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Uncle Tony: Fed's "mentality against Rafael is not the best"

SheepleBuster
06-06-2011, 12:09 AM
As published on Yahoo Sports: But Toni Nadal, Rafael’s uncle and coach, spoke plainly after Sunday’s match.

“The game of Rafael is not too good for Roger,” Toni said, adding that Federer’s “mentality against Rafael is not the best.”

Even Uncle Tony can see this.... I wish Federer could too. But I am not sure Roger can play any better against Rafa on clay than he did in the first 3 sets. no?

http://sports.yahoo.com/tennis/news;_ylt=Av9YZBN_zADnZrOVkIcy4Rw4v7YF?slug=ap-frenchopen

janko05
06-06-2011, 12:29 AM
Enlighten us o mighty Uncle Sherlock. We are so ignorant :worship:

ballbasher101
06-06-2011, 12:33 AM
Uncle Toni tell us something we don't know. He is honest I will give him that. Time to teach Nadal some of that honesty.

tests
06-06-2011, 12:40 AM
Uncle Toni tell us something we don't know. He is honest I will give him that. Time to teach Nadal some of that honesty.

Toni finally admitting it? nadal is > fed

Chair Umpire
06-06-2011, 12:41 AM
Yahoo sports = Crap.

Saberq
06-06-2011, 12:49 AM
No shit

Mungo
06-06-2011, 12:51 AM
Toni Nadal is too nice to Fed saying that. BTW does Fed have a coach?

Topspindoctor
06-06-2011, 03:23 AM
:rolleyes:

This thread will turn into Fedtard excuse central before long.

Clay Death
06-06-2011, 03:32 AM
:rolleyes:

This thread will turn into Fedtard excuse central before long.

we can respect the smart federereeeeesians. they are thoughtful and reasonable.

its the clueless ones who are pissing and moaning like never before. and they get worse with each passing slam.

amusing stuff. its free entertainment for us.

whatashot
06-06-2011, 08:06 AM
I think he means that Federer is too easily affected by gamesmanship.

Sophocles
06-06-2011, 09:31 AM
Yeah. I agree with whoever said at least he's honest.

Corey Feldman
06-06-2011, 09:33 AM
Nadal might be Toni's boy but he wishes he had Federer, you can tell he prefers Federer

its like Mourinho wishing he had Barcelona

GSMnadal
06-06-2011, 09:34 AM
It's not the best, it's right up there though? :rolleyes:

Just say it's crap Tony.

madmax
06-06-2011, 09:37 AM
I think he means that Federer is too easily affected by gamesmanship.

this

paseo
06-06-2011, 09:56 AM
duh..

SheepleBuster
06-06-2011, 11:53 AM
Nadal might be Toni's boy but he wishes he had Federer, you can tell he prefers Federer

its like Mourinho wishing he had Barcelona

Why? Who would want a mental midget as a son?

william_renshaw
06-06-2011, 11:57 AM
gamesmanship? When has Rafa ever used 'gamesmanship'? He just focuses on his own tennis, he doesn't need to resort to any questionable tactics.

SheepleBuster
06-06-2011, 12:13 PM
gamesmanship? When has Rafa ever used 'gamesmanship'? He just focuses on his own tennis, he doesn't need to resort to any questionable tactics.

He pretends he is injured when he starts nervous. Come on.. You know that

nsidhan
06-06-2011, 02:11 PM
I think Uncle Toni just called Fed a MENTAL MIDGET.

Fujee
06-06-2011, 02:19 PM
Toni is clearly within his rights to say that because it's true. Toni seems like a nice guy, i imagine they are very hospitable people.

MacTheKnife
06-06-2011, 03:10 PM
Federer is not as good on clay as Nadal. Who doesn't know that. He never has been and never will be. But let's face it, the guy just made the RG final and only dropped one set on the way. Any reasonable tennis fan knows Fed is not the best on clay but he has done far better than any other player in the "all time great" discussion.

Toni is exactly right. Nadal clearly has the mental edge in that match up. Nothing new here.

Sophocles
06-06-2011, 03:17 PM
Federer is not as good on clay as Nadal. Who doesn't know that. He never has been and never will be. But let's face it, the guy just made the RG final and only dropped one set on the way. Any reasonable tennis fan knows Fed is not the best on clay but he has done far better than any other player in the "all time great" discussion.

Toni is exactly right. Nadal clearly has the mental edge in that match up. Nothing new here.

Although interestingly, to pick a pertinent example, you could also accuse McEnroe of choking in at least 2 big R.G. matches, the notorious final against Lendl & the 1985 semi against Wilander, where he had leads in all 3 sets but still lost in straights. Both those guys were better than Mac on clay, but he was nonetheless playing well enough to beat them on those occasions if he'd kept his head. Maybe it comes down to what Fed was trying to say in his presser: an attacking player who is relatively weak on clay is always prone to what looks like choking against a better claycourter with a more defensive game, just because he can win only if enough of his risks come off - which they usually don't. He knows it, & the claycourter knows it too.

star
06-06-2011, 03:21 PM
Although interestingly, to pick a pertinent example, you could also accuse McEnroe of choking in at least 2 big R.G. matches, the notorious final against Lendl & the 1985 semi against Wilander, where he had leads in all 3 sets but still lost in straights. Both those guys were better than Mac on clay, but he was nonetheless playing well enough to beat them on those occasions if he'd kept his head. Maybe it comes down to what Fed was trying to say in his presser: an attacking player who is relatively weak on clay is always prone to what looks like choking against a better claycourter with a more defensive game, just because he can win only if enough of his risks come off - which they usually don't. He knows it, & the claycourter knows it too.

Speaking of Mac, and completely :topic: Did you all notice that the first U.S. Junior since Jmac won RG this year?

Sophocles
06-06-2011, 03:22 PM
Speaking of Mac, and completely :topic: Did you all notice that the first U.S. Junior since Jmac won RG this year?

Yes, saw that.

star
06-06-2011, 03:23 PM
Yes, saw that.

And were you thrilled????

:hug: I'm sure you were. :)

sexybeast
06-06-2011, 03:35 PM
Federer is not as good on clay as Nadal. Who doesn't know that. He never has been and never will be. But let's face it, the guy just made the RG final and only dropped one set on the way. Any reasonable tennis fan knows Fed is not the best on clay but he has done far better than any other player in the "all time great" discussion.

Toni is exactly right. Nadal clearly has the mental edge in that match up. Nothing new here.

I agree, in my opinion Federer is better on clay than Laver. However it is a fact that he reacts mentally as a weakling to his greatest challenge in tennis courts and this has to be taken into consideration in GOAT discussions.

Laver might never have faced a challenge like Nadal, he in fact was the one 5 years younger than his rival Rosewall and started to dominate Rosewall when Rosewall was more than 30 years old. Still you cant get away with showing such weak mental strength as Federer, it needs to be taken into consideration when we speak about GOATs. His terrible 5 set statistics aswell. Maybe he can still be the GOAT with all these arguments against him, but I certanly cant rank him above Laver with all the weak mentality he has shown over the years.

I can forgive him to be 8-25 against Nadal H2H, but he cant be showing to be weak mentally on the court if he is the GOAT, that I cant forgive.

star
06-06-2011, 03:41 PM
I agree, in my opinion Federer is better on clay than Laver. However it is a fact that he reacts mentally as a weakling to his greatest challenge in tennis courts and this has to be taken into consideration in GOAT discussions.

Laver might never have faced a challenge like Nadal, he in fact was the one 5 years younger than his rival Rosewall and started to dominate Rosewall when Rosewall was more than 30 years old. Still you cant get away with showing such weak mental strength as Federer, it needs to be taken into consideration when we speak about GOATs. His terrible 5 set statistics aswell. Maybe he can still be the GOAT with all these arguments against him, but I certanly cant rank him above Laver with all the weak mentality he has shown over the years.

I can forgive him to be 8-25 against Nadal H2H, but he cant be showing to be weak mentally on the court if he is the GOAT, that I cant forgive.

At one point in his career, Laver was the younger. But, he won RG when he was an old man too.

But, why in the world does this make ANY difference. Why the obsession about who is the greatest? All the greats are marvelous in their own time and place. When I first started watching tennis the commentators were always nattering on about Laver this and Laver that. I was so annoyed. Laver wasn't playing. I couldn't have cared two beans about the old guy. Now that I have fond memories of my past tennis heros, I understand them a bit better. I appreciate tennis history, but the obsession with WHO IS THE GREATEST? leaves me cold.

Sophocles
06-06-2011, 04:10 PM
Why the obsession about who is the greatest?

It's a boy thing. What do you think we talk about down the pub?

star
06-06-2011, 05:43 PM
It's a boy thing. What do you think we talk about down the pub?

Women? :shrug:

I say women, but you know what I mean. ;)

finishingmove
06-06-2011, 05:47 PM
federer should retire for fans of tennis who don't want to see anymore fedal

Topspin Forehand
06-06-2011, 06:31 PM
Uncle Toni sounds like a Nadal hater sometimes. lol Fed doesn't feel comfortable with the matchup. Even if he can play great tennis at times. He doesn't feel he can keep it up when his backhand is constantly assaulted. Especially on clay.

luie
06-06-2011, 06:33 PM
Yes fed needs to improve his focus,,he is too easily distracted by nadull's cheating & gamesmanship.Taking a MTO to fix F*** bandages in the first set after you just came-out. This nadull/uncle toni combination is good.
They should writing a book on the "art of subtle & not so subtle cheating n' gamesmanship"