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abraxas21
05-31-2011, 06:42 PM
if djokovic wins this, he becomes el número 1 in the world no matter what. can olderer give a helping hand to rafito here? perhaps he has a chance here as he's playing better than in 2005 :D

stay tuned

SheepleBuster
05-31-2011, 06:43 PM
Someone is getting bageled either way :)

Jaz
05-31-2011, 06:43 PM
Djokovic in 4 I think

castle007
05-31-2011, 06:43 PM
Let's go Federer! :)

GSMnadal
05-31-2011, 06:43 PM
Allez Roger! Take the man down in 5!

Start da Game
05-31-2011, 06:43 PM
clownderer will be wasted in 4 sets......

straitup
05-31-2011, 06:44 PM
Djokovic in 4

SheepleBuster
05-31-2011, 06:44 PM
Now, this semi would be even more fun if Soderling just wastes that mug moonballer.

Pirata.
05-31-2011, 06:44 PM
Head says Djokovic in 3
Heart says Shankerer in 5

solowyn
05-31-2011, 06:44 PM
Fed to join the 0-4 club with Rafito, unfortunately.

iriraz
05-31-2011, 06:45 PM
If it`s windy like today it can go either way really.Hopefully it`s sunny and the conditions won`t disturb the players.

MaxPower
05-31-2011, 06:45 PM
A match everyone wanted too see. That is good at least! I think Federer has a much larger chance than people generally believe but that he falls just short. Except some walkabouts to Mirkaland he has looked very solid. Hope it goes to at least 4 sets. Djokovic in 4

ZaZoo)
05-31-2011, 06:45 PM
Ajde Noleeee! :rocker2:

gulzhan
05-31-2011, 06:46 PM
I hope for a great semi with Djokovic winning it in 5 :rocker2:

Branimir
05-31-2011, 06:46 PM
Nole in 4 :)

Angled Backhand
05-31-2011, 06:46 PM
Hope it's a good match and not a straight set blowout. Preferably not an ultra long five-setter either. Don't need that for the final.

LinkMage
05-31-2011, 06:46 PM
Djokovic to **** Fedmug 6-3 6-4 6-2

Fedmug will probably blow up 18 BPs. :stupid:

Silvester
05-31-2011, 06:47 PM
ugh I used to hate the NOvak matchup even when Federer was winning most of them, hate them even more now. I'm hoping for a Federer win in 5 however wouldn't be suprised if Novak wins.

abraxas21
05-31-2011, 06:47 PM
Head says Djokovic in 3
Heart says Shankerer in 5

if you follow your heart, fedmug will still lose against nadal in the final

Lleyton_
05-31-2011, 06:47 PM
Semirer will lose in the SF again:o

ufiors
05-31-2011, 06:47 PM
6-4 4-6 6-4 7-5 Roger

viruzzz
05-31-2011, 06:49 PM
blah blah blah, haters gonna hate.
Djokovic is scared.

SheepleBuster
05-31-2011, 06:49 PM
Let's be clear guys. Fed can beat Novak on clay. Will he? I am not sure. He is just too inconsistent. But Fed will challenge him. this is not hard courts. I think Novak is a much worse match up for Roger on hard courts. Then again... Novak is good everywhere. If Federer plays like today, expect Djokovic to win like Australia in 3 years. I personally don't mind seeing anyone in the final except Nadal. How about Murray Djokovic in another final? :)

Filo V.
05-31-2011, 06:49 PM
I'm not going to call it, I think it's very 50-50. Conditions will play a major factor, as will the start from both players.

Johnny Groove
05-31-2011, 06:50 PM
Another awesome matchup.

Federer in 5 epic sets.

Time Violation
05-31-2011, 06:50 PM
If 2011 Djokovic appears, Nole in 3. If not, God knows :p

iriraz
05-31-2011, 06:50 PM
No matter how good Djokovic is playing atm,if it`s windy like today it will be a long match and lots of struggle.

Aenea
05-31-2011, 06:52 PM
Federer has a better chance of beating Novak than anybody else on tour atm.
For me - Fed will win.

yuri27
05-31-2011, 06:52 PM
Djokovic in straight sets.

EliSter
05-31-2011, 06:52 PM
Djokovic to **** Fedmug 6-3 6-4 6-2

Fedmug will probably blow up 18 BPs. :stupid:

This :o

jcempire
05-31-2011, 06:53 PM
olderer has a chance here as he's playing better than in 2005 :D

Are you kidding me? better than 2005????

GO DJOKER, kills 30 years old

D-joker 6-4 6-3 6-1

finishingmove
05-31-2011, 06:53 PM
bakery products, let's go

TheRafaelNadal
05-31-2011, 06:53 PM
Federer to blow this overated Joker out of the water in 3.

SerialKillerToBe
05-31-2011, 06:54 PM
Federer to blow this overated Joker out of the water in 3.

Sad how scared these Nadulltards are.

rofe
05-31-2011, 06:54 PM
If Fed uses his trademark variety, it could go to 4 sets. If not, easy 3 set win for Novak.

ballbasher101
05-31-2011, 06:55 PM
60-40 in Nole's favour but Federer does have a chance. Would love Federer to win another French but Nole does deserve to win his third major here.

Sophocles
05-31-2011, 06:57 PM
Federer has a better chance of beating Novak than anybody else on tour atm.
For me - Fed will win.

I agree with the 1st sentence but not with the 2nd. Best chance of beating Novak here, yes - but that chance is about 15%.

Djoker in 4.

Sunset of Age
05-31-2011, 06:57 PM
Djokovic in straights.
Hope I'm wrong. Very, very wrong. :)

a_boy
05-31-2011, 06:58 PM
The time is up. Novak better get up early tomorrow to enjoy as many hours of his undefeated streak as he can.

:p lol

tennizen
05-31-2011, 06:58 PM
Novak in 5.

Fujee
05-31-2011, 06:58 PM
Would seem fitting that the last man Nole lost to, also ends the streak. Heart says Fed in 5, Head says Nole in 4

Bigselber
05-31-2011, 06:59 PM
Hard to say, I don't have a clue really. If Federer can vary his game, I think he can take this in 4

Orka_n
05-31-2011, 06:59 PM
I hope the wind is to blame for Fed's avarage game level today. In any case I don't think he's beating Novak here. He should make it a little interesting though. Nole in 4?

EliSter
05-31-2011, 07:00 PM
I honestly have no clue...if Joker plays his usual 2011 tennis he will straight Fed in 3...but if Fedmug wakes up and play great it can go in 5 :o I hope Joker wins cause if Nadal gets into final with Fed its 99% his title...

luie
05-31-2011, 07:00 PM
Novak will demolish fed.

Diprosalic
05-31-2011, 07:01 PM
Djoker in easy 3 sets. Federer in for a worse beating than the 08 Finals.

Start da Game
05-31-2011, 07:01 PM
Another awesome matchup.

Federer in 5 epic sets.

blind worshiping at its best......you are turning out to be a bigger joke than bonnie the cat and arkulari.......

fed will have done great if he manages to take a set in this one.......

castle007
05-31-2011, 07:02 PM
Let's be clear guys. Fed can beat Novak on clay. Will he? I am not sure. He is just too inconsistent. But Fed will challenge him. this is not hard courts. I think Novak is a much worse match up for Roger on hard courts. Then again... Novak is good everywhere. If Federer plays like today, expect Djokovic to win like Australia in 3 years. I personally don't mind seeing anyone in the final except Nadal. How about Murray Djokovic in another final? :)


I certainly hope that they won't be playing this match for three years :lol:

tennisace28
05-31-2011, 07:02 PM
Fed to join the 0-4 club with Rafito, unfortunately.

Affirmative, fed no chance, will be slaughtered mercilessly by the Serbian barbarian

Johnny Groove
05-31-2011, 07:04 PM
blind worshiping at its best......you are turning out to be a bigger joke than bonnie the cat and arkulari.......

fed will have done great if he manages to take a set in this one.......

Now this is rich. Start da Game calling me a blind worshipper :spit:

Arkulari
05-31-2011, 07:05 PM
Djokovic to **** Fedmug 6-3 6-4 6-2

Fedmug will probably blow up 18 BPs. :stupid:

This :o

I hope I'm wrong and Roger can reach the final but it is not likely with the level he had today.

MIMIC
05-31-2011, 07:05 PM
Djoker in 3 :rocker2:

Nadal is lonely in the 0-4 YTD club

Arkulari
05-31-2011, 07:05 PM
Now this is rich. Start da Game calling me a blind worshipper :spit:

You know better than to listen to ignorant cricket boy, Jon ;)

Orka_n
05-31-2011, 07:06 PM
Now this is rich. Start da Game calling me a blind worshipper :spit:He calls everyone that. And Fed's Mate calls everyone "gloryhunter". It's quite fascinating really this pot, black attitude.

Johnny Groove
05-31-2011, 07:07 PM
You know better than to listen to ignorant cricket boy, Jon ;)

Of course, but MTF hypocrisy is always humorous ;)

SheepleBuster
05-31-2011, 07:07 PM
I certainly hope that they won't be playing this match for three years :lol:

I meant three sets. You know what I meant :)

Certinfy
05-31-2011, 07:07 PM
Djokovic in 4, maybe even 3. All I know is I'll definitely have a few orgasms watching this.

Johnny Groove
05-31-2011, 07:08 PM
He calls everyone that. And Fed's Mate calls everyone "gloryhunter". It's quite fascinating really this pot, black stuff.

MTF would drive Socrates, Aristotle, Plato and Freud mad :p

Sunset of Age
05-31-2011, 07:08 PM
Now this is rich. Start da Game calling me a blind worshipper :spit:

Oh, didn't he call you a fake Nadal fan as well? :p :worship:

Andy_POL
05-31-2011, 07:09 PM
I cant believe I'm saying this but -- COME ON FEDERER !
I say Roger wins in five...

Johnny Groove
05-31-2011, 07:09 PM
Oh, didn't he call you a fake Nadal fan as well? :p :worship:

Something like that :p

EliSter
05-31-2011, 07:09 PM
Djokovic in 4, maybe even 3. All I know is I'll definitely have a few orgasms watching this.

:o:D

abollo
05-31-2011, 07:10 PM
I feel like Roger will win if Soderling defeats Nadal tomorrow so Djoko will have his Nr.1 spot ready

paseo
05-31-2011, 07:10 PM
Fed to summon NinjaFed and slice through Djokovic in 4 sets.

Alex999
05-31-2011, 07:11 PM
Based on their current form, Nole should win in 3. Roger is not as consistent as Novak. The worst case scenario is Nole in 4.

Bigselber
05-31-2011, 07:12 PM
Federer can win in 3 and he can win in 4, but there's close to 0% chance he'll win it in 5

Start da Game
05-31-2011, 07:13 PM
Of course, but MTF hypocrisy is always humorous ;)

yes, it's on display currently.......a poster who calls himself a nadal fan goes around worshiping fed in every thread to the extent that he can't even see the current trends in the game.......somebody calls him out on the hypocrisy and jump in the other hypocrites to support their fellow hypocrite.......

i am enjoying this stuff.......

Arkulari
05-31-2011, 07:14 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha:

ob·jec·tiv·i·ty   
[ob-jik-tiv-i-tee, -jek-]
–noun
1.
the state or quality of being objective: He tries to maintain objectivity in his judgment.
2.
intentness on objects external to the mind.
3.
external reality.

Johnny Groove
05-31-2011, 07:15 PM
yes, it's on display currently.......a poster who calls himself a nadal fan goes around worshiping fed in every thread to the extent that he can't even see the current trends in the game.......somebody calls him out on the hypocrisy and jump in the other hypocrites to support their fellow hypocrite.......

i am enjoying this stuff.......

This is too much :spit: :rolls:

Arkulari
05-31-2011, 07:16 PM
Have some Jon:

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_EUHZN8VnHe4/SzL0wKWXEgI/AAAAAAAAAmo/EjPz7J02pOo/popcorn_thumb.gif

xdrewitdajx
05-31-2011, 07:18 PM
Federer being written off way too easily/frequently. I want Djokovic's streak to continue but I'd say it's a 50/50 match. I think Djokovic would rather play Nadal at this point, to be honest.

Lleyton_
05-31-2011, 07:19 PM
By the way it's Federer who DjokoGOAT must beat to become no.1, not Nadal and rightly so :worship:

Singularity
05-31-2011, 07:20 PM
yes, it's on display currently.......a poster who calls himself a nadal fan goes around worshiping fed in every thread to the extent that he can't even see the current trends in the game.......somebody calls him out on the hypocrisy and jump in the other hypocrites to support their fellow hypocrite.......

i am enjoying this stuff.......
It is in fact possible to support more than one player at once.

Doggy
05-31-2011, 07:20 PM
Federer will be on fire, I just know it. No pressure, he will take out Dojokovic in 3 or 4 sets

Alex999
05-31-2011, 07:21 PM
By the way it's Federer who DjokoGOAT must beat to become no.1, not Nadal and rightly so :worship:
fair enough, but in order to cement his new #1 position he should def. both Roger and Nadal/Soda and win RG :D.

asmaridis
05-31-2011, 07:21 PM
Djokovic in 4 I believe. Novak's shots are much more solid, consistent and deeper than those of that mug Monfils. Bombarding Federer's backhand should be enough to him through :)

rocketassist
05-31-2011, 07:23 PM
I hope Roger can pull this out. Especially if Soderking does the biz tomorrow.

Fed v Soda/Muzz = orgasmic
Rafole = tragic

Vamos!

SERBINATOR
05-31-2011, 07:23 PM
Nole in 5

This is the biggest test for Nole i believe....Finals will be a Walkover if Nadull shows up....he is just a Bunny for Novak

Sonja1989
05-31-2011, 07:23 PM
Probably Djokovic wins in three hard sets. Would be typical Federer (in this year). He hasn't lost set yet and loses to Djokovic in three. I mean it seems when he should seriously fight he can't. See what happened at Dubai. He won easy matches then he won 6 games in final. :awww:

Corey Feldman
05-31-2011, 07:23 PM
laughing at the clowns who think Djokovic having 5 days will hurt him somehow

its no different than when you win a final one week and go to a new tournament the next week and play 1st round - you dont hear ppl then saying they expect a bad 1st round performance because they didnt play for 5 days

and Fed wins in 3

NadalesDios
05-31-2011, 07:27 PM
Federer in 4 sets.The Final will be Nadal vs Federer the true legends of actual tennis.

Start da Game
05-31-2011, 07:27 PM
truth bites exactly in the arse and there's no bigger proof than this.......

You know better than to listen to ignorant cricket boy, Jon ;)

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Have some Jon:

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_EUHZN8VnHe4/SzL0wKWXEgI/AAAAAAAAAmo/EjPz7J02pOo/popcorn_thumb.gif

iriraz
05-31-2011, 07:27 PM
laughing at the clowns who think Djokovic having 5 days will hurt him somehow

its no different than when you win a final one week and go to a new tournament the next week and play 1st round - you dont hear ppl then saying they expect a bad 1st round performance because they didnt play for 5 days

and Fed wins in 3

Yes but when Djokovic play a tourney and then another one next week he certainly doesn`t have to deal with Federer in R1.So if Djokovic isn`t sharp early on Federer can take advantage and bag the first set and then there will be lots of pressure for the serb

Start da Game
05-31-2011, 07:28 PM
Federer in 4 sets.The Final will be Nadal vs Federer the true legends of actual tennis.

not happening, nadalesdios.......djokovic version 2.0 has answer for everything.......there is only one man left in the draw who can stop him.......

Foxy
05-31-2011, 07:30 PM
Rafa in 3. Vamos!

mystic ice cube
05-31-2011, 07:30 PM
clownderer will be wasted in 4 sets......
If he's a clown then why say 4 sets & not 3? So your saying this 'clown' can take a set off Nole? Clearly your boyfriend Nadal is a bigger clown then if he hasn't been able to take a set off him in clay this year.

SERBINATOR
05-31-2011, 07:31 PM
not happening, nadalesdios.......djokovic version 2.0 has answer for everything.......there is only one man left in the draw who can stop him.......

Sorry to burst your bubble Start the Fail
But it's NOT nadull....he is just a Pony to Novak who he likes to pound on the ground each time

if Nadull can take even 1 set then it can be called a Victory :rolleyes:

now if you're speaking of Murray then YES!

icedevil0289
05-31-2011, 07:32 PM
I'm thinking nole in either 4 or 5.

DrJules
05-31-2011, 07:32 PM
Djokovic to win 7-5, 6-2, 6-4.

From seeing Federer over several years there are 2 distinctive areas where he has declined. Firstly, his concentration and focus is not as good which means he often lets players back into sets and matches. Secondly, his movement and balance are not as good. The racket and shot making skill is still there but physically he does not have the platform to deliver and execute as effectively.

Conversely Djokovic is playing the best tennis of his life, physically at his peak and mentally is focused; he is in the zone as they say. He is where Federer was from 2004 to 2006.


On a shot analysis:

Serve: Federer serves better and even on clay can generate aces to save break point on a regular basis. The Djokovic serve is underrated and does enable him to start most service points in charge.

Forehand: Federer can do so much more with his forehand and used to have penetration without the errors. The Djokovic forehand will not break down and can keep him in points.

Backhand: Djokovic has much more penetration on this wing. The Federer backhand often breaks down on high bouncing balls and backhand errors will end a lot of points.

Volleys: Federer better is this area, but on clay will not be able to use this area of competitive advantage as he would on grass or indoors where the conditions are faster and the bounce lower.

Movement: Djokovic has a big advantage in this area which will enable him to execute his shots owing to be in position and well balanced when he hits shots.

Expect Federer to hit more winners and unforced errors than Djokovic and to win more service and first strike points while expect Djokovic to win most of the rallies and longer points.

This match is about who is better now NOT who is greater and Djokovic is now the better player. He has a very very long way to be considered the greater player.

TMJordan
05-31-2011, 07:33 PM
go daddy go

tennizen
05-31-2011, 07:34 PM
Rafa in 3. Vamos!

No matter who plays, the Mallorcan matador always wins:rocker2:

icedevil0289
05-31-2011, 07:35 PM
Oh, didn't he call you a fake Nadal fan as well? :p :worship:

apparently you're only a real nadal fan if you hate fed.

icedevil0289
05-31-2011, 07:38 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha:

he wouldn't know what it meant if it hit him in the head.

Start da Game
05-31-2011, 07:39 PM
apparently you're only a real nadal fan if you hate fed.

garbage......get back to sleep, i see that somebody woke you up for support......

MTwEeZi
05-31-2011, 07:41 PM
Nadal will save tennis

helvet empire
05-31-2011, 07:43 PM
Allez Roger! Take the man down in 5!

don't worry, nadal won't be in the finale to fight a tired player:D:D

Fed=ATPTourkilla
05-31-2011, 07:48 PM
Fed just not good enough at the moment and Nole will be too solid from the back. I don't think anyone's good enough to stop Nole at the moment.

PandoraPandora
05-31-2011, 07:48 PM
Novak in 3. Roger has at least added another semi to his tally but he played badly today against Monfils. In many ways I would like him to win his 2nd French but I doubt it.

asmaridis
05-31-2011, 07:48 PM
Will Federer play Djokovic on Thursday or Friday?

GSMnadal
05-31-2011, 07:49 PM
don't worry, nadal won't be in the finale to fight a tired player:D:D

Hell, take him down in 3, fine by me. Federer doesn't have to be tired in order for Rafa to beat him.

And Nadal will reach the final, Soderling won't take three sets from him. Murray/Chela are non-factors.

solowyn
05-31-2011, 07:49 PM
Will Federer play Djokovic on Thursday or Friday?
Both mens semis are on Friday.

steveo2810
05-31-2011, 07:55 PM
Nole in 4 close sets. Although I think this will be tougher for him than the final.

ballbasher101
05-31-2011, 07:56 PM
Nadal will save tennis

Yes he will save tennis from himself by retiring :lol:.

shiaben
05-31-2011, 07:59 PM
We all know there's just about 2 options.

Either Federer drags his rear end to 5 and wears him out, or Djokovic has a hard fought game and brings him to defeat in 4.

Unfortunately, as a Federer fan, the performance against Monfils wasn't convincing enough, I'm going with Djokovic in 4 tough sets.

zlaja777
05-31-2011, 08:00 PM
If Federer plays like today he has zero chance. Djokovic in 4. Ajde Noleee!

your_valentine
05-31-2011, 08:01 PM
EPIC match. Every selfrespecting tennis fan should watch it. It doesn't matter who wins, because we can be sure that tennis will come on top. It's an early final, which is a shame. I personally cannot wait for this epic encounter and if Novak'a streak has to end, then Roger would be the right person for it :D

Merton
05-31-2011, 08:01 PM
Djokovic at most in 4.

vn01
05-31-2011, 08:02 PM
i have a feeling that federer will end the streak. roger in 4, imo

zlaja777
05-31-2011, 08:04 PM
Stop with all the "to save tennis" crap. This match itself is great for tennis no matter who wins.

TMJordan
05-31-2011, 08:05 PM
daddy to save tennis

Myrre
05-31-2011, 08:05 PM
Federer has to serve out of his mind and be rock solid on his forehand to have a chance. Djokovic is just a machine these days. His consistency will win 60-70% of the rallies. Just don't see Federer having much of a chance, unfortunately. Hope Fed can at least win a set. Predicting Djokovic - Søderling final, with Djokovic winning.

Pat Bateman
05-31-2011, 08:08 PM
Federer can win, he is probably the worst matchup for Djokovic of all the top 10. I think the Monfils match can be disregarded due to the wind, both players were well below their previous level. It'll be close, but I think Federer in 4 sets.

chenx15
05-31-2011, 08:21 PM
I'M giving this to the mighty Fed in 4 he will be in GOAT mode on Thursday. If he loses to Novak then Rafa will be pretty much toast which is good to. i have nothing against rafa it's the die hard federer fan in me that makes me dislike him so much

twisturhead
05-31-2011, 08:25 PM
federer isn't winning this unless nole is nervous/way off his game/or has a freak injury

NikolaBGD
05-31-2011, 08:27 PM
It's time for gathering of Nadal and Fed fans, Jedi against Empire ;)

I've said before the tournament that Fed is my concern, he has a chance if he plays his best...otherwise, Novak in 3.

Sham Kay
05-31-2011, 08:29 PM
Head says Fed in 4, heart says Fed in 4, a little bit lower says Fed in a sexy 5 setter.

freeandlonely
05-31-2011, 08:29 PM
Djokovic in 4.
All the best to both.

_Chaz
05-31-2011, 08:30 PM
Federer in 4, I'm optimistic :)

Voo de Mar
05-31-2011, 08:32 PM
Funny match-up, Federer probably doesn't remember when the last time so many things were against him in a Grand Slam semifinal.

The Swiss is in great form but walkover from Fognini should be a deciding factor for D'Joke's fitness. 3-2 for him.

icedevil0289
05-31-2011, 08:32 PM
I wonder how many people rooting for fed are actually fed fans or just dislike nole and don't want to see him get no.1

MacTheKnife
05-31-2011, 08:33 PM
I don't think Federer has a very good chance to win this match. Which in itself gives him a shot. Let's face it, even die hard Fed fans have to know that this is a long shot. But I have never said "no chance" in my life when it comes to tennis.
Certainty is the mother of fools.

barahmasa
05-31-2011, 08:33 PM
Anything different than a straight sets win from the djoker would be a surprise.
I hope Roger doesn't do anything stupid like tires djoko or god forbid wins this match ;)

DrJules
05-31-2011, 08:36 PM
I wonder how many people rooting for fed are actually fed fans or just dislike nole and don't want to see him get no.1

Most Nadal fans would like to see a Federer win to enable Nadal to keep the number 1 ranking and feel Federer would be much easier to beat in the final than Djokovic for Nadal.

Alex999
05-31-2011, 08:39 PM
I wonder how many people rooting for fed are actually fed fans or just dislike nole and don't want to see him get no.1
I believe that many Rafa fans would also prefer to see Roger def. Nole (assuming Nadal wins his match against Soderling) :D.

Jaz
05-31-2011, 08:39 PM
Only 32% of people think Federer will win.

Underdog

barahmasa
05-31-2011, 08:41 PM
Most Nadal fans would like to see a Federer win to enable Nadal to keep the number 1 ranking and feel Federer would be much easier to beat in the final than Djokovic for Nadal.

Yup, but also lots of people rooting for Novak are actaully Nadal haters and want Nole in the final cause they know he's the only guy who can stop the brute from lifting another RG trophy...

bokehlicious
05-31-2011, 08:41 PM
Fed will restore order and save tennis.

Sapeod
05-31-2011, 08:41 PM
FedGod to save tennis!!! :worship:

finishingmove
05-31-2011, 08:42 PM
djokovic will triple bagel this clown... 6-3 6-3 6-3

Alex999
05-31-2011, 08:42 PM
Most Nadal fans would like to see a Federer win to enable Nadal to keep the number 1 ranking and feel Federer would be much easier to beat in the final than Djokovic for Nadal.

I believe that many Rafa fans would also prefer to see Roger def. Nole (assuming Nadal wins his match against Soderling) :D.
I guess we were typing at the same time ;).

saniapower
05-31-2011, 08:44 PM
Final: Federer vs Soderline

Time Violation
05-31-2011, 08:44 PM
Most Nadal fans would like to see a Federer win to enable Nadal to keep the number 1 ranking and feel Federer would be much easier to beat in the final than Djokovic for Nadal.

Yup, Nadal fans will give anything to see Federer win, as they wouldn't really like to see Nole in final, whether Rafa manages to come there or not. :)

rocketassist
05-31-2011, 08:48 PM
Rafa and Nole fans turning on each other :lol:

solowyn
05-31-2011, 08:50 PM
I don't think Federer has a very good chance to win this match. Which in itself gives him a shot. Let's face it, even die hard Fed fans have to know that this is a long shot. But I have never said "no chance" in my life when it comes to tennis.
Certainty is the mother of fools.
True, I know I always predict Fed/Djok and Fed/Murray matches wrong.

rofe
05-31-2011, 08:50 PM
Hopefully the swirling wind won't win. Unlike a Fed/Nadal match, a Fed/Novak match is a lot better to watch so hope the wind stays away.

barahmasa
05-31-2011, 08:51 PM
Fed will restore order and save tennis.

Yeah, and like you really believe in that...

Come on guys, let's face it,Roger has no business in the final against Nadal, he had 3 chances and pissed his pants everytime he got there. Another Fedal RG final would be nothing less than a walkover for Rafa (for fed fans: that would mean roger's GS advantage sliping to just 6...) Rafa-Nole final promises to be a good one so let's hope that's the final we're gonna see ;)

DrJules
05-31-2011, 08:54 PM
Yeah, and like you really believe in that...

Come on guys, let's face it,Roger has no business in the final against Nadal, he had 3 chances and pissed his pants everytime he got there. Another Fedal RG final would be nothing less than a walkover for Rafa (for fed fans: that would mean roger's GS advantage sliping to just 6...) Rafa-Nole final promises to be a good one so let's hope that's the final we're gonna see ;)

Have you watched Nadal this week. He might struggle to win a set against Djokovic and it could one sided.

janko05
05-31-2011, 08:55 PM
Let's be clear guys. Fed can beat Novak on clay. Will he? I am not sure. He is just too inconsistent. But Fed will challenge him. this is not hard courts. I think Novak is a much worse match up for Roger on hard courts. Then again... Novak is good everywhere. If Federer plays like today, expect Djokovic to win like Australia in 3 years. I personally don't mind seeing anyone in the final except Nadal. How about Murray Djokovic in another final? :)

Seconded :yeah:

guga2120
05-31-2011, 08:57 PM
Nole, to send the arrogant one packing for the 3rd slam in a row.

barahmasa
05-31-2011, 08:57 PM
Have you watched Nadal this week. He might struggle to win a set against Djokovic and it could one sided.

Have you watched rafa aginst petschner and haase in last years wimb? we all know how that tornament ended...

luie
05-31-2011, 09:00 PM
If nadull keeps this form,,I will be disappointed,, that fed had to face PRIME nadull on clay during 05-08,,will this version of nadull could be easisily beaten by any-one with a decent BH....
That how it is some-times.

barahmasa
05-31-2011, 09:02 PM
If nadull keeps this form,,I will be disappointed,, that fed had to face PRIME nadull on clay during 05-08,,will this version of nadull could be easisily beaten by any-one with a decent BH....
That how it is some-times.

that leaves fed out, so you don't have to be disappointed :wavey:

luie
05-31-2011, 09:03 PM
Have you watched rafa aginst petschner and haase in last years wimb? we all know how that tornament ended...
Negative,,Haase/petzner matches were on grass early in the tourny(fresh low bouncing grass) by the second week the grass is worn & plays more like clay...HC & clay maintain their characteristics longer.
Novak has stole nadull's manhood & he has become a scared little girl,& playing wta level tennis.:sad:

MIMIC
05-31-2011, 09:05 PM
I really hope Djoker goes out there and flattens Federer. I wanna feel like I'm at the Olive Garden with and endless order of breadsticks.

barahmasa
05-31-2011, 09:05 PM
Negative,,Haase/petzner matches were on grass early in the tourny(fresh low bouncing grass) by the second week the grass is worn & plays more like clay...HC & clay maintain their characteristics longer.
Novak has stole nadull's manhood & he has become a scared little girl,& playing wta level tennis.:sad:

we'll see about that in the final, let's just hope roger doesn't do anything stupid on friday ;)

luie
05-31-2011, 09:07 PM
that leaves fed out, so you don't have to be disappointed :wavey:
I never stated fed currently would beat nadull,,,he would most likely lose,,as nadull is moonballing more than ever now,which affects fed.. With feds grip high balls will always give him problems.
Just saying what I've always stated nadull's absolute prime is over & would be brutalized by Novak in the finals if he makes it that far.

ballbasher101
05-31-2011, 09:08 PM
Yeah, and like you really believe in that...

Come on guys, let's face it,Roger has no business in the final against Nadal, he had 3 chances and pissed his pants everytime he got there. Another Fedal RG final would be nothing less than a walkover for Rafa (for fed fans: that would mean roger's GS advantage sliping to just 6...) Rafa-Nole final promises to be a good one so let's hope that's the final we're gonna see ;)

Have to agree with you there. The Djoker can beat Rafa. As much as I like Federer he freezes against Nadal each and everytime. The Djoker's rise is good for Federer. The Djoker is the protector of Federer's legacy at the moment. Murray needs to step up.

ossie
05-31-2011, 09:10 PM
i wonder when fed will realize his time is over? djoker in straights.

luie
05-31-2011, 09:10 PM
I really hope Djoker goes out there and flattens Federer. I wanna feel like I'm at the Olive Garden with and endless order of breadsticks.

Difficult to see that happening as in 2008 early part fed was recovering from mono & not @ a high level,,monfils should have won that SF in 2008,but as usual clowned around when it mattered.
Currently fed is just old (not sick)

rocketassist
05-31-2011, 09:13 PM
i wonder when fed will realize his time is over? djoker in straights.

:haha: at your pathetic sig being shortened. A Fed vs Sod/Mur final will have you on suicide watch/

Sunset of Age
05-31-2011, 09:14 PM
Have you watched rafa aginst petschner and haase in last years wimb? we all know how that tornament ended...

Completely different situation, for the following reasons:
1. in those two matches at Wimbledon, Rafa wasn't playing bad at all. He was just getting troubled by two players who had an immense serve that day.
2. if a player indeed even wants to try and bother Rafa at Wimbledon, he must do so in the 1st week, as in de 2nd week there's barely any grass left and the surface plays quite like clay. No wonder Petzschner and Haase only managed to trouble him in week 1.
3. Rafa was riding high on confidence at Wimbledon last year, just having won all of the clay masters' as well as RG, picked up huge buckets of points, & sealed the #1 position.

This year in RG:
4. I dunno if you've actually watched him play this week, but his game is very mediocre right now. His big serve is MIA, his feared BH down-the-line doesn't seem to be working anymore, and worst of all, he's making TONS of UEs - very uncharacteristic.
5. perhaps the most important: after being beaten by Djoko four times in a row, among those beatings two of them on his favourite surface... don't you think that makes quite a dent in his confidence?

Anyways, I'll be happy if Rafa indeed makes it to the final, but right now... I'm not so sure, to say the least.

Commander Data
05-31-2011, 09:19 PM
Based on what I saw the last couple months Nole in 4 if Fed has a good day.

On the other hand, Fed has proven that he has the game to dissect Novak.

Fed said he feels 100% ready for Friday and has no excuses if he loses this, so I look forward to a good game.

bokehlicious
05-31-2011, 09:22 PM
Yeah, and like you really believe in that...

Come on guys, let's face it,Roger has no business in the final against Nadal, he had 3 chances and pissed his pants everytime he got there. Another Fedal RG final would be nothing less than a walkover for Rafa (for fed fans: that would mean roger's GS advantage sliping to just 6...) Rafa-Nole final promises to be a good one so let's hope that's the final we're gonna see ;)

Yeah, surely Fed would be triple bagelled by someone who had to fight 5 sets against an average Isner... On clay...

As for a Rafa-Nole final, that would be terrible, Nadal has no weapons to hurt Djokovic...

rocketassist
05-31-2011, 09:25 PM
Loving those who say Djokovic was a better clay courter than Fed in 2009 and blame his Nadal Madrid defeat for his loss to Kohli two weeks later :lol:

eduggs
05-31-2011, 09:33 PM
As other's have said, Djokovic will likely put tremendous pressure on Federer's serve. Federer will try to vary it, and for sure he has an excellent first and second serve, but there's only so much you can do against Novak. He will have to serve extremely well, get some free points, and hope Novak doesn't have a great serving day himself. Trading breaks is one way Federer could keep things competitive, but Novak is serving much better this year, and this is not Federer's preferred way to win.

The other hope for Federer is that something rattles Novak's confidence - maybe the weather or the situation - so he doesn't hit with such aggression and precision. Federer could thrive on any lapse in confidence from Novak. But Federer needs some easy service games to get his own confidence up, and complicating the serve is one of Novak's greatest strengths.

From what I have seen from both players, I expect Djokovic to win in 3 or possibly 4 sets. But I don't want to take away anything from Federer. I think he is a better competitor, and overall a better player, than most people are giving him credit for recently. So I cannot count him out. His slight decrease in quickness and explosiveness takes away some of his shotmaking and defense compared to his peak, but he has not declined significantly IMO.

RagingLamb
05-31-2011, 09:43 PM
You can never count Federer out.

He has been playing well and hasn't lost a set this tournament. He'll be motivated because he has something to prove. So I think he'll end the streak.

Mountaindewslave
05-31-2011, 09:43 PM
send this punk home Roger

Start da Game
05-31-2011, 09:49 PM
As other's have said, Djokovic will likely put tremendous pressure on Federer's serve. Federer will try to vary it, and for sure he has an excellent first and second serve, but there's only so much you can do against Novak. He will have to serve extremely well, get some free points, and hope Novak doesn't have a great serving day himself. Trading breaks is one way Federer could keep things competitive, but Novak is serving much better this year, and this is not Federer's preferred way to win.

The other hope for Federer is that something rattles Novak's confidence - maybe the weather or the situation - so he doesn't hit with such aggression and precision. Federer could thrive on any lapse in confidence from Novak. But Federer needs some easy service games to get his own confidence up, and complicating the serve is one of Novak's greatest strengths.

From what I have seen from both players, I expect Djokovic to win in 3 or possibly 4 sets. But I don't want to take away anything from Federer. I think he is a better competitor, and overall a better player, than most people are giving him credit for recently. So I cannot count him out. His slight decrease in quickness and explosiveness takes away some of his shotmaking and defense compared to his peak, but he has not declined significantly IMO.

whatever federina ever did, djokovic 2.0 does better excepting the serve and the slice.......djokovic also doesn't doubt himself anymore and that's basically curtains for whatever little hope federina had.......

the only way to beat him is by hitting through his great defense which is totally out of question for the south african.......

it will most probably be done in 4 sets.......congrats in advance to nole fans upon their player becoming the no.1 in the world.......

FerrerAndNadal
05-31-2011, 09:51 PM
Nole this, Nole that, Leading in poll is this Nole, Roger will prevail. Bank on it.

Rafa#Uno:-)
05-31-2011, 09:54 PM
Fed wins in 5 set. Best match of the year.
Bet 3,5 on fed now.

Deivid23
05-31-2011, 09:55 PM
Nole in 5

ossie
05-31-2011, 09:57 PM
:haha: at your pathetic sig being shortened. A Fed vs Sod/Mur final will have you on suicide watch/
most of the masters these days are nothing more than mugfests anyway so i will replace them with things like djokers streak and other noteworthy achievements :shrug:

oh and lol at fed, sod or murray in the french open final, its going to be rafa vs djoker an you know it stop kidding youself.

SheepleBuster
05-31-2011, 09:59 PM
I wonder if Roger tanks this match strategically. Let's face it. Roger wn't be beating Nadal in a 5 set match on clay. Novak does have the tools to spank nadal here. Why risk giving Nadal another slam in the final when you can let the good old Nole to put Nadal further in a mental crisis.

rocketassist
05-31-2011, 09:59 PM
most of the masters these days are nothing more than mugfests anyway so i will replace them with things like djokers streak and other noteworthy achievements :shrug:

oh and lol at fed, sod or murray in the french open final, its going to be rafa vs djoker an you know it stop kidding youself.

well done on admitting you're nothing other than a glory hunting, bandwagoning piece of shit. No wonder you have the opinions you do as the ATP always caters for your types.

Start da Game
05-31-2011, 10:01 PM
Nole this, Nole that, Leading in poll is this Nole, Roger will prevail. Bank on it.

i just don't get the hype for the fedclown.......fed is going to be butchered.......he will be lucky to win a set, mark it down.......

djokovic is not playing tennis these days, he's playing "physical chess", thinking 3 shots in advance and covering the court like a freak.......

nadal is the only one that stands a significant chance to beat this ridiculous ball striking machine.......

eduggs
05-31-2011, 10:03 PM
whatever federina ever did, djokovic 2.0 does better excepting the serve and the slice.......djokovic also doesn't doubt himself anymore and that's basically curtains for whatever little hope federina had.......

the only way to beat him is by hitting through his great defense which is totally out of question for the south african.......

it will most probably be done in 4 sets.......congrats in advance to nole fans upon their player becoming the no.1 in the world.......

It's fine for you to feel this way. Personally, I've never seen anybody play better than Federer when he was in his early and mid-20s.

DrJules
05-31-2011, 10:03 PM
whatever federina ever did, djokovic 2.0 does better excepting the serve and the slice.......djokovic also doesn't doubt himself anymore and that's basically curtains for whatever little hope federina had.......

the only way to beat him is by hitting through his great defense which is totally out of question for the south african.......

it will most probably be done in 4 sets.......congrats in advance to nole fans upon their player becoming the no.1 in the world.......

Federer still has a better forehand and volleys.

His nationality is Swiss. It does not follow the nationality or religion of the mother.

SheepleBuster
05-31-2011, 10:04 PM
i just don't get the hype for the fedclown.......fed is going to be butchered.......he will be lucky to win a set, mark it down.......

djokovic is not playing tennis these days, he's playing "physical chess", thinking 3 shots in advance and covering the court like a freak.......

nadal is the only one that stands a significant chance to beat this ridiculous ball striking machine.......

:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

Start da Game
05-31-2011, 10:07 PM
I wonder if Roger tanks this match strategically. Let's face it. Roger wn't be beating Nadal in a 5 set match on clay. Novak does have the tools to spank nadal here. Why risk giving Nadal another slam in the final when you can let the good old Nole to put Nadal further in a mental crisis.

do not entertain such thoughts because only utter disappointment awaits for people thinking along those lines.......it does not matter who enters the final, he enters only to lose to the ultimate clay fighter.......

red clay, best of 5 sets, 7 hours.......take your pick now.......

Chase Visa
05-31-2011, 10:07 PM
Nole in 4. Still, Fed's been playing very good tennis here, so you never know...but if anyone's gonna beat Nole, I don't see it being Fed.

tennisace28
05-31-2011, 10:08 PM
Fed doesn't have a clue in this match, joker too strong, too consistent, too confident, too fast and basically just light-years ahead of Swiss miss at the moment. Joker in 3 straight sets. Bet your house on it.

SheepleBuster
05-31-2011, 10:09 PM
do not entertain such thoughts because only utter disappointment awaits for people thinking along those lines.......it does not matter who enters the final, he enters only to lose to the ultimate clay fighter.......

red clay, best of 5 sets, 7 hours.......take your pick now.......

I am telling you. Nadal might have to take a couple of years off after Novak puts him to sword in three straight sets. I am sure he is already looking for a long term injury excuse. Like a fake surgery or something. Heck. Isner should have beaten Nadal. Andojar should have gotten 2 sets off of him.

eduggs
05-31-2011, 10:10 PM
I wonder if Roger tanks this match strategically. Let's face it. Roger wn't be beating Nadal in a 5 set match on clay. Novak does have the tools to spank nadal here. Why risk giving Nadal another slam in the final when you can let the good old Nole to put Nadal further in a mental crisis.
I never know if people are being sarcastic.
Federer can defeat anyone, anywhere. Certainly he believes this. That Nadal has had success against Federer in close matches on clay does not mean we should assume that Federer cannot win. Afterall, if we know the outcomes, why do they play the matches. Why don't the betters make fortunes?

Players play for additional glory, not to prevent the loss of existing legacy. Federer has little to lose and plenty to gain.

SheepleBuster
05-31-2011, 10:11 PM
I never know if people are being sarcastic.
Federer can defeat anyone, anywhere. Certainly he believes this. That Nadal has had success against Federer in close matches on clay does not mean we should assume that Federer cannot win. Afterall, if we know the outcomes, why do they play the matches. Why don't the betters make fortunes?

Players play for additional glory, not to prevent the loss of existing legacy. Federer has little to lose and plenty to gain.

I am a Fed fan. So yes. I was being sarcastic. But seriously. I don't trust Roger on clay against Rafa. If Rafa loses to Sodering or something, Roger can win the whole thing though :)

Arkulari
05-31-2011, 10:11 PM
Federer still has a better forehand and volleys.

His nationality is Swiss. It does not follow the nationality or religion of the mother.

what do you expect from ignorant cricket boy? he keeps digging himself deeper holes with his lack of knowledge about everything :haha:

FerrerAndNadal
05-31-2011, 10:17 PM
i just don't get the hype for the fedclown.......fed is going to be butchered.......he will be lucky to win a set, mark it down.......

djokovic is not playing tennis these days, he's playing "physical chess", thinking 3 shots in advance and covering the court like a freak.......

nadal is the only one that stands a significant chance to beat this ridiculous ball striking machine.......

Are you kidding me. Nadal currently has very little chance. He squandered them all in IW and Miami. Fed has one of the best chances. He is a bad match up for Nole. Fed will prevail I believe. Natural talent>Manufactured product

Start da Game
05-31-2011, 10:18 PM
Federer still has a better forehand and volleys.

His nationality is Swiss. It does not follow the nationality or religion of the mother.

the forehand is shit when attacked, he's only good with mid court balls which are mostly set up with good serves and good returns.......his volleying is not as good as he makes it look.......standing upright at the net is a sign of a clown volleyer.......he goes to the net more on his own terms, which means there's an easy volley waiting.......

his low volleys are an utter joke.......djokovic at least works hard at volleying and might have already overtaken fed in that department.......

eduggs
05-31-2011, 10:19 PM
I am a Fed fan. So yes. I was being sarcastic. But seriously. I don't trust Roger on clay against Rafa. If Rafa loses to Sodering or something, Roger can win the whole thing though :)

Ok, then I agree, it would be a clever move by Federer to let Djokovic save his energy to take out Rafa and preserve his total GS disparity.

Arkulari
05-31-2011, 10:20 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha:

Nole has a much much much much better BH, a better movement at this moment, is rarely wrongfooted but his FH and volleys aren't nowhere near Roger's now much less at his peak, let's not even talk about the serve.

bornnl
05-31-2011, 10:21 PM
cmon guys off course Fedex can beat this egocentric mug..,will he do it??. i dont know it will be cos of a coin but i know that at odds 3.5 on greatest player of all time in great form i will put 500E, sit down in chair and have a good time.
go Champ smash his arrogant face

Start da Game
05-31-2011, 10:26 PM
my forehand and my volleys are invincible against my 16 year old neighbour.......

Solista
05-31-2011, 10:34 PM
Djoko in 4 ! @

SheepleBuster
05-31-2011, 10:45 PM
I have to say. The prospect of Rome semi final rematch is very intriguing to me. It will be awesome if somehow Andy found a brain on clay and reached the final

FerrerAndNadal
05-31-2011, 10:51 PM
I have to say. The prospect of Rome semi final rematch is very intriguing to me. It will be awesome if somehow Andy found a brain on clay and reached the final

Intriguing? You really want to watch Murray brainfart again. I don't

barahmasa
05-31-2011, 10:53 PM
This year in RG:
4. I dunno if you've actually watched him play this week, but his game is very mediocre right now. His big serve is MIA, his feared BH down-the-line doesn't seem to be working anymore, and worst of all, he's making TONS of UEs - very uncharacteristic.
5. perhaps the most important: after being beaten by Djoko four times in a row, among those beatings two of them on his favourite surface... don't you think that makes quite a dent in his confidence?

Anyways, I'll be happy if Rafa indeed makes it to the final, but right now... I'm not so sure, to say the least.

I've seen this before from Roger too and saw him wining Slams when he played really bad in the first rounds, that's what great players do (as much as I dislike Nadull there's no doubt he's a great player) - against lesser opponents they play just enough to win, sometimes even getting in trouble because it's hard to motivate yourself when you're playing against a guy that you know is way below you.

So I wouldn't give that much hype to Nadal's first rounds, at any level he can up his game by much, anyway he only lost two sets thus far, and Nole has never ever beaten him in a slam so as far as I'm concerned he's still the favorite for the RG crown ;)

barahmasa
05-31-2011, 10:57 PM
Yeah, surely Fed would be triple bagelled by someone who had to fight 5 sets against an average Isner... On clay...

As for a Rafa-Nole final, that would be terrible, Nadal has no weapons to hurt Djokovic...

Man, Isner has the antidote for Rafa's main (and often only) weapon - the dude is tall and has a doublehander. Ad to that the fact that he's got a monster serve and RG this year is allegedly faster and there you go ;)

You're insane if you actually think Fed wouldn't be butchered by Rafa in the final, Miami and 2008 RG final ringing any bells? :confused:

Sunset of Age
05-31-2011, 11:02 PM
So I wouldn't give that much hype to Nadal's first rounds, at any level he can up his game by much, anyway he only lost two sets thus far, and Nole has never ever beaten him in a slam so as far as I'm concerned he's still the favorite for the RG crown ;)

Well, I sure hope you're right about this! :D
I can't help but have my doubts though... and btw, it wasn't just Rafa's 1st rounds that were bad, his latest match against Ljubicic was pretty terrible as well. :scared:
But who knows, as you say, great champions often find their way to scrumble out of the scrapheap to pull out a win, never mind how bad they play. That ability is what makes them a great champion in the first place. :)

Sunset of Age
05-31-2011, 11:03 PM
You're insane if you actually think Fed wouldn't be butchered by Rafa in the final, Miami and 2008 RG final ringing any bells? :confused:

Uhm... I do not want to repeat said poster's words, but you're quite off just the same if you think that Rafa is playing as well now as he did in the tournaments you just mentioned. He isn't.

bokehlicious
05-31-2011, 11:04 PM
Man, Isner has the antidote for Rafa's main (and often only) weapon - the dude is tall and has a doublehander. Ad to that the fact that he's got a monster serve and RG this year is allegedly faster and there you go ;)

You're insane if you actually think Fed wouldn't be butchered by Rafa in the final, Miami and 2008 RG final ringing any bells? :confused:

Yeah yeah Rafa is the exact same player as in 2008... Same confidence and same game...

As for making Isner's double hander look like some ultimate deadly weapon I advise you to get off of crack for a few days...

Mr. Oracle
05-31-2011, 11:05 PM
All bias aside, when I think of this match, smothering comes to mind. Utter pillow over the face smothering. You can guess who will assume the respective positions. For the first time ever, I actually feel sorry for Fed because no champion's swan song should be defiled by such a beat down. And a beat down it will be. Joker 6-4, 6-2, 6-2

zerocool_
05-31-2011, 11:12 PM
I hope Roger can pull this out. Especially if Soderking does the biz tomorrow.

Fed v Soda/Muzz = orgasmic
Rafole = tragic

Vamos!

What is orgasmic, you know that Federer will **** both Soderling or Murray if he meet them in final..
On topic, probably Djokovic in 3 or 4. Let's try to guess final, Djokovic vs Soderling :)

Clay Death
05-31-2011, 11:15 PM
this is comical shit at best:

bunch of hapless armchair quarterbacks who have never thrown a ball in their life as they would say here in america.

a bit like legless people trying to teach running.

if you have never played the sport at a high level then why bother with this mindless, gutless analysis.

some have never picked up a racquet. that much is clear enough.

fed is going to surprise you. nobody runs over fed. nobody.

fed may have his chances. we will just have to see.

Mr. Oracle
05-31-2011, 11:18 PM
this is comical shit at best:

bunch of hapless armchair quarterbacks who have never thrown a ball in their life as they would say here in america.

a bit like legless people trying to teach running.

if you have never played the sport at a high level then why bother with this mindless, gutless analysis.

some have never picked up a racquet. that much is clear enough.

fed is going to surprise you. nobody runs over fed. nobody.

fed may have his chances. we will just have to see.

what did you do with clay death?

barahmasa
05-31-2011, 11:18 PM
Yeah yeah Rafa is the exact same player as in 2008... Same confidence and same game...

As for making Isner's double hander look like some ultimate deadly weapon I advise you to get off of crack for a few days...

Yes, and Roger's game is also at a higher level than in 2008, he is much faster these days, his net game has improved, the serve also... :rolleyes: And his confidence too, not winning a slam in almost year an a half, loosing while having matchpoints against mugs like monfils and baghdatis, being slaughtered against nadal in the last match (on HC!)... those are really confidence boosters :wavey:

And about Isner's BH, it doesn't have to be a deadly weapon - all it needs to do is to not to give Nadal very short replies like fed's BH does thus taking away from Nadal his prefered way of playing : routineing guys by shamelessly smacking balls into their BHs untill they give a weak and short reply and then finishing them of with a FH winner.

Mr. Oracle
05-31-2011, 11:19 PM
who are the trolls who voted fed in 3?

Clay Death
05-31-2011, 11:25 PM
what did you do with clay death?



what do you mean?

barahmasa
05-31-2011, 11:27 PM
Guys i just have to tell you this: I'm at work and shortly ago was making a list for the restaurant in our hotel and one thing struck me on the list of lunch packets ordered: there was one which said: gluten free! I immediatly thought- WTH, Nole is in our hotel, relaxing for the semifinal :haha:

KarlyM
05-31-2011, 11:44 PM
Nole in 5. ;)

Clay Death
05-31-2011, 11:45 PM
at least Fed is optimistic and realistic:

"It’s always nice to be in the semi-finals of a Grand Slam," said Federer. "I hoped to play well here. It was a tricky draw and I’m happy that I made my way through to the semis. I’ve never diverted from my plan of focussing on myself and I’m very happy with the way I’m playing.

"For me the plan is to try and take a step further and reach the final of the French Open. I know [Djokovic] has a lot on the line. I’m looking forward to that match. I think we usually play pretty well against each other."

Certinfy
05-31-2011, 11:48 PM
"For me the plan is to try and take a step further and reach the final of the French Open. I know [Djokovic] has a lot on the line. I’m looking forward to that match. I think we usually play pretty well against each other."[/COLOR][/I][/B]
:haha: :worship: Quite a few of their matches have been absolutely beyond awful.

«Ivan»
05-31-2011, 11:55 PM
united fedals here.pathetic

Vida
05-31-2011, 11:57 PM
fed doesnt want to play this match. nole in max 4.

«Ivan»
05-31-2011, 11:58 PM
what do you mean?

he means-you-re beyond pathetic lately.but you know that.

Blue Heart24
06-01-2011, 12:01 AM
Djokovic in 3 or 4.

Clay Death
06-01-2011, 12:12 AM
fed--who is actually out there fighting and competing--believes that he is going to have a close match but the so called the armchair quarterbacks of the lost world here at the asylym, who would not know a tennis racquet if they were hit with it in the face--are 100% certain that fed is going to get absolutely destroyed.

that is what i find so comical. of course nole is the heavy favorite and his record this year suggests that but the match still has to be played.

i think it may be closer than what is being suggested here.

i also believe that it is a game of inches and fed has been too good on the big stage. couple or 3 key points could land a set in his back pocket.

and then suddenly it becomes a little tighter contest.

we will just have to see how it pans out.


finally, i am still predicting that the clay warrior will take roland garros this year. he will just have to find a way to get it done. i am not going to bet against a 5 time champion who has never lost a final here.

Clay Death
06-01-2011, 12:19 AM
:haha: :worship: Quite a few of their matches have been absolutely beyond awful.


i dont really like fed but one has to admire his attitude here.

he said at the start of the tournament that he was going to try to get in a winning position for this tournament.

we will see if he can make it happen.


his backhand remains a massive liability. it will be interesting to see how he can manage tomorrow with that glaring liability.

Sunset of Age
06-01-2011, 12:24 AM
i dont really like fed but one has to admire his attitude here.

he said at the start of the tournament that he was going to try to get in a winning position for this tournament.

we will see if he can make it happen.

Just a question for you CD, why is it that us Fedals get trashed all the time by you and your bunch, because of being so-called 'hypocratical' whenever we feel the need to point out the honest chances of BOTH our favourites to reach the final, while you seem to feel the need to defend Fed here just the same? :confused:

Are you afraid of Rafa's chances, or what? :o

Mungo
06-01-2011, 12:25 AM
I doubt Fakerer can make it close, his game is so up-and-down against serious opponents...he got a chance to take a set but I can't see him doing better than that. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a trashing. The savage is playing much better than Fedull so if he doesn't collapse under pressure he will win fairly easy. DJOKOVIC WINS ROLAND GARROS, quote me on sunday

Time Violation
06-01-2011, 12:31 AM
Are you afraid of Rafa's chances, or what? :o

Of course he is :) They all liked Nole while he was a goofball and never really a threat, but as this year is progressing, they like him less and less :p

Clay Death
06-01-2011, 12:32 AM
fedals---at least as they exist in these chat forums-- are fraud. plain and simple.

either you like fed or you go for nadal. it has to be one or the other.

no way in hell can anybody be totally crazy about both of them. they are as different as night and day.

every single person i know in real life either likes fed or they like nadal.

Ljubo_rulz
06-01-2011, 12:34 AM
Basicly, Novak needs to win this to

- get number 1 spot
- continue his winning streak and become one of the greatest
- get to final and win the toughest GS. He will play Nadal in bad form and I doubt he'll get another chance like this.
- keep his chance for a CYGS.

So much pressure on Nole. And none on Rogie.

Clay Death
06-01-2011, 12:35 AM
Of course he is :) They all liked Nole while he was a goofball and never really a threat, but as this year is progressing, they like him less and less :p


negative.


i am actually predicting a clay warrior win in the final.

and i dont care who is across the net. it is hard for me to bet against the clay warrior in a best of 5 set final on clay at roland garros.

and i want nole in the final. nadal has to settle the matter and restore the order on clay.

Pipsy
06-01-2011, 12:35 AM
Federer's been playing some of the best tennis he's played all year in this tournament, adjusting well to the conditions and becoming the only player not yet to drop a set. That said, Djokovic is in the once-in-a-lifetime kind of form where even an on-song Roger won't phase him psychologically and physically there should be no issue given the amount of time off Djokovic has had.

Therefore, Djokovic in 4...

abraxas21
06-01-2011, 12:41 AM
united fedals here.pathetic

never thought i'd see the day :lol:

fedtards want federer to win because they like him

nadaltards want federer to win because nadal will keep his number 1 spot and also because that way nadal can have his bitch in the RG final again

MIMIC
06-01-2011, 12:42 AM
his backhand remains a massive liability. it will be interesting to see how he can manage tomorrow with that glaring liability.

I hope Djoker beats Fed's backhand so hard that he starts using a two-handed mid-match.

Ben.
06-01-2011, 12:50 AM
Djokovic in four tight ones I'd guess but Fed certainly playing well enough to win. Whoever wins though will have a big chance in the final.

FlameOn
06-01-2011, 01:10 AM
Djoker in 4. :rocker2:

Fedexpress#11
06-01-2011, 01:32 AM
I am torn for this match. If Novak was playing anyone else I would say Novak all the way. But Fed is on his game right now he knows what he wants and he is going for it. I will say Federer in 5

moon language
06-01-2011, 01:37 AM
Despite Federer's year so far I think he has the best shot of stopping the Djokovic streak of any player. Federer's the one with the necessary tools, and his tools are looking sharp at the moment. I'm just not convinced the explosive movement is (still) there to get it done.

tennismaster1978
06-01-2011, 01:37 AM
I say Fed in 4 tight sets. I believe there's more on the line for Novak and he may show some nervs in the match. Federer has nothing to lose, he's already done it all. I think this should help him and he's playing sublime tennis at the moment.

tennismaster1978
06-01-2011, 01:43 AM
Federer will be on fire, I just know it. No pressure, he will take out Dojokovic in 3 or 4 sets

Agreed! Lets go Fed!!!

Why So Serious?
06-01-2011, 01:46 AM
The Djoker in 4.

jeremda01
06-01-2011, 01:48 AM
djokovic's serve is pretty strong at the moment, i find it hard to see federer breaking and consolidating the break :)

tests
06-01-2011, 01:53 AM
Even though it would be nice to see fed stop djokers streak and get into yet another RG final.... i really pray and hope nole wins. I do not want to see a fed/nadal final again. I am in no mood for 2/20 break point chances and nadal moonballing federers backhand into space. That matchup is so pitiful... its ridiculous. Nadal could be at 50 % and fed would STIL struggle greatly against him (specially on clay).

The only way i could see djoker faltering is if TMF shows up... but i still think even with TMF, the djoker has a 50 % chance to win. If Federror shows up, novak in 3 tight sets.

eduggs
06-01-2011, 01:55 AM
this is comical shit at best:

bunch of hapless armchair quarterbacks who have never thrown a ball in their life as they would say here in america.

a bit like legless people trying to teach running.

if you have never played the sport at a high level then why bother with this mindless, gutless analysis.

some have never picked up a racquet. that much is clear enough.

fed is going to surprise you. nobody runs over fed. nobody.

fed may have his chances. we will just have to see.

It's difficult to say how serious you intend to be considering your history, but it is true that Federer has almost never been steamrolled. RG 2008 is a notable exception, and there are a few other examples, but he almost always fights to make a match competitive. Almost every other player takes a beating once in a while, even Nadal, Djokovic et al.

That being said, I think Djokovic has the game and the motivation to do it. Federer's serve, forehand combo can usually keep him in any match. But on clay against Djokovic, that might not be enough.

eduggs
06-01-2011, 01:58 AM
fed doesnt want to play this match. nole in max 4.

This is the first time in about 8 years that Federer has the chance to do something unexpected and impress people. And with very little at stake. Why wouldn't he relish that opportunity?

Lleyton_
06-01-2011, 01:58 AM
I hope Djoker beats Fed's backhand so hard that he starts using a two-handed mid-match.

Djokovic can't do half the damage Nadal does to Federer's backhand. There will be no two handers from the old man :bigwave:

tennismaster1978
06-01-2011, 02:00 AM
Federer can win, he is probably the worst matchup for Djokovic of all the top 10. I think the Monfils match can be disregarded due to the wind, both players were well below their previous level. It'll be close, but I think Federer in 4 sets.

I like your name. That's my gamertag on xbox live. American Psycho?

barahmasa
06-01-2011, 02:01 AM
I hope Djoker beats Fed's backhand so hard that he starts using a two-handed mid-match.

:devil:

Clay Death
06-01-2011, 02:05 AM
nole has this one. there is no question about that.

that siad, you also have to look at it from fed`s vantage point also. and he says the following:

1. there is a lot on the line for nole. yes fed actually said that.

2. fed said at the start of the tournament that he wanted to give himself a chance to win it. you can only do that if you are in the final. that means that he actually believes that he has a chance tomorrow.

and i think that he just might if he can snatch the first set and keep it close in the 2nd.

Forehander
06-01-2011, 02:05 AM
i voted straights to djokovic but most likely Fed will go down in 4. He's always up a break in the sets he plays against Djokovic then somehow retardedly gives it away with some immense shanking.

SerialKillerToBe
06-01-2011, 02:06 AM
Djokovic can't do half the damage Nadal does to Federer's backhand. There will be no two handers from the old man :bigwave:

If Djokovic's backhand is beating Rafa's forehand (like in the past 2 tournies), then why is Federer's backhand exempt from the beating?

icedevil0289
06-01-2011, 02:10 AM
fedals---at least as they exist in these chat forums-- are fraud. plain and simple.

either you like fed or you go for nadal. it has to be one or the other.

no way in hell can anybody be totally crazy about both of them. they are as different as night and day.

every single person i know in real life either likes fed or they like nadal.

*sigh* I'm no fedal fan, butI'm going to try and explain to you that it is possible to like both and fed and nadal, although I doubt you'll ever get it through your thick head. I'd have better luck getting a lab rat to understand.

Yes nadal and fed are different when it comes to their playing styles, but it is possible for fans to like something of one player and another thing of the other. Perhaps they like fed's playing style and admire nadal's hard work and attitude, or they like nadal's playing style and admire something else of fed's idk. It is also possible to like both playing styles imo. this is a bad example but you don't just like one genre of music do you or watch only comedy movies do you? And honestly saying they are as different as night and day is a bit of an exaggeration imo. Also fed and nadal seem to like each other so idk why it's so hard to believe that people like both.

Forehander
06-01-2011, 02:15 AM
Djokovic can't do half the damage Nadal does to Federer's backhand. There will be no two handers from the old man :bigwave:

Actually I'd say it is in 2011. Djokovic's current backhand somewhat similar to a brick wall, rarely any errors are coming from it. Nadal's forehand can to a certain degree be attacked whereas Djokovic's backhand cannot due to his sublime movement on the stretch. With Federer's gradual slowing footwork 10/10 times he'll be out rallied (due to some stupid shank) or land the ball short in a backhand-2-backhand rally to give Djokovic the chance to hit a lethal shot with the forehand. With that said I am rooting for Federer though. If Jesus mode can miraculously show up somehow he can still pull this off

Clay Death
06-01-2011, 02:19 AM
*sigh* I'm no fedal fan, butI'm going to try and explain to you that it is possible to like both and fed and nadal, although I doubt you'll ever get it through your thick head. I'd have better luck getting a lab rat to understand.

Yes nadal and fed are different when it comes to their playing styles, but it is possible for fans to like something of one player and another thing of the other. Perhaps they like fed's playing style and admire nadal's hard work and attitude, or they like nadal's playing style and admire something else of fed's idk. It is also possible to like both playing styles imo. this is a bad example but you don't just like one genre of music do you or watch only comedy movies do you? And honestly saying they are as different as night and day is a bit of an exaggeration imo. Also fed and nadal seem to like each other so idk why it's so hard to believe that people like both.


go explain it to somebody who gives a damn. you know so little and you know it so fluently.

now beat it.

Forehander
06-01-2011, 02:20 AM
*sigh* I'm no fedal fan, butI'm going to try and explain to you that it is possible to like both and fed and nadal, although I doubt you'll ever get it through your thick head. I'd have better luck getting a lab rat to understand.

Yes nadal and fed are different when it comes to their playing styles, but it is possible for fans to like something of one player and another thing of the other. Perhaps they like fed's playing style and admire nadal's hard work and attitude, or they like nadal's playing style and admire something else of fed's idk. It is also possible to like both playing styles imo. this is a bad example but you don't just like one genre of music do you or watch only comedy movies do you? And honestly saying they are as different as night and day is a bit of an exaggeration imo. Also fed and nadal seem to like each other so idk why it's so hard to believe that people like both.

Should just keep it simple if you truly like the game of tennis you'll automatically appreciate them both, but dislike Djokovic.

barahmasa
06-01-2011, 02:21 AM
i voted straights to djokovic but most likely Fed will go down in 4. He's always up a break in the sets he plays against Djokovic then somehow retardedly gives it away with some immense shanking.

Pretty much sums it up, he's always been like that with very top players that bothered him :mad:

Sunset of Age
06-01-2011, 02:22 AM
*sigh* I'm no fedal fan, butI'm going to try and explain to you that it is possible to like both and fed and nadal, although I doubt you'll ever get it through your thick head. I'd have better luck getting a lab rat to understand.

Yes nadal and fed are different when it comes to their playing styles, but it is possible for fans to like something of one player and another thing of the other. Perhaps they like fed's playing style and admire nadal's hard work and attitude, or they like nadal's playing style and admire something else of fed's idk. It is also possible to like both playing styles imo. this is a bad example but you don't just like one genre of music do you or watch only comedy movies do you? And honestly saying they are as different as night and day is a bit of an exaggeration imo. Also fed and nadal seem to like each other so idk why it's so hard to believe that people like both.

Usha, you're trying to talk sense into a Ferrous Cranus (http://www.flamewarriors.com/warriorshtm/ferouscranus.htm), who apparently thinks that being a fan of Player A means that you have to 'hate' Player B. Give it up, you're wasting your breath. :hug:

barahmasa
06-01-2011, 02:24 AM
Should just keep it simple if you truly like the game of tennis you'll automatically appreciate them both, but dislike Djokovic.

Why should one dislike Djokovic if he loves the game? :confused:

Priam
06-01-2011, 02:29 AM
I think this will be a long match, maybe 4-5 sets. Fed's variety/versatility can trouble Nole. The new balls have actually helped Roger, and his cc forehand can do a lot of damage here if it's on (confidence). What he has to avoid is the silly unforced errors and mental lapses, plus limit the shanks by 10-20%.

Djoker is in the form of his life though. Del Potro literally ran out of answers in sets 3-4.

Forehander
06-01-2011, 02:31 AM
I think this will be a long match, maybe 4-5 sets. Fed's variety/versatility can trouble Nole. The new balls have actually helped Roger, and his cc forehand can do a lot of damage here if it's on (confidence). What he has to avoid is the silly unforced errors and mental lapses, plus limit the shanks by 10-20%.

Djoker is in the form of his life though. Del Potro literally ran out of answers in sets 3-4.

His CC forehand can do damage only if he doesn't shank the next easy shot.

icedevil0289
06-01-2011, 02:36 AM
Should just keep it simple if you truly like the game of tennis you'll automatically appreciate them both, but dislike Djokovic.

lol I actually do like nole, though fed is my fav.

Sunset of Age
06-01-2011, 02:39 AM
lol I actually do like nole, though fed is my fav.

It seems so difficult to a certain number of posters to understand that one may well support more than just one player.

~BIG SIGH!~

icedevil0289
06-01-2011, 02:40 AM
go explain it to somebody who gives a damn. you know so little and you know it so fluently.

now beat it.

wtf?!! I actually tried to rationally explain it to you and you can't even give me the time of day to refute my points?!! you are so full of shit it's not even funny.

eduggs
06-01-2011, 03:06 AM
fed--who is actually out there fighting and competing--believes that he is going to have a close match but the so called the armchair quarterbacks of the lost world here at the asylym, who would not know a tennis racquet if they were hit with it in the face--are 100% certain that fed is going to get absolutely destroyed.

that is what i find so comical. of course nole is the heavy favorite and his record this year suggests that but the match still has to be played.

i think it may be closer than what is being suggested here.

i also believe that it is a game of inches and fed has been too good on the big stage. couple or 3 key points could land a set in his back pocket.

and then suddenly it becomes a little tighter contest.

we will just have to see how it pans out.


finally, i am still predicting that the clay warrior will take roland garros this year. he will just have to find a way to get it done. i am not going to bet against a 5 time champion who has never lost a final here.

This is the best post I've ever read from clay death. Reasonable in every aspect.

eduggs
06-01-2011, 03:14 AM
djokovic's serve is pretty strong at the moment, i find it hard to see federer breaking and consolidating the break :)
Yeah, and I think this is key. Djokovic has always been able to break Federer's serve a few times in most matches. He is after all an elite returner of serve. But in past years he has been vulnerable to giving up service breaks of his own. But lately his serve is not so vulnerable, and this is key, especially against Federer.

Clay Death
06-01-2011, 03:15 AM
This is the best post I've ever read from clay death. Reasonable in every aspect.


much obliged. thanks.

thank goodness there are some kind people here who actually realize that there are a few of us here are thoughtful and reasonable.

one does get tired of the envy fungus riddled little suborganisms always looking to attack and bite somebody.

what is funny is that most them have never stepped on a tennis court.

Clay Death
06-01-2011, 03:17 AM
wtf?!! I actually tried to rationally explain it to you and you can't even give me the time of day to refute my points?!! you are so full of shit it's not even funny.

you dont deserve the time of the day from me.

again, go play outside.

and stop bothering me.

careergrandslam
06-01-2011, 03:22 AM
come on roger destroy djokovic.

careergrandslam
06-01-2011, 03:24 AM
if federer beats djokovic here, fed will earn my respect as the GOAT.