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Wimbledon R2 Nadal defeats Sweeting 6-3 6-2 6-4

Surcouf
06-22-2011, 06:39 PM
Nadal played well.

38 winners 7 UE

ufiors
06-22-2011, 06:40 PM
mm..... Raonic retires too....

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-22-2011, 06:41 PM
Rafa was awesome :worship:

tennisfan856
06-22-2011, 06:41 PM
sweeting is pathetic, an embarrassment to the atp tour. Even if his ranking is good enough for the main draw, he should be forced to play qualis.

theKSHE
06-22-2011, 06:42 PM
Sweetroll.

Fumus
06-22-2011, 06:43 PM
Sweeting put up a huge fight in the third. It's too bad he doesn't have the weaponry because he showed he's got heart.

Rafa was his typical stingy self not giving anything away for free and always capitalizing when his opponents tire or falter.

Muller will be a test.

bokehlicious
06-22-2011, 06:44 PM
such a tough draw for the grass god :unsure:

Certinfy
06-22-2011, 06:44 PM
Saw some of the third set and Sweeting was outplaying Nadal, shame the fightback seems to have come so late. Had no idea he could play that well. :eek:

Ad Wim
06-22-2011, 06:44 PM
Easy again. Rafa won't lose a set until SF, and probably not until the final.

Jaz
06-22-2011, 06:44 PM
I dont think Rafa will lose a set this entire tournament.

ajay
06-22-2011, 06:45 PM
gud victory for nadal .....
here ar natch stats
http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/stats/day10/1201ms.html

theKSHE
06-22-2011, 06:45 PM
I dont think Rafa will lose a set this entire tournament.

http://www.stileros.net/files/posted_images/user_1194_72_dpi_irony_detector_1290719905_602804. jpg

Hope.

Langers
06-22-2011, 06:45 PM
Very solid 1st set, outstanding 2nd, rather mediocre 3rd.

Sweeting was real aggressive in the 3rd and Nadal struggled a tad against it.

Rafa looked good though, promising for his chances.

samanosuke
06-22-2011, 06:47 PM
sweeting on tennis court is pity stuff, sweeting with atp title is disgrace for the game, tennis with every nadal's slice reaching new low

TheRafaelNadal
06-22-2011, 06:47 PM
Depends who rafa palys, won't lose sets againxt Murray or Djokerboy but if he plays Federer he might lose 1 or even 2.

yesh222
06-22-2011, 06:51 PM
Sweeting looks like he's getting better almost every tournament. He could definitely be a top 30 someday very soon. Showed great fight.

Certinfy
06-22-2011, 06:52 PM
Sweeting looks like he's getting better almost every tournament. He could definitely be a top 30 someday very soon. Showed great fight.
J Mac said if he works on his serve he could be top 20. Not that I agree, but I do think top 30 could be a possibility if he improves that serve to what it should be for his height.

FormerRafaFan
06-22-2011, 06:55 PM
I can't believe Rafa got broken in the beginning of the third set.. he was up 40-0 FFS!!! Rafa needs to improve his serve. He can't afford to double fault and brain fart like that against Raonic/Muller, or in the upcoming matches after that.

On the positive side.. he got broken in the beginning of the set, so he had time to break him back, which he obviously did. He did it in 3. It wasn't the perfect match, but he was at times very good, and it's better that he does the mistakes now rather than in the tougher matches later. He didn't drop a set either, so that's good. I also saw some very nice shot making and the return and fighting spirit is still there. Again, as usual, my biggest worry about Rafa is his serve :help:

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-22-2011, 06:55 PM
sweeting is pathetic, an embarrassment to the atp tour. Even if his ranking is good enough for the main draw, he should be forced to play qualis.

Why? He tried to do his best and did well in the third set. Don't be harsh, he wasn't playing bad and the third set was so competitive.

It is that Rafa was just amazing. I like the new grass Rafa. He is playing a more grass game, closer to the base line and amazing volleying :hearts:. This style is more suitable for grass and it makes the matches faster which for sure decreases the exhaustion. Vamos Rafa :cool:. You never cease to amaze me, you improve your game every year. And thanks Uncle Tony too.
Rafa may need his old grass game if he faces a tougher opponent that's for sure, but till now it is working. :worship:

Surcouf
06-22-2011, 06:59 PM
I can't believe Rafa got broken in the beginning of the third set.. he was up 40-0 FFS!!! Rafa needs to improve his serve. He can't afford to double fault and brain fart like that against Raonic/Muller, or in the upcoming matches after that.

On the positive side.. he got broken in the beginning of the set, so he had time to break him back, which he obviously did. He did it in 3. It wasn't the perfect match, but he was at times very good, and it's better that he does the mistakes now rather than in the tougher matches later. He didn't drop a set either, so that's good. I also saw some very nice shot making and the return and fighting spirit is still there. Again, as usual, my biggest worry about Rafa is his serve :help:

Nadal had good stats on his serve

70% at 115 mph average and 9 aces.

I don't know why you cry just because he lost a service game when he was up 2 set a break.

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-22-2011, 06:59 PM
I can't believe Rafa got broken in the beginning of the third set.. he was up 40-0 FFS!!! Rafa needs to improve his serve. He can't afford to double fault and brain fart like that against Raonic/Muller, or in the upcoming matches after that.

On the positive side.. he got broken in the beginning of the set, so he had time to break him back, which he obviously did. He did it in 3. It wasn't the perfect match, but he was at times very good, and it's better that he does the mistakes now rather than in the tougher matches later. He didn't drop a set either, so that's good. I also saw some very nice shot making and the return and fighting spirit is still there. Again, as usual, my biggest worry about Rafa is his serve :help:

You are so negative. You can't see what Rafa is really playing.

Start da Game
06-22-2011, 07:00 PM
clinical......as you can see the backhand has picked up since the clay season.......there was only one way to get his backhand back to life and that was to hit through all the hesitation......he couldn't do that on clay as he was doubting himself way too much and had other options(as one would have on clay) like whether to keep defending or to just go for it or try the lob tricks, all that lead to indecisive thinking on the backhand and started killing his confidence on the wing even further, it bugged him all through the clay season.......

now on grass there is only one way, he is simply forced to hit through a lot as the surface is fast and that's basically bringing his backhand dynamics back.......

nadal is getting back to his best......

BULLZ1LLA
06-22-2011, 07:01 PM
(38 winners 7 unforced errors? Is that a career best ratio? It's been a while since I've seen it that good if ever)

Sunset of Age
06-22-2011, 07:28 PM
A good victory, Rafa played very well in the first two sets.
However - as the saying goes, "you only play as well as your opponent allows you to play", as was shown once again by Sweeting's change of tactics and attitude in the third set.

Rafa absolutely creamed Sweeting as long as Sweeting stayed passive. In the third set, Sweeting took a much more aggressive approach, and hence this set was closer than the scoreline suggest - with Rafa even allowing Sweeting a break of serve (due to Rafa losing his concentration? It surely looked like that). Of course Rafa set things straight quickly thereafter, but I can't help but think that he should still improve his game to reach the final, as there are a number of players looming on his side of the draw who are capable of playing aggressively right from the start.

Anyways, congrats, Rafa :hatoff: and :yeah: to Sweeting for at least showing some heart and good play in that third set.

tennisfan856
06-22-2011, 07:30 PM
Why? He tried to do his best and did well in the third set. Don't be harsh, he wasn't playing bad and the third set was so competitive.

It is that Rafa was just amazing. I like the new grass Rafa. He is playing a more grass game, closer to the base line and amazing volleying :hearts:. This style is more suitable for grass and it makes the matches faster which for sure decreases the exhaustion. Vamos Rafa :cool:. You never cease to amaze me, you improve your game every year. And thanks Uncle Tony too.
Rafa may need his old grass game if he faces a tougher opponent that's for sure, but till now it is working. :worship:

Because Sweeting is a mug with a piss-poor attitude on the court, one that you couldn't see today because he tried his best to behave on center court. I don't need American commentators to tell me that he can be a top 20 or 50 player when he obviously doesn't have any weapons. I wish Rafa gave him an Aussie whipping.

eduggs
06-22-2011, 07:36 PM
(38 winners 7 unforced errors? Is that a career best ratio? It's been a while since I've seen it that good if ever)

Nadal was efficient. But W/UE ratios at Wimbledon are useless. I counted more than 7 errors from Nadal in the 3rd set alone. The only way to be charged an UE is to net an easy overhead.

Nadal has a pretty good path to the final now. The two guys that I worry about most on grass against Rafa are Raonic and Djokovic. Raonic has the perfect game to battle Rafa on this surface. Huge serve, big, flat groundstrokes, competent at net, and solid under pressure. He lacks experience but sometimes this isn't such a bad thing when you're playing a legend.

50 other guys could beat Nadal on their best day, but the odds are low. Federer and to a lesser extent Murray, are in with a chance. But I was mostly worried about Raonic before the final.

Start da Game
06-22-2011, 07:43 PM
Because Sweeting is a mug with a piss-poor attitude on the court, one that you couldn't see today because he tried his best to behave on center court. I don't need American commentators to tell me that he can be a top 20 or 50 player when he obviously doesn't have any weapons. I wish Rafa gave him an Aussie whipping.

yes, i never understood why people hyped up sweeting's serve and most voted for him to win.......was that done in jest or were they serious?

Sunset of Age
06-22-2011, 07:47 PM
Nadal was efficient. But W/UE ratios at Wimbledon are useless. I counted more than 7 errors from Nadal in the 3rd set alone. The only way to be charged an UE is to net an easy overhead.

Nadal has a pretty good path to the final now. The two guys that I worry about most on grass against Rafa are Raonic and Djokovic. Raonic has the perfect game to battle Rafa on this surface. Huge serve, big, flat groundstrokes, competent at net, and solid under pressure. He lacks experience but sometimes this isn't such a bad thing when you're playing a legend.

50 other guys could beat Nadal on their best day, but the odds are low. Federer and to a lesser extent Murray, are in with a chance. But I was mostly worried about Raonic before the final.

Raonic is OUT. And I think you were expecting a little too much from him, tbh.
The only guy being able to trouble Rafa here until the SF is, imho, Berdych. Yes I know about the H2H, but Berdych has been playing extremely well so far.

Start da Game
06-22-2011, 07:48 PM
Nadal was efficient. But W/UE ratios at Wimbledon are useless. I counted more than 7 errors from Nadal in the 3rd set alone. The only way to be charged an UE is to net an easy overhead.

Nadal has a pretty good path to the final now. The two guys that I worry about most on grass against Rafa are Raonic and Djokovic. Raonic has the perfect game to battle Rafa on this surface. Huge serve, big, flat groundstrokes, competent at net, and solid under pressure. He lacks experience but sometimes this isn't such a bad thing when you're playing a legend.

50 other guys could beat Nadal on their best day, but the odds are low. Federer and to a lesser extent Murray, are in with a chance. But I was mostly worried about Raonic before the final.

garbage......raonic with such crap movement would have been wrongfooted and floored in the first game itself and packed back to canada.......

i am actually a little put off that nadal doesn't get the expected returning practice before the semis as raonic is out......nothing more than that.....

Start da Game
06-22-2011, 07:50 PM
Raonic is OUT. And I think you were expecting a little too much from him, tbh.
The only guy being able to trouble Rafa here until the SF is, imho, Berdych. Yes I know about the H2H, but Berdych has been playing extremely well so far.

that's right......berdych is the biggest hurdle as far as i am concerned......i don't think raonic would have pushed nadal to anything more than a couple of tie break sets even if he served at his best......they just have to forget about winning a set when nadal is playing this good.......

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-22-2011, 07:52 PM
A good victory, Rafa played very well in the first two sets.
However - as the saying goes, "you only play as well as your opponent allows you to play", as was shown once again by Sweeting's change of tactics and attitude in the third set.

Rafa absolutely creamed Sweeting as long as Sweeting stayed passive. In the third set, Sweeting took a much more aggressive approach, and hence this set was closer than the scoreline suggest - with Rafa even allowing Sweeting a break of serve (due to Rafa losing his concentration? It surely looked like that). Of course Rafa set things straight quickly thereafter, but I can't help but think that he should still improve his game to reach the final, as there are a number of players looming on his side of the draw who are capable of playing aggressively right from the start.

Anyways, congrats, Rafa :hatoff: and :yeah: to Sweeting for at least showing some heart and good play in that third set.

I just don't understand the reason of wanting Nadal to always feel the pressure even when he knows he is probably going to win. This attitude was good when he was 19 and was trying to make certain impossible shots and scores. But he really needs to be calmer because what he wants now is to win more Grand Slams and stay healthy.
Rafa has all what any tennis player needs to win Grand Slams and even more, he did it before and he is going to do it again. But you have to realize that he doesn't need to be completely focused from start to finish like a machine even when he doesn't need that pressure.
Your attitude of recognizing the only bad games in his matches is not good. It is not allowing you to recognize his progression as a tennis player. He is playing so much better than 5 years ago, he has more variety in his shots.
You need to stop being worried and enjoy the game.

NadalPhan
06-22-2011, 08:03 PM
A good victory, Rafa played very well in the first two sets.
However - as the saying goes, "you only play as well as your opponent allows you to play", as was shown once again by Sweeting's change of tactics and attitude in the third set.

Rafa absolutely creamed Sweeting as long as Sweeting stayed passive. In the third set, Sweeting took a much more aggressive approach, and hence this set was closer than the scoreline suggest - with Rafa even allowing Sweeting a break of serve (due to Rafa losing his concentration? It surely looked like that). Of course Rafa set things straight quickly thereafter, but I can't help but think that he should still improve his game to reach the final, as there are a number of players looming on his side of the draw who are capable of playing aggressively right from the start.

Anyways, congrats, Rafa :hatoff: and :yeah: to Sweeting for at least showing some heart and good play in that third set.


If he keeps playing the way he did today, nobody's beating Rafa. Not Federer, not Djokovic, nobody.

Topspin Forehand
06-22-2011, 08:06 PM
Nadal prefers Wimbledon over the French Open now? It seems that way. Maybe it is the type of balls that makes the difference. Nadal made way more unforced errors at the French Open. It is true though that big servers could still cause him problems. We'll see how Nadal handles Muller and possibly Del Potro.

star
06-22-2011, 08:15 PM
Nadal was efficient. But W/UE ratios at Wimbledon are useless. I counted more than 7 errors from Nadal in the 3rd set alone. The only way to be charged an UE is to net an easy overhead.

Nadal has a pretty good path to the final now. The two guys that I worry about most on grass against Rafa are Raonic and Djokovic. Raonic has the perfect game to battle Rafa on this surface. Huge serve, big, flat groundstrokes, competent at net, and solid under pressure. He lacks experience but sometimes this isn't such a bad thing when you're playing a legend.

50 other guys could beat Nadal on their best day, but the odds are low. Federer and to a lesser extent Murray, are in with a chance. But I was mostly worried about Raonic before the final.

Wow. Hard to believe Nadal is ranked so high when so many can beat him.

star
06-22-2011, 08:18 PM
Nadal prefers Wimbledon over the French Open now? It seems that way. Maybe it is the type of balls that makes the difference. Nadal made way more unforced errors at the French Open. It is true though that big servers could still cause him problems. We'll see how Nadal handles Muller and possibly Del Potro.

This has so much to do with the way UEs are counted at each tournament. Every missed ball at RG is counted as a UE no matter if the player is running hard to the ball and just can't make the shot. You can see this when you add winners and UEs and see that the equal the total points.

At Wimbledon, nothing at the net is counted as a UE. So, I think Rafter played a match once where he only had 4 UEs although he missed many volleys that perhaps he should have made.

I wouldn't make any comparison of players based on their UE count at each tournament.

LawrenceOfTennis
06-22-2011, 08:19 PM
cakewalk this

anticaria
06-22-2011, 08:29 PM
Nadal sweeps to Sweeting victory
Wednesday, 22 June 2011


Defending champion Rafael Nadal swept into the last 32 with another straight-sets victory over American opposition on Centre Court. This time the victim was Ryan Sweeting, who was sent packing 6-3 6-2 6-4 in two hours and seven minutes with the stadium roof closed to guard against inclement weather conditions.

Though he was slow into his stride, the Spaniard was virtually untouchable on serve for two of the three sets and by that stage he was playing well enough to fend off the comeback attempt which the 6ft 5in Sweeting produced in what proved to be the final set.

The 23-year-old Sweeting did well to match Nadal for power and aggression for much of the match, though he was eventually betrayed by a tendency to double-fault at key moments.

In addition to the brilliant serving which saw him concede only eight points in the first two sets, Nadal was the epitome of steadiness and committed just seven unforced errors, an incredible performance.

Nadal supporters had an early chance to rejoice when the world number one broke serve in the fourth game of the opening set, reaching break point with one of his special searing forehands down the line, which was followed by the first of what proved to be 10 Sweeting double faults. Giving virtually nothing away on his own serve, Nadal mopped up the opening set in 36 minutes with the second of his match total of nine aces.

Beneath his back-to-front cap, Sweeting's head dropped a little at the start of the second set, a fatal thing to do against Nadal, and in no time he found himself trailing 4-0. To his credit, the American then hit back bravely but not in time to prevent Nadal capturing the second set in spectacular fashion with three successive aces.

In the opening game of the third set, Sweeting clung onto his serve despite three double-faults and though Nadal broke in the third game the American hit back to capture the Spanish serve for the first - and only - time in the match. Nadal's response was typical. From a 2-3 deficit he swept four of the next five games, extending his Wimbledon winning streak to 16 matches.

star
06-22-2011, 08:38 PM
cakewalk this

:eek: Surely it cannot be with Del Potro waiting for him.

Sunset of Age
06-22-2011, 08:40 PM
If he keeps playing the way he did today, nobody's beating Rafa. Not Federer, not Djokovic, nobody.

Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

:eek: Surely it cannot be with Del Potro waiting for him.

DelPotro, just like Raonic, doesn't have the movement on grass to cause any difficulties for Rafa. I'll be surprised if DelPotro manages to take more than one set.

samanosuke
06-22-2011, 08:42 PM
:eek: Surely it cannot be with Del Potro waiting for him.

pathetic as can be

:worship::worship::worship::worship::worship::wors hip::worship::worship::worship::worship::worship:: worship::worship:

KarlyM
06-22-2011, 08:51 PM
Hey, Sweeting won more than 4 games - success. :lol: :)

jcempire
06-22-2011, 10:30 PM
Sweeting put up a huge fight in the third. It's too bad he doesn't have the weaponry because he showed he's got heart.

Rafa was his typical stingy self not giving anything away for free and always capitalizing when his opponents tire or falter.

Muller will be a test.

Agree, but not at all. Muller? not a real test

TheRafaelNadal
06-22-2011, 10:39 PM
garbage......raonic with such crap movement would have been wrongfooted and floored in the first game itself and packed back to canada.......

i am actually a little put off that nadal doesn't get the expected returning practice before the semis as raonic is out......nothing more than that.....

HE won't get returning practise until the final since Mugray can't hit first serves to save his life. He'll need it against Federer though Federer's serving can be ridiculous at times.

NadalPhan
06-22-2011, 11:13 PM
Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

Noticed I said "if" he keeps playing the way he did today. Federer would be the only one that could maybe beat him. Djokovic isn't good enough on grass to beat him when Nadal's playing at his best.

FormerRafaFan
06-22-2011, 11:31 PM
You are so negative. You can't see what Rafa is really playing.

HUH?!?! did you even read what I wrote? I said I saw some very nice shot making and fighting spirit from Rafa today, which I also said in my previous post. He was also good at returning and hitting winners, his stats were very good. I can still complain about his serve, because it definitely needs some work. Most people say that Rafa's serve is actually his biggest weakness right now, and I agree. I'm not a hater just because I find ONE thing Rafa should improve. I like Rafa, and I'm his fan. I also said many nice things about him, didn't I? I don't think I was too negative at all. Most of what I wrote was actually positive.

Mountaindewslave
06-22-2011, 11:42 PM
Nadal looking like he's going to eat up this title

n8
06-23-2011, 12:06 AM
I was exactly right.

Should be how many games. I say Nadal loses 9.

octatennis
06-23-2011, 12:45 AM
rafa making his draw from hell look easy.

Topspindoctor
06-23-2011, 01:19 AM
Expected. Sweeting is a mug. I don't expect Nadal to lose a set until the final. He'll lose 2 sets max in the whole tournament.

SerialKillerToBe
06-23-2011, 01:28 AM
Expected. Sweeting is a mug. I don't expect Nadal to lose a set until the final. He'll lose 2 sets max in the whole tournament.

But that's impossible. It takes 3 sets to lose a match. :cool:

Manequin75
06-23-2011, 02:14 AM
dont sweat over if rafa played good or bad. Rafa in second week always is better than Rafa in the first week at W. He OFTEN looks vulnerable in the first week. And first week is coming to an end - one more match to go on friday which Rafa should win. ANd then Monday - against del potro/Simon should not be too problematic. ANd by next wednesday QF the grass would have worn out siginifcantly and the baseline would have become all brown and clayish :)

ANd rafa got some experience playing indoors at wimbledon - dont know when it might come handy.

Sure the third set looked shaky but that is because Sweeting started going for broke for everything. He started bashing freely as he had nothing to lose down two sets to love and a break. Sweeting was really thumping the ball there on several occasions and Rafa bore the onslaught and survived. I say good enough.

I mean if you have been following his game closely you gotta be satisfied with that backhand and first serve. ANd his returning today was not too shabby. Rafa will play EVEN better next week. Rest assured ;)

anticaria
06-23-2011, 02:24 AM
If he keeps playing the way he did today, nobody's beating Rafa. Not Federer, not Djokovic, nobody.


we actually need rafa to play a lot better in week 2 than he did today for the competition only gets tougher.. that is if we expect him to hold that trophy on championship sunday..

atm he's merely playing as well as he needs to, which is exactly the right strategy as long as he 'peaks' at the right time, but naturally he'll have to up the ante against the big boys in the latter rounds.. no question about that..

Snowwy
06-23-2011, 02:25 AM
Third set wasn't that good today.

BULLZ1LLA
06-23-2011, 04:00 AM
I just don't understand the reason of wanting Nadal to always feel the pressure even when he knows he is probably going to win. This attitude was good when he was 19 and was trying to make certain impossible shots and scores. But he really needs to be calmer because what he wants now is to win more Grand Slams and stay healthy.
Rafa has all what any tennis player needs to win Grand Slams and even more, he did it before and he is going to do it again. But you have to realize that he doesn't need to be completely focused from start to finish like a machine even when he doesn't need that pressure.
Your attitude of recognizing the only bad games in his matches is not good. It is not allowing you to recognize his progression as a tennis player. He is playing so much better than 5 years ago, he has more variety in his shots.
You need to stop being worried and enjoy the game.

(:yeah:True for sure, and it's not like a fan can alter Rafa's performance during/after the match by worrying about errors, especially in a match where his opponent never asked Rafa to play at the highest level. Although in this match Rafa had 38 winners and 7 unforced errors! Good reps to you, if MTF let me [but it says the 'must spread around to others' message, MTF should change that rule because I have good repped different people, so that message seems wrong])

Clay Death
06-23-2011, 04:04 AM
I was exactly right.


spot on as usual.

BULLZ1LLA
06-23-2011, 04:05 AM
we actually need rafa to play a lot better in week 2 than he did today for the competition only gets tougher.. that is if we expect him to hold that trophy on championship sunday..

atm he's merely playing as well as he needs to, which is exactly the right strategy as long as he 'peaks' at the right time, but naturally he'll have to up the ante against the big boys in the latter rounds.. no question about that..

(Yeah, unfortunately Sweeting never put Rafa in a position for Rafa to play his best, its just not possible to unlock your absolute best if you aren't being pushed. Even in the 3rd set when Sweeting got things level we still saw Sweeting miss routine shots which gave Rafa the opening. That's the great thing about Murray, even if Murray can't take a set form Rafa at Wimbledon he at least gives Rafa a challenge to raise Rafa's level to the highest level)

Clay Death
06-23-2011, 04:07 AM
Third set wasn't that good today.



affirmative. his level dropped off. he lost some concentration.

still i am not happy with his return off the backhand wing.

backhand needs a lot more work.

jcempire
06-23-2011, 06:58 AM
Depends who rafa palys, won't lose sets againxt Murray or Djokerboy but if he plays Federer he might lose 1 or even 2.

you kidding me?
D-joker? That's the guy who got have 44-1 this year so far.

careergrandslam
06-23-2011, 09:53 AM
still not impressed with nadal.
its good enough for these guys but against mugray, faker and olderer, nadal will lose.

Saberq
06-23-2011, 09:56 AM
still not impressed with nadal.
its good enough for these guys but against mugray, faker and olderer, nadal will lose.

therapy man you are a pathetic suck up .....if nadal wins you will brag and gloat....god you are a loser

Saberq
06-23-2011, 09:59 AM
Noticed I said "if" he keeps playing the way he did today. Federer would be the only one that could maybe beat him. Djokovic isn't good enough on grass to beat him when Nadal's playing at his best.

Djokovic kicked you idols ass on grass in 2007 SF first set after dying on the court after playing 4 straight days for 5 sets with no rest....In 2008 Q you know the year Nadal beat Fed at W score was 76 75 for Nadal I believe because Djokovic choked...So all this bull that Djokovic sucks on grass is bullshit...Murray never made W final then I guess he sucks too...

anticaria
06-23-2011, 03:09 PM
(Yeah, unfortunately Sweeting never put Rafa in a position for Rafa to play his best, its just not possible to unlock your absolute best if you aren't being pushed. Even in the 3rd set when Sweeting got things level we still saw Sweeting miss routine shots which gave Rafa the opening. That's the great thing about Murray, even if Murray can't take a set form Rafa at Wimbledon he at least gives Rafa a challenge to raise Rafa's level to the highest level)

i hear you.. fortunately, this is just the 2nd round and of course we don't want him to peak too early.. meaning there's plenty of time for rafa to get primed, hone his rhythm and finetune those areas of his game that are not quite at championship level just yet.. he's right on target though.. peaking at the ideal time is a gradual progression and the important thing, and what's actually impressed me the most so far, is the way rafa's allowing any 'defending champion' pressure to roll right off his back.. he seems calm and relaxed and enjoying himself.. overall, i'm liking the bulk of what i'm seeing so far.. :)

NadalPhan
06-23-2011, 10:02 PM
Djokovic kicked you idols ass on grass in 2007 SF first set after dying on the court after playing 4 straight days for 5 sets with no rest....In 2008 Q you know the year Nadal beat Fed at W score was 76 75 for Nadal I believe because Djokovic choked...So all this bull that Djokovic sucks on grass is bullshit...Murray never made W final then I guess he sucks too...


Show me a post where I said Djokovic sucks on grass? What I did say is Djokovic is not good enough on grass to beat Nadal when he is playing at his absolute best; and I'm pretty sure you know this too.