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What Is Federer's Main Language?

aIrSaMpRaS14
10-12-2004, 08:43 PM
I know that he speaks French, German and English.

But is French or German his main one? like the one he speaks at home and as a little kid?

Thanks.

squirrel
10-12-2004, 09:17 PM
swiss german

RonE
10-12-2004, 11:22 PM
swiss german

That's right- to be more specific Basel German- in each Canton in Switzerland (even among the German-speaking cantons) the language is slightly different. That is, if you take a bunch of people- one from canton Zurich, the second from canton Basel, the third from canton Schwiz etc, they would be able to understand each other, but the accent is slightly different and so are some of the phrases.

There is also a lot of adversity and rivalry between the Zurichers and the Baselers. I am now visiting in Zurich and sometimes when I'm with one of my friends here and we are sitting next to a group of people, a lot of the times they will tell me "oh, that person speaks Basel German" in a condescending manner and make a dissmissive gesture with their hand.

makro120
10-12-2004, 11:51 PM
How good is he in french? I never heard he speak french. Also, don't they speak some italian in switzerland aswell, do he speak some italian too?

RonE
10-12-2004, 11:58 PM
I have no idea if he speaks Italian- they speak Italian in the cantons closer to Italy- Tichino mainly, but that's right on the border with Italy.

And yes, he does speak French quite well, I heard one of his post-match interviews in Gstaad this year. While his accent in French is a little 'heavy', he speaks it fluently.

mitalidas
10-13-2004, 01:53 AM
He said in an interview at the USO (or earlier) that he spoke 3.5 languages, because Swiss-German is different enough from good ol' Deutsch

Fedex
10-13-2004, 02:01 AM
Swiss german. He can speak many languages fluently, though. :)

Billabong
10-13-2004, 05:08 AM
He spoke French in the Toronto final, and he was speaking very well, I was amazed:D!

lunahielo
10-13-2004, 05:41 AM
I think he's linguistically gifted. :) He's a fascinating person.

jtipson
10-13-2004, 09:48 AM
He doesn't speak any Italian, if I remember correctly from an interview he did in Rome. Apparently the first words he spoke were English :)

But it's not unusual for Swiss people to speak quite a few languages. It's only the Anglo-Saxon world that seems surprised when people aren't mono-lingual.

Marc Rosset is Tall
10-13-2004, 09:52 AM
I remember the interview last year when he lost to Mantilla, it was conducted in French. Well he lived in the Suisse-Romande (French part) for 2 years as a teenager, so he had to learn French to survive.

Yes, his first language is Swiss German.

Daniel
10-13-2004, 10:33 AM
Roger is good speaking English, soft voice , very nice :)

mitalidas
10-13-2004, 12:04 PM
Roge speaks english like it was his native tongue, he can convey subtlety and he can be witty, and he has a very impressive vocabulary

(Speaking of speaking...., the newly-naturalized-US-citizen Monica Seles in the mid 1980s said before a match "I'm as nervous as a wreck" :) Very cute!)

Rogiman
10-13-2004, 03:49 PM
He just has a basic mistake he repeats every time with conditional phrases of the pattern: If I had done *** I would have done ***.
Instead he keeps saying: If I would have done *** I would have done ***.
But then again, I'm not sure how many english-speakers are aware of that...

babsi
10-13-2004, 05:40 PM
My german was once corrected by an american,who had lived in Germany.
Even so he was right about my mistake, very German would have know,that he is not a native German speaker,because almost all Germans say it wrong - sounds nuts,well it is:)
The world is full of nuts,hand me a bowle :)

lunahielo
10-13-2004, 05:58 PM
jtipson wrote~
It's only the Anglo-Saxon world that seems surprised when people aren't mono-lingual.
I work with languages. Sadly, what you wrote is very true! :sad:

aIrSaMpRaS14
10-13-2004, 05:58 PM
You see my problem is that I have to do a profile for a German Speaker for my GCSE Coursework and it is VEERRYY important that I make sure that he speaks GERMAN.

If he doesn't then that can be the end of 2 years hard work for me. Would you say that Swiss German is concidered as German?

Like Would a German recognise Swiss German as their own Language?

Thanks for all your help.

mitalidas
10-13-2004, 06:29 PM
He just has a basic mistake he repeats every time with conditional phrases of the pattern: If I had done *** I would have done ***.
Instead he keeps saying: If I would have done *** I would have done ***.
But then again, I'm not sure how many english-speakers are aware of that...

that's trans-literation from german

Billabong
10-14-2004, 01:11 AM
Thanks for the info;)!

Yoda
10-14-2004, 01:15 AM
Roger is also very fluent in tennis :worship:

Billabong
10-14-2004, 01:16 AM
Roger is also very fluent in tennis :worship:

indeed:lol:!

babsi
10-14-2004, 09:03 AM
As a German I´m able to read swiss-german - slowly,but I can understand everything (being from the south of Germany helps,so).
If someone speaks swiss-german very slowly I might even be able to understand it,but if someone speaks it normal or fast I would not be able follow.

babsi
10-14-2004, 09:21 AM
For your question, a German would surely recognise swiss-german,as being a german dialekt.
If I moved to Swisserland I would surly be able to understand verything thats being said within a few weeks.Aktuelly speaking it would take somewhat longer,but it would also have to do with the fact that it isn´t too different,just sounds funny to you,that makes it harder for you to speak it (you would think -heh I can do better than that:))

Nymeria
10-14-2004, 09:27 AM
When I was young I always wanted to learn Swiss German, but that was because I've an uncle in Switserland and he tried to teach me the language. Of course I can't remember anything he teached me. not that I can remember anything of the German classes I had at school :p

User ID 4783
10-14-2004, 02:17 PM
You see my problem is that I have to do a profile for a German Speaker for my GCSE Coursework and it is VEERRYY important that I make sure that he speaks GERMAN.

If he doesn't then that can be the end of 2 years hard work for me. Would you say that Swiss German is concidered as German?

Like Would a German recognise Swiss German as their own Language?

Thanks for all your help.
Sometimes it's quite hard to understand those people but if they speak slowly/clearly you're able to understand Swiss German as a German and of course you would recognize it as German. I once heard Schnyder speaking Swiss German in an interview, and I really didn't understand much of what she said. :scratch: ;)

jtipson
10-14-2004, 03:39 PM
You see my problem is that I have to do a profile for a German Speaker for my GCSE Coursework and it is VEERRYY important that I make sure that he speaks GERMAN.

If he doesn't then that can be the end of 2 years hard work for me. Would you say that Swiss German is concidered as German?

Like Would a German recognise Swiss German as their own Language?

Thanks for all your help.

I was going to direct you to Roger's interview after the Hamburg final so you could hear him speaking both, but it looks like they've taken off all the videos from the Hamburg site now. His press conference consisted of about 25 minutes, first in English, then German, then Swiss German (about a third each) and it became progressively more difficult to understand for me!

Since Basel is coming up next week, you may get to hear some interviews with him in Swiss German. Also, have a look at Roger's own website - there are quite a few threads in Swiss German in the German forum, and you can see how much you can understand from your high German (probably quite a lot).

RogiFan88
10-14-2004, 03:49 PM
I w not be at all surprised if Rogi could speak a little Italian -- I did hear him say a few words in TO to an Italian player during practice... he obviously has a talent for languages. His French and English are both spoken w little accent. I've heard Swiss Germans speaking French and their accent is VERY heavily Germanic, whereas when Rogi speaks French you can hardly hear the German. The first time I heard him speak English, I couldn't believe how fluent he was AND he has a N Amer accent rather than British. Mind you, he does use a few British expressions, such as, "it's a pity" and he pronounces "rather" the Brit way, as in "rawther"... so cute!! Bet the Brits just love him in Wimby! He is truly worthy of the 2-times Wimby title. I'd love for Rogi to learn a few Spanish words... who can teach him? I know... Marat!

RonE
10-14-2004, 04:25 PM
You see my problem is that I have to do a profile for a German Speaker for my GCSE Coursework and it is VEERRYY important that I make sure that he speaks GERMAN.

If he doesn't then that can be the end of 2 years hard work for me. Would you say that Swiss German is concidered as German?

Like Would a German recognise Swiss German as their own Language?

Thanks for all your help.

You have to understand that Swiss German is only a dialect, it is not really another 'language'. In school (in the German cantons) in Switzerland the main language that students read and write in is regular German or 'hoch Deutsch'. I speak a bit of German and when I speak to someone when I'm in Zurich I tell them "please speak 'hoch Deutsch'", and everyone speaks regular German.
The only thing is, the accent sounds a bit unusual for someone who is not used to hearing it, but it is German all the same.

User ID 4783
10-14-2004, 06:02 PM
You have to understand that Swiss German is only a dialect, it is not really another 'language'. In school (in the German cantons) in Switzerland the main language that students read and write in is regular German or 'hoch Deutsch'. I speak a bit of German and when I speak to someone when I'm in Zurich I tell them "please speak 'hoch Deutsch'", and everyone speaks regular German.
The only thing is, the accent sounds a bit unusual for someone who is not used to hearing it, but it is German all the same.
Well there are some regional dialects a speaker of High German (Hochdeutsch :) ) wouldn't recognize because there are words that just don't exist in High German (for example I once heard the word "obik" - it means "Abend" (evening)! :eek: ) Besides, Swiss German sounds quite funny to me. :rolleyes:

RonE
10-19-2004, 05:55 PM
Well there are some regional dialects a speaker of High German (Hochdeutsch :) ) wouldn't recognize because there are words that just don't exist in High German (for example I once heard the word "obik" - it means "Abend" (evening)! :eek: ) Besides, Swiss German sounds quite funny to me. :rolleyes:

Yes, Swiss German does have some strange expressions. For example, in regular German "I am going home" would translate to "Ich gehe nach hause". In Swiss German it is "Ich gang hai". How did they come to that :scratch:

But the funniest thing is when they wish you good night. They don't always say "Gute nacht" like they do in Germany, but many times people will tell you "Gute nacht mit an andern" which means "have a good night with another" :haha: :haha: :haha:. Another 'what'? This I leave to your imaginations :devil:

mitalidas
10-19-2004, 06:37 PM
"I love you" in swiss german sounds positively un-lovey too
it is also frequently barked out like an order :eek:

Mrs. B
10-19-2004, 07:36 PM
Yes, Swiss German does have some strange expressions. For example, in regular German "I am going home" would translate to "Ich gehe nach hause". In Swiss German it is "Ich gang hai". How did they come to that :scratch:

But the funniest thing is when they wish you good night. They don't always say "Gute nacht" like they do in Germany, but many times people will tell you "Gute nacht mit an andern" which means "have a good night with another" :haha: :haha: :haha:. Another 'what'? This I leave to your imaginations :devil:

lol. in Bärn-Deustch, they will say, "i ga hei."

and "Gute Nacht, mitenand! (good night, all) or say, Gute Nacht, zäme! ( from zusammen, ) good night, together! :lol:

mitalidas
10-19-2004, 07:48 PM
just like the bus drivers greet you when it starts at the depot: Gruezi, mitenand. So cute!

lunahielo
10-20-2004, 12:29 AM
How do you say *I love you* in Swiss German?
Is it still *Ich liebe dich*?

Mrs. B
10-20-2004, 08:24 AM
How do you say *I love you* in Swiss German?
Is it still *Ich liebe dich*?

more like..."i ha dich gärn" ;)

tschaeggy
10-20-2004, 09:33 AM
more like..."i ha dich gärn" ;)
or you also can say "i lieb di"!

what about our "chuchichäschtli"??? to pronounce it is very funny for other-language-speakers! perhaps the dutch can do it quiet well! ;)

PerezRoldan
10-20-2004, 09:39 AM
Then the other thing with Swiss German dialects, it's gets better when they are from the mountains, and they understand the lowlanders, while the lowlanders have a problem understanding them.

RonE
10-20-2004, 11:45 AM
what about our "chuchichäschtli"??? to pronounce it is very funny for other-language-speakers! perhaps the dutch can do it quiet well! ;)

Wirchlich?

:haha: :haha: :haha: I have a Swiss friend who always laughs at me when I try to pronounce words in Swiss German. I tried this word (chuchichäschtli), she couldn't stop laughing! I was rather embarassed actually :o

And I when I say "Ich gang hai" she tells me I pronounce it like I'm saying "Shanghai". I just can't win! :sobbing:

And yes, PerezRoldan, I have heard some pretty funny stories involving highlanders, however I have never spoken to any myself yet.

lunahielo
10-20-2004, 05:38 PM
Originally Posted by Mrs. B
more like..."i ha dich gärn"


or you also can say "i lieb di"!

Danke~ :)

RogiFan88
10-20-2004, 10:05 PM
I miss ROGI... in any language... or dialect!

lunahielo
10-21-2004, 01:57 AM
Yo también~

User ID 4783
10-22-2004, 03:11 PM
And I when I say "Ich gang hai" she tells me I pronounce it like I'm saying "Shanghai". I just can't win! :sobbing:
:lol:

what about our "chuchichäschtli"??? to pronounce it is very funny for other-language-speakers! perhaps the dutch can do it quiet well! ;)
What's that supposed to mean? :unsure: Oh my, you really have a strange language over there :bolt: ;)

tschaeggy
10-22-2004, 07:30 PM
:lol:


What's that supposed to mean? :unsure: Oh my, you really have a strange language over there :bolt: ;)

"chuchi" meens kitchen and "chäschtli" is where you put all your dishes and other things you have in the kitchen, in it!

but we in Basel say "Kuchikäschtli", we don't pronounce the "ch" so hard as some other swiss do.

lsy
10-23-2004, 03:24 PM
Then the other thing with Swiss German dialects, it's gets better when they are from the mountains, and they understand the lowlanders, while the lowlanders have a problem understanding them.

:lol: really?

Reminds me of my dialect too, when I go north, despite speaking the same dialects, we have hard time understand each other.

Language is interesting, time to pick up a new one.

Action Jackson
10-24-2004, 11:22 AM
Then the other thing with Swiss German dialects, it's gets better when they are from the mountains, and they understand the lowlanders, while the lowlanders have a problem understanding them.

That's very true as I have spent some time in Switzerland and I was staying with a guy from Fribourg canton, but he was living in the mountains and he had a great accent and he definitely threw people off, because he was a German speaker in a majority French canton, though he moved around a lot and told me some funny stories.

Allegro and Federer communicate in Swiss German and not French.

Action Jackson
10-24-2004, 11:26 AM
or you also can say "i lieb di"!

what about our "chuchichäschtli"??? to pronounce it is very funny for other-language-speakers! perhaps the dutch can do it quiet well! ;)

The famous "chuchichäschtli" , yes that was the first Schwyzertüütsch word that I was taught, I managed not to sound too bad fortunately. The funny thing was when I was in a German class, the teacher asked me had I spent some time in Switzerland. I was very happy to hear that, but it was mainly because of my native language, with all the tonal inflictions which allegedly sounds similar to a Swiss person speaking German.

jtipson
10-24-2004, 05:31 PM
Allegro and Federer communicate in Swiss German and not French.

Do they? They were speaking French during practice at Wimbledon this year. And at the same time Roger was speaking German to Pavel. It's nice to have multiple options ;)

Action Jackson
10-25-2004, 05:55 AM
Do they? They were speaking French during practice at Wimbledon this year. And at the same time Roger was speaking German to Pavel. It's nice to have multiple options ;)

Maybe it depends on the mood as the many times I have seen them sometimes it's in Swiss German, others it's in French. Yves is from Valais which is a bilingual canton, though I think he is better in French than in Swiss German.

Maybe they were joking about Pavel.

tschaeggy
10-25-2004, 10:19 AM
perhaps Yves speaks french to Rogi and he answeres him in swissgerman? ;)
both understand both!

Mrs. B
10-25-2004, 10:39 AM
a poster from Roger's site, 'Schnifferli', posted this link. it was an interview of Roger on German tv, ZDF, last Saturday, during their sport program. (unfortunately i missed it, i was out for dinner) but it's all here, except the part where he kicks two goals in (the show lets their guests kick some balls into a makeshift "goal" inside the studio.) Nice to hear him talk in the German language, for a change, and he also has a good accent. :) Enjoy!

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmt/mediathek/0,3496,MT-2206259,00.html

Roger-No.1
10-25-2004, 11:25 AM
The famous "chuchichäschtli" , yes that was the first Schwyzertüütsch word that I was taught, I managed not to sound too bad fortunately. The funny thing was when I was in a German class, the teacher asked me had I spent some time in Switzerland. I was very happy to hear that, but it was mainly because of my native language, with all the tonal inflictions which allegedly sounds similar to a Swiss person speaking German.

This story is cute :)

ytben
10-25-2004, 11:57 AM
a poster from Roger's site, 'Schnifferli', posted this link. it was an interview of Roger on German tv, ZDF, last Saturday, during their sport program. (unfortunately i missed it, i was out for dinner) but it's all here, except the part where he kicks two goals in (the show lets their guests kick some balls into a makeshift "goal" inside the studio.) Nice to hear him talk in the German language, for a change, and he also has a good accent. :) Enjoy!

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmt/mediathek/0,3496,MT-2206259,00.html

Thanks Mrs. B and Schnifferli!!! It is great to see Rogi again even though I have no idea whatsoever what it was about :lol:

Roger-No.1
10-25-2004, 12:02 PM
Thanks Mrs. B and Schnifferli!!! It is great to see Rogi again even though I have no idea whatsoever what it was about :lol:

Really liked his body language. :)

SUKTUEN
10-25-2004, 12:04 PM
THANK YOU SO MUCH Mrs. B !!!!!!!! :worship: :worship:

Roger and Mirka look so sweet !!!!!!!! :inlove: :inlove:

RogiFan88
10-25-2004, 05:22 PM
Roger-No.1, what about his body??

Tschaeggy, have fun and say Hi to Rogi for us!

RogiFan88
10-25-2004, 05:30 PM
Rogi's so cute in any language, even if I can't understand him... nice interview! Danke!!

Anyone can post a brief resume of it?

Roger-No.1
10-25-2004, 08:13 PM
Roger-No.1, what about his body??

Oh!!!! His body? Magnifique! :D