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Week 31: Segovia (Winner: Karol Beck)

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interruptus25
07-13-2011, 04:00 PM
Surface: Hard
Prize Money: €85,000+H

Entry List:

Kukushkin, Mikhail KAZ 67
Bachinger, Matthias GER 93
Mahut, Nicolas FRA 96
Beck, Karol SVK 100
Schuettler, Rainer GER 109
Marchenko, Illya UKR 115
Gabashvili, Teymuraz RUS 138
De Schepper, Kenny FRA 144
Kudryavtsev, Alexander RUS 145
Lacko, Lukas SVK 146
Bemelmans, Ruben BEL 147
Kravchuk, Konstantin RUS 148
Donskoy, Evgeny RUS 154
Millot, Vincent FRA 159
Clement, Arnaud FRA 164
Niland, Conor IRL 173
Sijsling, Igor NED 178
Bautista-Agut, Roberto ESP 181
Navarro, Ivan ESP 190
Nielsen, Frederik DEN 198
Sousa, Joao POR 200
Rieschick, Sebastian GER 203

Alternates:

1.Chiudinelli, Marco SUI 208
2.Brugues-Davi, Arnau ESP 214
3.Burquier, Gregoire FRA 228
4.Jouan, Romain FRA 232
5.Klec, Ivo SVK 237
6.Del Bonis, Federico ARG 240
7.Lemke, James AUS 251
8.Arnaboldi, Andrea ITA 253
9.Menendez-Maceiras, Adrian ESP 255
10.Brezac, Charles-Antoine FRA 257
11.Cox, Daniel GBR 258
12.Mertl, Jan CZE 259
13.Mektic, Nikola CRO 264
14.Bubka, Sergei UKR 265
15.Lajovic, Dusan SRB 268

Sombrerero loco
07-14-2011, 08:27 AM
really nice entry list, i will be there =)
hopefully gimeno-traver will play there as a wc

Chris.
07-14-2011, 08:36 AM
Go Bemelmans.

willoughby
07-14-2011, 12:36 PM
really nice entry list, i will be there =)
hopefully gimeno-traver will play there as a wc

Gimeno will play in Kitzbuhel this week

Sombrerero loco
07-18-2011, 10:16 AM
carreño said he would play here, so wc carreño-busta

lolada_4
07-23-2011, 02:54 PM
LET´S GO JOÃO SOUSA!
Anyone Portuguese in qualification? Pedro Sousa or Leonardo Tavares?

lolada_4
07-23-2011, 03:05 PM
LET´S GO JOÃO SOUSA!
Anyone Portuguese in qualification? Pedro Sousa or Leonardo Tavares?

* any (correction)

Sombrerero loco
07-26-2011, 03:29 PM
any updates on the entry list??

Sombrerero loco
07-26-2011, 03:32 PM
WC: carreño-busta
http://www.marca.com/2011/07/22/tenis/1311345679.html

Nathaliia
07-26-2011, 04:41 PM
Marchenko: OUT
Chiudinelli: IN

Sombrerero loco
07-26-2011, 05:06 PM
so sad that marchenko is out =(
any of you know if sadecky is into the qualifying entry list?

Nathaliia
07-26-2011, 06:02 PM
You don't have qualifying entry lists in challengers, if you will come Friday night and show up, you will play if your ranking is high enough.

Sopot challenger ALT list was packed with strong names, and there were 15 local players in the QD in the end, ALT positions mean nothing unless they are high enough you have a chance to get a direct spot.

Game.Petzschner
07-29-2011, 10:58 PM
great event

CooCooCachoo
07-30-2011, 09:12 AM
Good luck to Adrian Menendez in qualies :rocker:

Smasher
07-30-2011, 09:36 AM
Henri Kontinen is hoping to get an SE I assume. At least he has added the tournament to his schedule on his official website

Javi
07-30-2011, 10:41 AM
Good Luck to Pablo Carreño and Roberto Bautista in MD. :cheerleader:

Javi
07-30-2011, 10:43 AM
great event

Indeed. Named best Challenger tournament in 2009 by ATP and ITF for something. :angel:

dutch tennisfan
07-30-2011, 01:11 PM
Good luck to igor sijsling!

Sombrerero loco
07-30-2011, 01:30 PM
Henkka will play here??really? :woohoo:

SKozak
07-31-2011, 07:19 AM
so sad that marchenko is out =(

Marchenko is still recovering after injury in Pozoblanco event

Lopez
07-31-2011, 10:40 AM
Henkka will play here??really? :woohoo:

That's what I have understood as well...

SKozak
07-31-2011, 02:51 PM
Where do you see the MD? The ATP link http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2011/783/mds.pdf is still empty :(

Xam'd
07-31-2011, 03:00 PM
Where do you see the MD? The ATP link http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2011/783/mds.pdf is still empty :(

I guess MD should be out already but it doesn't seem to be in internet yet.

Iván
07-31-2011, 03:02 PM
who made the finals last year?

SKozak
07-31-2011, 03:06 PM
who made the finals last year?

2010 final: Daniel GIMENO-TRAVER def Adrian MANNARINO 6-4 7-6(2)

jae
07-31-2011, 05:12 PM
MD is here: http://tenispain.com/torneos/files/crp2011/c5020/fin.pdf

Sombrerero loco
07-31-2011, 05:42 PM
Hi guys, do we have a oop for tomorrow??is henkka playing tomorrow or tuesday?im going to bring you some pics but i will only be able to upload them here after a couple of days

CooCooCachoo
07-31-2011, 05:51 PM
Main Draw:

Mikhail Kukushkin KAZ [1] vs. João Sousa POR
Conor Niland IRL vs. Marco Chiudinelli SUI
Lukas Lacko SVK vs. Q
Arnau Brugues-Davi ESP vs. Teymuraz Gabashvili RUS [5]

Karol Beck SVK [3] vs. Konstantin Kravchuk RUS
Pablo Carreño-Busta ESP [WC] vs. Ivan Navarro ESP
Guillermo Alcaide ESP [WC] vs. Roberto Bautista-Agut ESP
Henri Kontinen FIN [SE] vs. Kenny De Schepper FRA [6]

Arnaud Clément FRA [8] vs. Igor Sijsling NED
Frederik Nielsen DEN vs. Grégoire Burquier FRA
Fabrice Martin FRA [SE] vs. Q
Q vs. Rainer Schüttler GER [4]

Ruben Bemelmans BEL [7] vs. Vincent Millot FRA
Christian Voinea ROU [WC] vs. Evgeny Donskoy RUS
Gerard Granollers ESP [WC] vs. Q
Sebastian Rieschick GER vs. Nicolas Mahut FRA [2]

Filo V.
07-31-2011, 05:56 PM
Rainer has a good draw. Maybe this week coming up, he'll finally play to his potential. Hopefully either he or Arno make the SF at least. Mahut has an adequate draw, but hopefully this week off has helped him physically and he'll play well here.

That second quarter is tough, but hopefully Karol can go through it, though I doubt he will.

Gaba has an extremely tough R1 match and coming from clay, I would be pleasantly surprised if he beats Brugues.

Hopefully, this won't be another wasted week and one of my favorites win the title.

Xam'd
07-31-2011, 06:03 PM
Hi guys, do we have a oop for tomorrow??is henkka playing tomorrow or tuesday?im going to bring you some pics but i will only be able to upload them here after a couple of days

De Schepper is playing challenger final currently in Italy so wouldn't think Henkka and him will play tomorrow, really terrible draw for Henri BTW, only good thing in it is that Kenny might be a bit tired after final this week.

Marita_Matthäus
07-31-2011, 07:24 PM
I can't believe Lizariturry lost to Salas :facepalm:
Good luck to Carreno-Busta.

Sombrerero loco
07-31-2011, 08:40 PM
Liza please retire soon :facepalm: im going tomorrow and also tuesday by the moment.cant wait to see henkka live!

Javi
07-31-2011, 09:21 PM
Tough draw for Pablo. I Hope he is fully recovered and plays his best. :cheer:

pozzanghera
07-31-2011, 10:33 PM
Oh, for goodness sake. Marco had Kukushkin in the semi final in Penza, in the quarters in Astana and R2 here? Meh. Also, not exactly thrilled with Gerard's draw, but I guess any Challenger draws will be tough on him for a while.

Nathaliia
07-31-2011, 11:30 PM
Oh, for goodness sake. Marco had Kukushkin in the semi final in Penza, in the quarters in Astana and R2 here? Meh. Also, not exactly thrilled with Gerard's draw, but I guess any Challenger draws will be tough on him for a while.
If it was about slam semifinals between Djokovic and Federer people on MTF's GM would write ATP regularly is fixing draws ;)

Marita_Matthäus
08-01-2011, 02:22 AM
Liza please retire soon :facepalm: im going tomorrow and also tuesday by the moment.cant wait to see henkka live!

Noooooo, that would break my heart :awww:
But maybe he should take some time off, don't think playing this tournament was the best thing to do, especially since Ricardo Rodriguez beat him 6-0 2-0 RET just a few days earlier :help:

Saviolero
08-01-2011, 01:37 PM
Sijsling 6-2 0*-1 Clement

Filo V.
08-01-2011, 01:39 PM
One of the worst sets of Arno's career.

Filo V.
08-01-2011, 01:49 PM
This match is a disaster.

CooCooCachoo
08-01-2011, 01:59 PM
Donskoy beat Voinea 6-2 6-1

Filo V.
08-01-2011, 03:05 PM
So horrible.

Saviolero
08-01-2011, 03:08 PM
Sijsling 6-2 1-6 7-6 Clement.

Very poor game Clement.

Filo V.
08-01-2011, 03:09 PM
Absolutely dismal final point from Arno, which signifies the season he's had and the quality final point. Disgusting.

Filo V.
08-01-2011, 03:09 PM
These courts are slow, so I don't expect any of my favorites doing well here.

Frederick16
08-01-2011, 04:16 PM
Sijsling 6-2 1-6 7-6 Clement.

Very poor game Clement.

Yeah great Igor! Punishing that moonballing from the boring Clement with net rushing on this slow court! I like his play..

Iván
08-01-2011, 05:36 PM
Ruben 5-7 6-1 0-0

nole_no1
08-01-2011, 06:03 PM
Retire Clement :wavey:

Filo V.
08-01-2011, 06:12 PM
Bemelmans def. Millot 5-7 6-1 6-4

Nathaliia
08-01-2011, 06:23 PM
Mahut-Rieschick 6-1

CooCooCachoo
08-01-2011, 06:34 PM
Ruben :yeah:

Filo V.
08-01-2011, 06:51 PM
Mahut def. Rieschick 6-1 6-2

Very composed and solid from Nicolas, good serving.

I've seen the German a few times, and I remember people on this board talking him up, but I've never really seen much there from him.

pozzanghera
08-01-2011, 07:55 PM
After the way Gerard played this afternoon, Mahut is going to eat him for breakfast.

Vitalis
08-01-2011, 09:38 PM
Yes, Gerard was so poor. This guy Pulgar Garcia who is out of top 1000 was up a break in a deciding set and Granollers was a bit lucky to catch a drop volley on a break point. In general very bad match for him. I didn't follow that guy much, but with that level he can't go further on challenger events.

CooCooCachoo
08-02-2011, 07:02 AM
Monday results:

Igor Sijsling NED beat Arnaud Clément FRA [8] 6-2 1-6 7-6 (8)
Ruben Bemelmans BEL [7] beat Vincent Millot FRA 5-7 6-1 6-4
Evgeny Donskoy RUS beat Christian Voinea ROU [WC] 6-2 6-1
Gerard Granollers ESP [WC] beat Jaime Pulgar-Garcia ESP [Q] 7-6 (4) 4-6 6-3
Nicolas Mahut FRA [2] beat Sebastian Rieschick GER 6-1 6-2

Bautista-Agut & Navarro [ESP] beat Delgado & Marray [GBR, 1] 6-4 6-4
Andino & Zeballos [ESP/BOL] beat Fornell-Mestres & Muniesa [ESP, WC] 7-6 (1) 6-3

ted
08-02-2011, 07:58 AM
These courts are slow, so I don't expect any of my favorites doing well here.



so slow or fast (tennis alternative writes "Conditions are quick with the elevation of the city (1 002 m) so strong servers will be at ease" )
there isnt stream so how u know that is slow?

VOX
08-02-2011, 09:13 AM
nielsen power in da house can`t return ... ;(

ted
08-02-2011, 09:27 AM
if nielsen lost it he wont be top 200 player

broken again, what a choke

RonaldGomez
08-02-2011, 10:02 AM
Burquier 6/2 6/2 Nielsen

Game.Petzschner
08-02-2011, 10:25 AM
Great fabrice martin plays here against bolivian qualier federico zeballos ranked 729 i think zeballos will have a hard time to break his serve so hopefully martin isnt to tired from last week and can get a win or 2 here, courts slower than recanati here but martin will still be hard to break for anyone.

Javi
08-02-2011, 10:50 AM
After the way Gerard played this afternoon, Mahut is going to eat him for breakfast.

Abysmal match this Granollers jr-Pulgar García. :facepalm:

CooCooCachoo
08-02-2011, 11:30 AM
OMFG Nielsen :help: Should have cruised past Burquier.

mab007
08-02-2011, 12:34 PM
What happens with match Lacko - Mektic?

Game.Petzschner
08-02-2011, 01:03 PM
Mektic def Lacko 6-2,3-6,6-2

Game.Petzschner
08-02-2011, 01:05 PM
Brugues-davi withdrew replaced by lucky loser albano olivetti

RonaldGomez
08-02-2011, 01:11 PM
Chiudinelli 6/4 2/6 7/5
Schuettler 7/6 6/4

RonaldGomez
08-02-2011, 01:12 PM
Brugues-davi withdrew replaced by lucky loser albano olivetti

Aka "the french Isner".

Game.Petzschner
08-02-2011, 01:17 PM
Aka "the french Isner".
How tall is this kid i saw a qualifying match where he did 24 aces in 3 sets

RonaldGomez
08-02-2011, 01:26 PM
How tall is this kid i saw a qualifying match where he did 24 aces in 3 sets

He's taller than 2m but I don't know exactly. Still a newbie, I think he is going to perform next season or indoors at the end of the year.

CooCooCachoo
08-02-2011, 01:51 PM
:yeah: Marco
:help: Lukas
:sobbing: Adrian

Filo V.
08-02-2011, 02:20 PM
Karol bring your shit to the table. What the fuck is this crap I'm watching? Better not lose to this garbage player.

Karol is so much better than Kravchuk. He needs to handle his business.

Filo V.
08-02-2011, 02:22 PM
Rainer did a good job to win. The tennis level still isn't where it should be, but better than the travesty of last week.

Good win for Marco as well in a tight match and Lacko just keeps on struggling.

Filo V.
08-02-2011, 02:27 PM
The French seem to have several all-serve types floating around. I doubt any of them ever really make it anywhere.

Filo V.
08-02-2011, 02:32 PM
Great end of the set there from Karol. Now it's time to take this match.

Javi
08-02-2011, 03:02 PM
"French Isner" made 25 aces (17 in the second set :eek:) and still lost to Gabashvilli in two tie-breaks

Game.Petzschner
08-02-2011, 03:13 PM
This olivetti guy is unbreakable 25 aces in 2 sets thats crazy, still lost though....

Filo V.
08-02-2011, 03:36 PM
Gaba did what was required, this Olivetti guy will just be another spectacle and that's probably it.

Filo V.
08-02-2011, 03:38 PM
Karol finally did what he needed and won 4-6 7-5 7-5 over Kravchuk. He played well to break to win the final two sets, but overall an average performance. I still think that he should make at least the QF here, and De Schepper is a good match-up for him if they play.

Deathless Mortal
08-02-2011, 03:53 PM
How tall is Henri Kontinen?

Xam'd
08-02-2011, 03:57 PM
How tall is Henri Kontinen?

Height: 189 cm / 6'3'' says his homepage. I guess that would be about right.

Deathless Mortal
08-02-2011, 04:02 PM
He just won 22/22 points on 1st serve in the first set :eek:

Tenn1sAdd1ct
08-02-2011, 04:02 PM
1st set Kontinen 7-6 :cool: Monster serving also, 22/22 1st serves won :lol:

Deathless Mortal
08-02-2011, 04:05 PM
It continues 25/25..

Deathless Mortal
08-02-2011, 04:06 PM
I didn't think De Schepper is such a poor returner :o

Game.Petzschner
08-02-2011, 04:35 PM
Martin leads Zeballos(federico) 7-5,2-6,2-1*

Deathless Mortal
08-02-2011, 04:44 PM
Kenny had better stats on serve in the second set and won the tiebreak.

Game.Petzschner
08-02-2011, 04:48 PM
Martin leads Zeballos(federico) 7-5,2-6,4-1*

come on fabrice keep the streak going

Game.Petzschner
08-02-2011, 04:50 PM
Kontinen 7-6,6-7,*1-0 instant break at the start of the 3rd first break of the match ,de schepper broken to love i dont see anyway back now

Game.Petzschner
08-02-2011, 05:05 PM
Fabrice Martin bt Federico Zeballos 7-5,2-6,6-3
:worship::worship:

Keeps the streak going, old man schuettler next

This win will get him into the top 300:clap2:

RonaldGomez
08-02-2011, 05:47 PM
Kontinen beat de Schepper 7/6 6/7 6/4, good to see him back

Saviolero
08-02-2011, 06:02 PM
Pablo Carreño 4-6 7-6 0-1 0*-40 Ivan Navarro

And Rain delay :o

Menger
08-02-2011, 06:04 PM
Does anybody know if the game will resume today?

Filo V.
08-02-2011, 06:31 PM
Probably depends on if they have lighting.

Filo V.
08-02-2011, 06:33 PM
Rainer should take out Martin, perfect match-up for him, and the big guy playing two tough matches on Sunday and today will likely tire him. Especially since these courts aren't that fast.

Great win for Henri, a true talent.

Dugavljan
08-02-2011, 10:13 PM
Mektić :yeah:

Sombrerero loco
08-02-2011, 11:11 PM
henkka :woohoo: come on go for the qfs...by the way, best match of the tournament so far this kontinen vs de schepper

Sombrerero loco
08-02-2011, 11:25 PM
btw, lacko was absolutely awful today, not really good news for his fans, he was not on the game, missing many many easy forehands....=S he was not even top 500 today :help:

CooCooCachoo
08-03-2011, 08:19 AM
Great win for Kontinen :eek:

Sombrerero loco
08-03-2011, 09:01 AM
hey guys, my pics will be uploaded soon on tennisalternative.com, so go there if you want to see them.i will upload my pics of kontinen to his thread too(and i have really many pics of him)

pozzanghera
08-03-2011, 10:47 AM
hey guys, my pics will be uploaded soon on tennisalternative.com, so go there if you want to see them.

Excellent, thank you!

Game.Petzschner
08-03-2011, 10:56 AM
yess come on fabrice keep the streak going

Martin 7-6(5),*5-0

Game.Petzschner
08-03-2011, 10:58 AM
Martin def Schuettler 7-6(5),6-0:worship::worship::worship:

Keeps the streak going seems to be loving these courts even though their a little slower than recanti last week not a single bp schuettler had today.

Game.Petzschner
08-03-2011, 11:12 AM
Sousa def Kukushkin 7-6,6-2

CooCooCachoo
08-03-2011, 11:49 AM
Kukushkin :tape: Very bad loss.

Good to see Schüttler lose :yeah:

CooCooCachoo
08-03-2011, 11:53 AM
Bautista-Agut beat Alcaide 6-1 6-7 7-6 :sad:

Game.Petzschner
08-03-2011, 11:54 AM
Bautista-Agut def. Alcaide 6-1,6-7(2),7-6(2)

Game.Petzschner
08-03-2011, 11:57 AM
whats going on with the atp wednesday and still havent put up the draw on the website http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2011/783/mds.pdf

Never seen it get to wednesday and no draw:confused:

Game.Petzschner
08-03-2011, 12:01 PM
http://tenispain.com/torneos/files/crp2011/c5020/fin.pdf

Md is here is anyone is yet to see it

Fabrice martin in the quarters :worship:

Next plays either sjsling who he beat last week or burquier, both guys he can beat so a great chance of a semi final showing here.

CooCooCachoo
08-03-2011, 12:03 PM
whats going on with the atp wednesday and still havent put up the draw on the website http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2011/783/mds.pdf

Never seen it get to wednesday and no draw:confused:

There must be some bug, but the combined drawsheet does load (x.pdf)

Marita_Matthäus
08-03-2011, 01:00 PM
Carreno-Busta def. Navarro 4-6 7-6(5) 7-6(2)
Pablito :banana:

Javi
08-03-2011, 01:01 PM
Pablo Carreño d. Iván Navarro 4-6, 7-6, 7-6 (was one break down in both second and third set).
:worship: :woohoo:

Ad Wim
08-03-2011, 01:05 PM
Vamooooos! Was trailing 3-0 and 4-1 and still won. Great!

Filo V.
08-03-2011, 02:00 PM
Absolutely fucking ridiculous result from Rainer. Losing a LOVE set to Fabrice Martin? WTF has happened to his form? So gross. He's failed in all of these latest challengers that should have been easy points. That was the perfect match-up for him. Extremely disappointing.

Filo V.
08-03-2011, 02:09 PM
Carreno did good to win his match, but Karol should beat him tomorrow. Karol should be able to dictate the rallies. I still don't expect a deep run here but a QF would be acceptable.

Mahut has to clean up the bottom half of the draw now, and he should do so.

Gaba has a great shot at the SF here and he basically has to do it to save his season. Kuku losing at least makes this day better than horrible.

Filo V.
08-03-2011, 02:14 PM
Marcel's brother played alright for a while, but Mahut is just on a totally different level. Too many errors from the younger Granollers, and Mahut is playing much better now.

pozzanghera
08-03-2011, 02:41 PM
That was a better fight than I'd expected from Gerard. Although the commentator did struggle to find polite ways of saying 'that shot was shite' at some of his shockers. ;)

Game.Petzschner
08-03-2011, 03:00 PM
Absolutely fucking ridiculous result from Rainer. Losing a LOVE set to Fabrice Martin? WTF has happened to his form? So gross. He's failed in all of these latest challengers that should have been easy points. That was the perfect match-up for him. Extremely disappointing.
Well it was clear schuettler knew he couldnt break back so he tanked the set 6-0.

CooCooCachoo
08-03-2011, 03:26 PM
Ruben thoroughly unimpressive so far against Donskoy :unsure:

Filo V.
08-03-2011, 03:53 PM
Error, error, winner, error, winner, error. That's essentially what it's been so far for Bemelmans.

Filo V.
08-03-2011, 03:58 PM
These courts are slow. Donskoy has a nice game but as I've said before I don't see superstar ability. I've seen him primarily on clay so I'm glad to see him on hard. Ruben should win if he plays well. Got the break in the second so let's see what happens.

Game.Petzschner
08-03-2011, 04:04 PM
Bemelmans 3-6,3-0*

He really needs to work on his returning its not up to standard at all

CooCooCachoo
08-03-2011, 04:23 PM
Ruben 3-6 *5-3

:zzz: He can play so much better.

CooCooCachoo
08-03-2011, 04:26 PM
Ruben 3-6 6-3 0-0*

CooCooCachoo
08-03-2011, 04:39 PM
This is not a match that will go down as one of the best clashes in Segovia :unsure:

CooCooCachoo
08-03-2011, 04:41 PM
Ruben 3-6 6-3 *2-3

CooCooCachoo
08-03-2011, 04:48 PM
I really can't believe how poorly Ruben is playing from the baseline. Shocking.

CooCooCachoo
08-03-2011, 04:58 PM
Ruben 3-6 6-3 4-6

:help:

Hugely unfortunate net cord for Ruben to give Donskoy the MP, but to be honest with the way Ruben played on the baseline he was going to go down in the breaker anyway. Really disappointing performance from the Belgian :(

Filo V.
08-03-2011, 05:30 PM
Ruben's baseline game is good, but he's not a world-beater by any means from the back of the court. In my eyes Donskoy is better than Bemelmans from the baseline, especially on this slow HC.

Frederick16
08-03-2011, 05:46 PM
I don't get why Sijsling is so low ranked. His game is top 100 material

Filo V.
08-03-2011, 06:20 PM
It really isn't, but he may be having one of his good days. He's an OK player, but nothing special.

The opponent he's playing will make him look better than he is.

Sombrerero loco
08-03-2011, 06:30 PM
henkka please destroy bautista tomorrow =D

RHB1993
08-03-2011, 06:31 PM
I don't know but seems like the Dutch has some physical problems. Doesn't some to be in a great physical shape. Just playing serve and volley, doesn't move a bit and makes stupid mistakes that usually can hust be explained with no concentration which you usually have if you don't have enough stamina.

And now having to go to the third set. I only see one man winning this match and this should be Burquier.

CooCooCachoo
08-03-2011, 07:11 PM
Great last two games from Burquier to clinch the win against Sijsling 4-6 6-4 6-4.

First time I've seen him play. Quite enjoyable game :yeah:

ciprianned
08-03-2011, 07:44 PM
Pablo :worship:

Sombrerero loco
08-03-2011, 08:56 PM
I don't get why Sijsling is so low ranked. His game is top 100 material

:facepalm:

sheva07
08-03-2011, 09:38 PM
Igor is just a retarded chocker. Chocking in the second with a break up. Wasting another good draw.:tape:

Nathaliia
08-03-2011, 09:44 PM
Yes, I have the photos indeed but not signed and I'm not such a huge specialist in players faces :tape: I'll try to do some detective work now :yeah:

FrankSolitario
08-04-2011, 08:59 AM
Why is Kontinen so underrated against Bautista?
the rankings could set Bautista as a favourite, but Kontinen last matches say something different to me...
What do you think about this issue?

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 09:15 AM
yeah i think henkka will beat bautista, specially as bautista beat 61 67 76 alcaide who is on a big slump and henkka defeated de schepper here...

FrankSolitario
08-04-2011, 09:19 AM
Igor is just a retarded chocker. Chocking in the second with a break up. Wasting another good draw.:tape:

this is so true

last week i just wrote a post about Sijsling's mysterious chokings
he is one of the greatest in losing matches a set and a break up in the second
probably he is not one of the most physically prepared players and he has quite an hour of good tennis
but there is something mental too, because he often chokes on 6-4 5-3 or something like that
on the other hand, when he finds the good week he can beat players like Muller, Brown, Bemelmans, Rochus, Mahut, De Bakker, Kamke...
One year ago i saw him playing a great tennis against Soderling in Rotterdam...:confused:

sheva07
08-04-2011, 10:21 AM
this is so true

last week i just wrote a post about Sijsling's mysterious chokings
he is one of the greatest in losing matches a set and a break up in the second
probably he is not one of the most physically prepared players and he has quite an hour of good tennis
but there is something mental too, because he often chokes on 6-4 5-3 or something like that
on the other hand, when he finds the good week he can beat players like Muller, Brown, Bemelmans, Rochus, Mahut, De Bakker, Kamke...
One year ago i saw him playing a great tennis against Soderling in Rotterdam...:confused:

Yes, when he's in good form he can play really well. He proved that against Söderling and at the end of last year with two challenger finals both indoors. But like you said he chokes very often when he's a set up and sometimes a break too. To be honest I'm not a great fan of his game and his personality. I don't think his game is very special to watch. He slices a lot with the backhand and his forehand is quite average.

Xam'd
08-04-2011, 12:09 PM
Why is Kontinen so underrated against Bautista?
the rankings could set Bautista as a favourite, but Kontinen last matches say something different to me...
What do you think about this issue?

I feel Kontinen has decent chance here, his level of play is very high when he is playing well. And now he has had good results so he should have much confidence even after having all these injuries. But he has sometimes these really bad days when he becomes serve only UEmachine so hard to predict this match really.

Filo V.
08-04-2011, 01:26 PM
Karol is just giving this set up. Two breaks up and totally dominant and he totally allowed Carreno back into the match.

Karol should definitely win this match if he plays at a good level.

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 01:35 PM
Im here live at el espinar challenger.is it broadcasted or what?im just behind of carreño when he sits :lol:

RonaldGomez
08-04-2011, 01:38 PM
Martin reconocía que “Estoy jugando el mejor tenis de mi vida. El rival me ha llegado a decir que parecía que estaba jugando a la play station por la facilidad de mi juego. Se me dan muy bien este tipo de pistas, y he llegado con mucha confianza aquí al ganar el torneo de la semana pasada”.

=> Martin acknowledges that he's playing the tennis of his life at the moment. He's feeling comfortable on the surface and has much confidence since winning last week tournament. Schuettler told him that it was as if he was playing Playstation :D

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 01:42 PM
Tiebreak.carreño even had a set point last game

Filo V.
08-04-2011, 01:42 PM
Im here live at el espinar challenger.is it broadcasted or what?im just behind of carreño when he sits :lol:

Yes, it's being broadcasted.

Filo V.
08-04-2011, 01:43 PM
Karol is totally falling apart and looks frazzled. Winning this tiebreak would be huge for him.

Filo V.
08-04-2011, 01:46 PM
Carreno has a good serve. I can see him being a guy who hits the low 130s consistently when he fully grows into his body.

Filo V.
08-04-2011, 01:50 PM
Ridiculously passive from Karol. Lucky Carreno missed that volley. Karol's movement looks labored.

CooCooCachoo
08-04-2011, 01:50 PM
Epic missed volley there on set point by Carreño :o

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 01:51 PM
Omg how could he miss that forehabd volley :(

Filo V.
08-04-2011, 01:52 PM
YES Karol! Lucky as heck, but he got the job done and that's what matters.

CooCooCachoo
08-04-2011, 01:52 PM
Oh God.

Christmas just came early for Beck.

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 01:53 PM
Set beck, carreño...what a volley you wasted :o

Game.Petzschner
08-04-2011, 01:53 PM
Terrible miss on sp there by carreno

Game.Petzschner
08-04-2011, 01:54 PM
how lucky is beck really deserved to lose that set after letting carreno back in

FrankSolitario
08-04-2011, 01:56 PM
Beck is only 1st serve in this match
the kid is dominating the rallies but wasted an IN-CRE-DI-BLE volley on the net
he never did the serve and volley in the whole set but on set point
it's a beginner decision-execution...

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 01:57 PM
Please beck win the second set so henkka's match will be on time :spit:

Game.Petzschner
08-04-2011, 01:58 PM
Carreno made a great first serve on the set point but should have taken a step back waited for it to bounce and crushed a forehand.

Game.Petzschner
08-04-2011, 01:58 PM
carreno just wastes a 0-30 at the start of the 2nd set i fear this set could be a short one

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 02:01 PM
Lets see if beck misses this opportunity too...

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 02:02 PM
People kind of killing the umpire now :lol:

Game.Petzschner
08-04-2011, 02:02 PM
Beck breaks leads 7-6,*2-0 now

Game.Petzschner
08-04-2011, 02:03 PM
carreno looks done now

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 02:04 PM
Carreño looks really out right now :spit:

FrankSolitario
08-04-2011, 02:05 PM
this happens when you're 19yo and you're not Nadal
choking serve and volley on set point and then lose the match in a quarter

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 02:05 PM
People encouraging pablo but lets see if it helps...

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 02:06 PM
People just dont shut up round here :o

FrankSolitario
08-04-2011, 02:07 PM
he lost it not only when he missed the volley on set point
the crucial point is that he was out of his mind; he forgot to change the court at 6-6 tie break
how mental is this sport...

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 02:08 PM
:Haha: what a smash

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 02:09 PM
People shouting to the umpire: hey how much were you paid for it? :lol:

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 02:10 PM
What a fhdtl!break point now

Game.Petzschner
08-04-2011, 02:12 PM
Lack of experience on that set point and actually beck played an almost identical point to save set point at *5-6

Game.Petzschner
08-04-2011, 02:13 PM
Beck holds 4-1*

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 02:18 PM
5-1 beck lets see if he wins this now or he chokes like he tried in the first...

FrankSolitario
08-04-2011, 02:21 PM
Pablo simply shitted in his pants
he did it before the match going 0-3* in front of the home crowd, then choked on set point and finally played an awful second set
what a bad effort

Game.Petzschner
08-04-2011, 02:31 PM
Really not impressive from carreno had 2 chances to win that first set while beck takes his first especially after coming back from a double break really should have won it.

Filo V.
08-04-2011, 02:32 PM
Good second set from Karol, Carreno predictably fell apart after losing the first set so badly. Karol started being much more aggressive in the second set and he served well overall outside of some poor lapses.

Probably not good enough to win his next match, however.

Filo V.
08-04-2011, 02:34 PM
I like Pablo but people saying he has special talent, I really can't see it at all. He's good, but he's not really any better than the journeymen challenger players I see.

CooCooCachoo
08-04-2011, 02:38 PM
It sucks seeing Beck in the QF here :mad: Carreño has himself to blame for losing that first set.

FrankSolitario
08-04-2011, 02:44 PM
It sucks seeing Beck in the QF here :mad: Carreño has himself to blame for losing that first set.

It's the same tennis level he played winning three games against Jaziri
Good first serve (expecially from the left side) and nothing else.

Would love to see Henka play his tennis and reach at least the semifinals
he has really a great chance in the draw
i can see only Mahut in the other half at the moment

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 02:56 PM
Come on henkka 4 minutes to go!!:D

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 02:59 PM
Im the guy with an adidas visor just behind bautistas's chair :lol:

FrankSolitario
08-04-2011, 03:03 PM
Im the guy with an adidas visor just behind bautistas's chair :lol:

just distract him with some weird movement! :devil:
or at least bring bad luck with superstitious gestures...

probably the crowd would kill you!

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 03:09 PM
Yeah probably :lol: here no one is going with henkka :lol: except me

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 03:13 PM
Yay henkka broke!!

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 03:17 PM
Henkka *2-1

Lopez
08-04-2011, 03:19 PM
Thanks for updating the scores, the live stream died on me. Go Henkka!

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 03:22 PM
What a talent he has!

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 03:23 PM
Henkka 3-1*

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 03:24 PM
Henkka *3-2 now

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 03:29 PM
40-15...

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 03:31 PM
Deuce, 2 missed volleys up to date

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 03:31 PM
Serve and volley adv kontinen

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 03:32 PM
Nice one, 4-2*

FrankSolitario
08-04-2011, 03:35 PM
the match is not entertaining at the moment
just a couple of well touched demi-volee by henka

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 03:36 PM
Henkka *4-3

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 03:40 PM
Bautista celebrating an ue to 3+-30 :spit:

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 03:41 PM
2 aces on second serve in this game, henkka 5-3*

Raymz
08-04-2011, 03:44 PM
Didn't know Kontinen's serve is such a bomb. Hit few 225+ kmh. Not so hard to volley if serve like that!

Nathaliia
08-04-2011, 03:46 PM
yeah his serve is his main weapon i think....

photos part 1 - as promised :p
http://www.tennisalternative.com/segovia-challenger-2011-photo-gallery-part-1-rn828.html

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 03:48 PM
6-4 henkka :woohoo:

Lopez
08-04-2011, 03:49 PM
Stream started working again. Henkka is serving huge, needs to pick up the ground game though to get another break.

FrankSolitario
08-04-2011, 03:52 PM
Bautista suffered the early break
I have the impression that Kontinen could play A LOT better but is lazy on the big advantage of an untouchable first but almost second serve
One of the best second serve on the circuit IMO
But Bautista deserved more on what we saw since now

Xam'd
08-04-2011, 03:53 PM
Yep, Henri not playing well today, will be tough to win only with serve for sure -.-.

FrankSolitario
08-04-2011, 03:59 PM
Today the backhand volley is out of order and at the same time Bautista in answering well at the serve
Henka has to push the spaniard at the tie-break
He is struggling his serve games more than his opponent

Lopez
08-04-2011, 03:59 PM
The commentator on the stream is quite clueless though :lol:. He doesn't seem to know a lot about the players beforehand. When the match started, he remarked that Kontinen wasn't serving as hard as Bautista after Henri hit a couple of serves with big spin. He's wizened up since then ;).

Lopez
08-04-2011, 04:15 PM
Damn, Henkka got broken after a poor game on serve :(

FrankSolitario
08-04-2011, 04:19 PM
i just had the feeling that Bautista was going to take it...
i have bad feeling for the rest of the match
Bautista is playing better at all

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 04:20 PM
Henkka :(

Filo V.
08-04-2011, 04:22 PM
Gabashvili def. Mektic 7-5 2-6 6-2

Good result.

I love Kontinen's game, even though it's off today, he's offensive and makes the plays.

Lopez
08-04-2011, 04:34 PM
Henkka needs to get to Bautista's backhand more and approach the net there.

Nice return dropshot from Henkka :yeah:

Lopez
08-04-2011, 04:38 PM
Huge slice return and the break! Come on Henkka!

Lopez
08-04-2011, 04:42 PM
Henkka from 40-15 up to giving Bautista a break point...

Lopez
08-04-2011, 04:49 PM
Total shift of momentum, Henkka misses 3 easy volleys and a chance to go break up for Bautista

Lopez
08-04-2011, 04:51 PM
You'd think Kontinen would stop with those volleys after 3 into the net in a row :lol:

That's not his style, he keeps going for it :).

3 break points saved, but a huge pass from Bautista gives him a fourth.

Honzicekkk
08-04-2011, 04:55 PM
You gotta love his play!thumbs up for Henkka!

Lopez
08-04-2011, 05:04 PM
Henkka struggling again on serve but manages to hold and save a break point with a huge second serve. 4-3, Bautista to serve.

CooCooCachoo
08-04-2011, 05:07 PM
Bautista's shirt is offensive.

CooCooCachoo
08-04-2011, 05:20 PM
Really excellent play from the Spaniard on these three MPs.

Lopez
08-04-2011, 05:21 PM
Good play from Bautista to save 3 match points. Deuce still.

CooCooCachoo
08-04-2011, 05:25 PM
Kontinen takes out Bautista-Agut 6-4 in the final set.

That's the umpteenth match this tournament that looked to be heading towards a final breaker, but with the server faltering to stay in the match at *4-5.

Glad to see Kontinen advance, but sad to see Bautista go out at the same time. Both really enjoyable players to watch. Pretty disappointing that the Spaniard refused to shake the umpire's hand; I think the decision not to overrule was the correct one.

Filo V.
08-04-2011, 05:26 PM
That final serve was out :lol:

Good for Kontinen to win though :yeah:

Now Karol needs to take him to the cleaners.

Xam'd
08-04-2011, 05:26 PM
Wow, Henri mostly returning horribly whole match but luckily was able to play two good return games in third which were just enough to win.

FrankSolitario
08-04-2011, 05:31 PM
I'm happy for Henri but Bautista deserved more
I think that the crucial points have been those on 2-2 0-40, when he saved three break points with three fine volleys
Another crucial factor was to serve first in the third that means every break point on 5-4 is a match point
Anyway i rooted for Kontinen hoping that he will little by little extend those 9-10 wonderful shots he did today throughout the whole match
By the way the backhand return on last matchpoint was superb

Linque
08-04-2011, 05:41 PM
It's no surprise that Kontinen's groundstrokes and returns are shaky since he's been injured for so long. Good thing he has the serve so it gives him time to get the strokes going in game. Great win from him.

Xam'd
08-04-2011, 05:43 PM
Gotta agree Bautista was better player there, he must feel horrible loosing that.

CooCooCachoo
08-04-2011, 05:54 PM
Sousa has a big serve :eek:

*1-1

CooCooCachoo
08-04-2011, 06:17 PM
Marco struggling immensely on each service game, but holds. And then breaks Sousa.

Marco *4-3

Nathaliia
08-04-2011, 07:30 PM
Sousa was 6-3 in the tiebreak and lost it :lol:

pozzanghera
08-04-2011, 07:58 PM
That was better than another mauling by Kukushkin. The level of fight was good to see. :)

Sombrerero loco
08-04-2011, 10:28 PM
henkka played awful tennis today, not even similar to the other day against de schepper...missing too many volleys, too many double faults and ues :tape: he was lucky to win today

Smoke944
08-05-2011, 01:51 AM
Are there streams for this?

Filo V.
08-05-2011, 03:18 AM
Yes, but for some reason they don't show them until essentially the matches start.

Hopefully Karol, Gaba and Mahut win their matches.

Smoke944
08-05-2011, 03:19 AM
Yes, but for some reason they don't show them until essentially the matches start.

Hopefully Karol, Gaba and Mahut win their matches.

Ok, good. Some very interesting matches tomorrow.

Filo V.
08-05-2011, 03:27 AM
Definitely, particularly Kontinen v Beck. I think Karol's biggest strength, his return, makes this a good match-up for him, Kontinen has played two tough matches, hasn't been great from the baseline and I expect Karol to win. But Kontinen has a big serve and can put pressure on Beck. So it's definitely an open match.

Filo V.
08-05-2011, 03:30 AM
Also Burquier v Martin should be interesting. Specifically, can Martin keep up his hot form. We'll see if he can, if he does, he should win.

RonaldGomez
08-05-2011, 12:58 PM
Burquier def. Martin 6/7(8) 6/4 6/4. End of magical run for Fabrice.

ted
08-05-2011, 01:08 PM
I dont know how Martin could won tittle , he is lumber, only serve, his volleys nc :D

Filo V.
08-05-2011, 01:16 PM
Martin wore down physically. Not a surprise. His right knee was bothering him. Burquier has an interesting game but this is the best I've ever seen him play.

Great opportunity for Mahut/Donskoy.

BreakBandit
08-05-2011, 01:27 PM
it was the first time that i took martin in this last weeks,and he lost. i cant´t believe,how that idiot won an event??bad game he have.sometimes good shots.movement is weak.this burger lost only 5 points on serve in the last two sets,and his serve is really nothing special.

Filo V.
08-05-2011, 01:38 PM
To be fair, Burquier's lefty-sliding serve out wide and to Martin's body is definitely more effective it would be against other players because Martin is bigger and less mobile.

Filo V.
08-05-2011, 01:39 PM
Donskoy is playing a nice match.

Nico upset about a serve call that was clearly out.

ted
08-05-2011, 01:45 PM
btw Martin in 3rd set had one broken from *40-0 (one point for Burger thanks by net), if he would kept it , maybe win in TB like in 1st set



Donskoy plays very good, not many ue

Frederick16
08-05-2011, 01:46 PM
I saw Martin hitting a volley, wich he could have put away every where because of the open field, right on his countryman. He didn't even put up his hand or so... Asshole..

ted
08-05-2011, 01:48 PM
his approach to net was awful, volles in net, weak dropshots on enemy's rocket

he was elapsed every time

Filo V.
08-05-2011, 02:02 PM
Donskoy took the set 7-6(4)

Really high level tennis from Donskoy, I can see his potential today. Good serving, good backhand. Not a big weapon but consistent.

Mahut needs to come back. The opportunity at this event is so huge, it would be terrible if he doesn't get it.

ted
08-05-2011, 02:10 PM
donskoy break, its end for mahut

Nathaliia
08-05-2011, 02:26 PM
I like Donskoy :)

Photo Gallery part 2 :wavey:
http://www.tennisalternative.com/segovia-tennis-challenger-2011-photo-gallery-part-2-rn831.html

ted
08-05-2011, 02:44 PM
nice match, mahut saved 2mp and rebreak ! donskoy got angry and throw rocket