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Roger can win the French Open right?

stewietennis
05-31-2011, 12:19 AM
With Rafa not playing at his usual high level on clay – ironically, is this French Open Roger's best chance at increasing his majors total? Roger only really has to defeat Novak and if Rafa maintains his average-level-play, together with what might be a tiring semi-final against Murray, the door could be open for Roger to steal this from under everyone's noses. His air of invincibility might not be there anymore and Novak is riding a tsunami of confidence but one would have to consider that Roger has been here multiple times, been the second-best clay courter in the past half decade and given his still-amazing shot-making ability – Roger is in with a chance right?

Certinfy
05-31-2011, 12:20 AM
No way is he beating Novak.

Sophocles
05-31-2011, 12:21 AM
Fed in the final is Nadal's only hope of winning this tournament.

finishingmove
05-31-2011, 12:22 AM
this is federer's ticket to #1

he's gotta win the remaining 3 slams this year

abraxas21
05-31-2011, 12:23 AM
federer forum or else merge with the WWW RG thread

Time Violation
05-31-2011, 12:25 AM
Btw, don't forget Monfils, it's not exactly a walkover :)

Super Djoker
05-31-2011, 12:26 AM
He will have to get his backhand firing to beat novak! No chance he will beat Nadal! He may not be playing well but he,s winning! When he gets goin he is guna b tough to stop

Orka_n
05-31-2011, 12:27 AM
He can, if he gets by Djokovic somehow, and if Soderling or Murray beats Nadal. :shrug: Even a sub-par Nadal will moonball Fed's BH into oblivion.

EliSter
05-31-2011, 12:32 AM
He can, if he gets by Djokovic somehow, and if Soderling or Murray beats Nadal. :shrug: Even a sub-par Nadal will moonball Fed's BH into oblivion.

This :o

rocketassist
05-31-2011, 12:34 AM
He can beat Djoker if he plays well in a best of 5. Never met in a BO5 on clay, would be an interesting contest.

Weirdly enough, he's got a better chance of beating Nole than Rafito does, who will just get schooled all the way to the Eurotunnel.

Roadmap
05-31-2011, 12:35 AM
He can, if he gets by Djokovic somehow, and if Soderling or Murray beats Nadal. :shrug: Even a sub-par Nadal will moonball Fed's BH into oblivion.

This is sadly true. However Federer doesn't have to feel guilty though. He has achieved his success through exceptional raquet ability not through unnatural athleticism. There's definitely a Wimbledon and/or US open left in his locker though. I'm certain of it.

sexybeast
05-31-2011, 12:37 AM
Federer barely can defend anymore on clay, as long as he plays opponents who cant take advantage of this he is safe, however I cant really see how he is going to beat Djokovic. I mean, his only hope is to serve like somekind of freak, stay with Djokovic in sets and take every single oppurtunity that appears on Novak's service games. He has to be extremly aggressive and still hold his UEs down and be very effective at the net to avoid long rallies.

At the moment I would give him 1 in 10 to beat Djokovic, I think Federer played an excellent match in Australia against Djokovic but sadly just didnt take the oppurtunitites that appeared in every set.

sexybeast
05-31-2011, 12:39 AM
He can, if he gets by Djokovic somehow, and if Soderling or Murray beats Nadal. :shrug: Even a sub-par Nadal will moonball Fed's BH into oblivion.

Federer has beaten subpart Nadal twice on clay, he has never faced Nadal at his current level in Roland Garros. Imagine an even more tired Nadal after having played Soderling and Murray, I think Federer has shown before he can exploit any sign of tiredness (mental or physical) from Nadal.

BigJohn
05-31-2011, 12:42 AM
Federer has beaten subpart Nadal twice on clay, he has never faced Nadal at his current level in Roland Garros. Imagine an even more tired Nadal after having played Soderling and Murray, I think Federer has shown before he can exploit any sign of tiredness (mental or physical) from Nadal.

Making sense is a rare quality in here.

Orka_n
05-31-2011, 12:44 AM
Federer has beaten subpart Nadal twice on clay, he has never faced Nadal at his current level in Roland Garros. Imagine an even more tired Nadal after having played Soderling and Murray, I think Federer has shown before he can exploit any sign of tiredness (mental or physical) from Nadal.Sorry mate, man do I wish that was true but I honestly can't see Fed beating Nadal at RG. ;) Hey, I hope I'm wrong.

rocketassist
05-31-2011, 12:44 AM
Fed's game at its best is perfect against tired players as he'll move them around and overpower them.

Nadal is not getting past Soderling and Murray (assuming he comes through) without some sort of physical punishment, as both of them know how to exploit him even if they don't always beat him.

Sunset of Age
05-31-2011, 12:50 AM
Can? Yes sure. Will? Don't make me laugh.

alfonsojose
05-31-2011, 12:53 AM
Roger wins RG if
1) Nole inavertedly tries a exotic french dish with plenty of glutten.
2) Rafa loses before F or Rafa plays at least 8 hours on his way to the final.

chenx15
05-31-2011, 12:54 AM
my feeling stays the same in this RG that Roger will win it all. And i hope it is Rafas head on a Platter. to be honest, rafa needs this more than Roger. the day Novak Loses will be the day we will see the Rafa of Old times.

shiaben
05-31-2011, 12:56 AM
I would love Federer to win it. If such a thing would happen he'd get a lightning bolt of confidence back into his body, and JesusFed might show up for the next couple of slam competitions. Too bad Djokovic won't give him that dangerous confidence back. He'll put a tight lid on it.

emotion
05-31-2011, 01:02 AM
I think Fed could beat Nadal in final. Nadal looks much, much worse than even Madrid to me. And Federer's serve is truly firing for the first time in months. Soderling can beat him, but Fed has a good chance there. Djokovic, well, it'll be in Fed's hands. Dunno if he could do it though

Roamed
05-31-2011, 01:20 AM
If Rafa loses then Djokovic-Federer (assuming he gets there) would basically become the final, and Fed's been playing well enough to make it tight if he stays in form. He couldn't afford to miss any of his chances however, and despite how well he's done that in the last couple of matches I don't see it happening. He has a chance to the extent that I can daydream about it without feeling ridiculous, but no more than that. I'm sure he'll be galvanised for Wimbledon either way.

SerialKillerToBe
05-31-2011, 01:24 AM
If Djokovic plays anywhere near the level he played in Rome final then Roger is going down in straights.

emotion
05-31-2011, 01:25 AM
^ w/ Murray, Troicki, or Chela, yes
Soderling could beat them

EliSter
05-31-2011, 01:37 AM
^ w/ Murray, Troicki, or Chela, yes
Soderling could beat them

No,i think Murray could beat Soderling quite easy,if full heath.

Orka_n
05-31-2011, 02:13 AM
No,i think Murray could beat Soderling quite easy,if full heath.Easy? On clay, playing like this? That would be a no.

MayerFan
05-31-2011, 02:18 AM
Wrong.

FedererXPress
05-31-2011, 02:38 AM
As much as I'd love it, the chances are slim. He would need some serious help from the Gods, Fate...whatever you want to call it. He's not having too much luck against Nadal or Djokovic these days...especially on clay.

Sham Kay
05-31-2011, 02:42 AM
I actually think Fed will beat Nole. And quite comfortably at that.

Fed to put to bed the epic streak.. and regain his cred.

MIMIC
05-31-2011, 03:07 AM
*clears throat*

No.

abraxas21
05-31-2011, 03:28 AM
Wrong.

simple and concize. this answer is correct.

2003
05-31-2011, 03:47 AM
What about Soderling?

If he can beat Nadal, surely he can beat Djokovic

Mr. Oracle
05-31-2011, 05:05 AM
Fed in the final is Nadal's only hope of winning this tournament.

LMAO as illogical as it sounds its true.

eduggs
05-31-2011, 05:20 AM
Of course he can.

Federer vs. Djokovic was competitive at the Australian and Indian Wells. Total points won for those tournaments was 111-119 and 82-88 respectively, in favor of Djokovic. Close matches to be sure, but Djokovic was statistically and by the "eye-test" the slightly better player. A variety of factors such as pressure, playing rhythm, weather conditions, day-form, or luck could swing the match either way, should they meet in the SF. Djokovic looks to be moving extremely well, playing with aggression and confidence, and executing with ultra-consistency. It would be hard to pick against him. But since these are not robots playing, Federer is in with a half-decent chance.

Assuming it would be Nadal in the final, Federer would likely be the underdog. However, in this match as well he obviously has a reasonable chance. Judging by the fact that every match they've ever played on clay - except for one - has been competitive... plus Nadal's recent spotty play and fatigue, you have to consider Federer a viable potential tournament winner.

Federer has the belief, the experience, less pressure than usual, and enough tennis ability left to take advantage should the favorites falter slightly.

syc23
05-31-2011, 07:57 AM
I would like to see either a Federer v Nadal or Federer v Murray final. Can't bear to see Soderling reaching another RG final and Djokovic needs stopping just to keep the season interesting as his head is getting bigger by the day.

Sophocles
05-31-2011, 10:33 AM
Federer has beaten subpart Nadal twice on clay, he has never faced Nadal at his current level in Roland Garros. Imagine an even more tired Nadal after having played Soderling and Murray, I think Federer has shown before he can exploit any sign of tiredness (mental or physical) from Nadal.

Perfectly true, but Nadal might have played himself into form by the time he gets to the final, & even if he hasn't, I've seen Federer spazz up against him at R.G. too many times to have any great confidence, & I expect Fed himself feels the same.

Corey Feldman
05-31-2011, 10:35 AM
well he's won it already hasnt he?

Super Djoker
05-31-2011, 11:15 AM
What about Soderling?

If he can beat Nadal, surely he can beat Djokovic

Nadal has lost 7 of his last 9 v Djokovic! Soderling won,t beat Nadal that was a one off fluke!

Super Djoker
05-31-2011, 11:20 AM
Yeah losing there last meeting 6-3 6-0! Anyway Nadal will beat Soderling no matter how bad he plays! I Fear!

MariaV
05-31-2011, 11:30 AM
Of course he CAN. :shrug: But whether he WILL, is another matter. ;)

Topspindoctor
05-31-2011, 11:44 AM
Of course he can.

I can also find 10 million dollars lying in the middle of the busy street tomorrow.

Then I'd buy this forum and ban Corey_Feldman.

I'd keep -Clownmero- for entertainment value. He'd be the forum jester.

Daniel
05-31-2011, 11:47 AM
Yeah of course he can...

careergrandslam
05-31-2011, 11:49 AM
of course he can.

im also banging rosa acosta and sativa rose.

dodo
05-31-2011, 11:56 AM
Federer has beaten subpart Nadal twice on clay, he has never faced Nadal at his current level in Roland Garros. Imagine an even more tired Nadal after having played Soderling and Murray, I think Federer has shown before he can exploit any sign of tiredness (mental or physical) from Nadal.
i really want this to be so. but i just know fed will find some hilariously tragic way to lose.
that said, this is probably his best chance of ever taking down rafa at RG. just the small matter of beating novak first.

Ben.
05-31-2011, 12:01 PM
Ofcourse he can. He looks in his best form since WTF and the way the tournament has panned out he seems like the second favourite to me, the real final being Fed/Djokovic if it happens. The winner of that one will get Murray or Soderling, who still need to get GS final sets on the board, or a thus far woeful Rafa who would have to pull some form out of nowhere and probably play tough matches back to back, assuming Troicki completes his choke.

dodo
05-31-2011, 12:04 PM
I think Fed could beat Nadal in final. Nadal looks much, much worse than even Madrid to me. And Federer's serve is truly firing for the first time in months. Soderling can beat him, but Fed has a good chance there. Djokovic, well, it'll be in Fed's hands. Dunno if he could do it though
it sort of makes sense, but it has been the case before, many times over. every time rafa somehow doubles his efforts while roger just completely loses his shit and brings his worst match of the season.

Angled Backhand
05-31-2011, 12:11 PM
I would so like to see Rog beat Novak but if Rafa is in the final then Rog will find a way to lose. He always has. If Rog and Novak meet in the semis (very likely) I'm going to be torn. Novak is more likely to win anyway. Rafa-Novak final could be epic if Rafa ups his game a bit.

dodo
05-31-2011, 12:20 PM
novak-rafa final would be a slaughter.

MariaV
05-31-2011, 12:24 PM
novak-rafa final would be a slaughter.

More like triple bagel based on present performances. ;)

Angled Backhand
05-31-2011, 12:25 PM
Novak: I win 6-0, 6-0, 6-0 if Rafa plays good, no?

MariaV
05-31-2011, 12:27 PM
Novak: I win 6-0, 6-0, 6-0 if Rafa plays good, no?

:lol: And Rafa not playing good at the moment. :awww:

yesh222
05-31-2011, 03:02 PM
Can Roger? Sure, he's still talented enough. Does he have anything close to a good chance? Not at the moment.

Hellraiser
05-31-2011, 04:29 PM
If he gonna beat Monfils he gonna win RG

stewietennis
05-31-2011, 11:20 PM
It's interesting that Rafa keeping Novak at the Number 2 ranking is in Roger's hands for the moment. If Roger defeats Novak, it could dent the Serb's confidence coming into the grass season where Roger can potentially gain a lot of points.

TheRafaelNadal
05-31-2011, 11:39 PM
He can beat Djoker if he plays well in a best of 5. Never met in a BO5 on clay, would be an interesting contest.

Weirdly enough, he's got a better chance of beating Nole than Rafito does, who will just get schooled all the way to the Eurotunnel.

Lol @ NAdal getting schooled on Clay. You people are riding so high on Djokers dick that it will be funny when he shoots out his last load. Djokerboy is in the form of his life but he's only done it for 1 slam and a few ATP tour evenets. Stop overhyping him until he actualy wins more majors and not the Auusiie open.

barahmasa
06-01-2011, 12:44 AM
Even a sub-par Nadal will moonball Fed's BH into oblivion.

+1

CCBH
06-01-2011, 01:14 AM
If he does, it would be his greatest win ever, especially if Novak plays well and he beats Nadal in the final. To win his least successful Slam against his biggest rival in the final, at his age, when a younger challenger is dominating the tour, would be a shining moment in his career.

sexybeast
06-01-2011, 01:15 AM
Djokovic is going to be alot more difficult than Nadal for Federer in this tournament, Djokovic looks almost unbeatable while Nadal looks just beatable. I know Federer has sometimes lost to Nadal even when Nadal hasnt looked very good like in Hamburg 2008, but in 2007 and 2009 he beat Nadal on clay so I guess when Nadal is having troubles (physical or mental) Federer could still screw things up by himself but in my book that is not a golden rule, Federer can beat this version of Nadal but he could also just gift the tournament to Nadal. That seems to me the only reasonable conclusion.

Fedexpress#11
06-01-2011, 01:29 AM
Fed is playing excellent at the moment. So is Novak this Semi final on Friday should be excellent. I think Nadal needs to bring it tomorrow Novak got into his head m

tests
06-01-2011, 01:56 AM
Djokovic is going to be alot more difficult than Nadal for Federer in this tournament, Djokovic looks almost unbeatable while Nadal looks just beatable. I know Federer has sometimes lost to Nadal even when Nadal hasnt looked very good like in Hamburg 2008, but in 2007 and 2009 he beat Nadal on clay so I guess when Nadal is having troubles (physical or mental) Federer could still screw things up by himself but in my book that is not a golden rule, Federer can beat this version of Nadal but he could also just gift the tournament to Nadal. That seems to me the only reasonable conclusion.


i COMPLETELY disagree. I would fancy fed to take down this djoker (the beast djoker) than have him take down even a 70 % nadal. I don't trust fed against nadal one bit.

The only way i see fed winning this is if he plays light out against djoker... and djokers level is not A+ throughout the whole match. If fed somehow takes out nole (and thats a HUGEEE IF), he better pray that soderling or murray can take care of nadal. If not... be ready for a straight set **** on sunday

Forehander
06-01-2011, 02:02 AM
Don't think so...

abraxas21
06-06-2011, 08:09 PM
haha no

Josh23
06-09-2011, 07:16 PM
Roger never had a chance, Djokovic is now way better than him, and Nadal has even been called "a monster" by Borg http://bets.cat/index.php/nadal-wins-roland-garros/ He even thinks Rafa is able to win two more Roland Garros. However, I'm not sure how much Nadal can do, we all know how easily he hurts his knees, hopefully he takes care of it.

stewietennis
06-09-2011, 11:08 PM
Roger never had a chance, Djokovic is now way better than him

I'm not sure about WAY better. Roger got the better of Novak in their most recent match.

LawrenceOfTennis
06-09-2011, 11:19 PM
It's time to get over this topic and thread. :haha:

ossie
06-09-2011, 11:35 PM
wrong

FormerRafaFan
06-09-2011, 11:37 PM
Give it a break Rafa fans.. the only thing worse than a sore loser is a cocky winner. Seriously, stop rubbing it in their faces. Respect Roger and his fans please. He did get to the final after all and he did win a set against Rafa on clay, and that's no easy task. Please be nice and give Fed some credit for that.