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RG R1: Rafael Nadal passes John Isner 64 67(2) 67(2) 62 64 in +4 hours

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Dmitry Verdasco
05-24-2011, 04:01 PM
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Start da Game
05-24-2011, 04:01 PM
what a fighter! frigging spartan legend on court philippe chatrier.......one of the all time great classic first round matches......

http://therealrapgame.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/nadal-fist-pump-fo-10.jpg

Start da Game
05-24-2011, 04:01 PM
this is exactly the type of match nadal needed to overcome and restore his confidence.......watch him get better from here on.......

Pirata.
05-24-2011, 04:01 PM
:stupid:

There is nothing Spartan-like about dropping two sets, including one in which he was up a break, to an American clay mug like Isner (no offense to John)

Chris Kuerten
05-24-2011, 04:02 PM
Luckily Djokovic will relieve this clown from his number one spot soon.

docking34
05-24-2011, 04:02 PM
epic stuff. ISNER THE GOD!!

Certinfy
05-24-2011, 04:02 PM
Hand the title to Djokovic now please :D

OnyxRose
05-24-2011, 04:02 PM
Five sets against Isner...okay.

Nadull_tard
05-24-2011, 04:02 PM
Nadal for the title.

GHETTOTENNIS
05-24-2011, 04:02 PM
taken to five sets on clay by isner? hahahaha, what a joke nadal is

Andreas
05-24-2011, 04:03 PM
Nadal acting like he won the whole tournament :haha: Someone is pressed...

The Freak
05-24-2011, 04:03 PM
Fun stuff out there! Spectacular effort from John :worship:

Topspindoctor
05-24-2011, 04:03 PM
King of Clay :worship:

GhostUnholy
05-24-2011, 04:03 PM
Um... guess who's not gonna win Roland Garros?

alter ego
05-24-2011, 04:03 PM
this is exactly the type of match nadal needed to overcome and restore his confidence.......watch him get better from here on.......

:lol:

Watch him lose in r3 to his master.

ExcaliburII
05-24-2011, 04:03 PM
Sparta

Sophocles
05-24-2011, 04:03 PM
Lucky one. Just gets the upset.

No way this clown is winning another R.G.

solowyn
05-24-2011, 04:03 PM
Dreadful.
Kudos to Isner for his spirit right to the end though.

Orka_n
05-24-2011, 04:03 PM
HAHAHAHA SdG making a complete fool of himself as usual. Nadal was playing like a clown today and just managed to pull it out against ISNER on clay! :haha: :haha:

rocketassist
05-24-2011, 04:03 PM
Blah.

Good effort by John. Someone better at putting short balls away would have sent the champ to London there and then.

azinna
05-24-2011, 04:03 PM
Isner was always going to be a test at some level, given his serve, solid often potent groundstrokes, and ability to dig in. He did good, but to be honest he was always more of a barometer than a challenge for Rafa.

Meanwhile: lots of tension in the arms and head of the Spaniard. Things eased a bit in the 4th set, and we got to see enough of the player who won a few titles here. Remains to be seen whether that one shows up for 6 consecutive matches.

your_valentine
05-24-2011, 04:03 PM
Epic mugfest from Nadulla :haha::haha::haha: Too bad he won though. Would have made my day :haha:

shadows
05-24-2011, 04:03 PM
lol needing 5 sets to take out all-serve Isner. Some of the ugliest tennis knowm to man out there today

Garson007
05-24-2011, 04:03 PM
Let's do this Kolya. :sport:

rofe
05-24-2011, 04:04 PM
Rafatards bring up Nadal's "spartan" cred against a clay court mug like Isner. :superlol:

siffleanimaux
05-24-2011, 04:04 PM
Amazing. Better luck next time Isner, and nice job for staying mentally strong, Nadal. :yeah:

Nadull_tard
05-24-2011, 04:04 PM
I wonder many games will he win against Kolya.

orangehat
05-24-2011, 04:04 PM
what are you guys talking about.

nadal best of all time goat on clay was just jealous of mahut and wanted to get in a marathon with isner :lol:

NID he will win the whole tournament :angel:

Armless
05-24-2011, 04:04 PM
Great showing John, utter respect for you :yeah:
As for Nadal, confidence booster for the whole tournament. Great RG so far :)

Lopez
05-24-2011, 04:04 PM
Isner fought really hard but as soon as Nadal found his groove on the passing shots, he was outplayed.

Great effort from Johnny boy :yeah:. Nadal will surely need to improve.

FiBeR
05-24-2011, 04:04 PM
:worship: to both

buzz
05-24-2011, 04:04 PM
Isner:yeah:

Nadal:confused:, But good mentality and sportsmanship

misty1
05-24-2011, 04:04 PM
im sure that was pretty damn scary for nadal there for a while

tnosugar
05-24-2011, 04:05 PM
looks like players and their coaches have been watching the footage from the four master's finals. evidently the same tactics employed. Rafa is will have to start tweaking his game fast (as that very good video in a previous post suggested)

FelipeMIA89
05-24-2011, 04:05 PM
Spartan-like!? The king of clay loosing two sets to Isner on clay is simply embarrassing. No offense to John Isner but this is Nadal were talking about. Scary form from Nadal today.

mickymouse
05-24-2011, 04:05 PM
Got to say Nadal looks beatable....very beatable indeed.

Kip
05-24-2011, 04:05 PM
lol needing 5 sets to take out all-serve Isner. Some of the ugliest tennis knowm to man out there today

Please!

John Isner showed today he is much more than just a serve!

Much respect John! :rocker:

Sophocles
05-24-2011, 04:05 PM
Blah.

Good effort by John. Someone better at putting short balls away would have sent the champ to London there and then.

Yeah. Real shame he didn't have Denko in Round 1.

straitup
05-24-2011, 04:05 PM
Great play by John, Rafa was subpar (and doesn't look like he'll win it all but who knows?). John used his great TB skills but he was always going to have a tough time in the 5th set when he had to break serve because he struggled in rallies (expected).

Hope this pushes John towards a great Wimbledon and good rest of the year :worship:

Nadal's got an easier test next round

Topspindoctor
05-24-2011, 04:05 PM
100% sure Nadal will win RG now...

Acer
05-24-2011, 04:05 PM
Actual LOL :lol:

siddy
05-24-2011, 04:06 PM
this is exactly the type of match nadal needed to overcome and restore his confidence.......watch him get better from here on.......

I dunno... this wasn't a "fightback" or anything, just a terrible performance where he was taken to five sets by.... Isner???

To me, it seems ominous, kinda like that Roger/Tipsy match from AO 2008 where the chinks in the armor were exposed. I had Rafa down as my prediction but I'm in two minds now. Hopefully the next match against Andujar will be easy.

The Magician
05-24-2011, 04:06 PM
Unbelievable fight from John. His game was too limited at the end there but it was all heart that won him those 2 sets, especially the 3rd set :worship: Nadull is done, anyone with a solid backhand would have eaten Nadull alive.

Nadulltards, say goodbye to the FO trophy followed by the Wimbledon trophy and the USO :wavey:

freeandlonely
05-24-2011, 04:06 PM
Isn'tner isn't good enough, isn't it?

doomsday
05-24-2011, 04:06 PM
There is no way Nadal is going to beat Djokovic. But it's a good thing of course.

UsD.AnDreS
05-24-2011, 04:06 PM
Thank you, John.
Watching 3rd set of this match and 2nd set of Sod-Harrison match was a moment of magic for me, as I think it was for a lot of people usually rooting for underdogs.

Having said that, Nadal was exceptionally shit.

SheepleBuster
05-24-2011, 04:07 PM
what a fighter! frigging spartan legend on court philippe chatrier.......one of the all time great classic first round matches......

http://therealrapgame.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/nadal-fist-pump-fo-10.jpg

And that is why Novak Djokovic will lift the title next week. Sorry. Spartan or not, Rafa is toast. This was freaking John Isner not Bjorn Borg

Tennislover23
05-24-2011, 04:07 PM
As much as I love Rafa, I'm just gutted for john. If only he was a little more fit. He was the better player for quite a while out there.

Rafa was both physically and mentally stronger in the end.

jeremda01
05-24-2011, 04:07 PM
bad luck john, but good fight nadal.

Ouragan
05-24-2011, 04:07 PM
Oldal

TennisOnWood
05-24-2011, 04:08 PM
Where on Earth your backhand is gone Rafa.. many WTA players hits it better then you

The Magician
05-24-2011, 04:08 PM
100% sure Nadal will win RG now...

:haha: yeah cause his game was so on today, and his mental toughness really shone through in the tiebreaks :help: There's a difference between faith in your man and delusion :wavey:

philosophicalarf
05-24-2011, 04:08 PM
1bp for isner all match. He took it.

Two tiebreaks vs Nadal, at Roland Garros. Won both.


Clutchner is back. He's been a bit awol since last Wimbledon.

Acer
05-24-2011, 04:09 PM
what a fighter! frigging spartan legend on court philippe chatrier.......one of the all time great classic first round matches......


Spartan? :lol:

I'll tell you what that was mate, that was Nadal mugging it out against someone who sucks on clay at Roland Garros. That's the equivalent of Federer's five setter against Falla at Wimbledon. At least Federer waited to be in FULL decline mode to have that match :lol:

GhostUnholy
05-24-2011, 04:09 PM
It's kind of interesting, Nadals level on clay is nowhere close to where it was in past seasons. His movement is average right now and that really takes away one of his biggest weapons

ssin
05-24-2011, 04:09 PM
pity I didn't get to see the entire match. I found myself rooting for John at times (he is likable character - too nice maybe?) but on the other hand I think it would suck if Rafa lost in R1. come on.

Respect to Isner ;)

tae04
05-24-2011, 04:09 PM
Mmmmm. I hope Isner was serving out of his mind for that scoreline.

Azurebi
05-24-2011, 04:09 PM
Rafa :hatoff:

John :kiss:

Topspindoctor
05-24-2011, 04:10 PM
:haha: yeah cause his game was so on today, and his mental toughness really shone through in the tiebreaks :help: There's a difference between faith in your man and delusion :wavey:

He'll win. Trust me. Coming back from 2 sets down took some guts. He will not lose another set in the tournament.

Garson007
05-24-2011, 04:10 PM
Nadal mentally broken. :D

Shirogane
05-24-2011, 04:10 PM
I'm really proud of you, John. :yeah:

yuri27
05-24-2011, 04:10 PM
Unbelievable fight from John. His game was too limited at the end there but it was all heart that won him those 2 sets, especially the 3rd set :worship: Nadull is done, anyone with a solid backhand would have eaten Nadull alive.

Nadulltards, say goodbye to the FO trophy followed by the Wimbledon trophy and the USO :wavey:

Even a guy who is 0-9 against him?:wavey:

green25814
05-24-2011, 04:11 PM
Great match to watch. I missed the first set but Isner played the claycourt tennis of his life for the 2nd and 3rd, while Nadal was poor, with plenty of errors and short groundstrokes. The pressure really got to him in the TB.

Credit to Nadal though, he raised his game excellently, there wasn't much Isner could do in sets 4 and the first half of 5. Things got close again near the end, but Nadal pulled through.

He'll be on a high now IMO, but his game is definitely not all there, and hasn't been for a while.

SheepleBuster
05-24-2011, 04:11 PM
I wish John cared about all his matches like this. He should be playing much better. He is much better than Karlovic. Give him his due

KoOlMaNsEaN
05-24-2011, 04:11 PM
:awww:

Isner just ran out of gas in the 4th and 5th sets :(
Weird to say after his Wimbledon match :lol:



Nadal-Soderling QF is looking even more promising after this match :bigclap:

Garson007
05-24-2011, 04:11 PM
He'll win. Trust me. Coming back from 2 sets down took some guts. He will not lose another set in the tournament.
he wasn't two sets down. :wavey:

superslam77
05-24-2011, 04:12 PM
He'll win. Trust me. Coming back from 2 sets down took some guts. He will not lose another set in the tournament.

he lost 9 sets this clay season and won't lose another set :rolleyes: ? let's bet 800 dollars?

in 5 sets to an american only serve :eek:

JayR
05-24-2011, 04:12 PM
Who'd've thought John Isner would be the player to keep the 5 times champion on court for 4+ hours and 5 sets.

Start da Game
05-24-2011, 04:12 PM
:stupid:

There is nothing Spartan-like about dropping two sets, including one in which he was up a break, to an American clay mug like Isner (no offense to John)

you and those pissed off clowns have zero understanding about nadal and his game.......

it was not about the opponent, neither about the surface......nadal was battling himself out there.......

he needed to be shaken, he needed to be shaken and reminded about his dreadful game at the moment for it to get better from here on.......

he was rattled just in time at the beginning of the tournament.......it had to happen for him to take this title.......watch him claw back to his sheer best from here on.......

GhostUnholy
05-24-2011, 04:12 PM
He'll win. Trust me. Coming back from 2 sets down took some guts. He will not lose another set in the tournament.

The way he played today there are a few guys in his draw who can beat him. If this encourages him to step it up, you might be right. But the fact that he hasn't been able to already do so in response to his last two losses is concerning

Garson007
05-24-2011, 04:13 PM
Nadal-Soderling QF is looking even more promising after this match :bigclap:
Try Davydenko. :D

Kip
05-24-2011, 04:13 PM
Mmmmm. I hope Isner was serving out of his mind for that scoreline.

:lol:

Had he been he may have well won this match. ;)

l_mac
05-24-2011, 04:13 PM
:facepalm:

I seriously need to find another player to fangirl.

Topspin Forehand
05-24-2011, 04:13 PM
Great match from Isner. His serve is incredible and his return of serve had its moments. Way better from the ground than I expected. Nadal can't play tentative against Isner's ground game and net game.

tyruk14
05-24-2011, 04:13 PM
Don't see Nadal winning this; then again he had a tough first week en route to his second SW19 title last year, so he could still pull it out.

And by the way, I would fucking ruin Emma Watson.

Corswandt
05-24-2011, 04:14 PM
Nadal acting like he won the whole tournament :haha:

As usual.

Nadal used to get these BS wins due entirely to best-of-five at Wimbledon only. Watch his pull this kind of shit at every Slam from now on.

castle007
05-24-2011, 04:14 PM
Very close match!

full credit goes to Isner for being such a fighter until the very last point..... Anywyas, Nadal needs to step up his game if he wants to defend his title. He didn't look very convincing out there until late in the fourth set and forward.

Super Djoker
05-24-2011, 04:14 PM
He'll win. Trust me. Coming back from 2 sets down took some guts. He will not lose another set in the tournament.

Soderling in waiting! wouldent be surprised if lightening strikes twice!

ExcaliburII
05-24-2011, 04:14 PM
:facepalm:

I seriously need to find another player to fangirl.

Djokovic could be just perfect for you

iriraz
05-24-2011, 04:14 PM
Back in the day when Kuerten won RG titles he had plenty of 5 setters throughout the tournament.As long as u win these 5 setters u can still win the tournament.Look at Federer in 09,he had a couple of 5 setters too.

juan27
05-24-2011, 04:14 PM
Even a guy who is 0-9 against him?:wavey:

it was a miracle that isner won 2 sets in clay with nadal!!!

and jhon gifted a doble fault in 4ºset and thats was the most important factor.

jhon and his physicall couldn`t more that this.

thss players can scared but never fininsh with the victory

Acer
05-24-2011, 04:15 PM
he needed to be shaken, he needed to be shaken and reminded about his dreadful game at the moment for it to get better from here on.......

I thought Djokovic had already done the shaking. Not once, not twice, not thrice, but FOUR times :lol:

Garson007
05-24-2011, 04:15 PM
you and those pissed off clowns have zero understanding about nadal and his game.......

it was not about the opponent, neither about the surface......nadal was battling himself out there.......

he needed to be shaken, he needed to be shaken and reminded about his dreadful game at the moment for it to get better from here on.......

he was rattled just in time at the beginning of the tournament.......it had to happen for him to take this title.......watch him claw back to his sheer best from here on.......
:spit: Losing four times in a row to Djokovic is not enough?

doooma6816
05-24-2011, 04:15 PM
True champion!:worship:....Lol at people who thinks Rafa played very bad...He won all his service game comfortably except one...and played well...just look at the stats...0 UE's in 4th set:lol:...50/27 W/UEs ratio. It was obvious that Isner had advantage in tiebreaks because of his serve.

Congrats Rafa! Now he should play quick matches.

Jaz
05-24-2011, 04:15 PM
Nadal really struggled.

Shocking performance.

Corey Feldman
05-24-2011, 04:15 PM
KneeDal actually lucky it somehow wasnt 5 hours as it should be in any 5 set clay match for him

but the 4 hours will do :sport:

i am disgusted with the mods, mine was the first legit thread which was submitted after the final ball was struck and the scores ticked in the roland garros site.......

i am utterly put off with this merge.......one of the worst moderating acts ever on MTF.......well Shut up and piss off then, nobody cares

Tennis Fool
05-24-2011, 04:15 PM
What was that? I took a nap when Nadal was up a set and a break, and thought he'd win in three. Woke up to find the score one-all in the 5th :eek:

I'd imagine Isner getting death threats if he won that match :tape: :o

Sham Kay
05-24-2011, 04:16 PM
you and those pissed off clowns have zero understanding about nadal and his game.......

it was not about the opponent, neither about the surface......nadal was battling himself out there.......

he needed to be shaken, he needed to be shaken and reminded about his dreadful game at the moment for it to get better from here on.......

he was rattled just in time at the beginning of the tournament.......it had to happen for him to take this title.......watch him claw back to his sheer best from here on.......
So.. basically you're competing with Nadal to see who fails more?

CyBorg
05-24-2011, 04:16 PM
this is exactly the type of match nadal needed to overcome and restore his confidence.......watch him get better from here on.......

http://climatesecurity.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/nilebasin.gif

Azurebi
05-24-2011, 04:16 PM
Rafa wasn't fantastic.
Rafa outplayed Isner and fitter than him in the end, but I think Rafa seems a bit tired and
not really powerful and sharp he has been. I'm worrying Rafa for upcoming week...

GhostUnholy
05-24-2011, 04:16 PM
:spit: Losing four times in a row to Djokovic is not enough?

Yeah, this. It'd be different if his issues were just mental but there's tangible physical deficiencies in his game right now

green25814
05-24-2011, 04:16 PM
i am disgusted with the mods, mine was the first legit thread which was submitted after the final ball was struck and the scores ticked in the roland garros site.......

i am utterly put off with this merge.......one of the worst moderating acts ever on MTF.......

Stop whining you fucking fanboy.

Topspindoctor
05-24-2011, 04:16 PM
:haha: People thinking Bald Clown will actually beat Nadal on clay :haha:

Sorry guys, this is world #1, can't fix matches against him :haha:

NadalPhan
05-24-2011, 04:17 PM
Lucky one. Just gets the upset.

No way this clown is winning another R.G.

If you say so. He went 5 sets, so this must mean there's not chance he's winning another R.G.

Corey Feldman
05-24-2011, 04:18 PM
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/44/umnoc.gif
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pWyapNrs3yQ/S7alpNS_2eI/AAAAAAAAAlQ/wIKV0YmKQBk/s400/pedobear.gif

GSMnadal
05-24-2011, 04:18 PM
Isner is the only type of player that can worry Nadal (and Djokovic obv.), so getting past him should clear the path to the final for him. Heroic match from both men, Nadal was poor in set 2, in set 3 he was the better player, set 4 and 5 were good stuff. 0 errors in the 4th set from Rafa.

Who will he face in R2?

Nole fan
05-24-2011, 04:18 PM
Nadal will make the final as usual. :zzz:

Start da Game
05-24-2011, 04:19 PM
:spit: Losing four times in a row to Djokovic is not enough?

losing to djokovic can easily disguise him off into thinking that his problems are against djokovic ONLY.......

he needed this battle against a different opponent to be reminded of where his game exactly is.......he will work his way from here on and you will watch him take the title.......

what a mental struggle, it was so easy to let up after losing those two tie breaker sets.......

cutesteve22
05-24-2011, 04:20 PM
needed five sets to pass Isner, so pathetic

l_mac
05-24-2011, 04:20 PM
Djokovic could be just perfect for you
Too ugly.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pWyapNrs3yQ/S7alpNS_2eI/AAAAAAAAAlQ/wIKV0YmKQBk/s400/pedobear.gif

:haha:

timafi
05-24-2011, 04:20 PM
damn you Isner;ya should have taken the trash out:mad:

Topspindoctor
05-24-2011, 04:20 PM
Nadal is not losing to anyone from this point on. You can quote this post later.

chenx15
05-24-2011, 04:21 PM
i have to agree with the nadal tards here. Isner is the type of player that usually kick rafa's butt. and Rafa needed this one badly a touhg win is always rewarding mentally. but we will see, how this will affect the confidence of other players

SheepleBuster
05-24-2011, 04:21 PM
The bigger news is freaking Harrison got a set of Soderling on clay. Rafa will bagel him.

Orka_n
05-24-2011, 04:22 PM
you and those pissed off clowns have zero understanding about nadal and his game.......

it was not about the opponent, neither about the surface......nadal was battling himself out there.......

he needed to be shaken, he needed to be shaken and reminded about his dreadful game at the moment for it to get better from here on.......

he was rattled just in time at the beginning of the tournament.......it had to happen for him to take this title.......watch him claw back to his sheer best from here on.......This is hilarious. I don't think it is even possible to get more deluded that this. Incredible stuff.

green25814
05-24-2011, 04:22 PM
Look guys, you are going on and on about mental fortitude and confidence and mindgames blah blah blah, and I'm sure Rafa will now be on a high but the reason why he struggled in this match (and this clay season) is because his game has been POOR. Any number of players could potentially challenge him, never mind Djokivic.

CCBH
05-24-2011, 04:22 PM
Oh boy... will this guy ever remind himself he is a 5-time champion on this freaking court???? At least he ground it out. Isner did pick up a lot of confidence after that 2nd set, and if not for the tired break at the start if the 5th, this could have been way worse given Rafa's tentative play. So many passes missed, allowing Isner to hit drop volley after drop volley...

MaxPower
05-24-2011, 04:23 PM
In reality Isner needed either the first or the fourth set. Once it went to five it was pretty much over because of no TB and long set. Heroic performance anyway. Nadals performance? not going to scare his next round opponent

Nole fan
05-24-2011, 04:23 PM
Nadal will play like a beast from now on. Typical of him.

Sophocles
05-24-2011, 04:24 PM
And still whining about which thread was created first, Start da Fail is on a roll here :rolls: :lol:

His sanity is crumbling faster than Nadal's game.

NJ88
05-24-2011, 04:24 PM
Was quite a shocking match.

Nadal clearly isn't playing as well as he has been doing. Before this match I thought it would be a straight forward three setter for him as he's usually one of the best returners in the game and Isner isn't much of a mover. But he wasn't getting many of them back, and to credit Isner, his play was perfect for the first three sets. His volleys were fantastic and his serving was incredible. Still thought Nadal could have done more though.

Main thing for Nadal and his fans is that he got through, he wasn't very convincing, but he has a day to rest and prepare for the next round. Playing like this though, a semi between him and Murray could be pretty interesting.

Elaka Farmor
05-24-2011, 04:25 PM
King of Clay :worship:

Yeah, his total dominance is scary .....

evilmindbulgaria
05-24-2011, 04:25 PM
What a fighter! Congratulations, Rafa, 15:3 in matches that go to a fifth set :worship:

And to all the pathetic haters drooling earlier when Isner was leading 2:1 sets - buahahaaaaaa, go back home and cry to your mothers AGAIN, losers!:wavey:

Modetopia
05-24-2011, 04:25 PM
LOL @ open gif...
ND about it Djokovic is in his head.

missvarsha
05-24-2011, 04:26 PM
Oh just give him the damned trophy already.

juan27
05-24-2011, 04:26 PM
losing to djokovic can easily disguise him off into thinking that his problems are against djokovic ONLY.......

he needed this battle against a different opponent to be reminded of where his game exactly is.......he will work his way from here on and you will watch him take the title.......

what a mental struggle, it was so easy to let up after losing those two tie breaker sets.......

if the opponent gift the break with double fault.....and need five sets to defeat iner in clay jajajaja.

start da fail pathetic nadull fan boy.

Sophocles
05-24-2011, 04:26 PM
What a fighter! Congratulations, Rafa, 15:3 in matches that go to a fifth set :worship:

And to all the pathetic haters drooling earlier when Isner was leading 2:1 sets - buahahaaaaaa, go back home and cry to your mothers AGAIN, losers!:wavey:

It's okay, we'll stick around to comfort you when Davydenko blows Kneedal off the court in Round 3.

thedesertsun
05-24-2011, 04:27 PM
What happened after the third set?
Isner scared of himself that he can win this or what?

Love upsets... should've been an upset today... one of the biggest in the whole open era.. MTF would've collapsed, shame he won it in the end... :lol:

AnnaK_4ever
05-24-2011, 04:28 PM
Spectacular match, far more entertaining than those yawnfests Nadal and Djokovic have been producing this season. :yeah:

I think Isner's tactics of not going for too much, playing it safe even from the midcourt and using dropshots (some of them were quite simply fabulous) rather than drive or convetional volleys when venturing to the net was kind of surprising to Nadal. He needed a lot of time to adjust to such a "soft" play and force himself to add some weight and pace to his own shots and serve. Once he did it the outcome was never in doubt. His backhand, though, still requires a lot of work -- he made way too many "easy" errors trying to pass Isner from that side.

Anyway, bravo to John for his nothing-short-of-admirable efforts and kudos to Rafa for toughing out the win.

P.S.
Mighty play by Isner at both tiebreaks, particularly the second one -- huge serving, brave volleying and a couple of top class returns. But I don't think he was capable to play that way throughout the whole match without making a gazillion UEs, hence his inintial choice of tactics.

P.P.S.
I totally love Nadal's hair :hearts:

Garson007
05-24-2011, 04:28 PM
Love upsets... should've been an upset today... one of the biggest in the whole open era.. MTF would've collapsed, shame he won it in the end... :lol:
It would have been hilarious.

henke007
05-24-2011, 04:29 PM
4 hours already, damn Rafa......

Isner was clutch in the breakers awesome stuff. To bad he got tired..

SheepleBuster
05-24-2011, 04:29 PM
I have to tell you, as Nadal gets older and starts losing to mugs, I will enjoy this very much. It is always nice seeing Uncle Tony pretending like he can actually coach and hit a backhand. I tell you. Rafa would be Rafa w/w-out Uncle Tony. He just has that "it' thing and no. I don't mean that "it" thing.

superslam77
05-24-2011, 04:29 PM
Nadal is not losing to anyone from this point on. You can quote this post later.

I see you already upgrated from set to match when it was time to be a man eh?

evilmindbulgaria
05-24-2011, 04:30 PM
It's okay, we'll stick around to comfort you when Davydenko blows Kneedal off the court in Round 3.

Sure, just don't go MIA when Nadal wins in 3 :devil: I pity you, waiting on Nadal to lose just because Federer is getting his a** handed to him before SF and F nowadays...

Corey Feldman
05-24-2011, 04:30 PM
Nadal will make the final as usual. :zzz:yay!
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ1g3I--_wusE7ZwDkKrMeISELE1HB3wp8OXzPdavijEKDfzkDVuQ&t=1

but let me rephrase for you - Nadal will win roland garros as usual.

Start da Game
05-24-2011, 04:30 PM
His sanity is crumbling faster than Nadal's game.

show your face on the 5th of june, you annoyed little rafa hater.......curious to see you rafa hating clowns' faces at this moment.......i know it will be so painful if nadal goes on to take the title from here on, after trailing by 2 sets to 1 in the first round....... :haha:

bokehlicious
05-24-2011, 04:32 PM
Nadal will make the final as usual. :zzz:

When he makes it he wins ;)

RafaFan95
05-24-2011, 04:33 PM
Never thought it could be tough like that for Rafa.
Hopefully he destroys his opponents now in the next games.

Garson007
05-24-2011, 04:34 PM
Best clay season ever.
:yeah: Couldn't have said it better. We were all expecting a dull one.

MayerFan
05-24-2011, 04:37 PM
More and more I'm appalled at how classless Nadal is. :o

Good effort by Isner - exposed Nadal's lack of many tennis fundamentals, especially the return of serve.

tennizen
05-24-2011, 04:37 PM
yay!
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ1g3I--_wusE7ZwDkKrMeISELE1HB3wp8OXzPdavijEKDfzkDVuQ&t=1

but let me rephrase for you - Nadal will win roland garros as usual.

:rolls:

MayerFan
05-24-2011, 04:38 PM
This is like a total meltdown for both Nadal and his tards :lol:

Best clay season ever.

With all due respect, I don't think you've watched a single clay match before 2005.

Sonja1989
05-24-2011, 04:40 PM
Nadal didn't need this two tie-break losses... :awww: But Isner played really well.

Play better in next matches, Rafa!!!

Sophocles
05-24-2011, 04:41 PM
SDG trying to distract attention from Nadal's precipitous decline.

Lleyton_
05-24-2011, 04:42 PM
Nadal is done.

MayerFan
05-24-2011, 04:42 PM
yay!
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ1g3I--_wusE7ZwDkKrMeISELE1HB3wp8OXzPdavijEKDfzkDVuQ&t=1

but let me rephrase for you - Nadal will win roland garros as usual.

Wow, Pedobear's INDAHOUSE!

AndyNonomous
05-24-2011, 04:44 PM
the forum rules say you can't create the thread until the final point is over, but this pathetic fail thread merging shit happens every time much to the annoyance of genuine fans of the player.......

if that's what it's gonna be like, i will start the threads before the final game of the match and edit the score after it's finished.......they always let nadal haters start nadal victory threads.......fucking ridiculous nonsense.......


Did you know that the male of the human species matures intellectually, and emotionally, more slowly than do females ?

Acer
05-24-2011, 04:45 PM
With all due respect, I don't think you've watched a single clay match before 2005.

Ummm...? Yeh, ok.

Mungo
05-24-2011, 04:45 PM
Nadal saved tennis, it would have been a disaster for the game if serve machine Isner would have won today on this fraud of clay. Good result for the game on this pitiful surface with pitiful tennis balls.

CCBH
05-24-2011, 04:46 PM
Nice to see those repeating 'Nadal is done', 'Nadal is declining' actually believe (or pray) that saying it enough times will make it true.

GSMnadal
05-24-2011, 04:47 PM
"He was just too good," a distraught Isner said. "He is the best in the world."

Corey Feldman
05-24-2011, 04:47 PM
Isner 14-4 in the the tie breaks :lol:

Xristos
05-24-2011, 04:49 PM
What a match!

Roadmap
05-24-2011, 04:50 PM
I was hoping Isner would save tennis but alas, the good guys don't always win in real life.

Sophocles
05-24-2011, 04:51 PM
This from the BBC web-site:

Jon courtside on Lenglen, via text 81111: "Interesting crowd reaction from Lenglen when the Nadal result was shown on our scoreboard. First there was a cheer, followed by a long jeer. Opinion on Rafa seems very divided."

Good to see the French continuing to display their impeccable taste in tennis.

Pirata.
05-24-2011, 04:53 PM
I'm starting to think Start da Game may be senile. Not even other Nadaltards believe his garbage.

Prime candidate for the top seed in ACC if he keeps this up.

Polikarpov
05-24-2011, 04:54 PM
Nadull fist pumping on one of Isner's double faults. :hysteric:

Foxy
05-24-2011, 04:54 PM
Probably the last 2 sets he loses this RG. Bamos, Rafa! Go, Rog!

Lleyton_
05-24-2011, 04:55 PM
Isner was the favorite today. RG crowd wants Nadal out of their tournament. They are sick of him :wavey:

JayR
05-24-2011, 05:04 PM
Did you know that the male of the human species matures intellectually, and emotionally, more slowly than do females ?

Don't hold your breath waiting for it to ever happen in this case.

delpiero7
05-24-2011, 05:04 PM
All that I have gathered from this thread is that Corey Feldman seems to have a rather unhealthy obsession with Paedobear. Not quite as much as my obsession with Emma Watson though.

Ilovetheblues_86
05-24-2011, 05:12 PM
:no:

ImmzB
05-24-2011, 05:15 PM
Vamos Rafa!! :yeah:

Start da Game
05-24-2011, 05:17 PM
All that I have gathered from this thread is that Corey Feldman seems to have a rather unhealthy obsession with Paedobear. Not quite as much as my obsession with Emma Watson though.

:haha:

Corswandt
05-24-2011, 05:19 PM
Isner was the favorite today. RG crowd wants Nadal out of their tournament. They are sick of him :wavey:

Who isn't?

Eden
05-24-2011, 05:19 PM
More and more I'm appalled at how classless Nadal is. :o


What did he do?

I couldn't believe it when I read at work that Rafa would go into a 5th set against Isner on clay but it was no surprise to find out when I came home that he won the match.

I don't think this match will have any impact on Rafa's chances at RG. Just remember that he needed 5 sets against Haase and Petzschner at Wimbledon last year.

All the predictions that he won't make it to the final in Paris are as exaggerated as the ones that he won't lose any more sets during the tournament.

It's natural that a player struggles during a GS tournament - it would have been unreal to expect Rafa to win RG for the next years without losing any sets... ;)

We will see in the next rounds whether it was good for him to get tested already early in the tournament.

:hatoff: to John for his performance today.

Farenhajt
05-24-2011, 05:22 PM
I simply have to commemorate this epic encounter by the long-needed overhaul of my signature.

Nole Rules
05-24-2011, 05:24 PM
Rafa is doomed.:haha:
Murray or Sod will trash him let alone the great serbian slayer.

Vida
05-24-2011, 05:25 PM
nadal appears fragile. his forehand is nowhere to where it was, even in 09 matches. he wasnt going for lines at all, and thats vs isner.

does it have something to do with 4 straight losses to novak? has he gotten mentally impaled somehow? most likely no, but 'most likely' isnt good enough.

iriraz
05-24-2011, 05:25 PM
In a match with not a lot of rhythm it`s always tough for Nadal.We`ve seen it in a couple of Wimbledon matches,against Isner now,against Karlovic this year.
This match will not make a difference whatsoever for Nadal,except one poor game on serve he pretty much dominated the baseline rallies and only lost sets cause he couldn`t break serve and in tiebreakers anything can happen.
In his next matches he will get himself into a lot more rallies and will have plenty of chances to get some rhythm for the bigger matches.
Probably the only way Nadal would have lost this match would have been in 3 tiebreakers.

l_mac
05-24-2011, 05:26 PM
i have to agree with the nadal tards here. Isner is the type of player that usually kick rafa's butt. and Rafa needed this one badly a touhg win is always rewarding mentally. but we will see, how this will affect the confidence of other players
What rubbish.

Who isn't?
Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I simply have to commemorate this epic encounter by the long-needed overhaul of my signature.

Oh, we will fall out. :(

Start da Game
05-24-2011, 05:27 PM
What a match!

indeed, it was a great fight......more with himself than the opponent.......his backhand showed signs of 2010 in the last two sets.......something tells me that this is the toughest test of his 2011 french open campaign and he passed it.......

rafa hating tools talking trash about nadal have zero understanding about tennis.......the match had little to do with isner(apart from that serving) or the surface.......

it was all about nadal realizing how dreadful his game is the moment, finding a way to win this match and opening the door to take his game towards invincibility again on clay.......

i am happy overall, this was the type of match rafa really needed to overcome to wake up and roar for the rest of the tournament.......

Lana87
05-24-2011, 05:27 PM
what is exactly shitty is your premature thread starting.......
Calm down http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Lanabgd/new/873c4ebb.gif
Why is it so important? Who cares.


On topic, great match for Isner and I wish he won but I knew Rafa will escape somehow even when he was 2 sets down. On the other hand I really want to see the final between Nole and Rafa. Hopefully none of them will mess up in the early rounds.

rocketassist
05-24-2011, 05:28 PM
Oh, we will fall out. :(

That's a good thing actually, too many Noletards love Nadal and vice versa. Your dream tard rivalry might happen now.

evilmindbulgaria
05-24-2011, 05:29 PM
What did he do?

I couldn't believe it when I read at work that Rafa would go into a 5th set against Isner on clay but it was no surprise to find out when I came home that he won the match.

I don't think this match will have any impact on Rafa's chances at RG. Just remember that he needed 5 sets against Haase and Petzschner at Wimbledon last year.

All the predictions that he won't make it to the final in Paris are as exaggerated as the ones that he won't lose any more sets during the tournament.

It's natural that a player struggles during a GS tournament - it would have been unreal to expect Rafa to win RG for the next years without losing any sets... ;)

We will see in the next rounds whether it was good for him to get tested already early in the tournament.

:hatoff: to John for his performance today.

The classiest post I have seen in a while :wavey:

Start da Game
05-24-2011, 05:32 PM
nadal appears fragile. his forehand is nowhere to where it was, even in 09 matches. he wasnt going for lines at all, and thats vs isner.

does it have something to do with 4 straight losses to novak? has he gotten mentally impaled somehow? most likely no, but 'most likely' isnt good enough.

there's no questioning that he was rattled by djokovic.......he needed to be rattled even today because that is the only way he will realize how pathetic his game is at the moment......

he was clearly shaken today for his own good and he responded just in time to get over the hurdle and restore his confidence.......

he badly needed a battle, a battle in which he comes out trumps.......this was it.......

his game at the moment is heavily reliant on his forehand because his backhand is temporarily dead.......it showed signs of 2010 in the last set but we can't be convinced with just that much.......

i am sure he will work his way from here on.......

Poirot123
05-24-2011, 05:34 PM
Look guys, you are going on and on about mental fortitude and confidence and mindgames blah blah blah, and I'm sure Rafa will now be on a high but the reason why he struggled in this match (and this clay season) is because his game has been POOR. Any number of players could potentially challenge him, never mind Djokivic.

This.

People should compare Nadal 2011 with Nadal 2010. Last year Nadal looked unbeatable almost every match, and a guy had to pull out an outstanding performance to stop him. This year Nadal has looked any thing but unbeatable, and any guy who shows a bit of fortitude and fight can push him very close, even on his best surface. I mean there were times during his match with Tomic (yes, Bernard Tomic) at the AO this year when Nadal looked distinctly below par before he pulled it out to win. And he's been like that all year. His standard this year is way below last year's standard.

In many ways this result looks very similar to Federer's 5 set scare against Falla at wimbledon last year in the first round. Federer was actually carrying a back injury at the time, but wasn't telling anyone. Maybe Nadal is also physically below par, for whatever reason, but isn't saying what, to avoid giving opponents a boost to confidence. I say this, because there has to be something up with Nadal for him to be so far off where he was last year. Maybe last year will always be where he peaked, playing such brilliant tennis that to continue doing so just isn't possible?

l_mac
05-24-2011, 05:36 PM
That's a good thing actually, too many Noletards love Nadal and vice versa. Your dream tard rivalry might happen now.

It's less than you think.

Lot of Fedtard converts to the Djokovic cause - they're a natural fit.

muchu
05-24-2011, 05:37 PM
rafa, im curious how he will handle everything IF he lost the order in RG. I have the sense that he doesn't have any self confidence atm

DrJules
05-24-2011, 05:38 PM
Isner is a better clay court player than many here imply and did extend Djokovic to 5 sets on clay in the Davis Cup last year when Djokovic was playing less well than now. However, he should not be taking Nadal to 5 sets.

Only Federer and Soderling have won more sets against Nadal at RG in the last 7 years; Federer a set on 3 different occasions and Soderling in 1 match.

Without a significant improvement in form he is unlikely to beat the Serb and potentially Soderling or Murray could be sizeable obstacles.

peribsen
05-24-2011, 05:38 PM
:zzz:

(hehe, some people here thinking Rafa still has something to prove on clay...)

l_mac
05-24-2011, 05:40 PM
From Twitter:

Steve Tignor

Isner says Rafa's level in last two sets was the best he's ever seen

Says Rafa made a good effort of making a lot of first serves and just didn't make mistakes. "game he broke me on was just too good"

Rafa: "I didn't play free during all the match" felt he had to play safe against Inser

Rafa: "the turning point was the break in the 4th set. After that I started to feel more confident"

"I know in the fifth there is no tiebreak." felt less pressure in the fifth

What was the most difficult thing in the match? "The most difficult thing was . . . everything"


tweet from rolandgarros


"Lot of pressure on me in this tournament because it means a lot to me."

Eden
05-24-2011, 05:41 PM
Maybe Nadal is also physically below par, for whatever reason, but isn't saying what, to avoid giving opponents a boost to confidence. I say this, because there has to be something up with Nadal for him to be so far off where he was last year.

I'm sure we would have heard something already when something would be wrong with Rafa ;)

It's a natural development for any player to lose a step at some point in his career. Don't forget how long Rafa is around and how much tennis he has already played.

It doesn't always have to do with injuries when a player struggles.


Maybe last year will always be where he peaked, playing such brilliant tennis that to continue doing so just isn't possible?

Rafa had one of the best years in tennishistory last year and it was quite impossible for him to repeat it.

Let's not forget though that he still has the chance to win the same GS tournaments as last year even though it doesn't seem likely at this point.

Farenhajt
05-24-2011, 05:41 PM
It's less than you think.

Lot of Fedtard converts to the Djokovic cause - they're a natural fit.

Right. Nole-Rafa bitardism usually comes from anti-Fed motivation rather than pro-Nadal one. And anti-Fed motivation has more to do with non-tennis reasons.

Though I still think THIS variety of double tardism is still more frequent than say Djorray or Djoderer (the latter might be natural game-wise, but unnatural for so many other reasons).

Eden
05-24-2011, 05:43 PM
Interview with Isner is on

http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/multimedia/2011-05-24/013023004fe8000000d9.html

Start da Game
05-24-2011, 05:46 PM
From Twitter:

Steve Tignor




Tignor






tweetrs from rolandgarros

what else did these rafa hating clown experts expect? look what isner himself said, he is just echoing what i said an hour ago after the match.......

Start da Game the great knew it beforehand......nadal had fought remarkably well in the last two sets and this is the type of battle he needed to overcome to get his confidence back.......

whoever ridiculed my opinion, eat it now you fools.......

abraxas21
05-24-2011, 05:48 PM
:zzz:

(hehe, some people here thinking Rafa still has something to prove on clay...)

he's still below borg in the clay GOATs list, you know

Orka_n
05-24-2011, 05:49 PM
"Start da Game the great" :rolls: Come back with the bullshit about restored confidence when Nadal has won this tournament. Until then, shut up a bit will ya.

abraxas21
05-24-2011, 05:49 PM
what else did these rafa hating clown experts expect? look what isner himself said, he is just echoing what i said an hour ago after the match.......

Start da Game the great knew it beforehand......nadal had fought remarkably well in the last two sets and this is the type of battle he needed to overcome to get his confidence back.......

whoever ridiculed my opinion, eat it now you fools.......

:rolleyes:

AlteredEgo
05-24-2011, 05:54 PM
From a pure tennis fan point of view, there is definitely something going on with Nadal's game. How much of a confident boost can a 5 set, 4 hour match against an American player in the first round be? I think Nadal is very vulnerable and I would not be at all suprised to see him lose in the quarters, and that's if he gets past Davydenko. It would have been one thing if Nadal had been extended to 5 sets by a true clay court player, but Isner is not a real notable player much less a notable clay courter. I think Nadal has been rattled since the Australian Open personally. I think that injury loss and the rising dominance of Djokovic has really rattled his tennis cage. He's not playing with the same aura of invincibility that he has played with in years past. After his next match, I don't see things getting any easier for him and what defending champ wants to expend 4 hours worth of energy in the first round to take down the likes of John Isner? I mean what's Isner best result on clay so far in his career? And that's my point. I thought that Nadal looked a little lackluster in the finals of Madrid and Rome and this match won't help his campaign for the title. I'm sure he walked out on court today expecting a straight set win and got extended to 5. While, yes, this is a win. I can't imagine that this does much for his confidence, but I suspect that it does give other guys in his path confidence in knowing that Nadal's game isn't as solid as it has been in years past. I think this match gives many players that extra boost in believing that they can take down Nadal. I just don't see Nadal winning RG this year.

rocketassist
05-24-2011, 05:56 PM
Right. Nole-Rafa bitardism usually comes from anti-Fed motivation rather than pro-Nadal one. And anti-Fed motivation has more to do with non-tennis reasons.

Though I still think THIS variety of double tardism is still more frequent than say Djorray or Djoderer (the latter might be natural game-wise, but unnatural for so many other reasons).

Why? Djoker's game has absolutely nothing that coincides with Fed's save for great forehand dropshot. Then again, none of the other top 4 plus RoBotro have anything in common with him either. He's the odd one of the 5.

rocketassist
05-24-2011, 05:59 PM
what else did these rafa hating clown experts expect? look what isner himself said, he is just echoing what i said an hour ago after the match.......

Start da Game the great knew it beforehand......nadal had fought remarkably well in the last two sets and this is the type of battle he needed to overcome to get his confidence back.......

whoever ridiculed my opinion, eat it now you fools.......

Is that all it took to get over as a forum heel? :lol: MTF :lol:

NikolaBGD
05-24-2011, 06:00 PM
nadal had fought remarkably well in the last two sets and this is the type of battle he needed to overcome to get his confidence back.......

.

This is not all true...

Rafa fought, but it was Isner who lose his strength, serve accuracy, DF on break point in 4 set, that was a turning point in the match, and after that Rafa start to return better.

Rafa must lift his game if he wants to win this tournament, I dont understand all this Sparta BS, there was nothing spartan in this match.

barbadosan
05-24-2011, 06:01 PM
"Start da Game the great" :rolls: Come back with the bullshit about restored confidence when Nadal has won this tournament. Until then, shut up a bit will ya.

Oh rofl "Start da Game the great"! Talk about an elevated opinion of oneself... but that prob explains why he feels he has some God-given right to be the thread starter because HE says so. Dear dear... At least the mods had the sense to dump his quite extraordinary carping.

DrJules
05-24-2011, 06:06 PM
what else did these rafa hating clown experts expect? look what isner himself said, he is just echoing what i said an hour ago after the match.......

Start da Game the great knew it beforehand......nadal had fought remarkably well in the last two sets and this is the type of battle he needed to overcome to get his confidence back.......

whoever ridiculed my opinion, eat it now you fools.......

If Nadal fails to win RG this year many on this site may lose faith in your expertise.

Start da Game
05-24-2011, 06:10 PM
it was not about his struggle against the opponent or the struggle on his favourite surface.......his game has declined to an extent that the surface and the opponent din't really matter today.......

he was going to be tested against anyone, not just against isner......it just happened to be isner today.......

it was not a tennis match against an opponent, it was rather a mental battle against himself.......his mind wants to win but his physical dynamics do not cooperate at the moment.......that is where it is all lost for him at present.......

what does he do? he fights himself on and on to carve out a spartan 5 set victory.......these are the types of matches that truly make a difference.......champions thrive on pressure and you just watch him take this shit from here on.......

anticaria
05-24-2011, 06:11 PM
King of Clay :worship:


umm what ever happened to 'rafa must retire' and 'rafa's finished'? :wavey:

barbadosan
05-24-2011, 06:18 PM
The thread starter will accumulate a lot of vcash ;)

Ahhh.. had forgotten that. Maybe not so much a case of "cherchez la femme" as "cherchez la monnaie" ;)

anticaria
05-24-2011, 06:21 PM
it was not about his struggle against the opponent or the struggle on his favourite surface.......his game has declined to an extent that the surface and the opponent din't really matter today.......

he was going to be tested against anyone, not just against isner......it just happened to be isner today.......

it was not a tennis match against an opponent, it was rather a mental battle against himself.......his mind wants to win but his physical dynamics do not cooperate at the moment.......that is where it is all lost for him at present.......

what does he do? he fights himself on and on to carve out a spartan 5 set victory.......these are the types of matches that truly make a difference.......champions thrive on pressure and you just watch him take this shit from here on.......



i believe this is the best way i have seen rafa's current state of flux spelled out.. a mental battle against himself indeed..

all great players go through these 'growing pains' and periods of flux as they continue to grow and mature technically.. for they are in fact the very natural course of progression which ultimately allows a player to reach ever higher milestones.. and, at the moment, rafa's going through just such a transition to take his game to the next level.. nothing whatsoever new or even remotely newsworthy about it quite frankly..

foul_dwimmerlaik
05-24-2011, 06:26 PM
What a terrible, terrible mugs match. Harrison and Soderling were playing at the same time at twice the speed those two were.

tangerine_dream
05-24-2011, 06:29 PM
He passes John Isner? :scratch: Like what? A kidney stone?

Rafa :scared:

Sofonda Cox
05-24-2011, 06:30 PM
Nadal is so over.

Dr.Slice
05-24-2011, 06:33 PM
I see you already upgrated from set to match when it was time to be a man eh?

Soon it will be "Rafa will not lose more than one match in this tournament"

Kidding aside, it would be stupid to count out Rafa. He struggled in early rounds at Wimbledon last year, but then picked it up. But he needs to improve his level quickly, because if he has to take down Davydenko, Verdasco, Söderling, Murray and Djokovic/Federer in row, well, with this game he wont be able to overcome all of those.

MayerFan
05-24-2011, 06:33 PM
How representative of today's tennis that the umpire gave a time violation warning to Nadal at the beginning of the match but never even dared to give him a point penalty afterwards?

Eden
05-24-2011, 06:38 PM
Interview with Rafa

http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/multimedia/2011-05-24/0130232b28a8000000dc.html

Matt01
05-24-2011, 06:39 PM
A win is a win is a win :yeah:

Dream Rafole final still possible :D

anticaria
05-24-2011, 06:40 PM
In reality Isner needed either the first or the fourth set. Once it went to five it was pretty much over because of no TB and long set. Heroic performance anyway. Nadals performance? not going to scare his next round opponent

pssst.. up next, rafa plays a fellow spaniard by the name of pablo andujar.. operative word being 'fellow spaniard'.. as i'm sure you're well aware of rafa's r garros record against his fellow countrymen, no?

here, i'll tell ya: rafa's 6:0 and 18 sets to 0 against his fellow countrymen at r garros.. so i'm guessing whether andujar's technically 'scared' or not will not amount to a hill of beans anyway for, in the end, he'll still lose..

Dini
05-24-2011, 06:40 PM
How representative of today's tennis that the umpire gave a time violation warning to Nadal at the beginning of the match but never even dared to give him a point penalty afterwards?

I don't think it has anything to do with umpires today particularly. McEnroe got off very lightly (for different different, more serious things mind you) a lot of times as he admitted himself, surprised that in his entire career he only got defaulted once.

abraxas21
05-24-2011, 06:43 PM
How representative of today's tennis that the umpire gave a time violation warning to Nadal at the beginning of the match but never even dared to give him a point penalty afterwards?

it's happened before... nadal wins most of his tight matches with gamemanship, outright cheating and umpire intimidation.

MayerFan
05-24-2011, 06:46 PM
I don't think it has anything to do with umpires today particularly. McEnroe got off very lightly (for different different, more serious things mind you) a lot of times as he admitted himself, surprised that in his entire career he only got defaulted once.

McEnroe at least used to get a lot of point penalties.

Nadal (or any other top player nowadays) is never punished.

it's happened before... nadal wins most of his tight matches with gamemanship, outright cheating and umpire intimidation.

I can't help but say you exaggerate, but not as much as one would think.

TMJordan
05-24-2011, 06:48 PM
LOL

5 sets against Isner on clay

That is all.

abraxas21
05-24-2011, 06:48 PM
it's a slight exaggeration but it's basically that :)

Matt01
05-24-2011, 06:50 PM
it's happened before... nadal wins most of his tight matches with gamemanship, outright cheating and umpire intimidation.


:baby:

Start da Game
05-24-2011, 06:51 PM
i believe this is the best way i have seen rafa's current state of flux spelled out.. a mental battle against himself indeed..

all great players go through these 'growing pains' and periods of flux as they continue to grow and mature technically.. for they are in fact the very natural course of progression which ultimately allows a player to reach ever higher milestones.. and, at the moment, rafa's going through just such a transition to take his game to the next level.. nothing whatsoever new or even remotely newsworthy about it quite frankly..

excellent observation.......he's in the midst of a tough transition from being woefully out of form slugger to the invincible clay god that he originally is, and the curve is only upwards from here on on the graph of time as X-axis and his form as Y-axis.......

the bumps on the curve like the djokovic matches of last month and the isner match today shall be present until he steadies the motion and starts playing at his near best come quarterfinals......the direction of the curve remains only upwards......

so that's right, this is hardly any news......

peribsen
05-24-2011, 06:57 PM
it's happened before... nadal wins most of his tight matches with gamemanship, outright cheating and umpire intimidation.

:zzz:

(stop whining)

shiaben
05-24-2011, 06:59 PM
Can anyone find a link or upload the statistics?? I'm not taking the word of these "anti-Rafa" tards that just want to bitch and complain about Rafa going to 5 sets. As Rafa said, he was a bit "too tight" so these things to happen. He's a human being, and as far as I know, he's got more slams than a lot of the mugs like Soderling, Berdych, and many others who still haven't found one. Haters will hate. John has a big serve, and for a 6'9 can play exceptionally well baseline. It was well known that matches with him are unpredictable, they depend on how well he's serving. When he's off, it's a 3-4 set win for the victor, if he's really on and the opponent can't get anything from the serve, he can take it to 5. I guess people here already forgot that he KO Roddick (then again he's a terrible return server)and that he took a set off Federer.

anticaria
05-24-2011, 07:08 PM
LOL

5 sets against Isner on clay

That is all.


LOL

3 sets against bellucci in the madrid open semis

that is all

iriraz
05-24-2011, 07:10 PM
Nadal played a solid match overall under the circumstances as he had not a lot of rhythm on the return games.The only poor game he had was when he lost serve in the second set and when it got to the tiebreaks he didn`t feel comfortable at all.
Surely the break at the start of the 4th was huge and that made him the clear favourite,cause if he had gotten himself into another breaker i don`t think he would have won the match

Super Djoker
05-24-2011, 07:20 PM
Funny that this is the second time that after losing to Djokovic on Clay he has a hangover in his next match, Nadal is only human, even he has got to start getting tired at some point, Soderling in waiting ! Watch this space!

BULLZ1LLA
05-24-2011, 07:22 PM
Um... guess who's not gonna win Roland Garros?

(Noval Djokovic, Isner and yourself :-----)

GameSetMatch!
05-24-2011, 07:26 PM
Amazing fight John!
Nadal :tape:

Sapeod
05-24-2011, 07:28 PM
LOL @ Start da Game and other Nadaltards shouting "SPARTA". Losing 2 sets to Isner on clay is simply embarrassing. Isner played great, but Nadal should never have been taken to 5 sets by him. Davydenko will beat this Nadal and if he doesn't, then Soderling will, again. If he doesn't, and he meets Murray, Andy is going to slaughter him. If he doesn't, and he meets Djokovic in the final, then it's a 5th humiliation in a row.

Nadal is not going to defend any of his slams this year if he plays like this, he's simply terrible. I'm almost hoping Djokovic takes the no.1 away from him after this display :tape:

Sapeod
05-24-2011, 07:31 PM
LOL

3 sets against bellucci in the madrid open semis

that is all
It's funny because Nadal didn't even manage to win one set :lol:

feuselino
05-24-2011, 07:35 PM
Man, watching Isner moving his long legs around during long baseline rallyes against Nadal on clay is like watching a baby seal trying to escape from a killer whale at the end of a steep ice floe. You just know it is going to end ugly eventually but you just can't look away...

but well done to Isner, and also to Nadal!

BULLZ1LLA
05-24-2011, 07:41 PM
(Thank you Isner for just winning Roland Garros for Rafa :-----)

rabarbar
05-24-2011, 07:42 PM
Some Rafa's photos from match with John: JUST CLICK HERE :-) (http://s24.pl/tenis-ziemny/galerie/niespodziewane-problemy-nadala,g1304)

http://b48.pl/img/gal/1304/niespodziewane_problemy_nadala__004.jpg

MIMIC
05-24-2011, 07:44 PM
5 sets against Isner on CLAY :haha:

Isner can almost do it but I guess the task is too big for Djokovic (according for the tards still in denial over the last 2 victories)

JayR
05-24-2011, 07:46 PM
He passes John Isner? :scratch: Like what? A kidney stone?



:haha:

BULLZ1LLA
05-24-2011, 07:47 PM
(The 4th set is the best Rafa has ever hit his backhand on clay. This match has won Roland Garros for Rafa, as Rafa's backhand has arrived for title number 6. Sorry Toolovic, now you have to play the entire Rafa :-----)

DrJules
05-24-2011, 07:47 PM
Can anyone find a link or upload the statistics?? I'm not taking the word of these "anti-Rafa" tards that just want to bitch and complain about Rafa going to 5 sets. As Rafa said, he was a bit "too tight" so these things to happen. He's a human being, and as far as I know, he's got more slams than a lot of the mugs like Soderling, Berdych, and many others who still haven't found one. Haters will hate. John has a big serve, and for a 6'9 can play exceptionally well baseline. It was well known that matches with him are unpredictable, they depend on how well he's serving. When he's off, it's a 3-4 set win for the victor, if he's really on and the opponent can't get anything from the serve, he can take it to 5. I guess people here already forgot that he KO Roddick (then again he's a terrible return server)and that he took a set off Federer.

Nadal 50 winners to 27 unforced errors.

http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/scores/stats/day8/1101ms.html

asmaridis
05-24-2011, 07:48 PM
you and those pissed off clowns have zero understanding about nadal and his game.......

it was not about the opponent, neither about the surface......nadal was battling himself out there.......

he needed to be shaken, he needed to be shaken and reminded about his dreadful game at the moment for it to get better from here on.......

he was rattled just in time at the beginning of the tournament.......it had to happen for him to take this title.......watch him claw back to his sheer best from here on.......

This is hilarious. Nadal fans getting delusional. It was never about him being shaken, it's not like he's lacking concentration and needed a blow to get it back. He's playing sh*t out there on his favorite surface. Djokovic will batter him time and time again. He'll be hoping he never gets there in the first place, and I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't. Davydenko, Soderling, Murray. He'll definitely fall there. He's a wounded animal, but with wounds too deep to overcome. My advice: change your coach and bring in someone who can change your game.

Dr.Slice
05-24-2011, 07:52 PM
LOL @ Start da Game and other Nadaltards shouting "SPARTA". Losing 2 sets to Isner on clay is simply embarrassing. Isner played great, but Nadal should never have been taken to 5 sets by him. Davydenko will beat this Nadal and if he doesn't, then Soderling will, again. If he doesn't, and he meets Murray, Andy is going to slaughter him. If he doesn't, and he meets Djokovic in the final, then it's a 5th humiliation in a row.


You are underrating Nadal. People were writing him off after his 5 setters last year at Wimbledon, people were writing him off after Australia last year, but he always comes back. It would be stupid to count him out, especially on clay and at a tournament where he has won 5 times out of 6 tries. Davydenko, Söderling and Murray better be ready to fight for 5 sets against Rafa when they meet him and if they want to beat him and I am not sure any of them has the fight needed. Of course, Söderling and Murray will be very dangerous to Rafa, probably Söderling more so.

I would love for Novak to take nr.1 rank away from Rafa though.

BULLZ1LLA
05-24-2011, 07:57 PM
(If Rafa keeps hitting his backhand like he did in the final 2 sets, nobody will beat him :-----)

JediFed
05-24-2011, 08:03 PM
Man what would have happened to MTF if Rafa got bounced in the first round?

Nice try for a piggy roasting Isner.

Elaka Farmor
05-24-2011, 08:06 PM
Good that Nadde won, I´m sick of seeing Murrrrays lucky draw..... :mad:

Start da Game
05-24-2011, 08:11 PM
(The 4th set is the best Rafa has ever hit his backhand on clay. This match has won Roland Garros for Rafa, as Rafa's backhand has arrived for title number 6. Sorry Toolovic, now you have to play the entire Rafa :-----)

this......that backhand really showed signs of 2010 in the 4th and 5th sets.......when was the last time that he stringed together some seriously good backhand passes?

this is the kind of match that he needed to fight through.......come quarterfinals, he will almost be unbeatable.......

Snowwy
05-24-2011, 08:11 PM
LOL @ Start da Game and other Nadaltards shouting "SPARTA". Losing 2 sets to Isner on clay is simply embarrassing. Isner played great, but Nadal should never have been taken to 5 sets by him. Davydenko will beat this Nadal and if he doesn't, then Soderling will, again. If he doesn't, and he meets Murray, Andy is going to slaughter him. If he doesn't, and he meets Djokovic in the final, then it's a 5th humiliation in a row.

Nadal is not going to defend any of his slams this year if he plays like this, he's simply terrible. I'm almost hoping Djokovic takes the no.1 away from him after this display :tape:

:lol:

You sound real confident..

Sapeod
05-24-2011, 08:15 PM
Good that Nadde won, I´m sick of seeing Murrrrays lucky draw..... :mad:
I bet Murray was laughing his arse off at Nadal here :haha: Andy would've beaten Isner in 3 :haha:

Sapeod
05-24-2011, 08:16 PM
:lol:

You sound real confident..
Isner just took Nadal to 5 sets on clay. What are Davydenko/Soderling/Murray/Djokovic/Federer going to do to him? :tape:

CCBH
05-24-2011, 08:17 PM
Nadal played a solid match overall under the circumstances as he had not a lot of rhythm on the return games.The only poor game he had was when he lost serve in the second set and when it got to the tiebreaks he didn`t feel comfortable at all.
Surely the break at the start of the 4th was huge and that made him the clear favourite,cause if he had gotten himself into another breaker i don`t think he would have won the match

Very true. But that game in the 2nd set was quite appalling, to be honest :tape:. The tiebreaks were probably the worst he's ever played, tame errors throughout, very very uncharacteristic. Otherwise, he was in command of all his service games. He did look nervous in the last game, but did well to close it out.

People are probably reading much more into his slip-ups given the losses to Djokovic, but Isner is always a tough out when serving well. He even took Djokovic to 5 on clay in Davis Cup, so he's no mug, and was boosted by the 2nd set win.

your_valentine
05-24-2011, 08:18 PM
A couple of hours after the match and I still can't stop laughing :haha::haha::haha:
Sparta my ass.

Alex999
05-24-2011, 08:19 PM
(If Rafa keeps hitting his backhand like he did in the final 2 sets, nobody will beat him :-----)
Some people never learn and you are one of them. If I was a Rafatard like you I'd keep quiet for now... it's embarrassing that some Rafatards are so blind. This has nothing to do with true Rafa fans. Thank God, there are still plenty of them (Nadal fans) on this board.

I watched the match and was not impressed with Nadal. His BH is still shaky. Kudos to Isner. Rafa will need to improve his game. I believe that he will be really tested against players like Kolya, Soderling and Murray. Peace.

Time Violation
05-24-2011, 08:22 PM
If Murray repeats his game from Rome, Nadal will be lucky to take a set :p

DrJules
05-24-2011, 08:26 PM
This is hilarious. Nadal fans getting delusional. It was never about him being shaken, it's not like he's lacking concentration and needed a blow to get it back. He's playing sh*t out there on his favorite surface. Djokovic will batter him time and time again. He'll be hoping he never gets there in the first place, and I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't. Davydenko, Soderling, Murray. He'll definitely fall there. He's a wounded animal, but with wounds too deep to overcome. My advice: change your coach and bring in someone who can change your game.

Nadal is currently holder of 3 GS titles so rightly is reluctant to change what has worked up to now and maybe is correct not to change. It was the same for Federer a year ago.

Fujee
05-24-2011, 08:26 PM
Big John has done enough to plant the seeds of doubt. Well played big guy..

GSMnadal
05-24-2011, 08:29 PM
Isner just took Nadal to 5 sets on clay. What are Davydenko/Soderling/Murray/Djokovic/Federer going to do to him? :tape:

As long as those guys don't learn to serve 140 mph rockets, that end up over Rafa's head, then he'll do just fine. Seriously, his rallying was more than good enough, just had trouble with the serve. Davydenko, Murray and Federer will be a walk in the park. Soderling could challenge him and Djokovic will be an epic.

DrJules
05-24-2011, 08:30 PM
Isner just took Nadal to 5 sets on clay. What are Davydenko/Soderling/Murray/Djokovic/Federer going to do to him? :tape:

You are ignoring match up issues.

The height of Isner means that high bouncing top spin balls go into his hitting zone rather than being annoying high bounces to his backhand. Soderling also has the height advantage and enjoys high bouncing balls. A very good clay court player may of caused Nadal fewer problems today. He will be delighted Del Potro is in the other half as he also has the height advantage.

Soderling can do what Isner does but better.

Super Djoker
05-24-2011, 08:33 PM
100% sure Nadal will win RG now...

He gets taken to 5 in round one and your 100% sure? I am not! Soderling is waiting!

finishingmove
05-24-2011, 08:40 PM
phew...

isner almost kicked murray to the final

Sapeod
05-24-2011, 08:40 PM
As long as those guys don't learn to serve 140 mph rockets, that end up over Rafa's head, then he'll do just fine. Seriously, his rallying was more than good enough, just had trouble with the serve. Davydenko, Murray and Federer will be a walk in the park. Soderling could challenge him and Djokovic will be an epic.
Really? A walk in the park?

Davydenko...maybe he will be easy. He's not exactly the best on clay and his form is suspect.
Federer...is never a walk in the park :stupid: It will a 4 setter at the very least if they meet.
Murray....I'm sure Nadal will agree that he was a walk in the park in Monte Carlo where Andy outclassed him in the second set. And that was on a much much slower surface. This surface in RG is quite fast, not to mention the balls....that will help Andy. Faster court and faster balls = easier for Murray. If Andy doesn't beat him, it will be a 5 set match.

Soderling...serve is just as big as Isner's and his grounstrokes are even bigger and more penetrating. If Nadal doesn't lose to him, I will surprised.
Djokovic...look at the last 4 matches.

Nadal playing at this level will be easy for Murray, Soderling, Federer and Djokovic. Maybe not Davydenko, however Davydenko knows how to play him, be it on hardcourt though.

iriraz
05-24-2011, 08:41 PM
Just because it`s Nadal,people are overreacting because he played a 5 setter.When u look into the past pretty much every French Open champion had 5 setters along the way.Sure this is new for Nadal but for example a 3 time champ like Kuerten had a couple of 5 setters at every French Open he won.
As long as he is still in it,he has a shot.

Voo de Mar
05-24-2011, 08:44 PM
I don't think Nadal is out of form. He just had a tricky opponent today and struggles with big servers (barely beat Dr. Ivo earlier this year). I expect straight set wins by Nadal until the final (perhaps one 4-setter - though draw).

Fujee
05-24-2011, 08:49 PM
Really? A walk in the park?


Murray....I'm sure Nadal will agree that he was a walk in the park in Monte Carlo where Andy outclassed him in the second set. And that was on a much much slower surface. This surface in RG is quite fast, not to mention the balls....that will help Andy. Faster court and faster balls = easier for Murray. If Andy doesn't beat him, it will be a 5 set match.

Nadal playing at this level will be easy for Murray, Soderling, Federer and Djokovic. Maybe not Davydenko, however Davydenko knows how to play him, be it on hardcourt though.

Your adoration of Murray has gone from admirable to simply morose. Andy could go to 5, but he could also quite easily be sent packing in 1's and 2's - his consistency is more suspect than Davy's for christ sake.

Pirata.
05-24-2011, 08:49 PM
LOL

3 sets against bellucci in the madrid open semis

that is all

You are comparing an American clay mug "all-serve bot" on his absolute worst surface with a Brazilian who probably grew up on the surface and had just come off of a win against a top player. What an idiotic comparison.

FerrerAndNadal
05-24-2011, 08:52 PM
Nadal didn't play a bad match. It is almost impossible to break these guys. Especially when his return of serve is as bad as it is currently. Nadal went 57/28 W to UE I believe and 8 aces which is great for him. Isner only won sets because of breakers. If not breakers Nadal in straights. It reminds me of the Karlovic Indian Wells match. Not playing badly just hard against these guys. They don't usually beat you, but they take you close.

peribsen
05-24-2011, 08:53 PM
Isner just took Nadal to 5 sets on clay. What are Davydenko/Soderling/Murray/Djokovic/Federer going to do to him? :tape:

Haase took Rafa to 5 sets in Wimby 2010 rd2, and Petzschner did it again 2 days later. Didn't see that increase Soderling's nor Murray's chances a few days later, not one bit. Talk of hyping isolated set wins...

Leaving that aside, Rafa by now has nothing new to prove on clay, so he may take his 6th RG this year, or he may do it on a later date, or he may even never get it... and he'd still be at the top of clay history, 2nd only to Borg himself, while the rest of the field howl and bang their chests because they may get their first and maybe only win in Paris.

Making fun of Rafa on clay is like laughing at Federer on grass because he may be too old to win yet again.

Sapeod
05-24-2011, 08:57 PM
his consistency is more suspect than Davy's for christ sake.
You have to be kidding? Have you seen his form recently? Almost beating both Nadal and Djokovic on his worst surface, while Davydenko hasn't really done anything apart from win an MM title. Yeah, his form is more suspect than Davydenko's :rolleyes:
Haase took Rafa to 5 sets in Wimby 2010 rd2, and Petzschner did it again 2 days later. Didn't see that increase Soderling's nor Murray's chances a few days later, not one bit. Talk of hyping isolated set wins...
I thought it was obvious by now that the further into the tournament it gets, Wimbledon becomes more like clay every day? The grass is worn away and the court becomes slow and almost like clay, that's why Nadal won easier in the last rounds.

Mountaindewslave
05-24-2011, 08:57 PM
i don't know why so many people are acting like Isner is so bad on clay court and that Nadal played so badly.... the match was pretty good quality, Isner, as usual, was serving up a storm and was taking a lot of risks. Rafael certainly wasn't at his best for the first half of the match but really picked it up. It is a false rumor that Isner is really bad on clay..... his movement is definitely an issue but he makes up for that with his wingspan and his insanely fast and powerful serve. this was a good match and hopefully just what Nadal needed to electrify him into form (i.e. Wimbledon 2010 first-second week)

peribsen
05-24-2011, 09:04 PM
I thought it was obvious by now that the further into the tournament it gets, Wimbledon becomes more like clay every day? The grass is worn away and the court becomes slow and almost like clay, that's why Nadal won easier in the last rounds.

Yes, that must be why claycourters have always performed so well during the 2nd week at SW19...:rolleyes: maybe that's your off-the-shelf explanation for Borg's genius?

Go get some sleep.

Arkulari
05-24-2011, 09:05 PM
I didn't watch the match because I thought that Rafa would straight set Isner, I was really surprised at the score, a TB against Isner is always dangerous but Rafa has a much better ground game than him in general (and better ROS) so it was strange to see.

Rafa's BH is now a pure garbage shot, it was clearly shown against Nole in Rome, all he does with that is moonball (yes, he does moonball with his Backhand as much as it pains me to admit it) and leave short balls waiting to be spanked, no CC BH with great angles, no breathtaking BH passing shots, not to mention the fact that he seems to be using defensive slices more now than ever (and that's probably the only shot he's simply terrible at).

I hope Rafa gets his act together and win the tournament, everyone is entitled to a couple of bad rounds, no one is perfect.

I'm starting to think Start da Game may be senile. Not even other Nadaltards believe his garbage.

Prime candidate for the top seed in ACC if he keeps this up.

Bandwagoners_Mate won't make it easy for him, those two are like the Fedal of 2006/Rafole of 2011, not allowing anyone close to their level :spit:


Probably the last 2 sets he loses this RG. Bamos, Rafa! Go, Rog!

You're rooting for Roger? :eek: :unsure: I'm starting to believe in the End of the World Prophecies :unsure:

it was not about his struggle against the opponent or the struggle on his favourite surface.......his game has declined to an extent that the surface and the opponent din't really matter today.......

he was going to be tested against anyone, not just against isner......it just happened to be isner today.......

it was not a tennis match against an opponent, it was rather a mental battle against himself.......his mind wants to win but his physical dynamics do not cooperate at the moment.......that is where it is all lost for him at present.......

what does he do? he fights himself on and on to carve out a spartan 5 set victory.......these are the types of matches that truly make a difference.......champions thrive on pressure and you just watch him take this shit from here on.......

I hope you think the same about Roger, Nole or any other player that struggles in a first round.