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Will Novak be remembered for blowing the big one?

2003
06-06-2011, 10:43 AM
People are so quick to criticize and be mad at Roger for the way he played against Nadal in 2011 RG final.

What about Novak?

Havent heard as much critique of Novak.

He won everything all year, yet failed to win RG. Im sure he would trade Rome etc for RG.

He must be so mad with himself?

I know theres a long way to go the rest of the season, but the jury is still out on Novak on Grass.

Discuss.

GSMnadal
06-06-2011, 10:46 AM
A big fat YES, slams are what you're remembered for, and he didn't win it. It was same old, same old Fedal that upped their level at the right time, like the true legends of the game. Have fun with your masters trophies Novak.

BodyServe
06-06-2011, 10:57 AM
A big fat YES, slams are what you're remembered for, and he didn't win it. It was same old, same old Fedal that upped their level at the right time, like the true legends of the game. Have fun with your masters trophies Novak.

You make it sounds like he didnt win a slam...which it isnt the case.

One thing is sure is that he would have been a tougher test for nadal in final, so yes he blew his chances.

Zagor
06-06-2011, 11:05 AM
IMO he missed his best chance at the FO title so far.I think he would have had en excellent shot in the final(he really was gaining a mental edge over Nadal lately),instead we were treated to yet another dull FO Fedal "classic".However he's still relatively young so there should be more chances for him in the future but yes should he never win FO then yes this will go down as a big lost opportunity for him.

ZaZoo)
06-06-2011, 11:07 AM
That's what you get for not using set points in the first set but oh well, he said after AO that main goal is to win Wimbledon.

GSMnadal
06-06-2011, 11:12 AM
You make it sounds like he didnt win a slam...which it isnt the case.

One thing is sure is that he would have been a tougher test for nadal in final, so yes he blew his chances.

Post-AO is where he really started dominating, beating Rafa 4 times. And RG was the first slam, where he was favourite for the first time in his life, and he crumbled. Yes, he blew his shot at the FO title, Nadal was beatable for Djokovic this year.

BodyServe
06-06-2011, 11:16 AM
Post-AO is where he really started dominating, beating Rafa 4 times. And RG was the first slam, where he was favourite for the first time in his life, and he crumbled. Yes, he blew his shot at the FO title, Nadal was beatable for Djokovic this year.

He lost one set at the AO, not something i would call "not dominating"

But yeah, huge chance blown at RG.

MaxPower
06-06-2011, 11:25 AM
nah. why remember someone over something they NOT did? does that even make sense? When he becomes nr1 he will be remembered for that. Like "How come Djokovic became nr1 when he only won AO? OMG IT WAS THAT MAGICAL STREAK!"

something like that. After all he got one of the best streaks ever and he got more ranking points and more prize money by winning all those master 1000s anyway. He didn't flop in RG or something, he was in the final 4. Slams might be what fanboys argue about on internet forums but I dont think Novak is crying himself to sleep about blowing the big one. He knows he will get more slam chances

Sophocles
06-06-2011, 11:27 AM
Well, he did run into a difficult match-up in great form. Had Murray been in his half he'd have won the title.

Getta
06-06-2011, 11:36 AM
Had Murray been in his half he'd have won the title.

Wimbledon organisers have a very important meeting, and then Novak will win Wimbledon this year.

Saberq
06-06-2011, 12:24 PM
I dont want Andy in Novak's half at Wimbledon screw that he can play on grass better than Nadal....

Mountaindewslave
06-06-2011, 01:53 PM
I dont want Andy in Novak's half at Wimbledon screw that he can play on grass better than Nadal....

lol statement of the century, the only thing Murray is better at Nadal on grass is succumbing to pressure

MacTheKnife
06-06-2011, 01:56 PM
Way to early to say that. He's still the best player in the world at the moment and he'll have many more "big ones" to come.

Tennislover23
06-06-2011, 02:00 PM
He would be if he'd "lost" the match against Fed. BUT he didn't. Federer WON that match. Novak didn't blow anything.

janko05
06-06-2011, 02:02 PM
Well, he did run into a difficult match-up in great form. Had Murray been in his half he'd have won the title.

Great form yes but he needed some real tests before Federer. He didn't have closure with Hanescu, JMDP match abandoned just when things became interesting and Fognini didn't help either. He was rusty and Federer took advantage, not sure Nadal wouldn't.

luie
06-06-2011, 02:11 PM
Yes,,Novak F*** uo big time,,he could have had a RG title in his back pocket ,,full of confidence to try & win on his weakest surface...He allowed the old man to school him...Novak has let down tennis fans all around the world,,with nadull level of play in the 1st 3 sets ,,Novak would have made it more competitive.
NOVAK DJOKOVIC ROBBED TENNIS FAN,,F*** tool.

Greatness
06-06-2011, 02:24 PM
Depends on what he does at Wimbledon and US open.

luie
06-06-2011, 02:36 PM
Depends on what he does at Wimbledon and US open.
Depends if he can beat a 30 year old warhorse.:sad:

Matrix
06-06-2011, 04:36 PM
He will be remembered as one of the best tennis players in history.
For the MTF trolling tools future doesn't look that bright, but we're having a free entertainment thanks to these clowns. Keep it on:wavey:

Clay Death
06-06-2011, 04:41 PM
nole is the new world #1. his time is just starting.

he should be able to collect 2 slams a year with his movement of death and his game.

he plays the game efficiently and its basically devoid of any glaring holes.

ballbasher101
06-06-2011, 04:46 PM
Novak did not blow it instead Federer blew it by winning that match. Federer has now done irreparable damage to his legacy. The French crowd wanted Federer to win. What's funny is that the French crowd don't like Nadal and yet they cheered on the guy had a 0% chance of beating Nadal. That is stupid if you ask me.

hipolymer
06-06-2011, 04:56 PM
Novak did not blow it instead Federer blew it by winning that match. Federer has now done irreparable damage to his legacy. The French crowd wanted Federer to win. What's funny is that the French crowd don't like Nadal and yet they cheered on the guy had a 0% chance of beating Nadal. That is stupid if you ask me.

They will cheer for Federer again in 2012 and Rafa will win again. Some things never change.

ballbasher101
06-06-2011, 05:07 PM
They will cheer for Federer again in 2012 and Rafa will win again. Some things never change.


Hopefully Nadal and Federer will be in the same half at the next few majors. We don't want any of that Fedal nonsense anymore.

A_Skywalker
06-06-2011, 05:07 PM
He will be remembered as one of the best tennis players in history.
For the MTF trolling tools future doesn't look that bright, but we're having a free entertainment thanks to these clowns. Keep it on:wavey:

Why, 2 AO doesnt make you one of the best players in the history, he needs other GS outside AO.

Filo V.
06-06-2011, 05:08 PM
He won't be by those who actually know tennis.

janko05
06-06-2011, 05:25 PM
He won't be by those who actually know tennis.

He won't be remembered??? Such a stupid thing to say :o

Nathaliia
06-06-2011, 05:47 PM
whose big one did he blow??? :eek: :bolt:

And seriously, Fed played an outstanding match, there wasn't much blowing. If Nole keeps this level of tennis overall, he will have several chances in majors yet.

.-Federers_Mate-.
06-06-2011, 06:02 PM
After Novak takes London by storm and takes his first wimbledon crown with the crowd basking in all his glory i doubt anyone will remember the 2011 edition of the French Open.

star
06-06-2011, 06:20 PM
I'm sorry. When I see "blowing the big one" I just crack up.

:haha: :haha:


:( probably, I'm not the first to mention this, but I didn't read the thread. :(

.-Federers_Mate-.
06-06-2011, 06:32 PM
He won't be by those who actually know tennis.

He's had the best start to a season in the history of the game. He's won everything and he's beaten everyone. more than once. Total domination and he's done it in style.

Finish your reply before I fall asleep please.:zzz:

xdrewitdajx
06-06-2011, 06:40 PM
He won't be remembered??? Such a stupid thing to say :o

I think he meant he won't be remembered for blowing the big one, by people who know tennis...not that he won't be remembered. But I could be wrong

careergrandslam
06-06-2011, 06:46 PM
djokovic and murray are MM tournament kings.

Greatness
06-06-2011, 06:47 PM
Depends if he can beat a 30 year old warhorse.:sad:

He's done it 3 times in a row this year (Australian Open, Dubai, Indian Wells) and he will do it again. :)

Federer had one of the best service games of his career and played incredible
defense: despite this Novak was serving for the 4th set and needed to mess up
a lot for Federer to win.

Novak is legit, no doubts there, he will win many more slams for sure.

peribsen
06-06-2011, 07:23 PM
Well, he did run into a difficult match-up in great form. Had Murray been in his half he'd have won the semis.

Corrected. Unless you are some sort of Cassandra and simply 'know' what would have happened.

I may be wrong here, but I really think the Nole-Rafa issue is being overhyped big time in this board.

luie
06-06-2011, 07:24 PM
He's done it 3 times in a row this year (Australian Open, Dubai, Indian Wells) and he will do it again. :)

Federer had one of the best service games of his career and played incredible
defense: despite this Novak was serving for the 4th set and needed to mess up
a lot for Federer to win.

Novak is legit, no doubts there, he will win many more slams for sure.
The thread was talking about RG,,he would have crushed this nadull in the finals & won a slam outside AO but he threw it away...:sad:

Saberq
06-06-2011, 07:37 PM
careergrandslam@ is the worst fanboy ever....At least GSM Nadal or Clay Death or Topspindoctor support Nadal all the way as they should buy you mate are a joke....Murray and Djokovic and Federer are more talented that Nadal even though he is a great player but plain player...If Federer never played the best match on clay in his life your idol would never win this RG and you know it...You are a JOKE.....

Topspindoctor
06-07-2011, 01:15 AM
Yes,,Novak F*** uo big time,,he could have had a RG title in his back pocket ,,full of confidence to try & win on his weakest surface...He allowed the old man to school him...Novak has let down tennis fans all around the world,,with nadull level of play in the 1st 3 sets ,,Novak would have made it more competitive.
NOVAK DJOKOVIC ROBBED TENNIS FAN,,F*** tool.

:haha:

Matt01
06-07-2011, 01:20 AM
A big fat YES, slams are what you're remembered for, and he didn't win it. It was same old, same old Fedal that upped their level at the right time, like the true legends of the game. Have fun with your masters trophies Novak.


Funny, I could have sworn that he won a major earlier this year. But maybe that's only a product of my imagination. :scratch: :shrug:

Pipsy
06-07-2011, 01:27 AM
If Novak Djokovic retired tomorrow, he'd be remembered for 2 Australian Opens, 9 Masters 1000 titles, being a WTF champion and for having the longest winning streak of the past 25 years, NOT losing in the semis of the French

makesmewonder
06-07-2011, 01:32 AM
I think we'll have to wait and see how high he will finish this year. He just had a fantastic track record and I was sure he would have fail in some time but he won the AO so don't think his loss to Roger means nothing.

read label
06-07-2011, 01:34 AM
The thread was talking about RG,,he would have crushed this nadull in the finals & won a slam outside AO but he threw it away...:sad:

Is everybody forgetting the 5 days Nole did not play because
of the withdraw.Forsure this effect his game. Everybody tell
us it would and it did.
Playing McEnroe with training, did not help him,he was out of rhythm:confused:

Filo V.
06-07-2011, 01:39 AM
He won't be remembered for blowing anything at RG.

Il Primo Uomo
06-07-2011, 01:51 AM
Who??

BK123
06-07-2011, 02:35 AM
Depends on what happens for the rest of the year.

It would have been a better match than Federer sucking Rafa's dick like usual.

FerrerAndNadal
06-07-2011, 02:43 AM
Yes, this clay season looking back in five years will not be remembered for anything more than Nadal winning his 6th Roland Garros. He won Madrid and Rome and had great wins in them but they won't be remembered in the grand scheme of things.

abraxas21
06-07-2011, 02:48 AM
dunno

if he fails to win RG in the remainder of his career, maybe.

fast_clay
06-07-2011, 03:17 AM
Yes,,Novak F*** uo big time,,he could have had a RG title in his back pocket ,,full of confidence to try & win on his weakest surface...He allowed the old man to school him...Novak has let down tennis fans all around the world,,with nadull level of play in the 1st 3 sets ,,Novak would have made it more competitive.
NOVAK DJOKOVIC ROBBED TENNIS FAN,,F*** tool.

yes... i am disappointed novak froze before the true moment of judgement as well... he did rob tennis by being jedi mind tricked once again by someone he should no longer feel he must out attack every point...

but... on an entirely different level, french open organisers are largely to blame for that... issuing babolat with ball specs that turned out not to be spin friendly helped their man roger generate genuine pace on serve vs djokovic...

yet, these balls do not help some one in a match up where one party has been regularly and brutally sodomised against a man's will for a considerable length of time...

no... new ball specs won't help a man suffering that condition...

tskimny
06-07-2011, 03:24 AM
i am huge Djokovic fan but he did choke.
He did it before back in 2008.

Whenever he is so close to getting to No.1 which is his lifelong dream, he gets tight and plays horribly.

Not the best way to get his No. 1 ranking, but he will get there.
I would have loved him to have won the French Open but he can be No. 1 after Wimbledon.

I hope he wins Wimby. Possible but only if he gets to his attacking game mode. Not the way his tight game with Fed at the semis of french open. Too painful to watch the 1st and 2nd set. Soo disappointing I had to leave home.

stewietennis
06-07-2011, 03:31 AM
People are so quick to criticize and be mad at Roger for the way he played against Nadal in 2011 RG final.

What about Novak?

Havent heard as much critique of Novak.

He won everything all year, yet failed to win RG. Im sure he would trade Rome etc for RG.

He must be so mad with himself?

I know theres a long way to go the rest of the season, but the jury is still out on Novak on Grass.

Discuss.

I don't think so. McEnroe isn't remembered for blowing the French Open finals, even though he was on a streak. He's remembered for other achievements.

hipolymer
06-07-2011, 03:34 AM
I don't think so. McEnroe isn't remembered for blowing the French Open finals,

uhh actually he is remembered for that. Novak won't be remembered for his opportunity at RG this year because he didn't even reach the finals let alone blow a 2 sets lead. McEnroe will always have that looming over his head.

Kat_YYZ
06-07-2011, 05:26 AM
If Novak Djokovic retired tomorrow, he'd be remembered for 2 Australian Opens, 9 Masters 1000 titles, being a WTF champion and for having the longest winning streak of the past 25 years, NOT losing in the semis of the French
Don't forget one Olympic bronze medal and Davis Cup championship! :wavey:

Nole will be fine; he'll have plenty of other chances ;)

stewietennis
06-07-2011, 05:50 AM
uhh actually he is remembered for that. Novak won't be remembered for his opportunity at RG this year because he didn't even reach the finals let alone blow a 2 sets lead. McEnroe will always have that looming over his head.

McEnroe probably has that looming over his head but it hasn't even been brought up until Novak was close to breaking that streak at the French Open. If you were to list three things you remember about JMac, that wouldn't make it. He's remembered for other things.
1. Temper
2. Retiring Borg
3. Compiling a season best 82-3 record.

Mimi
06-07-2011, 06:05 AM
Yes,,Novak F*** uo big time,,he could have had a RG title in his back pocket ,,full of confidence to try & win on his weakest surface...He allowed the old man to school him...Novak has let down tennis fans all around the world,,with nadull level of play in the 1st 3 sets ,,Novak would have made it more competitive.
NOVAK DJOKOVIC ROBBED TENNIS FAN,,F*** tool.

sorry that Rafa has hurt you so much :haha:

MIMIC
06-07-2011, 06:07 AM
I think hardcore tennis fans will remember it, but I don't think it's going to be a significant part of his "legacy". People rarely remember semi-final losses.

murex
06-07-2011, 07:17 AM
It's hard to say
If he manage to win W,he maybe to have one more big strike...
Why everybody remember Joey Mc?

Corey Feldman
06-07-2011, 10:18 AM
great title :lol:

abraxas21
06-07-2011, 10:28 AM
great title :lol:

hahaha in that sense, novak will certainly be remembered. :lol:

dencod16
06-07-2011, 04:22 PM
Novak did not blow it instead Federer blew it by winning that match. Federer has now done irreparable damage to his legacy. The French crowd wanted Federer to win. What's funny is that the French crowd don't like Nadal and yet they cheered on the guy had a 0% chance of beating Nadal. That is stupid if you ask me.

Everyone knows that the French Open crowd lacks attention.

Langers
06-07-2011, 04:57 PM
djokovic and murray are MM tournament kings.
AO is a MM tournament?

timafi
06-07-2011, 04:58 PM
Federer whooped his ass nice and simple :shrug:

Corey Feldman
06-07-2011, 05:01 PM
he blew the big one, the small one and a few medium ones

worky
06-07-2011, 06:57 PM
I would say that Frauderer will be remembered for blowing his only lifetime chance to beat Nadal on RG :wavey: it was now or never, so-never.

green25814
06-07-2011, 07:23 PM
Not really. At his best, Federer will nearly always beat Djokovic imo. Not much Nole can do. He's just unlucky Fed decided to show up, he didn't really choke or anything.

Pretty sure people are more likely to remember his insane streak.

And he hasn't lost the mental edge over Nadal, not yet anyway.

mark73
06-07-2011, 08:00 PM
When humans eventually die out he will not be remembered for anything. :lol:

MacTheKnife
06-07-2011, 08:10 PM
McEnroe probably has that looming over his head but it hasn't even been brought up until Novak was close to breaking that streak at the French Open. If you were to list three things you remember about JMac, that wouldn't make it. He's remembered for other things.
1. Temper
2. Retiring Borg
3. Compiling a season best 82-3 record.

I sort of agree with this, but I bet if you asked John (off camera) he'd tell you that his biggest regret is choking away a two set lead to Lendl in the FO final. It sure still sticks in my mind. As one of his biggest fans, I'm still not over it.. ;)

Topspindoctor
06-08-2011, 01:30 AM
I sort of agree with this, but I bet if you asked John (off camera) he'd tell you that his biggest regret is choking away a two set lead to Lendl in the FO final. It sure still sticks in my mind. As one of his biggest fans, I'm still not over it.. ;)

McEnroe said many times that RG '84 is the biggest disappointment of his career. He still has nightmares about that final. You only need to see how he lovingly caresses the trophy whenever he presents it to the winner. It was one of the biggest chokes ever IMO.

Mountaindewslave
06-08-2011, 03:50 AM
nole is the new world #1. his time is just starting.

he should be able to collect 2 slams a year with his movement of death and his game.

he plays the game efficiently and its basically devoid of any glaring holes.

haha, such a bold statement given the nature of him never having won more than 1 a season before, and only 2 in total..............

Mountaindewslave
06-08-2011, 03:55 AM
careergrandslam@ is the worst fanboy ever....At least GSM Nadal or Clay Death or Topspindoctor support Nadal all the way as they should buy you mate are a joke....Murray and Djokovic and Federer are more talented that Nadal even though he is a great player but plain player...If Federer never played the best match on clay in his life your idol would never win this RG and you know it...You are a JOKE.....

^^^ i agree with this, real fans stick by their player no matter hot or cold, poor or rich, good or bad

coonster14
06-08-2011, 05:27 AM
Nole didn't blow it.

His biggest problem that day was JesusFed showed up and took the match and winning streak away from Nole, with Roger playing and serving the way he did in that SF, there wasn't much that Nole could do to stop it.

However, I do agree that it was a very big missed opportunity for Nole to win his 1st FO title, especially as he has beaten Rafa the last 4 times they have met, would have made for a more interesting FO final.

Okram04
06-08-2011, 06:53 AM
McEnroe said many times that RG '84 is the biggest disappointment of his career. He still has nightmares about that final. You only need to see how he lovingly caresses the trophy whenever he presents it to the winner. It was one of the biggest chokes ever IMO.

I don't think he choked there. After the first two sets Jesus Lendl showed up and put some wicked lobs and passing shots to confuse JMac and put JMac off his S&V game. It worked and he won.

2003
06-09-2014, 12:50 AM
If Nadal retires with 17 or 18 slams, Federer will sure wish he had tanked that 2011 semi..

2003
06-10-2014, 09:38 AM
he blew the big one, the small one and a few medium ones

Ahh but no, he has become the masters series king. NID is Djokovic beating Nadal in 3 sets on any surface.

But some the big one..he blows.

Odd he can win 2 sets on clay in a masters but not in Paris. Novak, blowing the big one since 2011 RG.

elpistolero7
06-10-2014, 11:22 AM
If Nadal retires with 17 or 18 slams, Federer will sure wish he had tanked that 2011 semi..

And thank God that Nadal got injured in 2009 at the French and had to skip Wimbledon too.

2008 showed who in this past generation truly deserved the channel slam.

Frauderer gonna vulture though. NID.

SliceAce
06-10-2014, 11:41 AM
Ahh but no, he has become the masters series king. NID is Djokovic beating Nadal in 3 sets on any surface.

But some the big one..he blows.

Odd he can win 2 sets on clay in a masters but not in Paris. Novak, blowing the big one since 2011 RG.

2003 welcome to the Anti-Dull alliance :yeah: Dark times at the moment but I get the feeling things will be looking up for Wimbledon even now that Gimpovic is useless.

Honestly
06-10-2014, 11:51 AM
Yup, it was the defining moment of his career and he blew it. He should have come back in the fourth when he broke back and it cooled down. The stage was set and Nadal was getting nervous, but he dropped serve again right away with a double fault and blamed it on the crowd. Huge choke.

Right On
06-10-2014, 12:18 PM
Depends, not only on this season but also the ~5 seasons thereafter. He has a lot to prove right now.

anticaria
06-10-2014, 02:30 PM
A big fat YES, slams are what you're remembered for, and he didn't win it. It was same old, same old Fedal that upped their level at the right time, like the true legends of the game. Have fun with your masters trophies Novak.


yup.. I'm afraid the window of opportunity for beating rafa in paris closed shut for good on novak this past sunday.. it was rafa's way of saying: you'll never beat me here.. ever!

and even if by some miracle nole manages to win paris at some point by somehow avoiding rafa (much like roger did by a stroke of sheer providence in '09), such a win, like's roger's, will totally lack validity and deserve a big fat * for they both needed to vanquish rafa at roland garros for it to mean anything and yet they both failed time and time again.. heck, neither has even been able to take rafa to 5 sets in a paris final or even come close to winning..

again, the only way a player can erase a staggering 0:5 or 0:6 h2h deficit is by somehow managing to beat rafa in a paris final.. unfortunately for novak, that ain't gonna happen at this point so he might be largely remembered for being one of the greatest players never to win paris and truly one of the great underachievers of his generation..