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Is Roger risking burnout... or even worse, injury?

RonE
10-05-2004, 12:48 AM
He is due to play in three tournaments in as many weeks (Madrid, Basel, Paris). Thats three (count em :eek: ) straight weeks of play from Oct 18th to Nov 7th with TMC starting on Nov 15th!!!

Basel I can understand- it is his hometown event and he wants to win it badly. TMC I can understand too, but I think he should pull out of the 2 TMS events- this is just too much!

Having clinched the #1 ranking already for 2004, he really has no pressure to accumulate/defend more points. Wouldn't it make more sense to play less now and start 2005 fresher? What are your thoughts on this?

Fedex
10-05-2004, 01:12 AM
There has already been a thread on this, and no, he is not. He has plenty of time to rest up for Madrid, which should give him enough energy to play in all of the events. Plus given the fact that Roger doesn't play too well in back-to-back Masters, he will probably go far in one, but lose early in the other, so he will have time to rest, regardless. I think he will be fine.

mitalidas
10-05-2004, 01:47 AM
I believe he will win Madrid and withdraw from everything else until Houston

Fedex
10-05-2004, 02:11 AM
No. There's not a chance he'll withdraw from Basel. He'll want to please the swiss tennis fans as well as win his hometown tournement.

mitalidas
10-05-2004, 02:41 AM
oh sorry, forgot Basel came after Madrid. I agree --he will play basel and one of the other two masters (Madrid I guess). He will /should really withdraw and relax before Houston, and before getting ready to defend the 3 slams in 05!

Billabong
10-05-2004, 02:59 AM
yep;)! If he wins Madrid, he'll play Basel for sure, just like Wimbledon-Gstaad:)! I'm not sure about Paris though;)!

RogiFan88
10-05-2004, 03:44 AM
No, Rogi won't w/d fr any of these tourneys... that's why he's not playing Vienna... so he only plays 3 wks instead of 4 in a row... altho I have to say I didn't want him to go all the way to Bangkok... but now that he's won it, doesn't matter.

Rogi can do what he likes and even if he doesn't defend his pts [SF Madrid, R2 Basel and QF Paris] it doesn't matter. But of the 3 he w dearly love to win his hometown tourney!

Yes, he s definitely take care of himself, esp before the TMC... v important!

Dirk
10-05-2004, 08:12 AM
I think Rogi will lose early in Paris if he does very well in Madrid and Basel. Rogi will have some days off before Houston. I think during the off season he will take it easy and his trainer will not dare push him too much. Rogi and him know that Rogi's body needs to recover so I think they will only do a little bit of off court training so Rogi can be ready for Oz. I just hope he trains for Madrid and gets his S&V game going on. He is a great indoor player. I doubt he will do doubles in either master. Just basel I think. I understand how you feel Ron but Rogi does look after himself and has pulled out of events before if his body say "no" which is what he did in 01 during the summer season.

jtipson
10-05-2004, 08:51 AM
Every year, he's sensibly shortening his autumn schedule. Two years ago, he played 5 weeks in a row (Moscow, Vienna, Madrid, Basel, Bercy). Last year he dropped Moscow, this year Vienna. I'm sure he'd have a rest in the middle week between the two TMS if it wasn't his home tournament. Perhaps if he wins it, he won't feel so much pressure to play in it in the future - but I still expect he will.

He was quite near to winning Madrid last year - the semi-final against Ferrero was very tight. At least this year he will have more time to prepare for it; he found going from Vienna to Madrid hard in 2003. And if he skips any, it should be Bercy. But I don't think he will.

Dirk
10-05-2004, 09:07 AM
Yep. I think he will if he has done very well in one or both of the events prior to it Jtipson. He will just take it easy and not seek out the prize from the start in Paris.

makro120
10-05-2004, 10:06 AM
Federer must beat Agassi's record of 3 master series in 1 year!

He must win BAsel aswell and he must win Houston, to make Jim go mad!

I can only allow him to loose in 1 of the master series coming!

Dirk
10-05-2004, 10:36 AM
Andre's record is with Pete and Muster too. Rios won 3 in one year as well. Rogi is in great company. I hope he wins Madrid and Basel and Cup. He can lose early in Paris to rest up and prepare better for Cup.

Daniel
10-05-2004, 12:55 PM
I think he will win MAdrid and Basel and pull out of Paris coz there is not point playing if he is tired. I think by now he knows when to stop, he knows he is the best and his schedule must be smart, giving him time to rest and recover between tournaments. I also thank God for protecting Roger from getting injured, he has been blessed so far with a healthy body and i wish it continues for a long time. These days many top players are injured and it is sad.

Vamos Roger :D

Lalitha
10-05-2004, 01:09 PM
I think he is going to play all three and accumulate as many points as he could. The difference between him and #2 is like - even if he did'nt play for the first half of next season, good chance he might still be #1.

I guess he is going to play it all and no worries about injuries - Rogi will be fine. :yeah:

speedracer
10-05-2004, 01:47 PM
You, guys, are greedy and spoiled. :lol: I'd be happy just with Houston win :angel: Honestly, more than anything, I want to see him healthy and fresh in 2005.

Nymeria
10-05-2004, 01:52 PM
Actually I don't mind when he plays and if he wins. Coz I'm really happy with his season already and I can understand if he decides not to play or if he would lose before the final. But I think if he withdrawns from a tourny it'll be Paris. But I won't be surprised if he plays all the tournies. He'll be able to!

babsi
10-05-2004, 03:54 PM
Roger is a very smart guy. :)
I think he knows excatly what´s best for him
and if he does´nt, I am sure Mirka does :) :)

Rogiman
10-05-2004, 04:02 PM
I do hope he retires right now from Bercy, it's totally unnecessary, and must not distract him from his only major goal: winning TMC Houston!
IMO TMC's are, along with year-end #1's, the measure stick of the greats, it looks like Sampras won dozens of them, whereas Agassi won only one (1990), another diminishing factor in Andre's achievements.
Otherwise it's hard to point out where he could cut back his schedule next year, although playing 90 matches every year doesn't make sense either, maybe tounnaments like Gastaad should be skipped, Rotterdam for sure.

Lalitha
10-07-2004, 01:44 PM
Who knows what's going on in his mind? (his opponents included ;) )

WyveN
10-07-2004, 02:17 PM
I wouldnt worry about Rogers schedule. I am certain he didnt expect to be so succesful this year but he will make the necessary adjustments for the next 12 months.

speedracer
10-07-2004, 07:35 PM
I agree with Wyven. Who could predict that he'd clinch number 1 position after USO? He probably expected to see himself in a tight race up until Houston.
I think Roger loves to be number1, to break and set records. He's just smart enough not to talk too much about it in his interviews( why to irritate other players more than they already are?). But I feel he has big goals and he'll try to do everything in his power to achieve them. That means he'll take care of his health and schedule.

Didn't he joke at the beginning of the year, that being number 1 is not a pressure, but a pleasure.

lsy
10-08-2004, 08:57 AM
True he could never had dreamt of winning so much at the beginning of the year.

But he had talked about being tired since Toronto? Hewitt is right, don't think many can understand how tough is it to keep winning and Rogi had mentioned many times it's tough to stay motivated tournament after tournament.

I really really hope he has more time to just sit back, think back of his achievements this year and feel proud of it. This should give him more drive and determination for better years ahead. Kept winning but not having time to enjoy and relieve the success makes winning much less fullfiling. Same as working hard to add zero in your bank account balance but not having time to spend it ;)

lsy
10-08-2004, 10:00 AM
oh I forgot to mention in the presentation ceremony interview after winning Thailand Open, Rogi mentioned about Basel and the world championships (TMC). It's no doubt those two are the remaining ones he really wants to win for this year.

Puschkin
10-08-2004, 10:48 AM
Of course, this is all pure speculation: But I'd say that his greatest ambition is to do well in Basel and I am rather sure that he will have enough motivation for this goal, whatever the outcome of Madrid.

Rogiman
10-08-2004, 11:28 AM
Another important factor is Davis Cup.

As long as the swiss don't grow another world class talent (top 20 stuff) to share the effort with Roger I hope they don't make it to the final.
Those three days he plays in a row every time are just too demandind, and if he plays a final tie after TMC he'll almost surely be exausted the following year, a la Ferrero.

I'm very much content with grand slam titles, but then again - I'm not swiss.

Adam Thirnis
10-08-2004, 07:23 PM
IMO TMC's are, along with year-end #1's, the measure stick of the greats


Maybe if the matches were all 5 set - but the 3 set format is not a true test.

makro120
10-09-2004, 12:24 AM
Well, I just hope he wins a master series torunament, beats Agassi's record. Goes on to Houston and annoys Jim to h*ll by beating Andy 6-0 6-0 6-0. I would like to see Jim's speech...