nothing like two otherwise cooperative bashers crossing wires and directing their venom at themselves rather than their intended target.

Seingeist
11-04-2011, 04:23 AM
I think Revelation can be analyzed and that it's not necessarily even the hardest book of the Bible. Earlier this year I led a Bible study on it, and I prepared myself by listening to old recorded sermons on it (about 40 in all). There's a Serbian pastor called Simo Ralevic who made over 150 sermons just on Revelation. I wish there was a way for me to translate them all so English speakers would have access to his sermons as well.

Fair enough, and I certainly do not pretend to any kind of expertise. Your own study on the topic far exceeds my own.

Nevertheless, from my own reading of Revelation, I am simply not comfortable constructing any kind of thorough or precise picture of the end times.

But I do not mean to say that such a construction is necessarily impossible or invalid; I merely mean to confess some epistemological discomfort at the prospect. :)

Aloimeh
11-04-2011, 04:26 AM
Fair enough, and I certainly do not pretend to any kind of expertise. Your own study on the topic far exceeds my own.

Nevertheless, from my own reading of Revelation thus far, I am simply not comfortable constructing any kind of thorough or precise picture of the end times.

But I do not mean to say that such a construction is necessarily impossible or invalid; I merely mean to confess some epistemological discomfort at the prospect. :)

Speaking very generally, I'd say one of the great problems in understanding Revelation is not being sufficiently versed in the Old Testament. There are so many references to the Old Testament prophets - whether it's to the Psalms or Zechariah or Isaiah or Daniel or Joel or Ezekiel - that you simply cannot make anything of Revelation without having those texts at your fingerprints and knowing exactly where to look and how it is relevant. Aside from the first three chapters, which are written in a more New Testament style and address the churches of Asia Minor, it's really very much a Jewish book and concerns Israel first and foremost and then the Gentiles. Other than the letters, the Church basically doesn't show up until near the end (marriage supper of the Lamb).

out_here_grindin
11-04-2011, 04:31 AM
I see some of the mutual gnashing of teeth has had a head start on this thread. You can wait until the smell of brimstone fills your nose, you know.

Nothing like two otherwise cooperative bashers crossing wires and directing their venom at themselves rather than their intended target.

o boy references to hell. Good ammo to have in your back pocket when someone sends you a mild post about cafeteria bible.

Aloimeh
11-04-2011, 04:34 AM
o boy references to hell. Good ammo to have in your back pocket when someone sends you a mild post about cafeteria bible.

I was pointing out the Flying Dutchwoman who flew into a fit of rage at me and took out her bile on you.

And I'm the farthest thing from a cafeteria Christian, thank you very much.

out_here_grindin
11-04-2011, 04:41 AM
Every christian is a cafeteria christian to an extent. Because no denomination is 100% supported by the bible. There are large disagreements about certain verses. It's all about interpretation.

Aloimeh
11-04-2011, 04:43 AM
Every christian is a cafeteria christian to an extent. Because no denomination is 100% supported by the bible. There are large disagreements about certain verses. It's all about interpretation.

Multiple interpretations doesn't mean there isn't a correct interpretation for those verses.

The fact that Geoffrey Dahmer "interpreted" necrophilia and murder differently than you or I do doesn't mean there are multiple equally-valid viewpoints on necrophilia and murder.

shiaben
11-04-2011, 05:22 AM
We are sophisticated creatures, but I don't think our purpose was ever to colonize other planets.

Almost sounds alien like >_>

Lopez
11-04-2011, 07:55 AM
Didn't know that the rapture was coming in MY lifetime :eek:

!VamosRafa!
11-05-2011, 11:29 AM
Yeah, the World has passed it's peak and will never win a Slam again.
Our planet is a useless mug and should retire or be destroyed.

!VamosRafa!
11-05-2011, 11:30 AM
lol jk, seriously, who cares? Nothing lasts forever so our planet will die eventually :shrug:
We wont be alive when it happens so no big deal really...