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How many posibilities are to end the Fedal-Wimbledon streak?

viruzzz
06-18-2011, 05:20 AM
With Nole-Murray improving his grass skills (Also Nole in a great shape).
Berdych with a good grass level, Tsonga with a QF last year and a close final in Queens last year.
Roddick is still alive... (I think... Look at Goran!)
Gasquet with a good grass level but with 2 years without playing Wimb.
The strong servers could be a difficult deal (Raonic, Dr. Ivo, Isner) even for Fedal.

Your turn to share your opinion.

ossie
06-18-2011, 07:51 AM
fedal is just too strong on grass for this field, the players you listed can be tricky but i dont see them beating fedal this time around. only players who can push them are murray and djoker and id be surprised if even they took more than one set. yea i know its boring but its the reality

BULLZ1LLA
06-18-2011, 08:44 AM
(Raonic isn't as good as Rafa on grass, and just way too inexperienced, not even sure he'll get to play Rafa. Berdych will be lucky to take a set off Rafa in the QF, no chance there. Roddick is the only guy who can trouble Rafa. But Murray will likely take Roddick out, and Rafa loves playing Murray on grass. My favorite match is Rafa vs Del Potro, because been waiting a long time for Rafa to destroy Del Potro in a slam, after that 2009 US Open)

LawrenceOfTennis
06-18-2011, 08:57 AM
(Raonic isn't as good as Rafa on grass, and just way too inexperienced, not even sure he'll get to play Rafa. Berdych will be lucky to take a set off Rafa in the QF, no chance there. Roddick is the only guy who can trouble Rafa. But Murray will likely take Roddick out, and Rafa loves playing Murray on grass. My favorite match is Rafa vs Del Potro, because been waiting a long time for Rafa to destroy Del Potro in a slam, after that 2009 US Open)

What a sad loser you are. Waiting for to beat DelPo? That's your joy? :facepalm:

BULLZ1LLA
06-18-2011, 09:12 AM
(Raonic isn't as good as Rafa on grass, and just way too inexperienced, not even sure he'll get to play Rafa. Berdych will be lucky to take a set off Rafa in the QF, no chance there. Roddick is the only guy who can trouble Rafa. But Murray will likely take Roddick out, and Rafa loves playing Murray on grass. My favorite match is Rafa vs Del Potro, because been waiting a long time for Rafa to destroy Del Potro in a slam, after that 2009 US Open)

What a sad loser you are. Waiting for to beat DelPo? That's your joy? :facepalm:

(Del Potro is the most dangerous player Rafa has ever played in his entire career. It is crucial that Rafa records a slam win over him. They are destined to meet at slam finals in future)

GSMnadal
06-18-2011, 10:11 AM
Raonic
Murray
Djokovic

are what stand in the way of a Fedal final, looks like a coin flip to me.

BULLZ1LLA
06-18-2011, 10:42 AM
(The question is, will Murray take a set from Rafa? If their SF goes the way of their previous 2 meetings at Wimbledon, then Rafa will be a lot fresher than the winner of Federer-Djokovic epic. Roddick is the only player who could pose a threat for Rafa, and that's if Roddick can get past Murray)

EliSter
06-18-2011, 11:16 AM
(Del Potro is the most dangerous player Rafa has ever played in his entire career. It is crucial that Rafa records a slam win over him. They are destined to meet at slam finals in future)

:haha:

GOAT = Fed
06-18-2011, 11:29 AM
Wow can't believe the hype Raonic is getting. The guy has never played a grass tournament in his life yet he's thought of getting in the way of Fedal? Lolz

Legend
06-18-2011, 11:44 AM
You are so right....I don't get this hype about him either.

GSMnadal
06-18-2011, 11:49 AM
It's just a known fact that Rafa is terrible against big servers, Karlovic took him to 3 in IW/Miami?, Isner took him to 5 at RG of all places. Now he'll play one on grass, yes, of course Raonic is a major threat to Rafa. It'll come down to a couple tiebreaks.

NJ88
06-18-2011, 12:11 PM
I think the top four are very close this year.

I do think that it will end up being a Nadal/Murray, Djokovic/Federer semi final day again which could be fantastic. But in both of the matches, either player could go through. Federer is great on grass but then again Djokovic has had an incredible year so far. Both are so close that it could go either way. Nadal is great on grass but after Murrays clay court season and his queens performance/win he's goig to be feeling good, and playing that well he could beat Nadal.

I think it's about 50/50, with maybe a SLIGHT edge going to antoher Fedal final. But it could go either way.

MIMIC
06-18-2011, 12:16 PM
(Del Potro is the most dangerous player Rafa has ever played in his entire career. It is crucial that Rafa records a slam win over him. They are destined to meet at slam finals in future)

First of all, :spit:

Secondly, Nadal has already beaten del Potro in a slam. 2007 French Open.

GOAT = Fed
06-18-2011, 12:41 PM
It's just a known fact that Rafa is terrible against big servers, Karlovic took him to 3 in IW/Miami?, Isner took him to 5 at RG of all places. Now he'll play one on grass, yes, of course Raonic is a major threat to Rafa. It'll come down to a couple tiebreaks.

Yeah Rafa isn't good against big servers but if the only thing Raonic has is his big serve (Which we don't even know how it will fare on grass) then he'll be taken to 3 tie breaks at worst and then Raonic will lose the tie breaks. Obviously if Raonics hardcourt game translates well to grass then it could be a tight match but I doubt it.

ossie
06-18-2011, 01:02 PM
:haha:its true

Sham Kay
06-18-2011, 01:50 PM
Some player outside the top 5 is going to make himself a hero.

Saberq
06-18-2011, 03:07 PM
its true

Relax ossie Del Potro is not the 1/3 of a player that Roger Federer is so Roger is the most dangerous player Rafa has faced in a slam even though he owned him....If you want to put Del Potro in that basket that put Tsonga he kicked his ass at AO 2008

viruzzz
06-18-2011, 06:34 PM
Some player outside the top 5 is going to make himself a hero.

Please, tell me who, because this is kinda big news for me.

hipolymer
06-18-2011, 06:52 PM
I am sick of all this "BIG 4" semifinal talk as if they are all guaranteed a spot in the semis. Can't wait for this first week and a half to be over so at least two of the big four get destroyed in the early rounds.

MaxPower
06-18-2011, 07:07 PM
I am sick of all this "BIG 4" semifinal talk as if they are all guaranteed a spot in the semis. Can't wait for this first week and a half to be over so at least two of the big four get destroyed in the early rounds.

QFT. And it's going to be awesome

ossie
06-18-2011, 07:18 PM
Relax ossie Del Potro is not the 1/3 of a player that Roger Federer is so Roger is the most dangerous player Rafa has faced in a slam even though he owned him....If you want to put Del Potro in that basket that put Tsonga he kicked his ass at AO 2008so much fail in this post :rolleyes:
first of all rogie never beat rafa as convincingly as delpo at usopen did. rafa owns fed in slams and dont get me started on clownga :haha:

Sapeod
06-18-2011, 07:23 PM
so much fail in this post :rolleyes:
first of all rogie never beat rafa as convincingly as delpo at usopen did. rafa owns fed in slams and dont get me started on clownga :haha:
Tsonga is a much better player than Del Potro, it's just that Del Potro is more powerful and more consistent, which means he can achieve more. If Tsonga was as mentally strong and consistent as Del Potro is, then he would have a slam and be in the top 5 consistently.

Pirata.
06-18-2011, 07:27 PM
Berdych with a good grass level

:haha:


(Del Potro is the most dangerous player Rafa has ever played in his entire career.

:superlol:

Speed of Light
06-18-2011, 07:29 PM
Wow can't believe the hype Raonic is getting. The guy has never played a grass tournament in his life yet he's thought of getting in the way of Fedal? Lolz

Raonic has faced Rafa once before in the Japan open last year. I saw that match and was very impressed by Raonic.
This guy was supposed to be a walkover for Nadal. A junior challenger level player against a world number one. No contest at all. But he really took it to Rafa and served out of his skin. Especially the first few games were really on a high level as Rafa could do just about nothing but see the aces whiz past him. In the end of course Rafa won the match 6-4 6-4. Both the sets followed the same script as towards the end of each of them Rafa just pushed the peddle down and won the crucial points. But nonetheless I was very very impressed with Milos, and really considered him to be one to look out for in the future. Now the grass court in Wimbledon, like the fast Tokyo court will also give the young canadian a good advantage as it will help his serve in the first week. As many have said, its still to be seen whether he makes the third round though. But considering that he makes it, he won't be a pushover. Also he already has a taste of what it is like to defeat Nadal. Having won the only time they ever faced in doubles. Milos and his partner Pospisil stunned the world numbers 1 and 2 Rafael Nadal and Novak Djokovic's "dream team" in an amazing fashion in a highly entertaining though exhibition-like tennis match last year in Toronto. So it's not all uncharted territory for the young man. And what I believe what will favor him the most is that, if these first two matches against Rafa is anything to go by, he will play with no pressure at all. And sometimes players who play with nothing to lose and have big weapons (serve in this case) might just end up going on a tear and be unstoppable on their day. And what's more if Rafa continues to play lethargically like his performance in Queen's or indeed the early rounds of RG, this 3rd round match up might end up being one tough deal i'm sure he wouldn't have bargained for.

Eden
06-18-2011, 07:39 PM
Raonic has faced Rafa once before in the Japan open last year. I saw that match and was very impressed by Raonic.
This guy was supposed to be a walkover for Nadal. A junior challenger level player against a world number one. No contest at all. But he really took it to Rafa and served out of his skin. Especially the first few games were really on a high level as Rafa could do just about nothing but see the aces whiz past him. In the end of course Rafa won the match 6-4 6-4. Both the sets followed the same script as towards the end of each of them Rafa just pushed the peddle down and won the crucial points. But nonetheless I was very very impressed with Milos, and really considered him to be one to look out for in the future. Now the grass court in Wimbledon, like the fast Tokyo court will also give the young canadian a good advantage as it will help his serve in the first week. As many have said, its still to be seen whether he makes the third round though. But considering that he makes it, he won't be a pushover. Also he already has a taste of what it is like to defeat Nadal. Having won the only time they ever faced in doubles. Milos and his partner Pospisil stunned the world numbers 1 and 2 Rafael Nadal and Novak Djokovic's "dream team" in an amazing fashion in a highly entertaining though exhibition-like tennis match last year in Toronto. So it's not all uncharted territory for the young man. And what I believe what will favor him the most is that, if these first two matches against Rafa is anything to go by, he will play with no pressure at all. And sometimes players who play with nothing to lose and have big weapons (serve in this case) might just end up going on a tear and be unstoppable on their day. And what's more if Rafa continues to play lethargically like his performance in Queen's or indeed the early rounds of RG, this 3rd round match up might end up being one tough deal i'm sure he wouldn't have bargained for.

There's still a difference to play against Rafa in a Grand Slam tournament. He won't have the pressure to beat him but it's something else to play the #1 in a best of 5 match on the holy grass of Wimbledon ;)

Speed of Light
06-18-2011, 07:39 PM
(Del Potro is the most dangerous player Rafa has ever played in his entire career. It is crucial that Rafa records a slam win over him. They are destined to meet at slam finals in future)

The guy won a slam very young.. in the Fedal era... so omg he most be the next best thing since sliced bread.... and might ultimately even become the Goat.
Srsly man, what are you smoking?
Has he given any indication since he can do all that?
Yes,I sympathise his injuries, but even then I don't think he'll return to the top of his game.
And what's more even if he does return.. it's not everyday that he'll be involved in a slam where in the quarters he will face a man who will pwn him for a set and a half before forgetting how to play tennis completely for till the end of the match, in the semis he will face someone with a 5 mm tear in his abdominal muscle, and in the finals he will face somebody ready to put in one of the biggest chokes of his life......

Sunset of Age
06-18-2011, 11:57 PM
(Del Potro is the most dangerous player Rafa has ever played in his entire career. It is crucial that Rafa records a slam win over him. They are destined to meet at slam finals in future)

Sure, on GRASS, where DelPotro, even in his 100% healthy days, never managed to pass beyond the 3rd round.

({[Goodheavens, what are you smoking? Have you ever watched a tennis match before 2008 or so? :o]})

Sunset of Age
06-19-2011, 12:00 AM
There's still a difference to play against Rafa in a Grand Slam tournament. He won't have the pressure to beat him but it's something else to play the #1 in a best of 5 match on the holy grass of Wimbledon ;)

We've both watched Raonic on grass very recently, and tell me, where you very impressed with him? Sure as hell I wasn't. Serve-only, as soon as his serve fails, he's toast. Moves like a camel on the surface.
He'll not show to be any problem against Rafa, if even he gets that far. In the 'best' case, he might be able to snatch a set, but that's about it.

Of course - feel free to bump this post, should he indeed be able to make a dent! :D

makesmewonder
06-19-2011, 12:06 AM
Argh I put the wrong choice ::angry::

makesmewonder
06-19-2011, 12:07 AM
Anyway the final will be Fedal. Amen.:worship:

Sunset of Age
06-19-2011, 12:11 AM
Anyway the final will be Fedal. Amen.:worship:

I surely hope so.
BTW - your avvy is :hearts: ;)

Action Jackson
07-03-2011, 05:31 PM
Ended finally.