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many guys withdrew from madrid maters!

Black Adam
10-14-2004, 04:35 PM
there are rumours about andy , lleyton , carlos and guga withdrawing from madrid :confused: :confused: :confused: :sad: is that true????????!!!!!!!
this then means henman is seeded second .

jtipson
10-14-2004, 04:38 PM
Yes, all true.

Black Adam
10-14-2004, 04:39 PM
thats bad news....... a final between henman and roger on carpet isn't that bad after all

Rogiman
10-14-2004, 04:39 PM
Henman, second... :tape:

TennisLurker
10-14-2004, 04:39 PM
it is indoor hard, not carpet

TennisLurker
10-14-2004, 04:40 PM
I think

jtipson
10-14-2004, 04:40 PM
Yup, Greenset (at least it was last year).

Black Adam
10-14-2004, 04:45 PM
if that the case the seedings will be like this:
1.roger
2.henman
3.agassi
4. safin or gaudio

safin is supposed to be better than gaudio on hard and fast courts so we are most liikely to get roger vs marat in the semis............... safin and agassi now REALLY have got their chances to make it to Houston TMC :cool:

Black Adam
10-14-2004, 04:49 PM
it is indoor hard, not carpet

gee i do not know why i always thought it was on hard...............hey i am not gonna be surpirised if roger skips madrid too. :eek:

Havok
10-14-2004, 04:50 PM
:haha: What a terrible field for a TMS event.:o I feel bad for the people who put on this tournament.:(

jtipson
10-14-2004, 04:52 PM
if that the case the seedings will be like this:
1.roger
2.henman
3.agassi
4. safin or gaudio

safin is supposed to be better than gaudio on hard and fast courts so we are most liikely to get roger vs marat in the semis............... safin and agassi now REALLY have got their chances to make it to Houston TMC :cool:

Fourth seed will be Gaudio since he's ranked above Safin.
5. Safin
6. Nalbandian
7. Massu
8. Ferrero

...provided nobody else pulls out, that is.

adeegee
10-14-2004, 04:52 PM
oh my god rogers gonna walk it

adeegee
10-14-2004, 04:57 PM
roddicks got a bad right knee i've been told

lsy
10-14-2004, 04:58 PM
Why did Andy and Lleyton withdraw? :confused:

Aren't they "fighting" for their no.2 position?

Black Adam
10-14-2004, 05:01 PM
the fight will continue in paris and houston............ they are likely to meet there but andy plays in stolkhom plus DC final whereas hewitt is only got two tournaments left this year......... so i think andy can get the advantage by winning stolkhom.

Rogiman
10-14-2004, 05:04 PM
Why did Andy and Lleyton withdraw? :confused:

Aren't they "fighting" for their no.2 position?


Duckboy explained his retirement by having neither backhand nor net game.
Hewitt got glued to the baseline in Tokyo and missed his flight consequently.

joeb_uk
10-14-2004, 05:04 PM
What's everyone's excuses for pulling out?
Handing fed another title ;)

jtipson
10-14-2004, 05:06 PM
Why did Andy and Lleyton withdraw? :confused:

Aren't they "fighting" for their no.2 position?

I doubt they are bothered about being number two, especially since one of them has finished top dog for each of the past three years.

What they should be worried about is the seeding for Melbourne of course, because number three could end up in the top half, which could damage their campaign for the AO title. Possibly.

lsy
10-14-2004, 05:14 PM
What they should be worried about is the seeding for Melbourne of course, because number three could end up in the top half, which could damage their campaign for the AO title. Possibly.

That should be good motivation I believe.

I'm just surprised that they both withdrew from this suddenly? Wasn't Andy playing in some exhibition recently and he flew all the way to Bkk for a small tournament? Why then withdrew from this TMS???

Or of course we can just take Rogiman's reason for this decision that I don't understand ;)

adeegee
10-14-2004, 05:20 PM
Can i just ask, I'm pretty new to this forum but i've noticed that there's an unbelievably large amount of people that don't like roddick. personally he's one of my favourite players along with nadal and coria, not necessarily for the way they play but coz i like players that give 100% and have a bit of character and attitude. I find roddick great to watch even tho his game isn't the most exciting, i was just wondering what people's reasons were for not liking him. is it coz he's american?

mitalidas
10-14-2004, 05:20 PM
Why did Andy and Lleyton withdraw? :confused:
Aren't they "fighting" for their no.2 position?

I think they're each fighting to be no. 3 so they can bypass Rogi till the finals of the AO

EDIT: jtipson, just saw your post. I thikn they've internalized the drawbacks of being #2

mitalidas
10-14-2004, 05:27 PM
Can i just ask, I'm pretty new to this forum but i've noticed that there's an unbelievably large amount of people that don't like roddick. personally he's one of my favourite players along with nadal and coria, not necessarily for the way they play but coz i like players that give 100% and have a bit of character and attitude. I find roddick great to watch even tho his game isn't the most exciting, i was just wondering what people's reasons were for not liking him. is it coz he's american?

i have also wondered about this. i think reasons are diverse (just glance through the forums on "Who do you hate most" and "Who is the most arrogant" and such things, and you know, you see that he wins those polls)

Adegee, I would suggest you start a new thread "What is the Main Reason you Dislike Roddick", it might illuminate all of us who read this and dont know.

alfonsojose
10-14-2004, 05:30 PM
Can i just ask, I'm pretty new to this forum but i've noticed that there's an unbelievably large amount of people that don't like roddick. personally he's one of my favourite players along with nadal and coria, not necessarily for the way they play but coz i like players that give 100% and have a bit of character and attitude. I find roddick great to watch even tho his game isn't the most exciting, i was just wondering what people's reasons were for not liking him. is it coz he's american?
:speakles:

Don't ask that. The trolls :ignore: ... they, THEY are coming !!! :bolt: :scared: *picking children, women and Rainer's poster*

adeegee
10-14-2004, 05:31 PM
it doesn't bother me too much i'm just really surprised. i think he's one of the most sporting players around, he applauds opponents shots the whole time and is always graceful in defeat. i dont think he comes across as arrogant i just think he's a confident guy and he has every right to be. he has the odd moan at umpire's but they're usually very entertaining, mcenroe had a bad reputation when he did it, but now when he does it on the seniors tour he is loved for it. maybe when andy retires he'll get some of the credit he deserves, i think its only a matter of time before he improves his net game and causes roger a lot more problems than he is at the moment

lsy
10-14-2004, 05:34 PM
Adegee, I would suggest you start a new thread "What is the Main Reason you Dislike Roddick", it might illuminate all of us who read this and dont know.

Pleasee......don't start another of such thread :help: we already have more than enough of such, just do a search.

RPH
10-14-2004, 05:36 PM
Henman 2nd seed :tape:
Gaudio 4th seed in a masters event :help: :haha: :o

Well if Ferrero wants to do a repeat of last year this is a huge chance but I seriously doubt it

Wulfram
10-14-2004, 05:39 PM
oh my god rogers gonna walk it

Roger is 0-5 vs Henman indoors, you know. Of course Tim will have to win some matches for that to be relevant, which is more than he has done in Madrid before.

Chloe le Bopper
10-14-2004, 05:52 PM
Can i just ask, I'm pretty new to this forum but i've noticed that there's an unbelievably large amount of people that don't like roddick. personally he's one of my favourite players along with nadal and coria, not necessarily for the way they play but coz i like players that give 100% and have a bit of character and attitude. I find roddick great to watch even tho his game isn't the most exciting, i was just wondering what people's reasons were for not liking him. is it coz he's american?
Lot's of people hate Coria too. It MUST be because he's Argentine!

Havok
10-14-2004, 06:08 PM
Ack Ferrero seeded 8? That says it all.:haha:

Rogiman
10-14-2004, 06:11 PM
Ack Ferrero seeded 8? That says it all.:haha:

You're now hero, when Juanqui Lover is asleep.
Prepare for tomorrow: :mad: :shout:

RPH
10-14-2004, 06:18 PM
Lot's of people hate Coria too. It MUST be because he's Argentine!

No problem with his nationality or his sexy wife :drool: :kiss: :inlove: :lick: just everything else about him :mad:

Fee
10-14-2004, 06:38 PM
there are rumours about andy , lleyton , carlos and guga withdrawing from madrid

You know, I think I'm a little bit offended by this post. I've been posting entry and withdrawal lists in the tournament threads for how long now? (Perhaps some people never leave the GM forum?) Were they ever wrong? Of course not, because those lists come from the the ATP, via the playerzone (which is the private system used by players and tournament officials to track tournament entries). And now everyone knows that I've just been copying the info over from the forums at Steve G, but hey, it saves y'all from going over there because those boards are very dry and there isn't a whole lot of conversation happening there. So, please read the threads in the Tournament forums if you want to know whose in and whose out, officially, and you can refrain from using the word 'rumour' when it is 'fact.'

Satanic Pasteur
10-14-2004, 06:50 PM
I smell a draw like that

(1)federer
(6)nalbandian

(5)safin
(3)agassi


(4)gaudio
(8)ferrero

(7)massu
(2)henman

This one would be awful :eek:

Nymeria
10-14-2004, 06:53 PM
henman second :eek: Even while it must be true I don't want to believe it :p Henman 2 :eek:
Well I don't mind is who's seeded second, third etc. Go Roger :p

BaselineSmash
10-14-2004, 09:00 PM
You know, I think I'm a little bit offended by this post. I've been posting entry and withdrawal lists in the tournament threads for how long now? (Perhaps some people never leave the GM forum?) Were they ever wrong? Of course not, because those lists come from the the ATP, via the playerzone (which is the private system used by players and tournament officials to track tournament entries). And now everyone knows that I've just been copying the info over from the forums at Steve G, but hey, it saves y'all from going over there because those boards are very dry and there isn't a whole lot of conversation happening there. So, please read the threads in the Tournament forums if you want to know whose in and whose out, officially, and you can refrain from using the word 'rumour' when it is 'fact.'

In the divine comedy that is life, posts like this aren't necessary.

Socket
10-14-2004, 09:03 PM
I smell a draw like that

(1)federer
(6)nalbandian

(5)safin
(3)agassi


(4)gaudio
(8)ferrero

(7)massu
(2)henman

This one would be awful :eek:

I'd pay to see these matches, especially Safin/Agassi (but only if the Good Safin showed up).

Space Cowgirl
10-14-2004, 09:08 PM
Duckboy explained his retirement by having neither backhand nor net game.
Hewitt got glued to the baseline in Tokyo and missed his flight consequently.


:lol:

lina_seta
10-14-2004, 09:37 PM
it doesn't bother me too much i'm just really surprised. i think he's one of the most sporting players around, he applauds opponents shots the whole time and is always graceful in defeat. i dont think he comes across as arrogant i just think he's a confident guy and he has every right to be. he has the odd moan at umpire's but they're usually very entertaining, mcenroe had a bad reputation when he did it, but now when he does it on the seniors tour he is loved for it. maybe when andy retires he'll get some of the credit he deserves, i think its only a matter of time before he improves his net game and causes roger a lot more problems than he is at the moment

oro... r we talking about ANDY RODDICK lol :rolls:
"he applauds opponents shots the whole time"- ok.. that comes more as SARCASM and mockery the way he does it...
"i dont think he comes across as arrogant " ohmm have u read the thread titled whos most arrogant.. think u might find some answers there
"only a matter of time before he improves his net game and causes roger a lot more problems than he is at the moment" whoo? :haha: did someone missed the h2h lead of 8-1 and a recent bagel of 6-0, roddick without his serve is practically weaponless (as he was in BK)

if u suppose posters dont like him cuz his "american" (americans dislike him too) then i must suppose ur a young teenager...

PD: hehe i do strooonnggllyyy dislike americans (with exceptions)

Rogiman
10-14-2004, 09:43 PM
Oh, com'on lina, you know I'm a hard core DuckHunter, but let's not make asses out of ourselves...
She was asking an innocent question, nothing malicious whatsoever, no need giving her a hard time here.

He does applaud opponents good shots, you can't take that away from him.

TheBoiledEgg
10-14-2004, 09:45 PM
Hewitt needs rest, Kim has tired him out
thats why he also needed a few months break last season :tape:

Henman #2 seed :rolls: :tape:
please give him Fish in r1

lina_seta
10-14-2004, 09:48 PM
heheh i dont MEAN to be harsh.. but it comes out the other way and since she asked i answered.... nothing serious...
whos making what out of whoselves?

Rogiman
10-14-2004, 09:53 PM
I assume "we" is the plural form for "I"
and "asses" is the plural form for "ass"
Any innovations I wasn't aware of?

misyou25
10-14-2004, 09:56 PM
Duckboy explained his retirement by having neither backhand nor net game.
Hewitt got glued to the baseline in Tokyo and missed his flight consequently.
no flight or what???? :confused:

Fedex
10-14-2004, 10:08 PM
Hewitt needs rest, Kim has tired him out
thats why he also needed a few months break last season :tape:

Henman #2 seed :rolls: :tape:
please give him Fish in r1
Actually, I doubt fatboy fish would beat Henman. If Enqvist is playing this tournement, he would be tough for Henman in the 1st rd. I think, off the top of my head, Enqvist is 4-2 lifetime vs. Henman. I cant think of any other players he could face in the 1st rd. that he has a losing record against.

lina_seta
10-14-2004, 10:12 PM
misyou25.. i guess that was just a joke hehehe (hewitt can always take another plane!)
rogiman wheres "we" in it... anyways u dont have to teach me grammar!
going to sleep now...

Domino
10-14-2004, 10:19 PM
Actually, I doubt fatboy fish would beat Henman. If Enqvist is playing this tournement, he would be tough for Henman in the 1st rd. I think, off the top of my head, Enqvist is 4-2 lifetime vs. Henman. I cant think of any other players he could face in the 1st rd. that he has a losing record against.

Fish has a winning record on Henman, and he beat him in Madrid!

On current form, we could argue that Henman is obviously playing better, but Fish deat beat him in this very tournament, so I see no reason why he cant do it again.

alfonsojose
10-14-2004, 10:32 PM
Hewitt needs rest, Kim has tired him out
thats why he also needed a few months break last season :tape:

Henman #2 seed :rolls: :tape:
please give him Fish in r1

When Kim sucks Lleyton she probably uses her right hand. She tried to get her left fist in his ass ... and look what happened :tape:

Rogiman
10-14-2004, 10:35 PM
Man you're flat out sick.... :tape:

Adam Thirnis
10-14-2004, 10:45 PM
Hewitt needs rest, Kim has tired him out
thats why he also needed a few months break last season :tape:


This is so true. Hewitt's game has improved in recent months when Kim has been busy trying to get fit. But now that she is out for a while again with nothing to do she's going to be very demanding of poor Leytoin. Expect a slide in the rankings.

jtipson
10-14-2004, 11:03 PM
Fourth seed will be Gaudio since he's ranked above Safin.
5. Safin
6. Nalbandian
7. Massu
8. Ferrero

...provided nobody else pulls out, that is.


Spoke too soon, Gaudio's withdrawn, so everyone's bumped up. Johansson now has a quarter-final seed :)

RonE
10-14-2004, 11:15 PM
Oh man, what is going on over there?! Has some kind of plague broken out in Madrid for so many people to pull out like this?

Frooty_Bazooty
10-14-2004, 11:18 PM
my god, whats with all the complaining? since when did Hewitt and Roddick become the life and soul of masters series tournaments?

anyway, what about Canas, Haas, the 2 johansons, robredo, schuettler,lopez etc? i dont think this is a tournament to give up on at all.

this henman bashing is a bit unfair. indoors is arguably his best surface and he has proved himself on it year after year. i think the no 2 is justified

Frooty_Bazooty
10-14-2004, 11:19 PM
When Kim sucks Lleyton she probably uses her right hand. She tried to get her left fist in his ass ... and look what happened :tape:

i bet when she's sucking Lleyton and its getting to the final stages, she chokes... :tape:

Rogiman
10-14-2004, 11:21 PM
Oh man, what is going on over there?! Has some kind of plague broken out in Madrid for so many people to pull out like this?

They thought they were about to meet Ronaldinho in Madrid. :cool:

When they found out he played for Barcelona they couldn't handle it. :bigcry:

jtipson
10-14-2004, 11:26 PM
i bet when she's sucking Lleyton and its getting to the final stages, she chokes... :tape:

Ugh. Do you mind, you two? I'd prefer not to throw up my dinner whilst I'm reading a normal tennis thread.

RonE
10-14-2004, 11:29 PM
They thought they were about to meet Ronaldinho in Madrid. :cool:

When they found out he played for Barcelona they couldn't handle it. :bigcry:


:haha: :haha: גדול!!!!!

Corey Feldman
10-14-2004, 11:31 PM
Actually, I doubt fatboy fish would beat Henman. If Enqvist is playing this tournement, he would be tough for Henman in the 1st rd. I think, off the top of my head, Enqvist is 4-2 lifetime vs. Henman. I cant think of any other players he could face in the 1st rd. that he has a losing record against.
canas :scratch: ljubicic ..

Rogiman
10-14-2004, 11:32 PM
:haha: :haha: גדול!!!!!
תודה, אח שלי, גם אני אוהב אותך! :wavey:

RonE
10-14-2004, 11:40 PM
תודה, אח שלי, גם אני אוהב אותך! :wavey:

תודה, גם אני אותך.
הברווזים לעומת זאת לא כל-כך אוהבים אותך אני חושב :scared:

Ahem, anyway, back to the topic- if you were a betting man/woman, who would you say would be the next to withdraw? At the moment, it seems anyone.

alfonsojose
10-15-2004, 12:34 AM
i bet when she's sucking Lleyton and its getting to the final stages, she chokes... :tape:
C'mon :drool: :lick:

LiZpHaIr
10-15-2004, 12:39 AM
Timmy is soooo gonna win this one.

Deboogle!.
10-15-2004, 12:50 AM
My word! Only half of the top 10 there... this tournament is gonna be messed up, you can just tell LMFAO

People have said Hewitt just wants to take a break, Andy supposedly has a sore right knee but I think he just pulled out for no great reason (he says he wants to be 100% for DC as if it will matter. I suppose it makes sense to take care of a little nagging injury but :o nonetheless).... what's wrong with Gaudio? This is :cuckoo:

alfonsojose
10-15-2004, 12:53 AM
Gaudio doesn't want to be the bitch at TMC :tape: so he's going to rest and train really hard.

Rogiman
10-15-2004, 12:55 AM
He'll get bageled anyway, it's his destiny to be the bitch! :devil:

Fee
10-15-2004, 01:53 AM
Keep an eye on Henman. Isn't his shoulder sore?

makro120
10-15-2004, 02:03 AM
Am I the only one who finds it extremly strange that he withdraws from MAdrid and play Stocholm open next week anyway, a much smaller tournament where no one in the top 5 will likely be (even with rumors of Andre which I hope will be true). Is he scared of these hard surface guys, you know Hewitt, Henman, Safin, Johansson, Agassi and above anyone else Federer? Against the rest of the top 5, he is loosing 19-4 and he isn't leading against any great hard court player (top 10 player).

Andy is great winning against bad players, but against the top guns he just isn't enought. So now I will probably have to see this guy go and win Stockholm open. If not Johansson can stop him...

MAURO
10-15-2004, 02:24 AM
Fourth seed will be Gaudio since he's ranked above Safin.
5. Safin
6. Nalbandian
7. Massu
8. Ferrero

...provided nobody else pulls out, that is.

i hope will not a QF between Federer-Nalbandian

Chloe le Bopper
10-15-2004, 02:37 AM
I don't understand why people are being hard on Roddick. After watching Ferrero burn himself out last year I'd say that Roddick is smart for dropping Madrid, whatever his reasons.

Deboogle!.
10-15-2004, 02:41 AM
Andy is great winning against bad players, but against the top guns he just isn't enought. So now I will probably have to see this guy go and win Stockholm open. If not Johansson can stop him...

Yea his win against Marat a couple weeks ago was awful :rolleyes: The head-to-head statistics against people like Lleyton and Andre lie, anyway, as many of their early wins were in Andy's first year on tour. But whatever, you think what you want :)

Anyway, I would not be surprised to see him pull out of both Stockholm and Paris, too, though he is still entered in them according to what his site posted today. But if you don't like him you shouldn't really care anyway :)

tennischick
10-15-2004, 02:49 AM
now the Duck (sez Bunkstah) has a sore knee. i thought it was a sore elbow? :confused:

Billabong
10-15-2004, 02:50 AM
oh OMG... what a field;)!

Chloe le Bopper
10-15-2004, 03:20 AM
now the Duck (sez Bunkstah) has a sore knee. i thought it was a sore elbow? :confused:
True, he could at least keep his injuries straight. I can just imagine the conversation going on with Brad: "Andy, you dumbass! We were saving the knee injury for Stockholm!"

Regardless, I think he's doing the right thing by not playing.

(It may be his fans/the media screwing up his injuries and not him, but whatever)

Havok
10-15-2004, 03:48 AM
I think the "bum knee" is another injury tagged onto a bit of a sore elbow already. I don't think they dismissed the elbow problem and then just threw it over to his knee.

makro120
10-15-2004, 04:08 AM
Ok, against Hewitt many were in the early days of his career, which shouldn't really matter as there is only 1 year between them and besides that Hewitt beat him infront of his home crowd!

But Agassi owns Roddick 2003 forward, Henman does it too (never faced young Roddick and leads 3-1). Those are really old players, but still manage to beat Roddick praticaly everytime they face each other. I shouldn't even have to mention Federer who destroys Roddick every year, in USA, in grand slams, in every surface (ok, Roddick is lucky enought to never have faced Fed on clay!), in any condition...

So, don't deny Roddick has a problem. I only rate his amazing victory against Nalbandian high. Safin and Johansson are close amtches, but Roddick most often looses close matches against good players...

Roddick will have alot to prrof before even beeing called the 2nd best tennis player in the world, like beating Hewitt in an important match (GS semifinals, master series final). Hewitt has accomplished much more in his career, so I don't see why everyone are so obsessed about Roddick as Federer's closest competitor.

alfonsojose
10-15-2004, 04:10 AM
He'll withdraw from Paris with a sore beak *quak* :tape:

Billabong
10-15-2004, 04:13 AM
alfonso;)!

alfonsojose
10-15-2004, 04:18 AM
"Brad, it really hurts" :awww: :tape:

Domino
10-15-2004, 04:22 AM
At the very least, Hewitt gains 75 entry points on Roddick, not that it is that much anyway.

...

Alfonso, are you bored?

mitalidas
10-15-2004, 04:22 AM
Gaudio? This is :cuckoo:

:eek:
Debstah, never seen an Avatar quite to the point like yours! :o

alfonsojose
10-15-2004, 04:26 AM
Alfonso, are you bored?

Not at all, :confused:. Why?, what do u have for me, Hetero married man with gorgeous eyes :aplot: ? We won't tell her ;)

alfonsojose
10-15-2004, 04:28 AM
To be honest .. i am :awww:

Lee
10-15-2004, 04:30 AM
To be honest .. i am :awww:

:hug: Alfonso :hug:

alfonsojose
10-15-2004, 04:35 AM
Lee :bigcry: :hug:

Domino
10-15-2004, 04:41 AM
Not at all, :confused:. Why?, what do u have for me, Hetero married man with gorgeous eyes :aplot: ? We won't tell her ;)

Lol, I have nothing for you other than friendship, at best. Sorry, no hard feelings? ;) :hug:

alfonsojose
10-15-2004, 04:52 AM
Lol, I have nothing for you other than friendship, at best. Sorry, no hard feelings? ;) :hug:

Not at all :hug: . I think you're a handsome guy but that's all. ;) You're :cool:

Deboogle!.
10-15-2004, 04:58 AM
fonso!!!! HAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!

:eek:
Debstah, never seen an Avatar quite to the point like yours! :o

Well, he deserves it right now ;)

MerchantWanker
10-15-2004, 07:07 AM
He'll get bageled anyway, it's his destiny to be the bitch! :devil:

If he wins a match, then it's like the winning the tournament. If you think he'll be as bad as Berasategui in 94, then you have another thing coming.

There are slightly more important things for Gaudio at the moment, than to play tennis at this time.

Ferrero Forever
10-15-2004, 09:39 AM
Ack Ferrero seeded 8? That says it all.:haha:
YES, glad you warned him, Rogiman. I'd like to know what is so funny about ferrero being seeded 7 now that gaudio has withdrawn. Ferrero is a quality player, regardless of injury status he deserves to be seeded highly, after all he is defending champion and will give the rest of the draw a run for their money, even though i see him losing in the 3rd round. IMO ferrero should be seeded 1, and we'll just see what you have to say when he wins the tennis masters cup and becomes world number 1 again. VAMOS JUANQUI

*Ljubica*
10-15-2004, 10:33 AM
He'll withdraw from Paris with a sore beak *quak* :tape:

Or even just a case of hating playing in Europe :angel:

misyou25
10-15-2004, 10:52 AM
misyou25.. i guess that was just a joke hehehe (hewitt can always take another plane!)
rogiman wheres "we" in it... anyways u dont have to teach me grammar!
going to sleep now...
do you know why he isnt starting? i thought it might be a joke but lol

Alvarillo
10-15-2004, 11:34 AM
MD Players !
1. Federer, Roger (SUI )
2. Henman, Tim (GBR)
3. Agassi, Andre (USA)
4. Ferrero, Juan Carlos (ESP)
5. Nalbandian, David (ARG)
6. Gaudio, Gastón (ARG)
7. Massú, Nicolas (CHI )
8. Schuettler, Rainer (GER )
9. Safin, Marat (RUS )
10. Srichaphan, Paradorn (THA )
11. González, Fernando (CHI )
12. Chela, Juan Ignacio (ARG )
13. Pavel, Andrei (ROM )
14. Robredo, Tommy (ESP)
15. Kiefer, Nicolas (GER)
16. Dent, Taylor (USA)
17. Hrbaty, Dominik (SVK)
18. Spadea, Vincent (USA)
19. Ljubicic, Ivan (CRO)
20. Novak, Jiri (CZE)
21. Schalken, Sjeng (HOL)
22. Fish, Mardy (USA)
23. Ancic, Mario (CRO)
24. Johansson, Joachim (SWE)
25. Cańas, Guillermo (ARG)
26. López, Feliciano (ESP)
27. Horna, Luis (PER)
28. Bjrokman Jonas (SUE)
29. Verdasco, Fernando (ESP)
30. Mayer, Florian (GER)
31. El Aynaoui, Younes (MAR)
32. Youzhny, Mikhail (RUS)
33. Soderling, Robin (SUE)
34. Melzer, Juergen (AUT)
35. Arazi, Hicham (MAR)
36. Malisse, Xavier (BEL)
37. Costa, Albert (ESP)
38. Haas, Tommy (ALE)

Rafael Nadal - WC
Alex Corretja - WC

Byeee

Ferrero Forever
10-15-2004, 11:38 AM
Is ferrero seeded 4 now?

jtipson
10-15-2004, 11:45 AM
Is ferrero seeded 4 now?

No, he'll be seeded seven. The list below is the entry list based on the rankings from 30th August. Seeds are based on last available rankings (i.e. 11th October).

jtipson
10-15-2004, 11:48 AM
do you know why he isnt starting? i thought it might be a joke but lol

Check the other threads. I'm sure Socket kindly explained in at least two places that Hewitt is on vacation.

Ferrero Forever
10-15-2004, 11:51 AM
thanks jtipson, though i wish juanqui was seeded 4

kim-fan
10-15-2004, 01:53 PM
do you know why he isnt starting? i thought it might be a joke but lol

he's fishing with Andrew McLeod

Sjengster
10-15-2004, 02:28 PM
Timbo to win TMS Madrid! At least live up to the seeding, would you?

RogiFan88
10-15-2004, 02:29 PM
Roger out now... damned ATP ...

Hi Sjengster!

Tim can win this... what about Marat? or Juanqui? here's a wild one: Corretja!!! OK, Nadal then...

Rogiman
10-15-2004, 02:31 PM
Yeah! :rocker2:

Go Timbo!

You're the hero for us losers around the world! :bigclap: :bigcry:

Sjengster
10-15-2004, 02:42 PM
Yeah! :rocker2:

Go Timbo!

You're the hero for us losers around the world! :bigclap: :bigcry:

Now now, no need for sour grapes when you'll have to watch Henman win the event instead... I wish.

BTW, Federer may be out, but here's some compensation - Schalken, who was initially out for the rest of the year, is making his comeback in Madrid! Doesn't that make you all feel better? :D ;)

Sjengster
10-15-2004, 02:45 PM
I should also mention that for anyone with a basic grasp of Latin, this thread title is extremely rude. Think about it. It could almost be some perverted exercise in alliteration.

jtipson
10-15-2004, 02:46 PM
Seeded List
1. Federer, Roger (SUI )
2. Henman, Tim (GBR) :eek: :eek:
3. Agassi, Andre (USA)
4. Gaudio, Gastón (ARG)
5. Safin, Marat (RUS )
6. Nalbandian, David (ARG)
7. Massú, Nicolas (CHI )
8. Ferrero, Juan Carlos (ESP)

9. Johansson, Joachim (SWE)
10. Robredo, Tommy (ESP)
11. Pavel, Andrei (ROM )
12. Hrbaty, Dominik (SVK)
13. Novak, Jiri (CZE)
14. Kiefer, Nicolas (GER) :confused: :confused:
15. Chela, Juan Ignacio (ARG )
16. Schuettler, Rainer (GER )


Next Spadea, Vincent (USA)

From that list: no Federer, no Gaudio, no Kiefer.

Corey Feldman
10-15-2004, 02:46 PM
Tim is 0-2 in Madrid in his career...i dont think these courts are as fast as places like basel, paris...
tim'll do well to make the QF..

Rogiman
10-15-2004, 02:48 PM
Now now, no need for sour grapes when you'll have to watch Henman win the event instead... I wish.

BTW, Federer may be out, but here's some compensation - Schalken, who was initially out for the rest of the year, is making his comeback in Madrid! Doesn't that make you all feel better? :D ;)


Actually Timbo is one of my favs, no sour grapes at all, and I seriously hope he wins it all, if it were really up to me I would hand him a calender-year Grand Slam... :tape:
However, he does seem to be the representative of all losers on earth. :lol:

Oh, and :yeah: for Schalken!

Sjengster
10-15-2004, 02:51 PM
Tim is 0-2 in Madrid in his career...i dont think these courts are as fast as places like basel, paris...
tim'll do well to make the QF..

I know - and there's even more pressure on him now as the top seed. Sure, he's hardly a major attraction, but it'll make the tournament look like even more of a joke if the no. 1 seed gets dumped out early. He's lost to good players, Srichaphan and Fish, and has had chances in both matches - the former was when his daughter was about to be born, of course, and his mind wasn't on the job.

Sjengster
10-15-2004, 02:53 PM
Actually Timbo is one favs, no sour grapes at all, and I seriously hope he wins it all, if it were really up to me I would hand him a calender-year Grand Slam... :tape:
However, he does seem to be the representative of all losers on earth. :lol:

Oh, and :yeah: for Schalken!

Fair enough. Personally, now that he's won a TMS, I'd settle for just one oh-so elusive Grand Slam. Hell, one more title period. ;)

If Schalken hadn't been ill and had defended his points at the US Open he would be seeded in this field, that's how many players have dropped out.

WyveN
10-15-2004, 02:53 PM
At this rate Mark P will be seeded

Corey Feldman
10-15-2004, 02:55 PM
I know - and there's even more pressure on him now as the top seed. Sure, he's hardly a major attraction, but it'll make the tournament look like even more of a joke if the no. 1 seed gets dumped out early. He's lost to good players, Srichaphan and Fish, and has had chances in both matches - the former was when his daughter was about to be born, of course, and his mind wasn't on the job.
and he's not had any warm up matches/tournaments on indoors, he has a bye so whoever he plays first will have a match, he'll need an easy, non-indoor specialist player..... if he gets any1 like canas, ljubicic, johansson, haas, he'll get stuffed :D

TennisLurker
10-15-2004, 02:55 PM
what? fed is out and henman is top seed?

Rogiman
10-15-2004, 02:56 PM
At this rate Mark P will be seeded

Too much science fiction lately dude...?

Sjengster
10-15-2004, 02:58 PM
That's right, Lurker! If Agassi wasn't playing I would feel quite happy since someone who deserved a TMS title and hasn't one won this year would win it (Henman, Safin, Nalbandian), or else someone completely unheralded would take the title. As it is, someone needs to take out Andre the Magnificent quickly.

That's the spirit Escude, thankfully you're not Henman's publicist.

Corey Feldman
10-15-2004, 03:00 PM
srichaphan is QF-QF in two Madrid events and playing well, and novak is FINAL-R16 and playing very well too.... maybe one of these guys can win a TMS finally ;)

Sjengster
10-15-2004, 03:02 PM
Novak, yes! Make up for that final appearance two years ago when he couldn't even play because of injury. Srichaphan... if a man who has beaten two Top 30 players all year ends up winning his first TMS because of so many players withdrawing, I won't be best pleased. Still, anyone who wins three games off Indoor Monster Robby "Bubba" Ginepri is obviously not in peak form.

WyveN
10-15-2004, 03:02 PM
This is going to be a fight out between the fringe guys from masters cup

TennisLurker
10-15-2004, 03:03 PM
maybe andre will have one of those losing-to-gilles-muller days

Rogiman
10-15-2004, 03:03 PM
srichaphan is QF-QF in two Madrid events and playing well, and novak is FINAL-R16 and playing very well too.... maybe one of these guys can win a TMS finally ;)

Srichaphan just lost to one of the worst players in the game's history 6:2 6:1...! :mad:

Sjengster
10-15-2004, 03:05 PM
Which is quite a good thing I suppose, the top three who have withdrawn are already confirmed for the event and now we get to see matches where something big is really on the line for all the main challengers. It could make the tennis much more dramatic and hard-fought. Safin, Nalbandian, don't blow this opportunity.

Corey Feldman
10-15-2004, 03:07 PM
Madrid seems very slow indoor courts, 2 finals have agassi-novak then ferrero-massu finals..... even El Aynaoui made the SF last year...
henman will struggle i believe, he's only ever been to the QF of indoor TMS twice his whole career! (2001 stuttgart qf, 2003 paris W)

RonE
10-15-2004, 03:13 PM
I would definitely like to see one of the following win the title: Henman, Agassi, Safin, Nalbandian, Ferrero. Whichever one of those wins I'll be happy.

Deboogle!.
10-15-2004, 03:20 PM
ohmygosh! when's the last time a big tournament like this didn't have ONE of the top 5 players in the world???

mitalidas
10-15-2004, 03:24 PM
i have to say it again Debstah -- never seen an avatar quite to the point like yours :)

Deboogle!.
10-15-2004, 03:26 PM
I'll have to say it again, too then ;)... he deserves it right now :o :)

Sjengster
10-15-2004, 03:26 PM
ohmygosh! when's the last time a big tournament like this didn't have ONE of the top 5 players in the world???

I don't know, but since this tournament does have one of the Top 5 players in the world (just the one), that's not a very useful comment.

WyveN
10-15-2004, 03:27 PM
ohmygosh! when's the last time a big tournament like this didn't have ONE of the top 5 players in the world???

Henman is ranked 5th

TennisLurker
10-15-2004, 03:32 PM
I would like to see novak win it, could canas make it to houston if he wins madrid?

mitalidas
10-15-2004, 03:33 PM
Man, roddick must now be wishing he can re-enter the draw!

Deboogle!.
10-15-2004, 03:39 PM
Nah, he's too stupid for an idea like that to come to his head :o Plus he's too busy jet-skiing, jumping off cliffs into lakes and eating pizza to have time for such a sensical thought :rolleyes:

lunahielo
10-15-2004, 03:44 PM
I should also mention that for anyone with a basic grasp of Latin, this thread title is extremely rude. Think about it. It could almost be some perverted exercise in alliteration
:D :lol: :lol: :rolls:

PennyThePenguin
10-15-2004, 03:52 PM
Nah, he's too stupid for an idea like that to come to his head :o Plus he's too busy jet-skiing, jumping off cliffs into lakes and eating pizza to have time for such a sensical thought :rolleyes:

DEB!!! :haha::haha:

tim is top seed :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

ytben
10-15-2004, 03:59 PM
I hope Marat, Tim, or David (in that order preferably) will be able to capitalize on the lack of top players in this tourney.

RPH
10-15-2004, 04:39 PM
what? fed is out and henman is top seed?

Henman top seed :haha: :lol: :rolls: :haha: at a masters event :eek: :o :tape:

At this rate some other Britain apart from Tim and Greg will get to the main draw without having to quailfy :D :p :woohoo: :cuckoo: :lol:

mitalidas
10-15-2004, 05:00 PM
I should also mention that for anyone with a basic grasp of Latin, this thread title is extremely rude. Think about it. It could almost be some perverted exercise in alliteration

:eek:
like "How bad does Voltchov suck" or some thread like that :eek:

alfonsojose
10-15-2004, 05:38 PM
Isn't that bad ... for an International Gold Series :tape:

Space Cowgirl
10-15-2004, 05:50 PM
wow, a Masters missing the top guys

Black Adam
10-15-2004, 06:28 PM
at least now we are nearly sure that safin, agassi and tim have the occasion to stop ppl wondering who is gonna make it to the TMC

Havok
10-15-2004, 06:38 PM
Henman #1, :haha: that's even funnier than Ferrero being seeded inside the top 8.:rolls:

Crazy_Fool
10-15-2004, 06:41 PM
Henman #1, :haha: that's even funnier than Ferrero being seeded inside the top 8.:rolls:
It is pretty funny :lol:

amethyst
10-15-2004, 07:04 PM
Isn't that bad ... for an International Gold Series :tape:

:haha:

MissKoubek1981
10-15-2004, 07:07 PM
An Update On Seeds
1. Henman, Tim (GBR) (Ranked 5)

:spit: :haha: That's great! *lol*

Ferrero Forever
10-16-2004, 09:31 AM
VAMOS FERRERO, mabye he can defend, who knows. Really hoping he does well and wins this, but i dont see it happening

Daniel
10-16-2004, 09:51 AM
Rogi :sad:

misyou25
10-16-2004, 10:31 AM
at least we know now why hewitt doesnt come: kim told him: madrid or me (models as ballgirls)