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Nadal "only the best champions play bad and win"

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
05-30-2011, 04:33 PM
arrogant much?

if federer had said this

Topspindoctor
05-30-2011, 04:34 PM
He's right :shrug:

Nadal is a legend, he should be shown respect.

emotion
05-30-2011, 04:34 PM
link plz?
i know, nadal's so humble :p it's true what he said, but he shouldn't try and pull off the humble guy image and then say this kind of thing.

hipolymer
05-30-2011, 04:35 PM
Haha, what about his last 2 matches against Djokovic where he played well and STILL lost?

Filo V.
05-30-2011, 04:36 PM
Arrogant? No. True statement. That's really what makes a champion. When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

Filo V.
05-30-2011, 04:37 PM
Haha, what about his last 2 matches against Djokovic where he played well and STILL lost?

He didn't play well, and only biased haters, which you clearly are, will say that he did.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
05-30-2011, 04:37 PM
he just said it during the press conference

anyone watching british eurosport can confirm

other gems

"some days i play as world number 1 and some days world number 30. but to be number one you have to have more days as number 1"

"there's no pressure for me to win 6 french opens"

"i've made 6 finals this year. only one man has done better"

luie
05-30-2011, 04:37 PM
Nadull's false humility has been exposed once again.

RafaFan95
05-30-2011, 04:38 PM
It`s maybe a little bit arrogant but it`s the truth.

straitup
05-30-2011, 04:38 PM
That is hardly arrogance. He's just attesting to how good the top guys are that they can play at a fraction of their level and still win slams.

paseo
05-30-2011, 04:38 PM
He's right :shrug:

Nadal is a legend, he should be shown respect.

Arrogant? No. True statement. That's really what makes a champion. When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

Yes, he's right, of course.

But, if Fed was the one saying it, you would jump on him like a famished tiger on a limping gazelle.

rocketassist
05-30-2011, 04:39 PM
That is hardly arrogance. He's just attesting to how good the top guys are that they can play at a fraction of their level and still win slams.

No, that inclines more towards competition being a load of shit than them being that good.

darkboy
05-30-2011, 04:40 PM
Arrogant? LOL

Now the truth is arrogance?

Filo V.
05-30-2011, 04:41 PM
Only trolls jump on Federer and call him arrogant when he says obviously truthful statements.

Seems like this is just a bashing troll thread.

a_boy
05-30-2011, 04:41 PM
It may be true, but it does *sound* arrogant. He won the match in three straight sets and then said he was playing badly. Indirectly, he's saying he's so much better than the opponent that he can beat him comfortably while playing badly.

If he were to come out and say directly after a victory, that he's so much better than the opponent that he's just beaten that he didn't have to play very well, it would be almost the dictionary definition of arrogant. So saying the same thing indirectly makes you sound arrogant.

But yeah, it's true.

luie
05-30-2011, 04:42 PM
No, that inclines more towards competition being a load of shit than them being that good.
Exactly if nadull were to go on & win the title playing like this,,it would reflect negative on the overall clay era.

Dougie
05-30-2011, 04:42 PM
Sounds more arrogant than he meant, probably. It´s true, the sign of a true champion is being able to win when you´re playing like shit.

solowyn
05-30-2011, 04:43 PM
Yes, he's right, of course.

But, if Fed was the one saying it, you would jump on him like a famished tiger on a limping gazelle.
:yeah: It doesn't take long for hypocrisy to leak.

I saw Nadal's Eurosport i/w with Wilander, he's quite sweet when he's being so candid.

Stefanos13
05-30-2011, 04:50 PM
he just said it during the press conference

anyone watching british eurosport can confirm

other gems

"some days i play as world number 1 and some days world number 30. but to be number one you have to have more days as number 1"

"there's no pressure for me to win 6 french opens"

"i've made 6 finals this year. only one man has done better"


I watched that. He looked so sad!

a_boy
05-30-2011, 04:56 PM
It would be a shocker if a prolific champion like Nadal (or Federer, etc), didn't deep down believe that they're better than everyone else. Despite the fact that they try to be diplomatic about it by saying they always knew the opponent was going to be tough, they're a great player, the 6-0,6-0,6-0 scoreline was closer than it suggests :p

Sometimes you get a little glimpse at how we all know they really feel. Even if Nadal was the most humble guy in existence, being number one and winning all the time is going to make him become a little arrogant eventually.

Sportsmanship often entails lying to make other people feel better. And that's also why it's a good thing to do. :)

oranges
05-30-2011, 05:00 PM
Sounds mostly like a platitude to me.

Sapeod
05-30-2011, 05:03 PM
Humble champion??? Hahahahaha! Yeah right!

finishingmove
05-30-2011, 05:05 PM
federer: "i am playing better than ever"

:shrug:

one of them is realistic and the other deluded

vn01
05-30-2011, 05:06 PM
nadal is right. that's why he and fed win so many matches, while playing bad.

it's not arrogant :shrug:

FedererXPress
05-30-2011, 05:06 PM
It's funny that the Fed-Haters can't even recognize their own hypocrisy. Of course what Nadal is saying is true, but if Federer had said it you would be crucifying him right now lol.

FedererXPress
05-30-2011, 05:11 PM
He didn't play well, and only biased haters, which you clearly are, will say that he did.

I guess I'm a "biased hater" because it looked like Djokovic just outmuscled a top form Nadal in Indian Wells and Miami. By the time Madrid rolled around Novak was in his head. Right now he owns "The King Of Clay" :devil:

GugaF1
05-30-2011, 07:34 PM
No, that inclines more towards competition being a load of shit than them being that good.

It is amazing how many glenmyrni wannabe there are in here. And they are all so predictable just like him, twitter format posts with mindless posts repeating the same sh*t over and over again.

EtymologyThis term is defined by the American Heritage Dictionary as:

"Argumentum ad nauseam or argument from repetition or argumentum ad infinitum is an argument made repeatedly (possibly by different people) until nobody cares to discuss it any more. This may sometimes, but not always, be a form of proof by assertion".

Clay Death
05-30-2011, 07:36 PM
mods:

please drag this thread outside and have a large camel piss on it instantly if not sooner.

SERBINATOR
05-30-2011, 07:58 PM
Nadal is a Two timer

his Humbleness was exposed after his defeat against Soderling in RG09 check out that Youtube interview, Cmon Nole just few more pounding to go before Nadull brings out his Real Character

Sophocles
05-30-2011, 08:11 PM
It is a horrible feature of our times that people are constantly bashed for stating the obvious in public.

TheRafaelNadal
05-30-2011, 08:12 PM
How the **** is that arrogant? He's talking past tense o nsomething that is correct and happened. If he went onto say "i can still win if i play bad" then that would be arrogant.

DrJules
05-30-2011, 08:19 PM
It is why Federer and Nadal have 25 GS between them.

They can find ways to win when playing badly against lesser ranked players.

It takes a player of the calibre of Soderling or better to exploit a weak day for either at a grand slam.

hipolymer
05-30-2011, 08:24 PM
It is why Federer and Nadal have 15 GS between them.

They can find ways to win when playing badly against lesser ranked players.

It takes a player of the calibre of Soderling or better to exploit a weak day for either at a grand slam.

All that proves is that the current era is top heavy.

green25814
05-30-2011, 08:26 PM
He's right. But its not born out of anything he or say Federer does during the match, but out of their reputation and the fear it illicits in lower ranked players. The magnitude of beating Nadal at the French Open is huge, and its very hard to play your best tennis while that knowledge sprinkles your mind.

Duncan
05-30-2011, 08:52 PM
Champions always find a way to win.

FerrerAndNadal
05-30-2011, 08:53 PM
If you want arrogant all you gotta do is google Novak Djokovic

Murray Rome: Acted like he just won a slam.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fE7kMp8ZaAc/Tc_sYbRrY5I/AAAAAAAACLs/Urr5hjhKhTw/s1600/novak%2Bdjokovic%2Bsergio%2Btacchini%2Bflame%2Bout fit%2Bdefeats%2Bandy%2Bmurray%2Brome%2Bsemi%2B2011 %2Bscreaming.jpg

your_valentine
05-30-2011, 08:59 PM
I just got this on FB from Australian Open's account: Nadal just told the press in Paris that if he doesn't win his quarterfinal at RG "I'll walk back home." Don't think he's referring to his hotel room either.

:haha:
Enjoy the walk, Rafaelito :haha:

sco
05-30-2011, 09:00 PM
Even if he's playing "badly," he still winning - still in the tournament with as good a chance as anyone to win. So what if he's not playing dominating tennis like in the years when people wondered if anybody would ever beat Nadal on clay. I remember Edberg winning one of his US Opens by playing 3 five-set matches in a row. No one cares how you won it, it's still a GS title.

your_valentine
05-30-2011, 09:00 PM
He's right :shrug:

Nadal is a legend, he should be shown respect.

Funny, yet you show no respect to the true legend - Roger Federer :wavey: People in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones :wavey:

crude oil
05-30-2011, 09:09 PM
humbalito at his best. He is the best champion. obviously. there is no doubt.

Time Violation
05-30-2011, 09:11 PM
If you want arrogant all you gotta do is google Novak Djokovic

Murray Rome: Acted like he just won a slam.

Yea, celebrations should only be allowed in Slam finals. Everything else simply doesn't deserve to be called a tennis tournament.

BK123
05-30-2011, 09:11 PM
I think it's just that English isn't his first language. Non-story.

rafa_maniac
05-30-2011, 09:15 PM
Yes, he's right, of course.

But, if Fed was the one saying it, you would jump on him like a famished tiger on a limping gazelle.

Which is what is being done to Nadal here. People need to stop playing the victim card. Everyone on this site gets the same lack of respect, it's very fair :p

Jaz
05-30-2011, 09:27 PM
He's right.

freeandlonely
05-30-2011, 10:39 PM
He said it? I love this Nadal in a flash.

stewietennis
05-30-2011, 10:49 PM
Put the statement in context of the person saying it. If the person has always waxed on about how excellent he is and how much better he is than everybody else – it can be interpreted in one way. If the person has always given his opponents due respect – it can be interpreted another way.

BigJohn
05-30-2011, 10:50 PM
All that proves is that the current era is top heavy.

It's either that or could it be that Fedal were in a class by themselves?

moon language
05-30-2011, 11:57 PM
He also said “I am not playing enough well to win this tournament" so I guess he wasn't referring to himself.

Sunset of Age
05-31-2011, 12:07 AM
Nothing wrong with what he said. It's what ALL great champions will say in his situation, and he's entirely right and justified to say what he did.
In contrary to what certain hata's seem to think, Rafa isn't that much different than Federer, or any other great champion, in this regard. :shrug:

Jaz
05-31-2011, 12:11 AM
This comment is often said about Chelsea and Manchester united in England also...

It's correct, he's getting the job done.

freeandlonely
05-31-2011, 01:26 AM
Hearing a world no.1 saying this is really a good thing. No sarcasm here.

FedererXPress
05-31-2011, 01:33 AM
If you want arrogant all you gotta do is google Novak Djokovic

Murray Rome: Acted like he just won a slam.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fE7kMp8ZaAc/Tc_sYbRrY5I/AAAAAAAACLs/Urr5hjhKhTw/s1600/novak%2Bdjokovic%2Bsergio%2Btacchini%2Bflame%2Bout fit%2Bdefeats%2Bandy%2Bmurray%2Brome%2Bsemi%2B2011 %2Bscreaming.jpg

That was a very tough match that could have gone either way and he was exhibiting some honest emotion after pulling out the victory. Sorry I don't see how that's arrogant.

Sri
05-31-2011, 02:21 AM
Cmon guys!

We know Rafito is humble boy and Federer is the arrogantz!

BigJohn
05-31-2011, 02:40 AM
Cmon Rafatards!

We know Rafito is humble boy and Federer is the arrogantz!

Fixed.

eclecticist
05-31-2011, 03:08 AM
this is just nadull admitting that his draw is cake

Audacity
05-31-2011, 04:15 AM
You're all as bad as the media to bring this up. Move on with your lives...

FlameOn
05-31-2011, 04:38 AM
Well Rafa better find some form out of nowhere for the next round 'cause Robin is better than all the opponents he's faced so far.

Mountaindewslave
05-31-2011, 05:41 AM
If you want arrogant all you gotta do is google Novak Djokovic

Murray Rome: Acted like he just won a slam.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fE7kMp8ZaAc/Tc_sYbRrY5I/AAAAAAAACLs/Urr5hjhKhTw/s1600/novak%2Bdjokovic%2Bsergio%2Btacchini%2Bflame%2Bout fit%2Bdefeats%2Bandy%2Bmurray%2Brome%2Bsemi%2B2011 %2Bscreaming.jpg

this poster is totallly right, NOvak Djokovic acts totally (I don't know if arrogant is the right word) unclassy after his victories. it's one thing ot scream a little in between points or at huge events of whatever, but he just goes on and on yelling and screaming to crowd jumping around, it's rather rude. I like Novak but he's got to tame some of the victory dances down, there's fun and quirky celebrations and then there's obnoxious over the top 'in your face' celebrations.

Mountaindewslave
05-31-2011, 05:43 AM
That was a very tough match that could have gone either way and he was exhibiting some honest emotion after pulling out the victory. Sorry I don't see how that's arrogant.

so if someone wins a hard match it's ok to start screaming to the crowd for an excessive amount of the time? There's a difference between putting your hands in your head or dropping to the ground in happiness or whatever than rawring to the audience. I'm sure you are aware to some degree of what is considering classy behavior in tennis and what is not. I like the Djoker but there are reasons why he is not particularly respected in the locker room as far as in regard to his on the court behavior

solowyn
05-31-2011, 07:15 AM
so if someone wins a hard match it's ok to start screaming to the crowd for an excessive amount of the time? There's a difference between putting your hands in your head or dropping to the ground in happiness or whatever than rawring to the audience. I'm sure you are aware to some degree of what is considering classy behavior in tennis and what is not. I like the Djoker but there are reasons why he is not particularly respected in the locker room as far as in regard to his on the court behavior
:lol: 18 year old locker room psychology guru? Awesome.

Macbrother
05-31-2011, 07:51 AM
Think we're grasping at straws here.

Nadal was pretty honest and open at the presser I felt, which is always refreshing to me.

Keep that chin up, mugboar.

Sophocles
05-31-2011, 09:24 AM
so if someone wins a hard match it's ok to start screaming to the crowd for an excessive amount of the time? There's a difference between putting your hands in your head or dropping to the ground in happiness or whatever than rawring to the audience. I'm sure you are aware to some degree of what is considering classy behavior in tennis and what is not. I like the Djoker but there are reasons why he is not particularly respected in the locker room as far as in regard to his on the court behavior

Oh just shut up.

Corey Feldman
05-31-2011, 09:28 AM
i noticed his press conf full of the doubt and talking himself down for his chances to win here

par for course for him during clay tournaments

so will his answers be when he wins his next matches "i played more aggresive today, more better, more up the court, i improved"

Vida
05-31-2011, 10:03 AM
so if he says he is playing bad, and than says that only the best champions play bad and win, are we to think that if he doesnt win he isnt the 'best champion'? nadal again managing to give 'humble' a new meaning.

Super Djoker
05-31-2011, 10:08 AM
He must be the Greatest right now then! Playing like total crap! Ljuba making too many errors Yesterday! He won,t be able to get away with playing like crap v Soderling!

Topspindoctor
05-31-2011, 11:55 AM
He must be the Greatest right now then! Playing like total crap! Ljuba making too many errors Yesterday! He won,t be able to get away with playing like crap v Soderling!

If he wins tomorrow, watch the idiots flood the thread saying: Soderling could have beaten Nadal playing at 30%, but he was at 5% so he lost.

San Rosso
05-31-2011, 12:08 PM
Djokovic: "Only the best champions don't play and win."

PiggyGotRoasted
05-31-2011, 01:23 PM
Federer "Only champions dont moonball"

MariaV
05-31-2011, 01:37 PM
Djokovic: "Only the best champions don't play and win."

Too good :worship: :bowdown: :hatoff:

Commander Data
05-31-2011, 01:43 PM
Federer: "Only the best champions have 10+ Slams"

GSMnadal
05-31-2011, 01:47 PM
And Murray apparently.

nalbyfan
05-31-2011, 01:49 PM
What about the champions who play well and lose ????

FedererXPress
06-01-2011, 04:30 AM
so if someone wins a hard match it's ok to start screaming to the crowd for an excessive amount of the time? There's a difference between putting your hands in your head or dropping to the ground in happiness or whatever than rawring to the audience. I'm sure you are aware to some degree of what is considering classy behavior in tennis and what is not. I like the Djoker but there are reasons why he is not particularly respected in the locker room as far as in regard to his on the court behavior

I'm not trying to undermine your opinion here, but I definitely disagree with it. If Novak had directed some of that "in your face" style of celebration directly at Murray then yeah, that would have been disrespectful. As it was Murray pushed him, he presented a serious challenge to his streak yet Novak found a way to get through it. After the victory I'm sure the emotion was pouring out of him and I see nothing wrong with displaying it on the court as long as he shows the proper amount of respect to his opponent.