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WWW Wimbledon R3 - [28]D.Nalbandian V [3]R.Federer

freeandlonely
06-23-2011, 08:21 PM
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H-H Federer leads 10-8

2002 AMS Monte-Carlo R32
Nalbandian 6-2 6-1

2002 Basel SF
Nalbandian 6-7 7-5 6-3

2003 Australian Open R16
Nalbandian 6-4 3-6 6-1 1-6 6-3

2003 AMS Cincinnati R32
Nalbandian 7-6 7-6

2003 US Open R16
Nalbandian 3-6 7-6 6-4 6-3

2003 TMC Houston RR
Federer 6-3 6-0

2004 Australian Open QF
Federer 7-5 6-4 5-7 6-3

2005 US Open QF
Federer 6-2 6-4 6-1

2005 TMC Shanghai RR
Federer 6-3 2-6 6-4

2005 TMC Shanghai F
Nalbandian 6-7 6-7 6-2 6-1 7-6

2006 AMS Rome SF
Federer 6-3 3-6 7-6

2006 Roland Garros SF
Federer 3-6 6-4 5-2 RET

2006 AMS Madrid SF
Federer 6-4 6-0

2006 TMC Shanghai RR
Federer 3-6 6-1 6-1

2007 AMS Madrid F
Nalbandian 1-6 6-3 6-3

2007 AMS Paris R16
Nalbandian 6-4 7-6

2008 AMS Monte-Carlo QF
Federer 5-7 6-2 6-2

2008 Basel F
Federer 6-3 6-4

TO BE CONTINUED - 19th at SW19

theKSHE
06-23-2011, 08:22 PM
Roger straight sets.

Jaz
06-23-2011, 08:23 PM
Easy for Federer.

TennisLurker
06-23-2011, 08:24 PM
Easy win for Fed

If Fat Dave wins I will shave my balls

abraxas21
06-23-2011, 08:25 PM
most likely scenario is federer in 4 tight sets. possibly a five setter if he has too many mental lapses. however, if federror is in the court for the entire or most of the match, nalbandian will win.

Certinfy
06-23-2011, 08:26 PM
Nalbandian in 4. Really hope this is indoors.

abraxas21
06-23-2011, 08:26 PM
the draw from hell continues

nalbandian is a big threat and one of the best grass players of the current era.

you and other nadaltards would be shitting their pants if nalbandian was playing the pig in R3

Sham Kay
06-23-2011, 08:28 PM
Fed in 3.

I find it funny how there is still no results thread but two WWW's.

Clydey
06-23-2011, 08:28 PM
Federer is playing as well as he ever has, despite what the NostalgiaTards say. Nalby isn't playing well enough right now.

rofe
06-23-2011, 08:30 PM
I can easily see Nably being ultra focussed and playing in top gear against Roger so Roger will have to bring on his A game.

I am still going with Fed but it will be a tight match.

3rd round is too soon to see these two play against each other.

abraxas21
06-23-2011, 08:30 PM
Federer is playing as well as he ever has

:facepalm:

iriraz
06-23-2011, 08:30 PM
Nalbandian was pretty poor today,good enough to beat a challenger type of player but miles away from his best days.For Federer,this match can be similar to the Hewitt or Safin matches he had in Australia a few years ago.Lots of hype but pretty straightforward matches in the end

octatennis
06-23-2011, 08:31 PM
nalby in 4, this is his GS. or ask stephan.

TheRafaelNadal
06-23-2011, 08:33 PM
nalbandian is a big threat and one of the best grass players of the current era.

you and other nadaltards would be shitting their pants if nalbandian was playing the pig in R3

1 wimbledon Final, and that's about it. What a great grass court player.

TennisLurker
06-23-2011, 08:34 PM
Nalbandian is far from playing acceptable tennis, and very very far from his best tennis.
I don't think Nalbandian will win more than three games in any set.

henke007
06-23-2011, 08:36 PM
Fed will destroy fatbandian.

Pirata.
06-23-2011, 08:36 PM
Depends on what's on the menu for breakfast on Saturday.

Roger in 3. Nalby could snatch a set, and I think it'll be fairly close, but Roger will win it in 3, or at the very least, 4.

Arakasi
06-23-2011, 08:36 PM
Federer is playing as well as he ever has, despite what the NostalgiaTards say.

:lol:

delboy
06-23-2011, 08:37 PM
Fatbandian was shit today, Fedmug will annihilate him if he plays like that. Hopefully Nalby wins but he won't. Fedmug in 3.

guga2120
06-23-2011, 08:39 PM
This is not a fit David, and its not indoors. Arrogant Swiss in 3.

Arkulari
06-23-2011, 08:41 PM
Roger in straights if he serves as well as he's doing lately.

Clydey
06-23-2011, 08:42 PM
:lol:

At the French and so far here, he has played as well as ever. Are you really suggesting that Federer has ever played as well at the French?

GugaF1
06-23-2011, 08:44 PM
Federer seems to be flying, but I am tired of seeing Nalbandian out of nowehere continue to challenge in big matches and rase his level a lot, so is impossible to count him out at all. At least not for a comptetetive match.

LawrenceOfTennis
06-23-2011, 08:44 PM
Federer in 3. But Nalbandian is one of the few players who could always trouble Federer.

Ravel
06-23-2011, 08:57 PM
Take it Feds!

tennishero
06-23-2011, 08:57 PM
it depends what nalbandian shows up on court. hopefully the one that is actually putting effort to win.

Fedexpress#11
06-23-2011, 08:57 PM
brad gilbert says its going to be a hard match for Fed. I doubt that highly

GOAT = Fed
06-23-2011, 08:58 PM
Federer in 3 easy sets I'd say. Nice to see the old time reunion though of the Federer era. Federer should win close to the score:

7-5, 6-3, 6-1.

Can see the first set being tight, depending on how Nalbandian comes out.

Arakasi
06-23-2011, 08:59 PM
At the French and so far here, he has played as well as ever. Are you really suggesting that Federer has ever played as well at the French?

Federer is well past his best. He can still play incredible tennis (like he did against Djokovic in the French) but no one can turn back the clock. Matches like that are once in a blue moon nowadays and don't change the fact that he turns 30 in just over a month.

You refuse to believe that Federer's level the last few years is significantly below what it once was because it suits your agenda. If you admitted that then you would have to accept that he can still compete and often outplay Murray, Djokovic et al. even though he has been declining for a long time.

LocoPorElTenis
06-23-2011, 09:03 PM
R. Federer in 3 easy sets :sad:

tennizen
06-23-2011, 09:05 PM
Don't think it will be that easy. Should be close for a couple of sets and Nalby may take a set.

homogenius
06-23-2011, 09:06 PM
Federer is well past his best. He can still play incredible tennis (like he did against Djokovic in the French) but no one can turn back the clock. Matches like that are once in a blue moon nowadays and don't change the fact that he turns 30 in just over a month.

You refuse to believe that Federer's level the last few years is significantly below what it once was because it suits your agenda. If you admitted that then you would have to accept that he can still compete and often outplay Murray, Djokovic et al. even though he has been declining for a long time.

the age excuse is becoming really boring.He is 29/30, not 60.

JediFed
06-23-2011, 09:09 PM
18 matches, none on Grass. :D

Arakasi
06-23-2011, 09:12 PM
the age excuse is becoming really boring.He is 29/30, not 60.

You're right. Some people act like he's on his death bed. He's not. He has played fantastic tennis for most of the past 12 months. Equally, those people who pretend he's somehow managing to defy nature and isn't in decline are just as deluded.

yesh222
06-23-2011, 09:15 PM
There was a thread a while back about players who met in all four Slams. If I am not mistaken Federer and Nalbandian have met at every Slam so far except Wimbledon, correct?

samanosuke
06-23-2011, 09:15 PM
Doubt that even peak Nalbandian would have beaten even this version of Fed on grass . Just hope Nalby will stay healthy for some time

MalwareDie
06-23-2011, 09:17 PM
Nalbandian was never that good on grass. MonoFed would have beaten Bandy in straights.

NJ88
06-23-2011, 09:18 PM
Could be a good match but I don't think it will be that close. Federer in three.

hipolymer
06-23-2011, 09:18 PM
All it takes is one bad match. Nalby in 4.

shiaben
06-23-2011, 09:19 PM
Federer in 3 sets.

Speed of Light
06-23-2011, 09:23 PM
Fat Dave is still on the tour?
I thought he retired two years ago.
Was he called back from retirement by the tournament officials just to give their lovechild an easier draw into the finals?

MatchFederer
06-23-2011, 09:23 PM
Federer is playing as well as he ever has, despite what the NostalgiaTards say. Nalby isn't playing well enough right now.

Give it up. His level isn't massively lower than prime-time but it's clearly inferior with regards to movement, which effects a lot of the rest of his game in small ways.

RIboy
06-23-2011, 09:24 PM
Fit Dave will win...






... few games

JediFed
06-23-2011, 09:28 PM
If I am not mistaken Federer and Nalbandian have met at every Slam so far except Wimbledon, correct?


I believe the closest they've been is when Nalbandian lost to Verdasco in '06 when he was in Fed's half. Had he beaten Verdasco, Stepanek and Johanssen he would have played Fed.

Amazing that they've both played as long as they have and never played each other at Wimbledon.

homogenius
06-23-2011, 09:31 PM
You're right. Some people act like he's on his death bed. He's not. He has played fantastic tennis for most of the past 12 months. Equally, those people who pretend he's somehow managing to defy nature and isn't in decline are just as deluded.

What do you mean by decline ? Physically ? I don't see signs of that.Sure he can't bring the same level all year but it's not necessarily due to him drastically declining.I think it has more to do with the fact that when things got tough, he showed he's not the most solid mentally.He had a hard time dealing with the fact that not only nadal but now players like Del Po, Novak, Muray can challenge him (and even dominate him like Novak this year).That being said, he obviously found a new breath, is on his best surface and is playing really well atm so Clydey was right.Using the age thing is useless imo.

MatchFederer
06-23-2011, 09:35 PM
What do you mean by decline ? Physically ? I don't see signs of that.Sure he can't bring the same level all year but it's not necessarily due to him drastically declining.I think it has more to do with the fact that when things got tough, he showed he's not the most solid mentally.He had a hard time dealing with the fact that not only nadal but now players like Del Po, Novak, Muray can challenge him (and even dominate him like Novak this year).That being said, he obviously found a new breath, is on his best surface and is playing really well atm so Clydey was right.Using the age thing is useless imo.

If you can't see that Fed is slower than he was in his pomp then I can only presume you have terrible memory or just didn't see much of him during prime-time. His passing shots used to be vastly superior due to better explosiveness off the mark. He added a superior dropper to his game but the consistency of his serve, his slice stroke, movement and by extension his passing shots and general stroke consistency, have declined.

But he is certainly nowhere near being on his deathbed. He is producing a VERY high standard of tennis which is slightly below Peakerer...

JanKowalski
06-23-2011, 09:41 PM
There was a thread a while back about players who met in all four Slams. If I am not mistaken Federer and Nalbandian have met at every Slam so far except Wimbledon, correct?

They never met on grass, not only Wimbledon.

As for Fed's current level, I'd say he's playing similarly to 2009, which is better than 2008 and 2010 (apart from AO and WTF), but below 2004-2007. His serve, return, movement, passing shots, confidence, even volleys, so basically everything, is worse than in that period. And no, it doesn't mean he's on a deathbed. He's still amazing to watch now, but he was even more amazing in his prime.

MIMIC
06-23-2011, 09:43 PM
Federer will probably win in 3 but this is nonetheless the first "interesting" match for one of the top 4 guys (since Raonic won't be playing Nadal now).

MatchFederer
06-23-2011, 09:44 PM
It's all over.

homogenius
06-23-2011, 09:51 PM
If you can't see that Fed is slower than he was in his pomp then I can only presume you have terrible memory or just didn't see much of him during prime-time. His passing shots used to be vastly superior due to better explosiveness off the mark. He added a superior dropper to his game but the consistency of his serve, his slice stroke, movement and by extension his passing shots and general stroke consistency, have declined.

But he is certainly nowhere near being on his deathbed. He is producing a VERY high standard of tennis which is slightly below Peakerer...

Fair enough but why only focusing on his side.Players like Djoko are obviously better than what they were in the past.For me Roger's losses to Novak in the past year have more to do with Novak raising his level of play than Fed actually declining.In the RG's final, Fed's level was as good as it could have been in this context so the loss was not due to his level decreasing either etc...It's just that even playing quite average/badly, Nadal is way stronger than Fed mentally.Maybe at one point some Fed fans could aknowledge that there are other players and count them in the equation instead of judging everything under the prism of 2006/07 Fed's level.

Corey Feldman
06-23-2011, 09:52 PM
doesnt seem like Nalbandy is playing near his peak but he is someone who can turn it on from no where - for a big big match

MatchFederer
06-23-2011, 09:54 PM
Fair enough but why only focusing on his side.Players like Djoko are obviously better than what they were in the past.For me Roger's losses to Novak in the past year have more to do with Novak raising his level of play than Fed actually declining.In the RG's final, Fed's level was as good as it could have been in this context so the loss was not due to his level decreasing either etc...It's just that even playing quite average/badly, Nadal is way stronger than Fed mentally.Maybe at one point some Fed fans could aknowledge that there are other players and count them in the equation instead of judging everything under the prism of 2006/07 Fed's level.

Because i wasn't addressing era questions, just whether Fed's top level is as good or not as it was in the past, mainly in response to Clydey's post on page 1. I haven't denied any other things you have stated in your posts, only that 'you don't see signs' of Federer's physical decline, and so I had to step in. If I had any contentions with anything else you have stated I would have mentioned them already.

MatchFederer
06-23-2011, 09:57 PM
Btw, I'll quickly mention that you talk of the 06 - 07 prism. In my opinion it would be fair to define the 'prism' as 04 - 09. It can get annoying when people only reference a couple of years as the barometer.

homogenius
06-23-2011, 09:58 PM
Because i wasn't addressing era questions, just whether Fed's top level is as good or not as it was in the past, mainly in response to Clydey's post on page 1. I haven't denied any other things you have stated in your posts, only that 'you don't see signs' of Federer's physical decline, and so I had to step in. If I had any contentions with anything else you have stated I would have mentioned them already.

I just don't think the "one step slower" argument is that significant.Fed's weakness is more mental than physical imo.Just look at Nadal : his level really dropped this year (for the most part)and yet he has been reaching finals and winning some titles.That's what differenciate him from Fed.

Corey Feldman
06-23-2011, 10:03 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2006/0609/ten_federer_nalbandian_275.jpg

TMJordan
06-23-2011, 10:03 PM
6-3 6-2 6-1

will be a clinic and dave heads to the buffet early

Deivid23
06-23-2011, 10:04 PM
Federer will storm into a 6-2 lead, will walk away mentally a bit in the second just to win it in a tie-break and will bagel an uninterested Nalbandian in the 3rd. Hope this helps

MatchFederer
06-23-2011, 10:05 PM
I just don't think the "one step slower" argument is that significant.Fed's weakness is more mental than physical imo.Just look at Nadal : his level really dropped this year (for the most part)and yet he has been reaching finals and winning some titles.That's what differenciate him from Fed.

If you want a short response as to what is significant then here it is. Yes, Fed's lengthy career now, and his age, are certainly significant. The improvements from the young rivals are certainly significant. The changes in general playing conditions (a bit slower generally year on year) are certainly significant. All these things are significant in shaping the landscape of tennis right now. Not many players in history could put up the same physical and mental efforts at 29/30 that they could at 22 - 27. The same decreases in physical and mental ability will be seen in Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, Del Potro too in 2 or 3 years time and these sort of conversations will arise again.

If you want my own personal answer of, do I believe Federer would be winning more slams currently if he could be in his physical and mental tennis prime then the answer is yes, I have rather little doubt about that. Do I believe he would be as dominant as he was in his prime-time? The answer is no, the top rivals are stronger.

KarlyM
06-23-2011, 10:12 PM
The players with injury issues on the downside of their careers seem to be turning back the clock a bit in this tournament by putting up some big fight. But I think Federer will still win - in 4 or 5 though.

barbadosan
06-23-2011, 10:17 PM
I just don't think the "one step slower" argument is that significant.Fed's weakness is more mental than physical imo.Just look at Nadal : his level really dropped this year (for the most part)and yet he has been reaching finals and winning some titles.That's what differenciate him from Fed.

So you mean that all those commentators who from time to time through the years have remarked that Fed found a way to win even though he wasn't playing at his best level, were all dreaming? and/or deluded. That those of us who saw the same thing were equally so? This mantra of "mental weakness" ignores the fact that many, many times Fed has shown himself as mentally strong as anyone else. But pardon me, as far some people are concerned, any time Fed has, for instance, come back from 2 sets down and won, or come from behind and won, it's only been because the other person crumbled - it's never ever been because of anything Fed brought to bear - including his mental strength.

homogenius
06-23-2011, 10:24 PM
If you want a short response as to what is significant then here it is. Yes, Fed's lengthy career now, and his age, are certainly significant. The improvements from the young rivals are certainly significant. The changes in general playing conditions (a bit slower generally year on year) are certainly significant. All these things are significant in shaping the landscape of tennis right now. Not many players in history could put up the same physical and mental efforts at 29/30 that they could at 22 - 27. The same decreases in physical and mental ability will be seen in Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, Del Potro too in 2 or 3 years time and these sort of conversations will arise again.

If you want my own personal answer of, do I believe Federer would be winning more slams currently if he could be in his physical and mental tennis prime then the answer is yes, I have rather little doubt about that. Do I believe he would be as dominant as he was in his prime-time? The answer is no, the top rivals are stronger.

Fed never had a physicallly demanding game ala Nadal and almost never faced serious injuries in his career.Also, as proven by his form lately, he is like some other top players from the past : still able to produce his best tennis at 29/30 and older :shrug: The main problem is that more often than not it's not enough to beat someone like Djoko anymore and/or when a player challenges him and he can't force his game to the other, he gets frustrated as if it is a crime of lèse-majesté and crumbles.In other words, he shows less balls than someone like Nadal who will do what is needed to win no matter what it cost (meaning if it takes an ugly dogfight he'll do it and accept that he can't produce his best tennis in this particular match).The last 2 things are more significant to me than Roger's age.Just my 2 cents.

MatchFederer
06-23-2011, 10:26 PM
Fed never had a physicallly demanding game ala Nadal and almost never faced serious injuries in his career.Also, as proven by his form lately, he is like some other top players from the past : still able to produce his best tennis at 29/30 and older :shrug: The main problem is that more often than not it's not enough to beat someone like Djoko anymore and/or when a player challenges him and he can't force his game to the other, he gets frustrated as if it is a crime of lèse-majesté and crumbles.In other words, he shows less balls than someone like Nadal who will do what is needed to win no matter what it cost (meaning if it takes an ugly dogfight he'll do it and accept that he can't produce his best tennis in this particular match).The last 2 things are more significant to me than Roger's age.Just my 2 cents.

They are all intrinsic and irrevocably intertwined.

P.s. you underrate Federer's mental strength. Historically it's certainly been better than Djokovic's that's pretty much for sure.

Peace out.

tennishero
06-23-2011, 10:32 PM
the age excuse is becoming really boring.He is 29/30, not 60.

exactly

homogenius
06-23-2011, 10:35 PM
So you mean that all those commentators who from time to time through the years have remarked that Fed found a way to win even though he wasn't playing at his best level, were all dreaming? and/or deluded. That those of us who saw the same thing were equally so? This mantra of "mental weakness" ignores the fact that many, many times Fed has shown himself as mentally strong as anyone else. But pardon me, as far some people are concerned, any time Fed has, for instance, come back from 2 sets down and won, or come from behind and won, it's only been because the other person crumbled - it's never ever been because of anything Fed brought to bear - including his mental strength.

No I mean that when there was a clear difference in level of play between him and most of the others it was way easier for him to appear mentally strong.Now he can play fairly decent tennis and even raise his game at important times, it won't necessarily win him the match.I think it took a while for him to accept that and slowly but surely he kinda lost the supreme confidence he once had in his game.Hence the mental fragility he showed against Rafa all these years appearing more and more frequently against some others as well in the past 2 years.

dombrfc
06-23-2011, 10:38 PM
Ill do Certinfy and Johnny Blaze's predictions for them:

Nalbandian.

Mario000
06-23-2011, 11:00 PM
if nalby wins this, he will loose next round in 3 easy sets

Sonja1989
06-23-2011, 11:03 PM
This Nalbandian is far away from old himself, Federer wins in three who is fantastic so far.

JediFed
06-23-2011, 11:18 PM
he shows less balls than someone like Nadal


The same guy who nearly got bounced out of the FO in the first round? To a serve bot?

viruzzz
06-23-2011, 11:21 PM
I'll be cheering for both.
Any result will please me, I just hope to see good tennis and enjoy a great match.

Ibracadabra
06-23-2011, 11:52 PM
If nalbandian is inspire, david in 4.

!VamosRafa!
06-24-2011, 12:04 AM
Fed master class in 3:worship:
something like 6-3 6-2 7-6

Zinn
06-24-2011, 12:08 AM
I'm guessing three or four sets in Federer's favor

MaxPower
06-24-2011, 12:09 AM
Well this match has potential to be a cracker. Part of me thinks Federer could routine it in 3 but Nalbandian can make this interesting especially if he's off to a good start.

Don't think Nalbandians questionable cardio is a big factor on grass. He just needs to keep the errors down and focus on the big points and he can trouble Federer for sure.

Federer in 4

!VamosRafa!
06-24-2011, 12:11 AM
1 wimbledon Final, and that's about it. What a great grass court player.

Dont forget his SF in Queens 2008http://www.tennisforum.com/images/smilies/oh.gif

Clydey
06-24-2011, 12:28 AM
Federer is well past his best. He can still play incredible tennis (like he did against Djokovic in the French) but no one can turn back the clock. Matches like that are once in a blue moon nowadays and don't change the fact that he turns 30 in just over a month.

You refuse to believe that Federer's level the last few years is significantly below what it once was because it suits your agenda. If you admitted that then you would have to accept that he can still compete and often outplay Murray, Djokovic et al. even though he has been declining for a long time.

I didn't say his level has been as good as ever for the last few years. Try actually reading what I wrote. I said 'right now' Federer is playing as well as ever. More specifically, he has played as well as he ever has since the start of the French Open.

Again, take the time to read what you are responding to.

Clydey
06-24-2011, 12:31 AM
Give it up. His level isn't massively lower than prime-time but it's clearly inferior with regards to movement, which effects a lot of the rest of his game in small ways.

Learn to read.

Fuck me, I'll break out the crayons and explain it in simple terms for you next time.

Topspindoctor
06-24-2011, 12:33 AM
Olderer 6-4 6-3 6-4.

MatchFederer
06-24-2011, 12:34 AM
I didn't say his level has been as good as ever for the last few years. Try actually reading what I wrote. I said 'right now' Federer is playing as well as ever. More specifically, he has played as well as he ever has since the start of the French Open.

Again, take the time to read what you are responding to.

Learn to read.

Fuck me, I'll break out the crayons and explain it in simple terms for you next time.


Insufficiently clear originally but now thanks for clarifying, that certainly makes much more sense.

makesmewonder
06-24-2011, 12:40 AM
Nalbadian will be harder but nothing Roger can handle.

sylacauga
06-24-2011, 12:44 AM
Fed wins in 3 with maybe one set going to a tiebreak.

fast_clay
06-24-2011, 12:53 AM
:lol: Clydey 'Bill Duke' McTaggart layin on the smackdown... good to see some GS form from the big lad...

anyways... more to the point... put the roof on every match and Indoor God Dave runs this shit

Johnny Groove
06-24-2011, 01:07 AM
Dave will take a set, probably something like:

6-3, 4-6, 6-4, 7-6 for Federer.

Clydey
06-24-2011, 06:32 AM
:lol: Clydey 'Bill Duke' McTaggart layin on the smackdown

http://img.listal.com/image/52841/936full-bill-duke.jpg

nalbyfan
06-24-2011, 11:34 AM
If Melzer and Gasquet beat goat cheese in 2011, why not Nalby ??

Oniegin
06-24-2011, 11:45 AM
nalbandian in 3 :devil:

Sophocles
06-24-2011, 11:50 AM
This is going to be a re-run of the U.S. Open quarter-final in '05: a total beatdown - roof or no roof. Fed isn't what he was - Nalbandian isn't a shadow of what he was.

Clydey's right that at the F.O. Federer played some of his best tennis, apart from a dodgy QF against Monfils. It was similar to other great post-peak runs, such as the 2008 U.S. or 2010 Australian Opens. Great players can still bring it for the odd tournament even when well into their decline. But was it as good as his best runs during his peak? Probably not. Even when he's playing well, Federer's passing shots in particular are far less reliable than they used to be. At his peak Federer had some of the best passing shots the game has ever seen. We forget this because he's since been overshadowed by Nadal & arguably Murray, who are even better in this respect, but Fed's passing shots used to be unreal, not just against guys with no clue on the approach such as Roddick, but against Sampras, Henman, Philippoussis, Ivanisevic, et al. Now you are pretty much guaranteed to win the point if you can get the ball wide to Fed's forehand, & the miraculous backhand flicks that used to be routine are rarely to be seen. That is a movement issue, & therefore an age-related issue.

Notwithstanding all that, he will still thrash Nalbandian.

ossie
06-24-2011, 01:07 PM
fitbandian of the old days could have posed a threat but i'm afraid fatbandian can only go down in straights.

Start da Game
06-24-2011, 02:18 PM
Federer is playing as well as he ever has, despite what the NostalgiaTards say. Nalby isn't playing well enough right now.

At the French and so far here, he has played as well as ever. Are you really suggesting that Federer has ever played as well at the French?

you should realize that you are trying to explain things to people who blindly rate 5 set wins over players like washed up agassi and lames flake better than victory over a player like djokovic.......

i know what is going to happen in this tournament too, something which has happened before not once or twice but seven times since 2005.......cake draws, goat songs until the final followed by weeping and mourning sessions.......

as for this match, king david needs to serve really well to stay in the hunt and see what develops but i doubt it......he's been out of shape for too long......

Arakasi
06-24-2011, 02:49 PM
At his peak Federer had some of the best passing shots the game has ever seen. We forget this because he's since been overshadowed by Nadal & arguably Murray, who are even better in this respect, but Fed's passing shots used to be unreal, not just against guys with no clue on the approach such as Roddick, but against Sampras, Henman, Philippoussis, Ivanisevic, et al. Now you are pretty much guaranteed to win the point if you can get the ball wide to Fed's forehand, & the miraculous backhand flicks that used to be routine are rarely to be seen. That is a movement issue, & therefore an age-related issue.

:scratch:

Pirao666
06-24-2011, 02:51 PM
Federer will win, defeating one of the most overrated players ever once again.

cutesteve22
06-24-2011, 04:44 PM
I can't imagine 30 percent vote for Nalby

ballbasher101
06-24-2011, 04:59 PM
Burgerbandian has no chance. Whoever says otherwise needs to be locked up. The Swiss in 3.

Poirot123
06-24-2011, 10:10 PM
Federer will win this match in 3. Post the Mannorino match, Federer was asked about Nalbandian. He said he was a 'dark horse' as he had a lot of trouble with him, but then he said he had 'turned the head to head around' and then said he was "one of his genreation, along with Hewitt, Safin, although he's gone now, and Roddick".

Really, that whole interview just showed how Federer has endured over the years and is still competing with the new genreation, whilst his generation has vanished off the map. Only really Roddick remains in touch with the very best, and he's not been competitive since 2009. For me it just shows how excellent Federer is and has been, that he is now transcending genreations. Nalbandian hasn't endured. And as a consequence, will go down in 3 in my opinion.

EliSter
06-24-2011, 11:08 PM
Nalbandiantards :o Fedmug in 3...

Mungo
06-25-2011, 12:00 AM
nalbandian is a big threat and one of the best grass players of the current era.

you and other nadaltards would be shitting their pants if nalbandian was playing the pig in R3

hahaha what has nalbandian done on grass apart from reaching one fluke Wimbledon final long time ago in a week era?

he's playing the pig in R3 and i'm not shitting my pants, you see? :cool:

Hola Mr. SK
06-25-2011, 12:25 AM
indoors baby indoors!
Nalbandian in 5! Vamossss!

Argenbrit
06-25-2011, 12:31 AM
For the old times! Vamoooosss. :rocker2:


I'd like to see a good match at least.

Manequin75
06-25-2011, 02:10 AM
why is this match even being played? seriously fed should be given a bye so the backed up matches could be completed. I will be shocked if Fed loses more than 10 games...

Manequin75
06-25-2011, 02:11 AM
30% think Nalby wins? These people cannot be SERIOUS........

Say Hey Kid
06-25-2011, 02:12 AM
Federer of course - but Nalbandian could potentially give him fits. Don't under estimate Nalbandian.

dabeast
06-25-2011, 04:48 AM
so much moaning in this thread... Fed-Nalbandian matchups are the best, who cares if both are no longer in their primes. 2 of the most outstanding pure talents for the past 8 years, there is no else in the game that Fed respects more on a pure talent level than the Argentine so I'm gonna just sit back and enjoy this. Let's hope for a good one :cool:

SERBINATOR
06-25-2011, 05:04 AM
Both players have well passed their PRIME but given the Indoor atmosphere it will be 50-50

both great indoor players, so let's close the Roof and ready to witness an EPIC battle

Hewitt =Legend
06-25-2011, 05:33 AM
Federer will win but Nalbandian lifts for these matches. First set could be crucial.

Topspindoctor
06-25-2011, 05:42 AM
nalbandian is a big threat and one of the best grass players of the current era.

you and other nadaltards would be shitting their pants if nalbandian was playing the pig in R3

Nadal would annihilatate Clownbandian in 3 sets.

Trust the organizers to rig the draw for Olderer to match him up against an opponent with WTA serve and forehand who'd rather be snacking on KFC instead of playing a tennis match :o

freeandlonely
06-25-2011, 05:58 AM
so much moaning in this thread... Fed-Nalbandian matchups are the best, who cares if both are no longer in their primes. 2 of the most outstanding pure talents for the past 8 years, there is no else in the game that Fed respects more on a pure talent level than the Argentine so I'm gonna just sit back and enjoy this. Let's hope for a good one :cool:

+1

iriraz
06-25-2011, 07:43 AM
To be a somewhat good match Nalbandian needs the first set.The longer the match goes,the more u have to favour Federer.I doubt Nalbandian will last at a high level more then 2 sets considering he hasn`t played a lot.Also his serve is pretty vulnerable serving lots of DF`s.

Sophocles
06-25-2011, 05:11 PM
This is going to be a re-run of the U.S. Open quarter-final in '05: a total beatdown - roof or no roof. Fed isn't what he was - Nalbandian isn't a shadow of what he was.

Please, no applause.

The only significant difference was that the 2005 USO QF was Federer in GOATerer mode (as he was throughout that tournament). This was pretty patchy from both players, apart from Fed's serve.

GSMnadal
06-25-2011, 05:12 PM
:lol: @ 36 people voting for Nalband.... oh wait, I was one of them :o